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  Chromium.  Good Alternative for Chrome? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2016-05-12 04:00 +0200
    Re: Chromium.  Good Alternative for Chrome? Rodary Jacques <rodaryj@free.fr> - 2016-05-12 05:10 +0200
      Re: Chromium.  Good Alternative for Chrome? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2016-05-12 18:00 +0200
    Re: Chromium.  Good Alternative for Chrome? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-05-12 09:20 +0200
      Re: Chromium.  Good Alternative for Chrome? steve <dlist@bluewin.ch> - 2016-05-12 10:00 +0200
      Re: Chromium.  Good Alternative for Chrome? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-05-12 10:00 +0200
        Re: Chromium.  Good Alternative for Chrome? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-05-12 10:50 +0200
        Re: Chromium. Good Alternative for Chrome? Alex Mestiashvili <mailatgoogl@gmail.com> - 2016-05-12 11:20 +0200
      Re: Chromium.  Good Alternative for Chrome? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2016-05-12 17:40 +0200
    Re: Chromium. Good Alternative for Chrome? Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2016-05-12 11:10 +0200
    Re: Chromium. Good Alternative for Chrome? "heqamilus@runbox.com" <heqamilus@runbox.com> - 2016-05-12 21:10 +0200
      Re: Chromium. Good Alternative for Chrome? Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2016-05-12 22:00 +0200

#167758 — Chromium. Good Alternative for Chrome?

Now that Google Chrome support has ceased for Wheezy (and others), and
since I have no plans to upgrade the OS for another 2 years when it
reaches LTS EOL, would Chromium make a decent alternative? Is it stable
enough for regular use?  I've never used it and opinions vary.
Everything I've read says Chromium is "cutting edge." Are we talking
"Unstable-like" to "Testing?" Or Fedora to Red Hat?

Any alternatives instead of Chromium?  I mainly desire
stability, security and longevity.  Already have the most recent
version of Firefox installed, but prefer it only as a back up.
Iceweasel has been purged.

Or, maybe, I'll just continue to use the old, unsupported Chrome.

Thanks.

B

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#167759

> Le 12 mai 2016 à 03:57, Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> a écrit :
> 
> Now that Google Chrome support has ceased for Wheezy (and others), and
> since I have no plans to upgrade the OS for another 2 years when it
> reaches LTS EOL, would Chromium make a decent alternative? Is it stable
> enough for regular use?  I've never used it and opinions vary.
> Everything I've read says Chromium is "cutting edge." Are we talking
> "Unstable-like" to "Testing?" Or Fedora to Red Hat?
> 
> Any alternatives instead of Chromium?  I mainly desire
> stability, security and longevity.  Already have the most recent
> version of Firefox installed, but prefer it only as a back up.
> Iceweasel has been purged.
> 
> Or, maybe, I'll just continue to use the old, unsupported Chrome.

Give a try at Opera. I find it great.
Jacques

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#167776

On Thu, 12 May 2016, Rodary Jacques wrote:

> 
> > Le 12 mai 2016 à 03:57, Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> a
> > écrit :
> > 
> > Now that Google Chrome support has ceased for Wheezy (and others),
> > and since I have no plans to upgrade the OS for another 2 years
> > when it reaches LTS EOL, would Chromium make a decent alternative?
> > Is it stable enough for regular use?  I've never used it and
> > opinions vary. Everything I've read says Chromium is "cutting
> > edge." Are we talking "Unstable-like" to "Testing?" Or Fedora to
> > Red Hat?
> > 
> > Any alternatives instead of Chromium?  I mainly desire
> > stability, security and longevity.  Already have the most recent
> > version of Firefox installed, but prefer it only as a back up.
> > Iceweasel has been purged.
> > 
> > Or, maybe, I'll just continue to use the old, unsupported Chrome.
> 
> Give a try at Opera. I find it great.
> Jacques

I installed Opera last week to test and it worked fine, but this
week it refuses to load.*  So, purged it.  Decided to manually set up
opera repo, etc. instead of downloading the deb file from Opera as
I had done originally.  As yet haven't reinstalled.  Thought I'd check
on Chromium first.

B

* Maybe my converting over to opejdk7-jre and icedtea-7-plugin as
  the Oracle noticed stated (and purging 6) caused the problem.

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#167762

On 2016-05-12, Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> wrote:
> Now that Google Chrome support has ceased for Wheezy (and others), and
> since I have no plans to upgrade the OS for another 2 years when it
> reaches LTS EOL, would Chromium make a decent alternative? Is it stable
> enough for regular use?  I've never used it and opinions vary.
> Everything I've read says Chromium is "cutting edge." Are we talking
> "Unstable-like" to "Testing?" Or Fedora to Red Hat?

Chromium would not be a good choice in Wheezy LTS as its life
has ended in Wheezy.

https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2016-1622

You should probably run 'check-support-status' to obtain a list of
packages on your machine that are no longer supported security-wise.

> Any alternatives instead of Chromium?  I mainly desire
> stability, security and longevity.  Already have the most recent
> version of Firefox installed, but prefer it only as a back up.
> Iceweasel has been purged.
>
> Or, maybe, I'll just continue to use the old, unsupported Chrome.
>
> Thanks.
>
> B
>
>


-- 
Hypertext--or should I say the ideology of hypertext?--is ultrademocratic and
so entirely in harmony with the demagogic appeals to cultural democracy that
accompany (and distract one’s attention from) the ever-tightening grip of 
plutocratic capitalism. - Susan Sontag

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#167764

Hi,

Install the package 'debian-security-support'.

Best,
Steve

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#167765

On Thursday 12 May 2016 08:12:22 Curt wrote:
> You should probably run 'check-support-status' to obtain a list of
> packages on your machine that are no longer supported security-wise.

lisi@Tux-II:~$ check-support-status
check-support-status: command not found
lisi@Tux-II:~$ aptitude show check-support-status
E: Unable to locate package check-support-status
lisi@Tux-II:~$

???

lisi@Tux-II:~$ cat /etc/debian_version
7.10
lisi@Tux-II:~$

Lisi

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#167767

On 2016-05-12, Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday 12 May 2016 08:12:22 Curt wrote:
>> You should probably run 'check-support-status' to obtain a list of
>> packages on your machine that are no longer supported security-wise.
>
> lisi@Tux-II:~$ check-support-status
> check-support-status: command not found

https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Using

-- 
Hypertext--or should I say the ideology of hypertext?--is ultrademocratic and
so entirely in harmony with the demagogic appeals to cultural democracy that
accompany (and distract one’s attention from) the ever-tightening grip of 
plutocratic capitalism. - Susan Sontag

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#167771 — Re: Chromium. Good Alternative for Chrome?

On 05/12/2016 09:49 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Thursday 12 May 2016 08:12:22 Curt wrote:
>> You should probably run 'check-support-status' to obtain a list of
>> packages on your machine that are no longer supported security-wise.
> 
> lisi@Tux-II:~$ check-support-status
> check-support-status: command not found
> lisi@Tux-II:~$ aptitude show check-support-status
> E: Unable to locate package check-support-status

In this case you are looking for a file from a package and not for a
package.

try apt-file search check-support-status

assuming that apt-file is installed and updated..

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#167775

On Thu, 12 May 2016, Curt wrote:

> On 2016-05-12, Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Now that Google Chrome support has ceased for Wheezy (and others),
> > and since I have no plans to upgrade the OS for another 2 years
> > when it reaches LTS EOL, would Chromium make a decent alternative?
> > Is it stable enough for regular use?  I've never used it and
> > opinions vary. Everything I've read says Chromium is "cutting
> > edge." Are we talking "Unstable-like" to "Testing?" Or Fedora to
> > Red Hat?
> 
> Chromium would not be a good choice in Wheezy LTS as its life
> has ended in Wheezy.

Thanks for the info.  I hadn't gotten far enough in my research to
realize this.  So, Chromium is outed!

> https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2016-1622
> 
> You should probably run 'check-support-status' to obtain a list of
> packages on your machine that are no longer supported security-wise.

Thanks.

B

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#167770 — Re: Chromium. Good Alternative for Chrome?

Chromium used to have screen reader acessibility which was useable with 
orca but that went away then speech-dispatcher support was available for 
a short time and now that's gone too.  So long as you won't need screen 
reader accessibility with orca you should be good to go.

On Wed, 11 May 2016, Patrick Bartek wrote:

> Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 21:57:22
> From: Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Chromium. Good Alternative for Chrome?
> Resent-Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 01:57:48 +0000 (UTC)
> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> 
> Now that Google Chrome support has ceased for Wheezy (and others), and
> since I have no plans to upgrade the OS for another 2 years when it
> reaches LTS EOL, would Chromium make a decent alternative? Is it stable
> enough for regular use?  I've never used it and opinions vary.
> Everything I've read says Chromium is "cutting edge." Are we talking
> "Unstable-like" to "Testing?" Or Fedora to Red Hat?
>
> Any alternatives instead of Chromium?  I mainly desire
> stability, security and longevity.  Already have the most recent
> version of Firefox installed, but prefer it only as a back up.
> Iceweasel has been purged.
>
> Or, maybe, I'll just continue to use the old, unsupported Chrome.
>
> Thanks.
>
> B
>
>

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#167785 — Re: Chromium. Good Alternative for Chrome?

Firefox/iceweasel is the best choice

Anyway
Google Chrome is based on chromium, so is a replacement

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#167787 — Re: Chromium. Good Alternative for Chrome?

On Thu, 12 May 2016, heqamilus@runbox.com wrote:

> Firefox/iceweasel is the best choice

Installed the new Firefox (and its repo) a while ago, but prefer it
only as a back up just like Iceweasel which I've since purged.  One
caveat being both used Adobe Flash which caused problems on some sites
I frequent -- not "current" enough.  No problem with Chrome/pepperflash
though.

> Anyway
> Google Chrome is based on chromium, so is a replacement

I was hoping that Chromium unlike Chrome might still be supported in
Wheezy.  I've since discovered, it's not.  Considering Opera now.
Looks like it uses pepperflash.  Unfortunately, don't know as yet, if
updates to Opera will also update pepperflash, too.  I'll be glad when
Flash is finally and totally abandoned.

I'm getting to the point now that I might just continue to use
Chrome, supported or not, until it stops doing the job.

B

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