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RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In

Started byPatrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com>
First post2016-04-25 04:10 +0200
Last post2016-04-26 03:00 +0200
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  RECOMMEND:  Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 04:10 +0200
    Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In Paul Duncan <paul.d@soi-team.org> - 2016-04-25 04:30 +0200
      Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In Joel Wirāmu Pauling <joel@aenertia.net> - 2016-04-25 06:40 +0200
        Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In Joel Wirāmu Pauling <joel@aenertia.net> - 2016-04-26 02:30 +0200
          Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In shawn wilson <ag4ve.us@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 02:50 +0200
        Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 02:30 +0200
    Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In Lars Noodén <lars.nooden@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 06:50 +0200
      Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-04-25 10:00 +0200
      Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 02:50 +0200
        Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In Lars Noodén <lars.nooden@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 08:30 +0200
          Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 20:30 +0200
        Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In Petter Adsen <petter@synth.no> - 2016-04-26 09:40 +0200
          Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 20:40 +0200
      Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> - 2016-04-27 19:00 +0200
        Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 20:40 +0200
    Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In "heqamilus@runbox.com" <heqamilus@runbox.com> - 2016-04-25 10:10 +0200
      Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 03:00 +0200

#167059 — RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In

FromPatrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-25 04:10 +0200
SubjectRECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In
Message-ID<rrE8i-6m8-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
Hi! all,

Toying with the idea of setting up a personal, that is, non-business, VPN for a device or two for those rare times I use public wifi. For improved security, mind you.  Want to keep it simple, but it must work outside the U.S. (I foresee a change coming.)  So, figured a new home router with the server built-in would be better than a for-charge (or free) VPN service.  (After 8 years of continuous use, I'm getting nervous about my old router anyway, and want to replace it.)

What routers would you all recommend?  And why?

Thanks.

B

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#167060 — Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In

FromPaul Duncan <paul.d@soi-team.org>
Date2016-04-25 04:30 +0200
SubjectRe: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In
Message-ID<rrErD-6Ag-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#167059

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I have a Draytek Vigor 2820vn. Have had it for a few years now. Seems to be
quite reliable. Has three types of WAN connectivity built-in - ADSL2+,
Ethernet (for cable modems), and USB for mobile broadband dongles. And, as
you requested, it does have a built-in VPN service and very configurable
firewall.

Now, this particular unit will never support IPV6, and I think they may
have stopped making it now. If I was in the market for a router today, I
would go for the Vigor 2830 series. It is IPV6 ready, and all four of its
Ethernet ports are gigabit ports (only one is on the 2820).

Anyway, I'm sure you will get *lots* of opinions about favourite hardware!

Cheers,

Paul.

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 3:01 AM, Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi! all,
>
> Toying with the idea of setting up a personal, that is, non-business, VPN
> for a device or two for those rare times I use public wifi. For improved
> security, mind you.  Want to keep it simple, but it must work outside the
> U.S. (I foresee a change coming.)  So, figured a new home router with the
> server built-in would be better than a for-charge (or free) VPN service.
> (After 8 years of continuous use, I'm getting nervous about my old router
> anyway, and want to replace it.)
>
> What routers would you all recommend?  And why?
>
> Thanks.
>
> B
>
>


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#167061 — Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In

FromJoel Wirāmu Pauling <joel@aenertia.net>
Date2016-04-25 06:40 +0200
SubjectRe: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In
Message-ID<rrGtr-8c7-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
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I don't suggestion running VPN (at least any with decent encryption ) on
the Wifi /AP. It will end up being a bottle kneck. i.E my Dual core MIP's
680hz Wireless AC running openwrt can barely push 12mbit through an AES
tunnel.

Keep the VPN endpoints on the more well endowed endpoints. If you need it
as a backup purely for getting into the router, then SSH is fine.

On 25 April 2016 at 14:22, Paul Duncan <paul.d@soi-team.org> wrote:

> I have a Draytek Vigor 2820vn. Have had it for a few years now. Seems to
> be quite reliable. Has three types of WAN connectivity built-in - ADSL2+,
> Ethernet (for cable modems), and USB for mobile broadband dongles. And, as
> you requested, it does have a built-in VPN service and very configurable
> firewall.
>
> Now, this particular unit will never support IPV6, and I think they may
> have stopped making it now. If I was in the market for a router today, I
> would go for the Vigor 2830 series. It is IPV6 ready, and all four of its
> Ethernet ports are gigabit ports (only one is on the 2820).
>
> Anyway, I'm sure you will get *lots* of opinions about favourite hardware!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul.
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 3:01 AM, Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi! all,
>>
>> Toying with the idea of setting up a personal, that is, non-business, VPN
>> for a device or two for those rare times I use public wifi. For improved
>> security, mind you.  Want to keep it simple, but it must work outside the
>> U.S. (I foresee a change coming.)  So, figured a new home router with the
>> server built-in would be better than a for-charge (or free) VPN service.
>> (After 8 years of continuous use, I'm getting nervous about my old router
>> anyway, and want to replace it.)
>>
>> What routers would you all recommend?  And why?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> B
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
>
> *Paul Duncan*
>
> Marine Technician, RV Falkor
>
> SCHMIDT OCEAN INSTITUTE
>
> mobile +1 650 387 4151
>
> VOIP +1 954 672 4943
>
> www.schmidtocean.org
>
> Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Google+
>
> *This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and
> may contain confidential and privileged*
>
> *information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is
> prohibited. If you have received it in*
>
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> any attachments. Thank you.*
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#167100 — Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In

FromJoel Wirāmu Pauling <joel@aenertia.net>
Date2016-04-26 02:30 +0200
SubjectRe: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In
Message-ID<rrZ33-6Ew-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#167061

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My advise stands. Use a VPN client on the end devices.

On 26 April 2016 at 12:27, Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 25 Apr 2016, Joel Wirāmu Pauling wrote:
>
> > I don't suggestion running VPN (at least any with decent encryption )
> > on the Wifi /AP. It will end up being a bottle kneck. i.E my Dual
> > core MIP's 680hz Wireless AC running openwrt can barely push 12mbit
> > through an AES tunnel.
> >
> > Keep the VPN endpoints on the more well endowed endpoints. If you
> > need it as a backup purely for getting into the router, then SSH is
> > fine.
>
> I'll be the only user on the VPN.  It's mainly for when I use public
> wifi on my phone or laptop, for security.  For Web and email mostly.
> I might use it to access my home machine, too, but that would be rarely.
> So, I'm not going to be moving large amounts of data over the
> connection.
>
> Thanks.
>
> B
>
> > On 25 April 2016 at 14:22, Paul Duncan <paul.d@soi-team.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I have a Draytek Vigor 2820vn. Have had it for a few years now.
> > > Seems to be quite reliable. Has three types of WAN connectivity
> > > built-in - ADSL2+, Ethernet (for cable modems), and USB for mobile
> > > broadband dongles. And, as you requested, it does have a built-in
> > > VPN service and very configurable firewall.
> > >
> > > Now, this particular unit will never support IPV6, and I think they
> > > may have stopped making it now. If I was in the market for a router
> > > today, I would go for the Vigor 2830 series. It is IPV6 ready, and
> > > all four of its Ethernet ports are gigabit ports (only one is on
> > > the 2820).
> > >
> > > Anyway, I'm sure you will get *lots* of opinions about favourite
> > > hardware!
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Paul.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 3:01 AM, Patrick Bartek
> > > <nemommxiv@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi! all,
> > >>
> > >> Toying with the idea of setting up a personal, that is,
> > >> non-business, VPN for a device or two for those rare times I use
> > >> public wifi. For improved security, mind you.  Want to keep it
> > >> simple, but it must work outside the U.S. (I foresee a change
> > >> coming.)  So, figured a new home router with the server built-in
> > >> would be better than a for-charge (or free) VPN service. (After 8
> > >> years of continuous use, I'm getting nervous about my old router
> > >> anyway, and want to replace it.)
> > >>
> > >> What routers would you all recommend?  And why?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks.
> > >>
> > >> B
>
>

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#167103 — Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In

Fromshawn wilson <ag4ve.us@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-26 02:50 +0200
SubjectRe: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In
Message-ID<rrZmq-6LW-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#167100

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Seconded (unless you can't)
On Apr 25, 2016 8:29 PM, "Joel Wirāmu Pauling" <joel@aenertia.net> wrote:

> My advise stands. Use a VPN client on the end devices.
>
> On 26 April 2016 at 12:27, Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 25 Apr 2016, Joel Wirāmu Pauling wrote:
>>
>> > I don't suggestion running VPN (at least any with decent encryption )
>> > on the Wifi /AP. It will end up being a bottle kneck. i.E my Dual
>> > core MIP's 680hz Wireless AC running openwrt can barely push 12mbit
>> > through an AES tunnel.
>> >
>> > Keep the VPN endpoints on the more well endowed endpoints. If you
>> > need it as a backup purely for getting into the router, then SSH is
>> > fine.
>>
>> I'll be the only user on the VPN.  It's mainly for when I use public
>> wifi on my phone or laptop, for security.  For Web and email mostly.
>> I might use it to access my home machine, too, but that would be rarely.
>> So, I'm not going to be moving large amounts of data over the
>> connection.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> B
>>
>> > On 25 April 2016 at 14:22, Paul Duncan <paul.d@soi-team.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I have a Draytek Vigor 2820vn. Have had it for a few years now.
>> > > Seems to be quite reliable. Has three types of WAN connectivity
>> > > built-in - ADSL2+, Ethernet (for cable modems), and USB for mobile
>> > > broadband dongles. And, as you requested, it does have a built-in
>> > > VPN service and very configurable firewall.
>> > >
>> > > Now, this particular unit will never support IPV6, and I think they
>> > > may have stopped making it now. If I was in the market for a router
>> > > today, I would go for the Vigor 2830 series. It is IPV6 ready, and
>> > > all four of its Ethernet ports are gigabit ports (only one is on
>> > > the 2820).
>> > >
>> > > Anyway, I'm sure you will get *lots* of opinions about favourite
>> > > hardware!
>> > >
>> > > Cheers,
>> > >
>> > > Paul.
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 3:01 AM, Patrick Bartek
>> > > <nemommxiv@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Hi! all,
>> > >>
>> > >> Toying with the idea of setting up a personal, that is,
>> > >> non-business, VPN for a device or two for those rare times I use
>> > >> public wifi. For improved security, mind you.  Want to keep it
>> > >> simple, but it must work outside the U.S. (I foresee a change
>> > >> coming.)  So, figured a new home router with the server built-in
>> > >> would be better than a for-charge (or free) VPN service. (After 8
>> > >> years of continuous use, I'm getting nervous about my old router
>> > >> anyway, and want to replace it.)
>> > >>
>> > >> What routers would you all recommend?  And why?
>> > >>
>> > >> Thanks.
>> > >>
>> > >> B
>>
>>
>

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#167101 — Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In

FromPatrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-26 02:30 +0200
SubjectRe: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In
Message-ID<rrZ33-6Ew-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#167061
On Mon, 25 Apr 2016, Joel Wirāmu Pauling wrote:

> I don't suggestion running VPN (at least any with decent encryption )
> on the Wifi /AP. It will end up being a bottle kneck. i.E my Dual
> core MIP's 680hz Wireless AC running openwrt can barely push 12mbit
> through an AES tunnel.
> 
> Keep the VPN endpoints on the more well endowed endpoints. If you
> need it as a backup purely for getting into the router, then SSH is
> fine.

I'll be the only user on the VPN.  It's mainly for when I use public
wifi on my phone or laptop, for security.  For Web and email mostly.
I might use it to access my home machine, too, but that would be rarely.
So, I'm not going to be moving large amounts of data over the
connection.

Thanks.

B  

> On 25 April 2016 at 14:22, Paul Duncan <paul.d@soi-team.org> wrote:
> 
> > I have a Draytek Vigor 2820vn. Have had it for a few years now.
> > Seems to be quite reliable. Has three types of WAN connectivity
> > built-in - ADSL2+, Ethernet (for cable modems), and USB for mobile
> > broadband dongles. And, as you requested, it does have a built-in
> > VPN service and very configurable firewall.
> >
> > Now, this particular unit will never support IPV6, and I think they
> > may have stopped making it now. If I was in the market for a router
> > today, I would go for the Vigor 2830 series. It is IPV6 ready, and
> > all four of its Ethernet ports are gigabit ports (only one is on
> > the 2820).
> >
> > Anyway, I'm sure you will get *lots* of opinions about favourite
> > hardware!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Paul.
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 3:01 AM, Patrick Bartek
> > <nemommxiv@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi! all,
> >>
> >> Toying with the idea of setting up a personal, that is,
> >> non-business, VPN for a device or two for those rare times I use
> >> public wifi. For improved security, mind you.  Want to keep it
> >> simple, but it must work outside the U.S. (I foresee a change
> >> coming.)  So, figured a new home router with the server built-in
> >> would be better than a for-charge (or free) VPN service. (After 8
> >> years of continuous use, I'm getting nervous about my old router
> >> anyway, and want to replace it.)
> >>
> >> What routers would you all recommend?  And why?
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> B

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#167062 — Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In

FromLars Noodén <lars.nooden@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-25 06:50 +0200
SubjectRe: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In
Message-ID<rrGD7-8fJ-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#167059
On 04/25/2016 05:01 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> Hi! all,
> 
> Toying with the idea of setting up a personal, that is, non-business,
> VPN for a device or two for those rare times I use public wifi. For
> improved security, mind you.  Want to keep it simple, but it must
> work outside the U.S. (I foresee a change coming.)  So, figured a new
> home router with the server built-in would be better than a
> for-charge (or free) VPN service.  (After 8 years of continuous use,
> I'm getting nervous about my old router anyway, and want to replace
> it.)
> 
> What routers would you all recommend?  And why?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> B
> 

I'd look at the list of routers that support OpenWRT or DD-WRT and
choose from that subset, if you want an off-the-shelf product.

However, you can build a router with more normal hardware with full
Debian (or Devuan) and add what you like.  I have an old Soekris myself,
though others might be more in fashion these days.

Keep in mind that SSH can do a SOCKS proxy itself and thus you might not
even want to go to the trouble of setting up OpenVPN on top of whatever
you have.

Regards,
Lars

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#167066 — Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2016-04-25 10:00 +0200
SubjectRe: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In
Message-ID<rrJB0-20d-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#167062
On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 07:48:50 +0300
Lars Noodén <lars.nooden@gmail.com> wrote:


> 
> Keep in mind that SSH can do a SOCKS proxy itself and thus you might
> not even want to go to the trouble of setting up OpenVPN on top of
> whatever you have.
> 

Yes, I use ssh if I only want a couple of TCP protocols into my home
network, and OpenVPN for web browsing outside. I think it is the latter
which motivates the OP.

-- 
Joe

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#167102 — Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In

FromPatrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-26 02:50 +0200
SubjectRe: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In
Message-ID<rrZmp-6LW-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#167062
On Mon, 25 Apr 2016, Lars Noodén wrote:

> On 04/25/2016 05:01 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > Hi! all,
> > 
> > Toying with the idea of setting up a personal, that is,
> > non-business, VPN for a device or two for those rare times I use
> > public wifi. For improved security, mind you.  Want to keep it
> > simple, but it must work outside the U.S. (I foresee a change
> > coming.)  So, figured a new home router with the server built-in
> > would be better than a for-charge (or free) VPN service.  (After 8
> > years of continuous use, I'm getting nervous about my old router
> > anyway, and want to replace it.)
> > 
> > What routers would you all recommend?  And why?
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > B
> > 
> 
> I'd look at the list of routers that support OpenWRT or DD-WRT and
> choose from that subset, if you want an off-the-shelf product.

I have been considering that.  Just started looking yesterday.  Lots of
routers out there.  That's why I asked for recommendations.  To narrow
the field.

> However, you can build a router with more normal hardware with full
> Debian (or Devuan) and add what you like.  I have an old Soekris
> myself, though others might be more in fashion these days.

Did check if I could flash my current router with DD-WRT, but, no, it's
not supported.  Too old.  So that option is mute.  Going to get a
new router.  It's time anyway.  The old one is 8 years old!

> Keep in mind that SSH can do a SOCKS proxy itself and thus you might
> not even want to go to the trouble of setting up OpenVPN on top of
> whatever you have.

I just want something simple for security when I use public wifi on my
phone or laptop for personal web and email.  It doesn't have to be
NSA-proof. ;-)  But I'll look into that.

Thanks for your input.

B

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#167112 — Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In

FromLars Noodén <lars.nooden@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-26 08:30 +0200
SubjectRe: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In
Message-ID<rs4Fr-2Nr-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#167102
On 04/26/2016 03:46 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Apr 2016, Lars Noodén wrote:> 
>> On 04/25/2016 05:01 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>> Keep in mind that SSH can do a SOCKS proxy itself and thus you might
>> not even want to go to the trouble of setting up OpenVPN on top of
>> whatever you have.
> 
> I just want something simple for security when I use public wifi on my
> phone or laptop for personal web and email.  It doesn't have to be
> NSA-proof. ;-)  But I'll look into that.

It's easy and simple, just use the SSH client the -D option and choose a
port and log into your router.  If you keep your SSH key in an agent,
which many desktop environments have available for your, then you can
just re-connect automatically.

One addendum, whether you use VPN or SOCKS proxy, is that if you have a
dynamic IP address you'll probably want to set up an account at a
dynamic DNS service.  That way if (when) your IP address changes while
you are away you wont have to cause suspicion by scanning your ISP's
whole network for your proxy.  ddclient, for example, is in the
repository.

Regards,
Lars

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#167122 — Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In

FromPatrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-26 20:30 +0200
SubjectRe: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In
Message-ID<rsfUe-3TD-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#167112
On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Lars Noodén wrote:

> On 04/26/2016 03:46 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > On Mon, 25 Apr 2016, Lars Noodén wrote:> 
> >> On 04/25/2016 05:01 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >> Keep in mind that SSH can do a SOCKS proxy itself and thus you
> >> might not even want to go to the trouble of setting up OpenVPN on
> >> top of whatever you have.
> > 
> > I just want something simple for security when I use public wifi on
> > my phone or laptop for personal web and email.  It doesn't have to
> > be NSA-proof. ;-)  But I'll look into that.
> 
> It's easy and simple, just use the SSH client the -D option and
> choose a port and log into your router.  If you keep your SSH key in
> an agent, which many desktop environments have available for your,
> then you can just re-connect automatically.

I'm looking into this.

> One addendum, whether you use VPN or SOCKS proxy, is that if you have
> a dynamic IP address you'll probably want to set up an account at a
> dynamic DNS service.  That way if (when) your IP address changes while
> you are away you wont have to cause suspicion by scanning your ISP's
> whole network for your proxy.  ddclient, for example, is in the
> repository.

Yes, I'm aware I'll need a ddns service one way or the other.
Considering no-ip.com.  Their free service got good reviews, too.

B

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#167113 — Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In

FromPetter Adsen <petter@synth.no>
Date2016-04-26 09:40 +0200
SubjectRe: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In
Message-ID<rs5Lc-3z9-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#167102
On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 17:46:31 -0700
Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 25 Apr 2016, Lars Noodén wrote:
> 
> > On 04/25/2016 05:01 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:  
> > > Hi! all,
> > > 
> > > Toying with the idea of setting up a personal, that is,
> > > non-business, VPN for a device or two for those rare times I use
> > > public wifi. For improved security, mind you.  Want to keep it
> > > simple, but it must work outside the U.S. (I foresee a change
> > > coming.)  So, figured a new home router with the server built-in
> > > would be better than a for-charge (or free) VPN service.  (After 8
> > > years of continuous use, I'm getting nervous about my old router
> > > anyway, and want to replace it.)
> > > 
> > > What routers would you all recommend?  And why?
> > > 
> > > Thanks.
> > > 
> > > B
> > >   
> > 
> > I'd look at the list of routers that support OpenWRT or DD-WRT and
> > choose from that subset, if you want an off-the-shelf product.  
> 
> I have been considering that.  Just started looking yesterday.  Lots
> of routers out there.  That's why I asked for recommendations.  To
> narrow the field.

I bought a TP-Link Archer C5 a while ago, the main reason being that
OpenWRT is well supported on it. I've been happy with it, although I've
never used it as a VPN endpoint.

There are plenty of people with Archers on the OpenWRT forums if you
need help. If you take a look at those forums there are quite often
threads on recommendations of routers for OpenWRT with plenty of useful
information.

Petter

-- 
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"Are you sure?"
"I'm positive."

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#167124 — Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In

FromPatrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-26 20:40 +0200
SubjectRe: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In
Message-ID<rsg3W-3Yf-61@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#167113
On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Petter Adsen wrote:

> On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 17:46:31 -0700
> Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 25 Apr 2016, Lars Noodén wrote:
> > 
> > > On 04/25/2016 05:01 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:  
> > > > Hi! all,
> > > > 
> > > > Toying with the idea of setting up a personal, that is,
> > > > non-business, VPN for a device or two for those rare times I use
> > > > public wifi. For improved security, mind you.  Want to keep it
> > > > simple, but it must work outside the U.S. (I foresee a change
> > > > coming.)  So, figured a new home router with the server built-in
> > > > would be better than a for-charge (or free) VPN service.
> > > > (After 8 years of continuous use, I'm getting nervous about my
> > > > old router anyway, and want to replace it.)
> > > > 
> > > > What routers would you all recommend?  And why?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks.
> > > > 
> > > > B
> > > >   
> > > 
> > > I'd look at the list of routers that support OpenWRT or DD-WRT and
> > > choose from that subset, if you want an off-the-shelf product.  
> > 
> > I have been considering that.  Just started looking yesterday.  Lots
> > of routers out there.  That's why I asked for recommendations.  To
> > narrow the field.
> 
> I bought a TP-Link Archer C5 a while ago, the main reason being that
> OpenWRT is well supported on it. I've been happy with it, although
> I've never used it as a VPN endpoint.

Thanks for the router recommendation.

Consider Openwrt more suited to the pros -- more features, more
configurable, etc.. DD-WRT might be better for me as it's mostly
pre-configured to make set up easier for a lowly tyro.  At least, that's
what I've been reading.

B

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#167155 — Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In

FromDon Armstrong <don@debian.org>
Date2016-04-27 19:00 +0200
SubjectRe: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In
Message-ID<rsAYG-4mv-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#167062
On Mon, 25 Apr 2016, Lars Noodén wrote:
> I'd look at the list of routers that support OpenWRT or DD-WRT and
> choose from that subset, if you want an off-the-shelf product.

This is actually what I've set up multiple times; OpenWRT has openvpn
packages available, and it's pretty easy to configure if you know how to
use openvpn.

-- 
Don Armstrong                      https://www.donarmstrong.com

My spelling ability, or rather the lack thereof, is one of the wonders
of the modern world.

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#167159 — Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In

FromPatrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-27 20:40 +0200
SubjectRe: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In
Message-ID<rsCxu-5Ye-69@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#167155
On Wed, 27 Apr 2016, Don Armstrong wrote:

> On Mon, 25 Apr 2016, Lars Noodén wrote:
> > I'd look at the list of routers that support OpenWRT or DD-WRT and
> > choose from that subset, if you want an off-the-shelf product.
> 
> This is actually what I've set up multiple times; OpenWRT has openvpn
> packages available, and it's pretty easy to configure if you know how
> to use openvpn.

I never found any routers pre-installed with OpenWRT. And I was not
about to take the chance of bricking a brand new router flashing new
firmware. (My old router was unsupported for either Open or DD.)
However, I did find ones with dd-wrt that had OpenVPN installed
already.  Ordered a Buffalo WHR-300HP2D today. Seems perfect for my
modest, non-poweruser home needs.  We'll see.

B

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#167067 — Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In

From"heqamilus@runbox.com" <heqamilus@runbox.com>
Date2016-04-25 10:10 +0200
SubjectRe: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In
Message-ID<rrJKH-2lq-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#167059

On 04/25/2016 04:01 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> What routers would you all recommend?  And why?
> 

I reccommend ALIX APU1D4 from PC Engines
http://www.pcengines.ch/apu1d4.htm

used the old version for years.

WHY?

you can choose you own OS. Debian? ipfire? pfsense? openwrt? whatever?

you can use openvpn without problem, new version has avery fast cpu to
encrypt/decrypt at full speed


very durable, flexible


bios opensource

very low powerconsumption


I suggest alix or a desktop pc with at least 2 NIC and 1W-NIC, but alix
is the best choice


Hope it help

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#167104 — Re: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In

FromPatrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-26 03:00 +0200
SubjectRe: RECOMMEND: Wireless Home Router with VPN Built-In
Message-ID<rrZw6-6PQ-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#167067
On Mon, 25 Apr 2016, heqamilus@runbox.com wrote:

> 
> 
> On 04/25/2016 04:01 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > What routers would you all recommend?  And why?
> > 
> 
> I reccommend ALIX APU1D4 from PC Engines
> http://www.pcengines.ch/apu1d4.htm
> 
> [snip]

Never heard of it.  But I'm finding in my searches, there are a lot of
routers I've never heard of. ;-)

Thanks.  I'll take a look.

B

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