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  Package maintainers, I feel like such an outsider Wayne Booth <wbooth.clearscene@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 16:20 +0200
    Re: Package maintainers, I feel like such an outsider Charlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com> - 2016-04-25 17:50 +0200
    Re: Package maintainers, I feel like such an outsider "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2016-04-25 18:00 +0200
      Re: Package maintainers, I feel like such an outsider "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2016-04-25 18:10 +0200
    Re: Package maintainers, I feel like such an outsider <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-04-25 18:10 +0200
    Re: Package maintainers, I feel like such an outsider deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 21:20 +0200

#167080 — Package maintainers, I feel like such an outsider

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Hi all,

Sorry for this little lost sheep mail, but even after pouring over the
documentation many times, I really cant find a solution to my issue.

I'm a developer of some 3rd party applications, one of which is getting
some traction with a wider audience. For some time I've looked at
documentation and articles about how to get a package into the Debian
repositories. Unfortunately, with no luck - since it seems to me that I
need to have some of relationships with people at Debian, that have access.
(?)

Recently, I found that one of the libraries I use has just dropped off the
Debian repositories (
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=751916). This kills the
USP for my application. I can provide a .deb to my users for my app, but
cannot for the requisite libraries.

So, my question is this. Is there anything I can do, as someone with no
special merit or connections at Debian, but with time, technical skill and
the motivation to see this happen, to get the "pHash" re-included into the
repositories?

And, second (to a lesser degree for now) start the ball rolling in getting
my application into the repositories?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards.

Wayne Booth.

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#167082

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On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 14:02:26 +0000
Wayne Booth <wbooth.clearscene@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>Sorry for this little lost sheep mail, but even after pouring over the
>documentation many times, I really cant find a solution to my issue.
>
>I'm a developer of some 3rd party applications, one of which is getting
>some traction with a wider audience. For some time I've looked at
>documentation and articles about how to get a package into the Debian
>repositories. Unfortunately, with no luck - since it seems to me that I
>need to have some of relationships with people at Debian, that have access.
>(?)
>
>Recently, I found that one of the libraries I use has just dropped off the
>Debian repositories (
>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=751916). This kills the
>USP for my application. I can provide a .deb to my users for my app, but
>cannot for the requisite libraries.
>
>So, my question is this. Is there anything I can do, as someone with no
>special merit or connections at Debian, but with time, technical skill and
>the motivation to see this happen, to get the "pHash" re-included into the
>repositories?
>
>And, second (to a lesser degree for now) start the ball rolling in getting
>my application into the repositories?
>
>Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Regards.
>
>Wayne Booth.


You might have more luck with the Debian Developers instead of the
users. Most of us here have nothing to do with getting a new package
accepted. Sometimes the devs do look in on us, though. Try one of the
developer lists, if possible:

https://lists.debian.org/devel.html




- -- 
Charlie Kravetz
Linux Registered User Number 425914
[http://linuxcounter.net/user/425914.html]
Never let anyone steal your DREAM.   [http://keepingdreams.com]
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#167083

Hi,

> it seems to me that I need to have some
> of relationships with people at Debian, that have access. (?)

People without Debian rank need a sponsor who is Debian Developer.
I was already in contact with DDs when i began my carreer as Uploader.
But actually i found my sponsor here, on debian-user list.

For the general case there is the mailing list
  debian-mentors@debian.org
with its RFS bug posting protocol. See for an introduction
  http://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers

One will expect that you install a Debian Sid ("unstable") system
in VM or on real iron and learn from
  https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/index.en.html
  https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer
  https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/


> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=751916
> to get the "pHash" re-included into the repositories?

The first step would be to retrieve the old Debian packaging
equipment and to get it to work with producing .deb packages
on your Debian Sid system.
E.g. from
  https://sources.debian.net/src/libphash/0.9.4-1.2/debian/
or from the links like
  https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/libp/libphash/control-0.9.4-1.2
in the "versioned links" section of
  https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libphash

You will also have to counter the first two reasons from the removal
bug report. (I.e. provide a new contemporary upstream version and your
commitment to care for bugs and other external needs.)


> And, second (to a lesser degree for now) start the ball rolling in getting
> my application into the repositories?

You will learn a lot on the way to get the first goal fulfilled.
Hopefully this will enable you to found a new package.
(I myself took over my existing upstream packages last year from its
 former maintainer. He handed mailing list and SVN repository to me.
 So i never had to start a package from scratch.)


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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#167085

Hi,

  debian-mentors@lists.debian.org

not

  debian-mentors@debian.org


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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#167084

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On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 02:02:26PM +0000, Wayne Booth wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Sorry for this little lost sheep mail, but even after pouring over the
> documentation many times, I really cant find a solution to my issue.

The Debian Mentors mailing list [1] might be what you're looking for.
Be sure to have a look at the corresponding FAQ [2]. Many links there,
including an IRC channel for quick questions.

HTH

[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/
[2] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMentorsFaq

- -- tomás
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#167094

Wayne Booth wrote:

> And, second (to a lesser degree for now) start the ball rolling in getting
> my application into the repositories?
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Interim you could provide a debian style repo for those 2 or more packages.
There are many 2rd party repos out there. Just take the easy path until the
steep one is complete.

regards

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