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  Trouble getting posted Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2016-04-09 18:20 +0200
    Re: Trouble getting posted Patrick Wiseman <pwiseman@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 18:20 +0200
      Re: Trouble getting posted Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-04-09 19:00 +0200
      Re: Trouble getting posted Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 20:20 +0200
      Re: Trouble getting posted Andrew McGlashan <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au> - 2016-04-10 04:50 +0200
        Re: Trouble getting posted Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 12:00 +0200
    Re: Trouble getting posted David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-04-09 21:10 +0200
      Re: Trouble getting posted Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-04-09 21:30 +0200
    Re: Trouble getting posted Andrew McGlashan <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au> - 2016-04-10 04:40 +0200
    Re: Trouble getting posted Stephen Allen <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 18:40 +0200

#166559 — Trouble getting posted

I have tried to post a couple of things in the last few days with no 
results. My posts never show up. So this is another test.

Gary R

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#166560

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On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net>
wrote:

> I have tried to post a couple of things in the last few days with no
> results. My posts never show up. So this is another test.
>
> Is it possible that your email client is not showing your post in your
inbox until it gets a reply? Gmail does that (annoyingly).

Patrick

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#166563

On Saturday 09 April 2016 12:14:45 Patrick Wiseman wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Gary Roach
> <gary719_list1@verizon.net>
>
> wrote:
> > I have tried to post a couple of things in the last few days with no
> > results. My posts never show up. So this is another test.
> >
> > Is it possible that your email client is not showing your post in
> > your
>
> inbox until it gets a reply? Gmail does that (annoyingly).
>
> Patrick

He is using icedove, the t-bird clone, posting from his own machine to 
(apparently) an aol account. 

Thats a google trademark and the reason I don't use gmail, which was my 
first thought, but there is no trace of it having gone thru a google 
server to get to the list.  But you may want to look at the headers 
again as there must be at least 50 lines of headers on one of Gary's 
msgs.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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#166567

On 4/9/16, Patrick Wiseman <pwiseman@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I have tried to post a couple of things in the last few days with no
>> results. My posts never show up. So this is another test.
>>
>> Is it possible that your email client is not showing your post in your
> inbox until it gets a reply? Gmail does that (annoyingly).


I just ran a quick search through my own inbox. He's showing up in 2
threads today then nothing previous going backwards until March 16th,
I think it was......

Cindy :)

-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with plastic sporks *

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#166572

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On 10/04/2016 2:14 AM, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net
> <mailto:gary719_list1@verizon.net>> wrote:
> 
>     I have tried to post a couple of things in the last few days with no
>     results. My posts never show up. So this is another test.
> 
> Is it possible that your email client is not showing your post in your
> inbox until it gets a reply? Gmail does that (annoyingly).

That's just threading.

What you see when you get a reply is the "conversation" or linked list
of emails that refer backwards to earlier ones.

I think gmail just has a bucket of emails, then tags on each one to show
which folder(s) the email is shown in.

Cheers
A.

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#166581

On Sunday 10 April 2016 03:40:26 Andrew McGlashan wrote:
> On 10/04/2016 2:14 AM, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net
> > <mailto:gary719_list1@verizon.net>> wrote:
> >
> >     I have tried to post a couple of things in the last few days with no
> >     results. My posts never show up. So this is another test.
> >
> > Is it possible that your email client is not showing your post in your
> > inbox until it gets a reply? Gmail does that (annoyingly).
>
> That's just threading.
>
> What you see when you get a reply is the "conversation" or linked list
> of emails that refer backwards to earlier ones.
>
> I think gmail just has a bucket of emails, then tags on each one to show
> which folder(s) the email is shown in.

No.  That is  not correct.  At least, it is correct as far as it goes, but it 
completely misses the point.  If one uses Gmail's POP3 facility, it does not 
allow you download copies of emails you sent - to mailing lists etc. - in the 
list, in the thread to which they belong.  You will see that although I use 
Gmail's POP3 facility, I do not use the Gmail SMTP for mailing list emails 
precisely because of this.  I use Zen's SMTP server.  I like getting my 
emails in the list in the proper place in the thread.

Gmail's "conversations" are not threading, and break threads for threading 
email clients.

Lisi

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#166568

On Sat 09 Apr 2016 at 09:04:07 (-0700), Gary Roach wrote:
> I have tried to post a couple of things in the last few days with no
> results. My posts never show up. So this is another test.

I don't know where you're looking. Your post about attachments
arrived in my mailbox and is also on the web at
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/04/msg00381.html
At least four people replied so I'm surprised you
haven't seen any of those.

There's an attachment on the posting at
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/02/msg00852.html
but I don't know if there's a size limit.

Cheers,
David.

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#166569

On 4/9/2016 2:01 PM, David Wright wrote:
> On Sat 09 Apr 2016 at 09:04:07 (-0700), Gary Roach wrote:
>> I have tried to post a couple of things in the last few days with no
>> results. My posts never show up. So this is another test.
>
> I don't know where you're looking. Your post about attachments
> arrived in my mailbox and is also on the web at
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/04/msg00381.html
> At least four people replied so I'm surprised you
> haven't seen any of those.
>
> There's an attachment on the posting at
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/02/msg00852.html
> but I don't know if there's a size limit.
>
> Cheers,
> David.

https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct explicitly 
states "Avoid sending large attachments." implying attachments 
are OK.

As further data:
   11 people have had 16 posts with attachments since 1 Jan 2016 
to this group.
   A friend using aol had regularly sent me emails with 
attachments up until ~4 yrs ago.
   [I hadn't noticed a change as I have SeaMonkey set to display 
attachments.]

HTH

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#166571

On 10/04/2016 2:04 AM, Gary Roach wrote:
> I have tried to post a couple of things in the last few days with no
> results. My posts never show up. So this is another test.

Is it simply a mailman setting, don't send emails from me to me?

A.

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#167176

On Sat, Apr 09, 2016 at 09:04:07AM -0700, Gary Roach wrote:
> I have tried to post a couple of things in the last few days with no
> results. My posts never show up. So this is another test.
> 
Showed up, so test worked positive.
 

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