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  (OT) Disable Secure Boot, et al Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 02:30 +0200
    Re: (OT) Disable Secure Boot, et al didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 08:10 +0200
      Re: (OT) Disable Secure Boot, et al Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2016-08-05 17:30 +0200

#170721 — (OT) Disable Secure Boot, et al

Hi! All,

Anyway to enter UEFI Firmware Setup on contemporary UEFI W8/10 notebooks
without having to go through Windows?  That is, is there a keyboard
combo, secret button or incantation whether or not a hard drive/OS is
installed. As far as my research goes, there's not.

I'm looking to buy a new notebook to put a custom install of Linux on
with as few problems as possible.  Which distro remains to be
chosen, but it definitely WON'T be Ubuntu (I've always hated it) or
SUSE or Fedora which I abandoned because of its 6 month release cycles
and 13 month support.

Thanks.

B

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#170724

Le 05/08/2016 à 02:25, Patrick Bartek a écrit :
> Hi! All,
> 
> Anyway to enter UEFI Firmware Setup on contemporary UEFI W8/10 notebooks
> without having to go through Windows?  That is, is there a keyboard
> combo, secret button or incantation whether or not a hard drive/OS is
> installed. As far as my research goes, there's not.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh825112.aspx
The dual-boot HP little notebook I am using right now to answer your
question was factory installed with Windows 8, has migrated to Windows
10 and still enters at boot in UEFI management mode by pressing a Fn key
(probably F9, I don't remember)

> I'm looking to buy a new notebook to put a custom install of Linux on
> with as few problems as possible.  Which distro remains to be
> chosen, but it definitely WON'T be Ubuntu (I've always hated it) or
> SUSE or Fedora which I abandoned because of its 6 month release cycles
> and 13 month support.

If your only gripe with Fedora is the 6 months release circle, you could
be interested in CentOS which nowadays is essentially a Red Hat
trademark and their free-of-charge-with-no-support version of RHEL.
And an advantage of RHEL/CentOS from version 7 on, that could be
valuable to you, is its ability to boot in Secure Mode.

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#170738

On Fri, 5 Aug 2016 08:00:04 +0200 didier gaumet
<didier.gaumet@gmail.com> wrote:

> Le 05/08/2016 à 02:25, Patrick Bartek a écrit :
> > Hi! All,
> > 
> > Anyway to enter UEFI Firmware Setup on contemporary UEFI W8/10
> > notebooks without having to go through Windows?  That is, is there
> > a keyboard combo, secret button or incantation whether or not a
> > hard drive/OS is installed. As far as my research goes, there's not.
> 
> https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh825112.aspx

Thanks, but it seems that with W10 that procedure, at least on some
notebooks is no longer available, and you must boot fully into W10 to
get the UEFI Firmware Settings menu.  Progress.

> The dual-boot HP little notebook I am using right now to answer your
> question was factory installed with Windows 8, has migrated to Windows
> 10 and still enters at boot in UEFI management mode by pressing a Fn
> key (probably F9, I don't remember)

I'm finding from reading user manuals that the options and procedures
vary manufacturer to manufacturer  with more and more really locking
down the system to Windows 10 making it difficult, if not impossible,
to install Linux.  Guess I'll have to be very particular which
manufacturer/notebook I purchase.

> > I'm looking to buy a new notebook to put a custom install of Linux
> > on with as few problems as possible.  Which distro remains to be
> > chosen, but it definitely WON'T be Ubuntu (I've always hated it) or
> > SUSE or Fedora which I abandoned because of its 6 month release
> > cycles and 13 month support.
> 
> If your only gripe with Fedora is the 6 months release circle, you
> could be interested in CentOS which nowadays is essentially a Red Hat
> trademark and their free-of-charge-with-no-support version of RHEL.
> And an advantage of RHEL/CentOS from version 7 on, that could be
> valuable to you, is its ability to boot in Secure Mode.

Last time I checked CentOS (last year) didn't support Secure Boot
like RHEL.  Maybe, that's changed.  Although, I consider Cent & RHEL
more suited for servers than general use computing.  However, I'll
revisit CentOS..

Thanks for you input.

B

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