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| Started by | Charlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au> |
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| First post | 2016-08-03 03:20 +0200 |
| Last post | 2016-08-14 04:50 +0200 |
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Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Charlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au> - 2016-08-03 03:20 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 11:00 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Charlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au> - 2016-08-03 15:20 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 17:50 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Charlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au> - 2016-08-04 01:00 +0200
Re: Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Rodary Jacques <rodaryj@free.fr> - 2016-08-12 00:20 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Charlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au> - 2016-08-12 01:30 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-08-12 16:50 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 17:40 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Charlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au> - 2016-08-13 01:30 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Glenn English <ghe@slsware.net> - 2016-08-03 22:10 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 23:20 +0200
Re: Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Rodary Jacques <rodaryj@free.fr> - 2016-08-12 01:40 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 17:40 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-03 16:00 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 16:40 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-03 22:00 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 23:10 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-04 04:30 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 10:00 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Charlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au> - 2016-08-04 15:00 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-08-04 17:50 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-08-04 17:10 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-08-04 14:40 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Charlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au> - 2016-08-04 15:10 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 15:50 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-08-04 16:50 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-08-04 17:30 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 17:50 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-08-04 18:20 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 18:40 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-04 20:10 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 20:40 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-08-04 22:10 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 23:30 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-05 22:30 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... rhkramer@gmail.com - 2016-08-04 22:00 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 23:30 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2016-08-04 18:20 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 18:40 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Charlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au> - 2016-08-04 15:20 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-08-04 17:40 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-04 20:00 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Charlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au> - 2016-08-06 01:40 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-08-14 04:20 +0200
Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes....... Charlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au> - 2016-08-14 04:50 +0200
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| From | Charlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au> |
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| Date | 2016-08-04 15:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <s2qJ4-1aK-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #170681 |
On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 07:29:23 -0500 John Hasler sent: > Programs do sometimes open in other viewports...... After contemplation, my reply is: Until now, I have never had a program open in a different viewport from where it was opened, unless........... Brought up and clicked on a program and before it could open, moved my mouse cursor onto a different viewport and/or desktop before the program/package had opened. So after opening a program on a viewport that I had just had another program finish opening. I would click on another program, and before it opened, move the cursor to the desktop and viewport where I wanted it to open and click on it, and it would open in that location. However, that is by design. It opened exactly where required. Stay well, Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 *********************************************** For take thy balance if thou be so wise And weigh the wind that under heaven doth blow; Or weigh the light that in the east doth rise; Or weigh the thought that from man's mind doth flow. ....................Voltaire *********************************************** Debian GNU/Linux - Magic indeed. -----------------------------------------------------
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| From | John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> |
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| Date | 2016-08-04 17:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <s2sUy-2Lw-27@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #170685 |
Charlie writes: > So after opening a program on a viewport that I had just had another > program finish opening. I would click on another program, and before > it opened, move the cursor to the desktop and viewport where I wanted > it to open and click on it, and it would open in that > location. However, that is by design. It opened exactly where > required. Yes, that is correct: it is mapping relative to the viewport rather than to the display (I should have written "pane" rather than "viewport" as in FVWM jargon the viewport is what the physical screen shows while a "pane" is a section of the desktop). However, I have also had programs pop up a window in a pane that is not in the viewport. My wife has a Javascript thing that does it consistently. -- John Hasler jhasler@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA
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| From | David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2016-08-04 20:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <s2v62-4dg-17@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #170685 |
On Thu 04 Aug 2016 at 23:17:08 (+1000), Charlie wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 07:29:23 -0500 John Hasler sent:
>
> > Programs do sometimes open in other viewports......
>
> After contemplation, my reply is:
>
> Until now, I have never had a program open in a different viewport from
> where it was opened, unless...........
>
> Brought up and clicked on a program and before it could open, moved my
> mouse cursor onto a different viewport and/or desktop before the
> program/package had opened.
Yes, that's normal behaviour. It is, of course, a race because you
might not make it all the way to the desired location.
Sometimes fvwm can get tripped up itself. When I start X, I map
22 xterms on the 20 pages (xterm terminology). Occasionally, the first
xterm will map on Page: 0 0 before fvwm has managed to switch to
Page: 4 3 (I map them in turn from bottom right to top left).
The tool that allows me to map so many so quickly is xtoolwait, for which
I still have to run the squeeze version.
> So after opening a program on a viewport that I had just had another
> program finish opening. I would click on another program, and before it
> opened, move the cursor to the desktop and viewport where I wanted it to
> open and click on it, and it would open in that location. However, that
> is by design. It opened exactly where required.
That sounds as if you're using Style * ManualPlacement
which requires you to click to place the window when its frame
appears (tethered to the cursor). I used to use that years ago but
prefer Style * TileCascadePlacement nowadays.
Applications can dodge being placed manually if thy specify their
own geometry specifically.
But I thought I would point out one detail in the workaround I gave.
In the lines
+ I All ('*Mozilla Firefox*') PipeRead '/bin/cat ${HOME}/.fvwm/move-firefox'
+ I All ('*Chromium*') PipeRead '/bin/cat ${HOME}/.fvwm/move-chromium'
the string is a pattern, so the asterisks at each end allow for the
frequent changes in the Window Title that occur as you navigate
the web. (You probably only need to first *.)
Cheers,
David.
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| From | Charlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-08-06 01:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <s2WSB-5TC-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #170701 |
On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 12:47:43 -0500 David Wright sent:
> On Thu 04 Aug 2016 at 23:17:08 (+1000), Charlie wrote:
> > On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 07:29:23 -0500 John Hasler sent:
> >
> > > Programs do sometimes open in other viewports......
> >
> > After contemplation, my reply is:
> >
> > Until now, I have never had a program open in a different viewport
> > from where it was opened, unless...........
> >
> > Brought up and clicked on a program and before it could open, moved
> > my mouse cursor onto a different viewport and/or desktop before the
> > program/package had opened.
>
> Yes, that's normal behaviour. It is, of course, a race because you
> might not make it all the way to the desired location.
>
> Sometimes fvwm can get tripped up itself. When I start X, I map
> 22 xterms on the 20 pages (xterm terminology). Occasionally, the first
> xterm will map on Page: 0 0 before fvwm has managed to switch to
> Page: 4 3 (I map them in turn from bottom right to top left).
>
> The tool that allows me to map so many so quickly is xtoolwait, for
> which I still have to run the squeeze version.
>
> > So after opening a program on a viewport that I had just had another
> > program finish opening. I would click on another program, and
> > before it opened, move the cursor to the desktop and viewport where
> > I wanted it to open and click on it, and it would open in that
> > location. However, that is by design. It opened exactly where
> > required.
>
> That sounds as if you're using Style * ManualPlacement
> which requires you to click to place the window when its frame
> appears (tethered to the cursor). I used to use that years ago but
> prefer Style * TileCascadePlacement nowadays.
>
> Applications can dodge being placed manually if thy specify their
> own geometry specifically.
>
> But I thought I would point out one detail in the workaround I gave.
> In the lines
>
> + I All ('*Mozilla Firefox*') PipeRead '/bin/cat
> ${HOME}/.fvwm/move-firefox'
> + I All ('*Chromium*') PipeRead '/bin/cat ${HOME}/.fvwm/move-chromium'
>
> the string is a pattern, so the asterisks at each end allow for the
> frequent changes in the Window Title that occur as you navigate
> the web. (You probably only need to first *.)
>
> Cheers,
> David.
After contemplation, my reply is:
Thanks for your help David and others for letting me know I'm not
alone in this. It's very much appreciated.
Unfortunately, though I use FVWM I don't understand much about it and
am not certain where I should place what you have offered above. But,
other FVWM users, I am certain, will know.
Demonstration of my ignorance about FVWM:
New machine, format hard drive, install Debian testing. Install
packages individually as I need them.
Need and download FVWM then an FVWM configuration and remove and tweak
and try and, get what I like without knowing what I'm doing.
An instance is ~/.fvwm/menudefs.hook is never read. Don't know how to
get it read when the X server starts.
Some upgrades change the /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook, which
is read. The Debian menu no longer being created or read or whatever.
So just quickly copy my ~/.fvwm/menudefs.hook
to /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook and restart fvwm and am working again
with the Debian menu as I like it.
A task, yes, but simple enough.
It will however, demonstrate that I have no idea what I'm doing. Maybe
something to do with dumbness as I left school at age 14 years of age
and didn't touch a computer till I was 52 years old as I am a
peasanto, a man of the land.
So thank you for your help and taking the time to offer it. Though I'm
unable to do anything with it, I'm certain others will.
Be well,
Charlie
--
Registered Linux User:- 329524
***********************************************
In the midst of this chopping sea of civilized life, such are
the clouds and storms and quicksands and thousand-and-one items
to be allowed for, that a man has to live, if he would not
founder and go to the bottom and not make his port at all, by
dead reckoning, and he must be a great calculator indeed who
succeeds..................Henry David Thoreau
***********************************************
Debian GNU/Linux - Magic indeed.
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| From | David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-08-14 04:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <s5TbP-1vf-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #170768 |
On Sat 06 Aug 2016 at 09:31:06 (+1000), Charlie wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 12:47:43 -0500 David Wright sent:
>
> > On Thu 04 Aug 2016 at 23:17:08 (+1000), Charlie wrote:
> > > On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 07:29:23 -0500 John Hasler sent:
> > >
> > > > Programs do sometimes open in other viewports......
> > >
> > > After contemplation, my reply is:
> > >
> > > Until now, I have never had a program open in a different viewport
> > > from where it was opened, unless...........
> > >
> > > Brought up and clicked on a program and before it could open, moved
> > > my mouse cursor onto a different viewport and/or desktop before the
> > > program/package had opened.
> >
> > Yes, that's normal behaviour. It is, of course, a race because you
> > might not make it all the way to the desired location.
> >
> > Sometimes fvwm can get tripped up itself. When I start X, I map
> > 22 xterms on the 20 pages (xterm terminology). Occasionally, the first
> > xterm will map on Page: 0 0 before fvwm has managed to switch to
> > Page: 4 3 (I map them in turn from bottom right to top left).
> >
> > The tool that allows me to map so many so quickly is xtoolwait, for
> > which I still have to run the squeeze version.
> >
> > > So after opening a program on a viewport that I had just had another
> > > program finish opening. I would click on another program, and
> > > before it opened, move the cursor to the desktop and viewport where
> > > I wanted it to open and click on it, and it would open in that
> > > location. However, that is by design. It opened exactly where
> > > required.
> >
> > That sounds as if you're using Style * ManualPlacement
> > which requires you to click to place the window when its frame
> > appears (tethered to the cursor). I used to use that years ago but
> > prefer Style * TileCascadePlacement nowadays.
> >
> > Applications can dodge being placed manually if thy specify their
> > own geometry specifically.
> >
> > But I thought I would point out one detail in the workaround I gave.
> > In the lines
> >
> > + I All ('*Mozilla Firefox*') PipeRead '/bin/cat
> > ${HOME}/.fvwm/move-firefox'
> > + I All ('*Chromium*') PipeRead '/bin/cat ${HOME}/.fvwm/move-chromium'
> >
> > the string is a pattern, so the asterisks at each end allow for the
> > frequent changes in the Window Title that occur as you navigate
> > the web. (You probably only need to first *.)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > David.
>
> After contemplation, my reply is:
>
> Thanks for your help David and others for letting me know I'm not
> alone in this. It's very much appreciated.
>
> Unfortunately, though I use FVWM I don't understand much about it and
> am not certain where I should place what you have offered above. But,
> other FVWM users, I am certain, will know.
>
> Demonstration of my ignorance about FVWM:
>
> New machine, format hard drive, install Debian testing. Install
> packages individually as I need them.
>
> Need and download FVWM then an FVWM configuration and remove and tweak
> and try and, get what I like without knowing what I'm doing.
>
> An instance is ~/.fvwm/menudefs.hook is never read. Don't know how to
> get it read when the X server starts.
I'm not sure what you downloaded as "an FVWM configuration" into your
home directory. You could start with, for example, the version in
/usr/share/doc/fvwm/examples/system.fvwm2rc.Debian.gz by zcat-ing it
to ~/.fvwm/config which should read ~/.fvwm/menudefs.hook (at line 2307
in jessie's version).
> Some upgrades change the /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook, which
> is read. The Debian menu no longer being created or read or whatever.
>
> So just quickly copy my ~/.fvwm/menudefs.hook
> to /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook and restart fvwm and am working again
> with the Debian menu as I like it.
>
> A task, yes, but simple enough.
>
> It will however, demonstrate that I have no idea what I'm doing. Maybe
> something to do with dumbness as I left school at age 14 years of age
> and didn't touch a computer till I was 52 years old as I am a
> peasanto, a man of the land.
>
> So thank you for your help and taking the time to offer it. Though I'm
> unable to do anything with it, I'm certain others will.
I use a very much older configuration file which is a lot smaller,
dating from 2001. I can send you a copy if you'd like to try it.
It has more hooks that can be used to tailor it (I haven't touched
its contents since 2002-04-08) and I can include those as well.
You can then copy or modify whatever you please.
Cheers,
David.
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| From | Charlie <ariestao1@ipstarmail.com.au> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-08-14 04:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <s5TER-1GQ-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #171071 |
On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 21:10:54 -0500 David Wright sent:
> On Sat 06 Aug 2016 at 09:31:06 (+1000), Charlie wrote:
> > On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 12:47:43 -0500 David Wright sent:
> >
> > > On Thu 04 Aug 2016 at 23:17:08 (+1000), Charlie wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 07:29:23 -0500 John Hasler sent:
> > > >
> > > > > Programs do sometimes open in other viewports......
> > > >
> > > > After contemplation, my reply is:
> > > >
> > > > Until now, I have never had a program open in a different
> > > > viewport from where it was opened, unless...........
> > > >
> > > > Brought up and clicked on a program and before it could open,
> > > > moved my mouse cursor onto a different viewport and/or desktop
> > > > before the program/package had opened.
> > >
> > > Yes, that's normal behaviour. It is, of course, a race because you
> > > might not make it all the way to the desired location.
> > >
> > > Sometimes fvwm can get tripped up itself. When I start X, I map
> > > 22 xterms on the 20 pages (xterm terminology). Occasionally, the
> > > first xterm will map on Page: 0 0 before fvwm has managed to
> > > switch to Page: 4 3 (I map them in turn from bottom right to top
> > > left).
> > >
> > > The tool that allows me to map so many so quickly is xtoolwait,
> > > for which I still have to run the squeeze version.
> > >
> > > > So after opening a program on a viewport that I had just had
> > > > another program finish opening. I would click on another
> > > > program, and before it opened, move the cursor to the desktop
> > > > and viewport where I wanted it to open and click on it, and it
> > > > would open in that location. However, that is by design. It
> > > > opened exactly where required.
> > >
> > > That sounds as if you're using Style * ManualPlacement
> > > which requires you to click to place the window when its frame
> > > appears (tethered to the cursor). I used to use that years ago but
> > > prefer Style * TileCascadePlacement nowadays.
> > >
> > > Applications can dodge being placed manually if thy specify their
> > > own geometry specifically.
> > >
> > > But I thought I would point out one detail in the workaround I
> > > gave. In the lines
> > >
> > > + I All ('*Mozilla Firefox*') PipeRead '/bin/cat
> > > ${HOME}/.fvwm/move-firefox'
> > > + I All ('*Chromium*') PipeRead '/bin/cat
> > > ${HOME}/.fvwm/move-chromium'
> > >
> > > the string is a pattern, so the asterisks at each end allow for
> > > the frequent changes in the Window Title that occur as you
> > > navigate the web. (You probably only need to first *.)
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > David.
> >
> > After contemplation, my reply is:
> >
> > Thanks for your help David and others for letting me know I'm not
> > alone in this. It's very much appreciated.
> >
> > Unfortunately, though I use FVWM I don't understand much about it
> > and am not certain where I should place what you have offered
> > above. But, other FVWM users, I am certain, will know.
> >
> > Demonstration of my ignorance about FVWM:
> >
> > New machine, format hard drive, install Debian testing. Install
> > packages individually as I need them.
> >
> > Need and download FVWM then an FVWM configuration and remove and
> > tweak and try and, get what I like without knowing what I'm doing.
> >
> > An instance is ~/.fvwm/menudefs.hook is never read. Don't know how
> > to get it read when the X server starts.
>
> I'm not sure what you downloaded as "an FVWM configuration" into your
> home directory. You could start with, for example, the version in
> /usr/share/doc/fvwm/examples/system.fvwm2rc.Debian.gz by zcat-ing it
> to ~/.fvwm/config which should read ~/.fvwm/menudefs.hook (at line
> 2307 in jessie's version).
>
> > Some upgrades change the /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook, which
> > is read. The Debian menu no longer being created or read or
> > whatever.
> >
> > So just quickly copy my ~/.fvwm/menudefs.hook
> > to /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook and restart fvwm and am working again
> > with the Debian menu as I like it.
> >
> > A task, yes, but simple enough.
> >
> > It will however, demonstrate that I have no idea what I'm doing.
> > Maybe something to do with dumbness as I left school at age 14
> > years of age and didn't touch a computer till I was 52 years old as
> > I am a peasanto, a man of the land.
> >
> > So thank you for your help and taking the time to offer it. Though
> > I'm unable to do anything with it, I'm certain others will.
>
> I use a very much older configuration file which is a lot smaller,
> dating from 2001. I can send you a copy if you'd like to try it.
> It has more hooks that can be used to tailor it (I haven't touched
> its contents since 2002-04-08) and I can include those as well.
> You can then copy or modify whatever you please.
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
After contemplation, my reply is:
Thanks David,
I would like to try it and see how I go with it. Like you
wrote, I think in this thread: there are plenty of configurations of
FVWM out there and I have tried a few.
The one I use is the Debian standard I think? Some small tweaks, tested
each time with a restart FVWM, to see how it looks/works. [laughing]
According to top:
charlie 20 0 169192 15524 12384 S 0.0 0.4 0:05.25 fvwm
Uses 00 CPU and only 0.4% memory so everything works rather quickly and
I like it.
Brevity is not something near and dear to me, so in short, yes thank
you.
Charlie
--
Registered Linux User:- 329524
***********************************************
The first thing you learn in life is you're a fool. The last
thing you learn is you're the same fool. Sometimes I think I
understand everything. Then I regain consciousness. -RAY
BRADBURY
***********************************************
Debian GNU/Linux - Magic indeed.
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