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  Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Charlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au> - 2016-08-03 03:20 +0200
    Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 11:00 +0200
      Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Charlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au> - 2016-08-03 15:20 +0200
        Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 17:50 +0200
          Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Charlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au> - 2016-08-04 01:00 +0200
        Re: Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Rodary Jacques <rodaryj@free.fr> - 2016-08-12 00:20 +0200
          Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Charlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au> - 2016-08-12 01:30 +0200
            Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-08-12 16:50 +0200
            Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 17:40 +0200
              Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Charlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au> - 2016-08-13 01:30 +0200
      Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Glenn English <ghe@slsware.net> - 2016-08-03 22:10 +0200
        Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 23:20 +0200
        Re: Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Rodary Jacques <rodaryj@free.fr> - 2016-08-12 01:40 +0200
          Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 17:40 +0200
    Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-03 16:00 +0200
      Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 16:40 +0200
        Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-03 22:00 +0200
          Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 23:10 +0200
            Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-04 04:30 +0200
              Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 10:00 +0200
                Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Charlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au> - 2016-08-04 15:00 +0200
                  Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-08-04 17:50 +0200
                Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-08-04 17:10 +0200
          Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-08-04 14:40 +0200
            Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Charlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au> - 2016-08-04 15:10 +0200
              Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 15:50 +0200
                Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-08-04 16:50 +0200
                Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-08-04 17:30 +0200
                  Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 17:50 +0200
                    Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-08-04 18:20 +0200
                      Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 18:40 +0200
                        Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-04 20:10 +0200
                          Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 20:40 +0200
                            Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-08-04 22:10 +0200
                              Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 23:30 +0200
                            Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-05 22:30 +0200
                        Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-08-04 22:00 +0200
                          Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 23:30 +0200
                  Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2016-08-04 18:20 +0200
                    Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 18:40 +0200
            Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Charlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au> - 2016-08-04 15:20 +0200
              Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-08-04 17:40 +0200
              Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-04 20:00 +0200
                Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Charlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au> - 2016-08-06 01:40 +0200
                  Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-14 04:20 +0200
                    Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Charlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au> - 2016-08-14 04:50 +0200

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#170682

On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 08:54:58 +0100 Lisi Reisz sent:

> On Thursday 04 August 2016 03:21:20 David Wright wrote:
> > The OP said they use fvwm which exhibits the behaviour I described.
> > If you can drag the window from where it popped up to where you want
> > it, then it was on the correct *desktop*.  
> 
> No, it wasn't.   I said and meant "desktop", otherwise known as
> workspace.  If you say that the OP, who uses FVWM, said workspace and
> meant viewport, I cannot argue, since you obviously know FVWM, and I
> don't.


	After contemplation, my reply is:

I have always known them as desktops, workspaces also feels right.

There are 16 of these, divided into 4 X 4. The first 4 are headed
FVWM, the second four Development, the third four Internet and the
last are labelled Misc. You can mouse drag open packages within the four
desktops of each section, but not into the next four or any other of the
12 desktops.

I'm unsure when this was so programmed. In the old times one could
mouse drag open packages into any desktop. There were no hard no go
fences between them.

Through my .xsession I have 3 xterms open on my first, one of four
desktops in that first group. Three of the desktops in that group of
four remain empty, till I open something in them

All the other sections with four desktops remain empty and I open
packages in them, as needed as I work.

Probably not explained too well, but it's late and I am weary.

Regards the original post, without using devilspie2, chromium is
staying now in the desktop where it is opened. BUt tomorrow is another
day.

Be well,
Charlie

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#170691

Charlie writes:
> I'm unsure when this was so programmed. In the old times one could
> mouse drag open packages into any desktop. There were no hard no go
> fences between them.

It was configured that way by whoever created the FVWM config file you
are using.  When I started using FVWM there were neither panes nor
desktops. I don't remember when they came in, but I think that the
virtual display was first.  There are zillions of example configurations
out there and some sort of default config is included in the Debian
package.  You can easily add more panes to your desktops and change the
number of desktops by editing .fvwm/config.  FVWM is almost infinitely
configurable.  My config is a horrifically encrusted thing that has been
evolving for twenty years.  I really should just re-write it.  It's
uglier than my .emacs.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#170688

Lisi writes:
> No, it wasn't.   I said and meant "desktop", otherwise known as
> workspace.

Ok, but that is confusing when discussing FVWM.

> If you say that the OP, who uses FVWM, said workspace and meant
> viewport, I cannot argue, since you obviously know FVWM, and I don't.

I've been using FVWM for about twenty years.  As David says, each FVWM
desktop (sometimes called a workspace) is a separate X display.  Getting
windows from one to another is, in my experience, not possible.  A
desktop can be much larger than the physical screen: it's a virtual
screen.  The viewport is properly the physical screen and can be moved
around the desktop smoothly or in steps.  It is common to divide each
desktop into panes (sometimes confusingly called viewports, workspaces,
or even desktops) and arrange for the viewport to "snap" from one pane
to the next.  Thus the viewport is often a porthole into a large virtual
screen. Some programs may be using the wrong mapping request so that the
window is located relative to the virtual screen rather than the
physical one.  This is a bug, of course, but you won't see it if your
virtual screen equals the physical screen, as is the usual case with
most window managers.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#170681

David writes:
> I ran two desktops on two screens/graphics cards in fvwm for many
> years and the boundary between them was impermeable.

That has been my experience running four FVWM desktops with sixteen
viewports each on my machine and also on my wife's machine.  Programs
do sometimes open in other viewports  but I've never had one show up on
the wrong desktop, and I've never found a way to move them there.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#170684

On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 07:29:23 -0500 John Hasler sent:

> David writes:
> > I ran two desktops on two screens/graphics cards in fvwm for many
> > years and the boundary between them was impermeable.  
> 
> That has been my experience running four FVWM desktops with sixteen
> viewports each on my machine and also on my wife's machine.  Programs
> do sometimes open in other viewports  but I've never had one show up
> on the wrong desktop, and I've never found a way to move them there.

	After contemplation, my reply is:

So there are four desktops labelled as described in my previous post,
and the four within those labelled desktops are called view ports.

Thank you for that clarification.

In the words of Confucius:

All wisdom is rooted in learning to call things by the right name. When
things are properly identified, they fall into natural categories and
understanding becomes orderly.
.....Confucius

So my original post should have read:

Chromium jumps onto different desktops and view ports, at random and as
it pleases. Not on the view port of the desktop on which it was opened.

Thank you.

Be well,
Charlie
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	is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be
	achieved  .......W J Bryan

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#170686

On Thursday 04 August 2016 14:02:45 Charlie wrote:
> All wisdom is rooted in learning to call things by the right name. When
> things are properly identified, they fall into natural categories and
> understanding becomes orderly.

Provided that everyone agrees on what the names mean.  In this case, as 
frequently, there is considerable disagreement on what the names mean. 

I once got an email asking me to check the check and check the list if it was 
correct.  Ouch!!  Now let me put that into "proper" (now there is another 
term we could argue about) English, as I eventually managed to do:

He wanted me to check the cheque, and tick the list if it was correct.

I will now go and put my trunk in the boot of my car, check the oil under the 
bonnet, and make sure that I have got enough petrol.  

(Translation for those who need it):
I will go put my large strong steel-bound canvas-covered wooden box in the 
trunk of my automobile, check the oil under the hood and make sure that I 
have enough gas.  (Translation not perfect - it is nearly 65 years since I 
did sixth grade)

There is no such thing as a "right name".  Sorry, Confucius. ;-)

Lisi

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#170687

On Thursday 04 August 2016 09:48:45 Lisi Reisz wrote:

> On Thursday 04 August 2016 14:02:45 Charlie wrote:
> > All wisdom is rooted in learning to call things by the right name.
> > When things are properly identified, they fall into natural
> > categories and understanding becomes orderly.
>
> Provided that everyone agrees on what the names mean.  In this case,
> as frequently, there is considerable disagreement on what the names
> mean.
>
> I once got an email asking me to check the check and check the list if
> it was correct.  Ouch!!  Now let me put that into "proper" (now there
> is another term we could argue about) English, as I eventually managed
> to do:
>
> He wanted me to check the cheque, and tick the list if it was correct.
>
> I will now go and put my trunk in the boot of my car, check the oil
> under the bonnet, and make sure that I have got enough petrol.
>
> (Translation for those who need it):
> I will go put my large strong steel-bound canvas-covered wooden box in
> the trunk of my automobile, check the oil under the hood and make sure
> that I have enough gas.  (Translation not perfect - it is nearly 65
> years since I did sixth grade)

75 for me.

> There is no such thing as a "right name".  Sorry, Confucius. ;-)
>
> Lisi

I would not make excuses for Confucius, he did not live in a time where 
we can send a message from small town West Virginia, USA, to Ulan Bator, 
Mongolia in a few hundred milliseconds. While he was an excellent 
observer and commentator of his times, he was also subject to the speed 
of communications.

The right "name" in my mind now has at least 10 aliases per name 
dependent on the locale of the speaker, and its those who do not learn 
that, are those which will find themselves left behind.

OTOH, the spoken version of what we both write and call English, is not 
as easily understood as the regional accents are much more different 
when spoken.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#170689

Lisi writes:
> There is no such thing as a "right name".

There may be no such thing as a "right name" but there is such a thing
as a correct name in a technical discussion.  It's easier for everyone
if we all use the definitions chosen by the authors of the software
(though I admit that even they are not always consistent).
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#170693

On Thursday 04 August 2016 16:26:25 John Hasler wrote:
> Lisi writes:
> > There is no such thing as a "right name".
>
> There may be no such thing as a "right name" but there is such a thing
> as a correct name in a technical discussion.  It's easier for everyone
> if we all use the definitions chosen by the authors of the software
> (though I admit that even they are not always consistent).

And the authors of the software (DE) I use, use the term desktop, and have 
done for many years - I have been using them for twelve - , which  you are 
correcting, for what you appear to be calling "viewports and desktops".   
My "desktops" appear to be both. :-/  Incidentally, I can have 20 if I want.  
(I currently have six).

I accept, since he has done himself, that the OP "misused" workspace, but at 
the point I responded to his query that was not evident.

Moreover, workspace in that meaning is sanctified by Wikipedia, so a good many 
people use it. 

Lisi

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#170696

Lisi writes:
> And the authors of the software (DE) I use, use the term desktop

But the software under discussion is FVWM, which, if I understand
correctly, is not what you use.  It would be nice if all the window
manager and desktop environment authors would agree on standard jargon,
but that is not reality.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#170699

On Thursday 04 August 2016 17:13:06 John Hasler wrote:
> Lisi writes:
> > And the authors of the software (DE) I use, use the term desktop
>
> But the software under discussion is FVWM, which, if I understand
> correctly, is not what you use.  It would be nice if all the window
> manager and desktop environment authors would agree on standard jargon,
> but that is not reality.

It wasn't originally.  Look at the subject header.  I specifically said in my 
original post that I did npt want a falme-war about terminology, but I seem 
to have got one any way.  The OP asked if anyone else had met the problem.  
At all.  In Chromium.  See the subject line above.  I have.  It is most 
irritating.  Blow your idea of the correct terminology which every person on 
the planet must use.

Go and argue with someone about folders and directories.

Lisi

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#170702

On Thu 04 Aug 2016 at 17:32:37 (+0100), Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Thursday 04 August 2016 17:13:06 John Hasler wrote:
> > Lisi writes:
> > > And the authors of the software (DE) I use, use the term desktop
> >
> > But the software under discussion is FVWM, which, if I understand
> > correctly, is not what you use.  It would be nice if all the window
> > manager and desktop environment authors would agree on standard jargon,
> > but that is not reality.
> 
> It wasn't originally.  Look at the subject header.

I apologise. I read line three of the OP which said 'Using FVWM'.

> I specifically said in my 
> original post that I did npt want a falme-war about terminology, but I seem 
> to have got one any way.  The OP asked if anyone else had met the problem.  
> At all.  In Chromium.  See the subject line above.  I have.  It is most 
> irritating.  Blow your idea of the correct terminology which every person on 
> the planet must use.

I then asked for clarification, which may have mystified people who
don't use a WM as flexible and configurable as fvwm. That flexibility
requires terms to describe it. Imagine you'd never seen xinerama and
had just come across it. You would need a term to distinguish it from
the multiple disjoint desktops that I mentioned at the start of my
second post (for which I my workaround would not work).

> Go and argue with someone about folders and directories.

They are effectively synonyms in this context. We (I) was trying to
discuss features that are superficially similar but have critical
differences in their behaviour.

Reviewing your posts, the first sympathetically commiserated with the OP,
the rest seemed to be arguing with those who knew something about fvwm
and were trying to comment on the problem and its possible amelioration.

Cheers,
David.

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#170703

On Thursday 04 August 2016 19:06:51 David Wright wrote:
> Reviewing your posts, the first sympathetically commiserated with the OP,
> the rest seemed to be arguing with those who knew something about fvwm
> and were trying to comment on the problem and its possible amelioration.

David, that is unfair.  I argued one thing only.  That what you are saying 
refers to you and FVWM and not to everybody.  

It does not apply to the software I use.  Why on earth are you so determined 
to argue?  I know nothing about FVWM and have never claimed to do so.  You 
told me that I was wrong in what I said, when I was not.  I argued against 
that.  I did not claim that it referred to FVWM.  In the DE I use, which I 
have used for 12 years through a name change, I use desktops and can move 
things from one desktop to another in the desktop preview and pager, in the 
panel, by drag and drop.  I can then go the relevant desktop and there it is.  
You can tell me that I am wrong all you like, it will not make me wrong.  Do 
stop arguing for the sake of it.  IT IS NOT FVWM and I never said that it 
was.  I said that it applied to Chrome (and chromium, of course.  See the 
subject line).  And that the facility meant that the problem is a minor 
annoyance only.  I know nothing about FVWM and would not pretend that I do.

Lisi

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#170708

On Thursday, August 04, 2016 02:34:15 PM Lisi Reisz wrote:
> It does not apply to the software I use.  Why on earth are you so
> determined to argue?  

You don't have to participate in an argument...

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#170711

On Thursday 04 August 2016 21:01:31 rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, August 04, 2016 02:34:15 PM Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > It does not apply to the software I use.  Why on earth are you so
> > determined to argue?
>
> You don't have to participate in an argument...

touchée! ;-)

Lisi

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#170760

On Thu 04 Aug 2016 at 19:34:15 (+0100), Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Thursday 04 August 2016 19:06:51 David Wright wrote:
> > Reviewing your posts, the first sympathetically commiserated with the OP,
> > the rest seemed to be arguing with those who knew something about fvwm
> > and were trying to comment on the problem and its possible amelioration.
> 
> David, that is unfair.  I argued one thing only.  That what you are saying 
> refers to you and FVWM and not to everybody.  
> 
> It does not apply to the software I use.  Why on earth are you so determined 
> to argue?  I know nothing about FVWM and have never claimed to do so.  You 
> told me that I was wrong in what I said, when I was not.  I argued against 
> that.  I did not claim that it referred to FVWM.  In the DE I use, which I 
> have used for 12 years through a name change, I use desktops and can move 
> things from one desktop to another in the desktop preview and pager, in the 
> panel, by drag and drop.  I can then go the relevant desktop and there it is.  
> You can tell me that I am wrong all you like, it will not make me wrong.  Do 
> stop arguing for the sake of it.

Please point out where I told you that you were wrong.
(Off list if you think it'll bore people.)

A summary of my posts:

1) https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/08/msg00051.html
Request for clarification from the OP in case their terminology is
more similar to yours than to mine or that in man fvwm.

2) https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/08/msg00060.html
A description of a workaround for the OP's problem, with a caveat that
it will only work with one of my interpretations of workspace.

3) https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/08/msg00068.html
A clarification of the terms I have used in post (2) with xterm
commands that anyone can use to ascertain whether the workaround will
work if they are using fvwm and can't figure out which meaning of
workspace applies.

4) https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/08/msg00098.html
Comments to the OP on their specific interactions they have had
with fvwm, and a further detail on my workaround.

5) https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/08/msg00099.html
a. An apology for not addressing a wider interpretation of the problem
(using the Subject line only) but restricting my comments to the
window manager mentioned in the OP.
b. The reason why I posted (1), ie my wondering which meaning of
workspace was intended by the OP.
c. A retort to your unnecessary exhortation.
d. My take on your postings.

> IT IS NOT FVWM and I never said that it was.

I haven't discussed your symptoms or software in my postings.
All my comments/workarounds have been written to the list for the
benefit of the OP and people like them using fvwm and chromium.
Whether it's polite to or not (on a list), I just ignored the
detail in your postings and concentrated on getting the workaround,
with its caveat and the gloss, onto the list.

> I said that it applied to Chrome (and chromium, of course.  See the 
> subject line).  And that the facility meant that the problem is a minor 
> annoyance only.

That's exactly what I ignored.

Having observed no difference in the behaviour of chromium and,
say, firefox on my systems, then my discussing it specifically
would be pointless, so I didn't bother.

How frustrating is it for the OP? I have no idea. I just got on with
posting my workaround.

> I know nothing about FVWM and would not pretend that I do.

I assumed that most people don't, which is why, after post (1) didn't
elicit a response from the OP, I made sure I was clear about what
*I* was describing, with concrete examples for clarification. All
written for the OP and the list, not for you or at you. Your first
posting merely triggered my writing (2) earlier than I might have
otherwise.

Cheers,
David.

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#170706

On Thursday, August 04, 2016 12:32:37 PM Lisi Reisz wrote:
> It wasn't originally.  Look at the subject header.  I specifically said in
> my original post that I did npt want a falme-war about terminology, but I
> seem to have got one any way.  The OP asked if anyone else had met the
> problem. At all.  In Chromium.  See the subject line above.  I have.  It
> is most irritating.  Blow your idea of the correct terminology which every
> person on the planet must use.

You don't have to participate in a flame war...



> 
> Go and argue with someone about folders and directories.
> 
> Lisi

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#170712

On Thursday 04 August 2016 20:59:03 rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, August 04, 2016 12:32:37 PM Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > It wasn't originally.  Look at the subject header.  I specifically said
> > in my original post that I did npt want a falme-war about terminology,
> > but I seem to have got one any way.  The OP asked if anyone else had met
> > the problem. At all.  In Chromium.  See the subject line above.  I have. 
> > It is most irritating.  Blow your idea of the correct terminology which
> > every person on the planet must use.
>
> You don't have to participate in a flame war...
>
It was witty *once*.

Lisi

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#170697

Hi,

John Hasler wrote:
> There may be no such thing as a "right name" but there is such a thing
> as a correct name in a technical discussion.

Reading The Funderful Manual:

  Fvwm provides both, a large virtual desktop and multiple disjoint
  desktops which can be used separately or together.  The virtual desktop
  allows you to pretend that your video screen is really quite large, and
  you can scroll around within the desktop.  The multiple disjoint
  desktops allow you to pretend that you really have several screens to
  work at, but each screen is completely unrelated to the others.

  [...]

  The screen is a viewport onto a desktop which may be larger than the
  screen. [...]
  each desktop can be larger than the physical screen, divided into m by n
  pages which are each the size of the physical screen [...]

I understand that the New Revised debian-user Terminology translates

  Workspace = Virtual desktop (one of multiple disjoint desktops)

  Viewport = Page of a virtual desktop (actually one can let the screen
             show neighboring parts of four pages)

I own a single 4x2 pages sized workspace. In most cases i use stickiness
and pager rather than dragging windows from page to page.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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#170700

On Thursday 04 August 2016 17:13:15 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> John Hasler wrote:
> > There may be no such thing as a "right name" but there is such a thing
> > as a correct name in a technical discussion.
>
> Reading The Funderful Manual:
>
>   Fvwm provides both, a large virtual desktop and multiple disjoint
>   desktops which can be used separately or together.  The virtual desktop
>   allows you to pretend that your video screen is really quite large, and
>   you can scroll around within the desktop.  The multiple disjoint
>   desktops allow you to pretend that you really have several screens to
>   work at, but each screen is completely unrelated to the others.
>
>   [...]
>
>   The screen is a viewport onto a desktop which may be larger than the
>   screen. [...]
>   each desktop can be larger than the physical screen, divided into m by n
>   pages which are each the size of the physical screen [...]
>
> I understand that the New Revised debian-user Terminology translates
>
>   Workspace = Virtual desktop (one of multiple disjoint desktops)
>
>   Viewport = Page of a virtual desktop (actually one can let the screen
>              show neighboring parts of four pages)
>
> I own a single 4x2 pages sized workspace. In most cases i use stickiness
> and pager rather than dragging windows from page to page.
>
>
> Have a nice day :)
>
> Thomas

Thanks, Thomas!!

Lisi

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