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  Are Debian online manpages down? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-11 21:30 +0200
    Re: Are Debian online manpages down? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-08-11 22:20 +0200
      Re: Are Debian online manpages down? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-12 09:50 +0200
        Re: Are Debian online manpages down? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-08-12 10:30 +0200
          Re: Are Debian online manpages down? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-12 10:40 +0200
            Re: Are Debian online manpages down? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 18:50 +0200
              Re: Are Debian online manpages down? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-08-12 19:40 +0200
      Are Debian online manpages down? Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.com> - 2016-08-12 10:40 +0200

#170987 — Are Debian online manpages down?

http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi gives 404 error
Both "Google" and "DuckDuckGo" lead to pages headed "Welcome to 
glinka!"

Any one else having problems?

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#170991

Richard Owlett composed on 2016-08-11 14:28 (UTC-0500):

> http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi gives 404 error
> Both "Google" and "DuckDuckGo" lead to pages headed "Welcome to
> glinka!"

> Any one else having problems?

Only with that one particular URL. Glinka is simply one of the hosts in the 
Debian server fleet. You should be able to find what you want that's specific 
to Debian starting out at one or more of:

http://www.debian.org/doc/
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/
http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals
http://www.debian.org/support
http://www.debian.org/

Simply googling any specific man page WFM for components and utilities that 
aren't specific to Debian.
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

  Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

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#171014

On 8/11/2016 3:18 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
> Richard Owlett composed on 2016-08-11 14:28 (UTC-0500):
>
>> http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi gives 404 error
>> Both "Google" and "DuckDuckGo" lead to pages headed "Welcome to
>> glinka!"
>
>> Any one else having problems?
>
> Only with that one particular URL. Glinka is simply one of the
> hosts in the Debian server fleet. You should be able to find what
> you want that's specific to Debian starting out at one or more of:
>
> http://www.debian.org/doc/
> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/

That page says
/begin quote
manual pages
     Traditionally, all Unix programs are documented with manual 
pages, reference manuals made available through the man command. 
They usually aren't meant for beginners. You can search for and 
read the manual pages available in Debian in 
http://manpages.debian.org/.
/end quote

"http://manpages.debian.org/" is a link to 
http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi

http://manpages.debian.org/ gives the "Welcome to glinka!" 
message.> http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals
>[snip]
>
> Simply googling any specific man page WFM for components and
> utilities that aren't specific to Debian.

I explicitly wanted the Debian version.

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#171015

Richard Owlett composed on 2016-08-12 02:49 (UTC-0500):

>> Simply googling any specific man page WFM for components and
>> utilities that aren't specific to Debian.

> I explicitly wanted the Debian version.

What doesn't exist can't be gotten. IOW, if any given man page is not 
specific to Debian, which is the case more often than not, as long as the 
package versions match, the man page provided by any specific Debian release 
is the same man page provided by any other distro. Most of what any distro is 
doing packaging, taking the source, building, and putting it into the 
distro's package management system. For man pages, Debian packaging means 
copying word for word from the source package into a .deb package. What 
differentiates among distros is primarily their package management systems, 
release scheduling and naming, and policies about choosing which programs and 
versions are to be provided. See e.g.
http://linux.die.net/man/1/ddrescue
http://linux.die.net/man/1/diff
http://linux.die.net/man/1/mc
http://linux.die.net/man/1/rsync
http://linux.die.net/man/8/traceroute
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

  Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

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#171017

On 8/12/2016 3:25 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
> Richard Owlett composed on 2016-08-12 02:49 (UTC-0500):
>
>>> Simply googling any specific man page WFM for components and
>>> utilities that aren't specific to Debian.
>
>> I explicitly wanted the Debian version.
>
> What doesn't exist can't be gotten. [SNIP}

What I want has been in existence for years and the link to it 
exists in
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ !

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#171045

On Friday 12 August 2016 09:33:02 Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 8/12/2016 3:25 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
> > Richard Owlett composed on 2016-08-12 02:49 (UTC-0500):
> >>> Simply googling any specific man page WFM for components and
> >>> utilities that aren't specific to Debian.
> >>
> >> I explicitly wanted the Debian version.
> >
> > What doesn't exist can't be gotten. [SNIP}
>
> What I want has been in existence for years and the link to it
> exists in
> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ !

Where?  Curiosity, not contradiction.  Perhaps it never actually happened, 
just got planned.

Lisi

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#171046

On 8/12/2016 11:49 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Friday 12 August 2016 09:33:02 Richard Owlett wrote:
>> On 8/12/2016 3:25 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
>>> Richard Owlett composed on 2016-08-12 02:49 (UTC-0500):
>>>>> Simply googling any specific man page WFM for components and
>>>>> utilities that aren't specific to Debian.
>>>>
>>>> I explicitly wanted the Debian version.
>>>
>>> What doesn't exist can't be gotten. [SNIP}
>>
>> What I want has been in existence for years and the link to it
>> exists in
>> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ !
>
> Where?  Curiosity, not contradiction.  Perhaps it never actually happened,
> just got planned.
>

Sorry. Careless copy-n-paste ;<
https://www.debian.org/doc/  says


manual pages [1]
     Traditionally, all Unix programs are documented with manual 
pages, reference manuals made available through the man command. 
They usually aren't meant for beginners. You can search for and 
read the manual pages available in Debian in 
http://manpages.debian.org/.[2]

[1] a link to http://www.tldp.org/docs.html#man
[2] a link to http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi

I reported the problem over on debian-www list and was told that 
the problem exists and is being investigated.

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#171016

Felix Miata:
> Only with that one particular URL.

... which is officially recognized.

* https://debian.org/News/weekly/2013/19/index.en.html#manpages

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