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  Installing jessie on laptop from usb live iso Ralph Sanchez <rwsanchez3@gmail.com> - 2016-05-05 03:00 +0200
    Re: Installing jessie on laptop from usb live iso David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-05-05 03:40 +0200
      Re: Installing jessie on laptop from usb live iso Ralph Sanchez <rwsanchez3@gmail.com> - 2016-05-05 04:20 +0200
        Re: Installing jessie on laptop from usb live iso Ralph Sanchez <rwsanchez3@gmail.com> - 2016-05-05 09:20 +0200
          Re: Installing jessie on laptop from usb live iso Ralph Sanchez <rwsanchez3@gmail.com> - 2016-05-05 09:30 +0200
            Re: Installing jessie on laptop from usb live iso Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-05-05 10:20 +0200
            Re: Installing jessie on laptop from usb live iso Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-05-05 11:50 +0200
          Re: Installing jessie on laptop from usb live iso Elimar Riesebieter <riesebie@lxtec.de> - 2016-05-05 14:20 +0200
            Re: Installing jessie on laptop from usb live iso Ralph Sanchez <rwsanchez3@gmail.com> - 2016-05-05 15:50 +0200
              Re: Installing jessie on laptop from usb live iso Ralph Sanchez <rwsanchez3@gmail.com> - 2016-05-05 16:10 +0200
              Re: Installing jessie on laptop from usb live iso David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-05-05 19:10 +0200
                Re: Installing jessie on laptop from usb live iso Ralph Sanchez <rwsanchez3@gmail.com> - 2016-05-05 21:00 +0200

#167485 — Installing jessie on laptop from usb live iso

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Ok, so i have followed the installation manual to the t so far, and after
overwritong with random data, confirming the partitions, and installing the
system, the installer is asking me insert a debian live cd into my cdrom
that doesnt exist! Whats going on here and what do i do?

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#167486

On Wed 04 May 2016 at 20:50:32 (-0400), Ralph Sanchez wrote:
> Ok, so i have followed the installation manual to the t so far, and after
> overwritong with random data, confirming the partitions, and installing the
> system, the installer is asking me insert a debian live cd into my cdrom
> that doesnt exist! Whats going on here and what do i do?

Would something along the lines of
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/01/msg01117.html
help? This is to get it to use the USB stick where it's
trying to use a CDROM (but with the installer rather than
a live CD).

Apologies if that's not your problem.

Cheers,
David.

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#167487

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Thanks but no, thats not the issue...i am installing from a live iso image
booted from usb, went to the installer in the live boot, got all the way
through the overwrite, partitioning and encryption and then got a message
telling me to insert such and such debian jessie cd in cdrom

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016, David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:

> On Wed 04 May 2016 at 20:50:32 (-0400), Ralph Sanchez wrote:
> > Ok, so i have followed the installation manual to the t so far, and after
> > overwritong with random data, confirming the partitions, and installing
> the
> > system, the installer is asking me insert a debian live cd into my cdrom
> > that doesnt exist! Whats going on here and what do i do?
>
> Would something along the lines of
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/01/msg01117.html
> help? This is to get it to use the USB stick where it's
> trying to use a CDROM (but with the installer rather than
> a live CD).
>
> Apologies if that's not your problem.
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
>

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#167489

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Update: like i said, i am running from the install from within the Live
boot from usb. I configured network, partitioning, etc and got to
installing system. Bar is about 95 percent full and says retreiving file 1
of 2 when it switches to a windows saying ::    /media/cdrom/:Please insert
the disc labeled: 'Debian GNU/Linux 8 _jessie_-Official Snapshot amd64
LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20160402-2159' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press
enter.       Wtf.....i dont have a cd drive, my hdd is now wiped and
encrypted, and any attempt to say download the net iso or the cd1 kde iso
and install it on another usb using the cp debain.iso dev/sbX command
recommended in the manual for burning a iso from within linux fails saying
i dont have permission for sdX, sdc in this case, although i can save files
to it in a normal fashion. What gives here? What can i possibly do short of
buying an external reader and locating cds, which isnt going to happen!

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016, Ralph Sanchez <rwsanchez3@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks but no, thats not the issue...i am installing from a live iso image
> booted from usb, went to the installer in the live boot, got all the way
> through the overwrite, partitioning and encryption and then got a message
> telling me to insert such and such debian jessie cd in cdrom
>
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2016, David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk');>> wrote:
>
>> On Wed 04 May 2016 at 20:50:32 (-0400), Ralph Sanchez wrote:
>> > Ok, so i have followed the installation manual to the t so far, and
>> after
>> > overwritong with random data, confirming the partitions, and installing
>> the
>> > system, the installer is asking me insert a debian live cd into my cdrom
>> > that doesnt exist! Whats going on here and what do i do?
>>
>> Would something along the lines of
>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/01/msg01117.html
>> help? This is to get it to use the USB stick where it's
>> trying to use a CDROM (but with the installer rather than
>> a live CD).
>>
>> Apologies if that's not your problem.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> David.
>>
>>

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#167490

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After rereading the last response i got, i see why their issue is similar,
but the solution cant be used here because even if i had wheezy installed
before, im past the point where the hdd gets overwritten with random data.

On Thursday, May 5, 2016, Ralph Sanchez <rwsanchez3@gmail.com> wrote:

> Update: like i said, i am running from the install from within the Live
> boot from usb. I configured network, partitioning, etc and got to
> installing system. Bar is about 95 percent full and says retreiving file 1
> of 2 when it switches to a windows saying ::    /media/cdrom/:Please insert
> the disc labeled: 'Debian GNU/Linux 8 _jessie_-Official Snapshot amd64
> LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20160402-2159' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press
> enter.       Wtf.....i dont have a cd drive, my hdd is now wiped and
> encrypted, and any attempt to say download the net iso or the cd1 kde iso
> and install it on another usb using the cp debain.iso dev/sbX command
> recommended in the manual for burning a iso from within linux fails saying
> i dont have permission for sdX, sdc in this case, although i can save files
> to it in a normal fashion. What gives here? What can i possibly do short of
> buying an external reader and locating cds, which isnt going to happen!
>
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2016, Ralph Sanchez <rwsanchez3@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rwsanchez3@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Thanks but no, thats not the issue...i am installing from a live iso
>> image booted from usb, went to the installer in the live boot, got all the
>> way through the overwrite, partitioning and encryption and then got a
>> message telling me to insert such and such debian jessie cd in cdrom
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 4, 2016, David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed 04 May 2016 at 20:50:32 (-0400), Ralph Sanchez wrote:
>>> > Ok, so i have followed the installation manual to the t so far, and
>>> after
>>> > overwritong with random data, confirming the partitions, and
>>> installing the
>>> > system, the installer is asking me insert a debian live cd into my
>>> cdrom
>>> > that doesnt exist! Whats going on here and what do i do?
>>>
>>> Would something along the lines of
>>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/01/msg01117.html
>>> help? This is to get it to use the USB stick where it's
>>> trying to use a CDROM (but with the installer rather than
>>> a live CD).
>>>
>>> Apologies if that's not your problem.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> David.
>>>
>>>

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#167492

On Thursday 05 May 2016 08:19:58 Ralph Sanchez wrote:
> After rereading the last response i got, i see why their issue is similar,
> but the solution cant be used here because even if i had wheezy installed
> before, im past the point where the hdd gets overwritten with random data.

This is a fat lot of help now, but this is the sort of thing why I don't 
install from the Live CD.

I would try to use a net-install USB (WITH all the firmware) if you have 
access to the internet.  You can install on a pre-prepared HDD. If getting a 
suitable USB is a problem, and you have the time to wait for the snail-mail, 
I would happily send you one.

I did once recently, when I had to abort an installation, get nowhere until I 
had wiped (no, that is not a technical term, partitioned and formatted the 
drive again from and independent source (I used Gparted from a Knoppix Live 
CD).

Lisi
>
> On Thursday, May 5, 2016, Ralph Sanchez <rwsanchez3@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Update: like i said, i am running from the install from within the Live
> > boot from usb. I configured network, partitioning, etc and got to
> > installing system. Bar is about 95 percent full and says retreiving file
> > 1 of 2 when it switches to a windows saying ::    /media/cdrom/:Please
> > insert the disc labeled: 'Debian GNU/Linux 8 _jessie_-Official Snapshot
> > amd64 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20160402-2159' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and
> > press enter.       Wtf.....i dont have a cd drive, my hdd is now wiped
> > and encrypted, and any attempt to say download the net iso or the cd1 kde
> > iso and install it on another usb using the cp debain.iso dev/sbX command
> > recommended in the manual for burning a iso from within linux fails
> > saying i dont have permission for sdX, sdc in this case, although i can
> > save files to it in a normal fashion. What gives here? What can i
> > possibly do short of buying an external reader and locating cds, which
> > isnt going to happen!
> >
> > On Wednesday, May 4, 2016, Ralph Sanchez <rwsanchez3@gmail.com
> >
> > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rwsanchez3@gmail.com');>> wrote:
> >> Thanks but no, thats not the issue...i am installing from a live iso
> >> image booted from usb, went to the installer in the live boot, got all
> >> the way through the overwrite, partitioning and encryption and then got
> >> a message telling me to insert such and such debian jessie cd in cdrom
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, May 4, 2016, David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:
> >>> On Wed 04 May 2016 at 20:50:32 (-0400), Ralph Sanchez wrote:
> >>> > Ok, so i have followed the installation manual to the t so far, and
> >>>
> >>> after
> >>>
> >>> > overwritong with random data, confirming the partitions, and
> >>>
> >>> installing the
> >>>
> >>> > system, the installer is asking me insert a debian live cd into my
> >>>
> >>> cdrom
> >>>
> >>> > that doesnt exist! Whats going on here and what do i do?
> >>>
> >>> Would something along the lines of
> >>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/01/msg01117.html
> >>> help? This is to get it to use the USB stick where it's
> >>> trying to use a CDROM (but with the installer rather than
> >>> a live CD).
> >>>
> >>> Apologies if that's not your problem.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> David.

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#167494

On Thu 05 May 2016 at 03:19:58 -0400, Ralph Sanchez wrote:

> After rereading the last response i got, i see why their issue is similar,
> but the solution cant be used here because even if i had wheezy installed
> before, im past the point where the hdd gets overwritten with random data.

Being asked to insert a disk shouldn't happen. The USB stick is already
mounted and everything needed for the install is there. Would you
confirm this happens before you get to the setting up a network mirror
stage?

I would reboot and try doing the install from the menu.

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#167499

* Ralph Sanchez <rwsanchez3@gmail.com> [2016-05-05 03:17 -0400]:

> Update: like i said, i am running from the install from within the Live
> boot from usb. I configured network, partitioning, etc and got to
> installing system. Bar is about 95 percent full and says retreiving file 1
> of 2 when it switches to a windows saying ::    /media/cdrom/:Please insert
> the disc labeled: 'Debian GNU/Linux 8 _jessie_-Official Snapshot amd64
> LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20160402-2159' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press
> enter.

Can you post the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list ?

Elimar
-- 
  Obviously the human brain works like a computer.
  Since there are no stupid computers humans can't be stupid.
  There are just a few running with Windows or even CE ;-)

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#167503

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Ok. First things first, I have been able to setup a new usb for netinst.
But, for future reference on this issue...

Yes, this happens before setting up mirrors

Also, trying to use the installer from boot menu instead of within live
image gave the same type of error, just much faster.

As far as contents of the sources.list, the deb cdrom line that commonly
needs commented out was not there. Sources.list.d was empty.

My only solution was to get netinst.iso, and then run the # cp debian.iso
/dev/sdX command followed by # sync, which was highly finicky as it did not
want to run correctly or recognize host, but it did eventually work.

Now of course my netinst gui installer is telling me bad archive mirror now
matter which one i chose lmao.

On Thursday, May 5, 2016, Elimar Riesebieter <riesebie@lxtec.de> wrote:

> * Ralph Sanchez <rwsanchez3@gmail.com <javascript:;>> [2016-05-05 03:17
> -0400]:
>
> > Update: like i said, i am running from the install from within the Live
> > boot from usb. I configured network, partitioning, etc and got to
> > installing system. Bar is about 95 percent full and says retreiving file
> 1
> > of 2 when it switches to a windows saying ::    /media/cdrom/:Please
> insert
> > the disc labeled: 'Debian GNU/Linux 8 _jessie_-Official Snapshot amd64
> > LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20160402-2159' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press
> > enter.
>
> Can you post the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list ?
>
> Elimar
> --
>   Obviously the human brain works like a computer.
>   Since there are no stupid computers humans can't be stupid.
>   There are just a few running with Windows or even CE ;-)
>
>

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#167505

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Update. Mirrors are fine, my network needed reconfigured.

On Thursday, May 5, 2016, Ralph Sanchez <rwsanchez3@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok. First things first, I have been able to setup a new usb for netinst.
> But, for future reference on this issue...
>
> Yes, this happens before setting up mirrors
>
> Also, trying to use the installer from boot menu instead of within live
> image gave the same type of error, just much faster.
>
> As far as contents of the sources.list, the deb cdrom line that commonly
> needs commented out was not there. Sources.list.d was empty.
>
> My only solution was to get netinst.iso, and then run the # cp debian.iso
> /dev/sdX command followed by # sync, which was highly finicky as it did not
> want to run correctly or recognize host, but it did eventually work.
>
> Now of course my netinst gui installer is telling me bad archive mirror
> now matter which one i chose lmao.
>
> On Thursday, May 5, 2016, Elimar Riesebieter <riesebie@lxtec.de
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','riesebie@lxtec.de');>> wrote:
>
>> * Ralph Sanchez <rwsanchez3@gmail.com> [2016-05-05 03:17 -0400]:
>>
>> > Update: like i said, i am running from the install from within the Live
>> > boot from usb. I configured network, partitioning, etc and got to
>> > installing system. Bar is about 95 percent full and says retreiving
>> file 1
>> > of 2 when it switches to a windows saying ::    /media/cdrom/:Please
>> insert
>> > the disc labeled: 'Debian GNU/Linux 8 _jessie_-Official Snapshot amd64
>> > LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20160402-2159' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and
>> press
>> > enter.
>>
>> Can you post the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list ?
>>
>> Elimar
>> --
>>   Obviously the human brain works like a computer.
>>   Since there are no stupid computers humans can't be stupid.
>>   There are just a few running with Windows or even CE ;-)
>>
>>

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#167507

On Thu 05 May 2016 at 09:47:20 (-0400), Ralph Sanchez wrote:
> Ok. First things first, I have been able to setup a new usb for netinst.
> But, for future reference on this issue...
> 
> Yes, this happens before setting up mirrors
> 
> Also, trying to use the installer from boot menu instead of within live
> image gave the same type of error, just much faster.
> 
> As far as contents of the sources.list, the deb cdrom line that commonly
> needs commented out was not there. Sources.list.d was empty.
> 
> My only solution was to get netinst.iso, and then run the # cp debian.iso
> /dev/sdX command followed by # sync, which was highly finicky as it did not
> want to run correctly or recognize host, but it did eventually work.

I hadn't realised you had the iso as a file on the stick rather than
as the stick. Presumably you could have loop-mounted the iso rather
than having to copy it to drive sdX.

Typically the installer tries in turn to mount any partitions it can
find onto /media/cdrom. You can see this process going on in the logs
scrolling by on VC4. Thus it would find sdX by itself, whereas it
would need telling if the partition was squirrelled away in a file.

> On Thursday, May 5, 2016, Elimar Riesebieter <riesebie@lxtec.de> wrote:
> 
> > * Ralph Sanchez <rwsanchez3@gmail.com <javascript:;>> [2016-05-05 03:17
> > -0400]:
> >
> > > Update: like i said, i am running from the install from within the Live
> > > boot from usb. I configured network, partitioning, etc and got to
> > > installing system. Bar is about 95 percent full and says retreiving file
> > 1
> > > of 2 when it switches to a windows saying ::    /media/cdrom/:Please
> > insert
> > > the disc labeled: 'Debian GNU/Linux 8 _jessie_-Official Snapshot amd64
> > > LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20160402-2159' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press
> > > enter.

Cheers,
David.

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#167511

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I did have the live iso as a bootable disk, not just on it, sorry for my
wording.. i actually used the live boot to image netinst to a seperate usb,
and went from there. Thanks :) hopefully if anyone rlse has this issue
theyll see this.

On Thursday, May 5, 2016, David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu 05 May 2016 at 09:47:20 (-0400), Ralph Sanchez wrote:
> > Ok. First things first, I have been able to setup a new usb for netinst.
> > But, for future reference on this issue...
> >
> > Yes, this happens before setting up mirrors
> >
> > Also, trying to use the installer from boot menu instead of within live
> > image gave the same type of error, just much faster.
> >
> > As far as contents of the sources.list, the deb cdrom line that commonly
> > needs commented out was not there. Sources.list.d was empty.
> >
> > My only solution was to get netinst.iso, and then run the # cp debian.iso
> > /dev/sdX command followed by # sync, which was highly finicky as it did
> not
> > want to run correctly or recognize host, but it did eventually work.
>
> I hadn't realised you had the iso as a file on the stick rather than
> as the stick. Presumably you could have loop-mounted the iso rather
> than having to copy it to drive sdX.
>
> Typically the installer tries in turn to mount any partitions it can
> find onto /media/cdrom. You can see this process going on in the logs
> scrolling by on VC4. Thus it would find sdX by itself, whereas it
> would need telling if the partition was squirrelled away in a file.
>
> > On Thursday, May 5, 2016, Elimar Riesebieter <riesebie@lxtec.de
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > > * Ralph Sanchez <rwsanchez3@gmail.com <javascript:;> <javascript:;>>
> [2016-05-05 03:17
> > > -0400]:
> > >
> > > > Update: like i said, i am running from the install from within the
> Live
> > > > boot from usb. I configured network, partitioning, etc and got to
> > > > installing system. Bar is about 95 percent full and says retreiving
> file
> > > 1
> > > > of 2 when it switches to a windows saying ::    /media/cdrom/:Please
> > > insert
> > > > the disc labeled: 'Debian GNU/Linux 8 _jessie_-Official Snapshot
> amd64
> > > > LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20160402-2159' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and
> press
> > > > enter.
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
>

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