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Three Problems Yet Remaining

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First post2016-04-06 16:10 +0200
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  Three Problems Yet Remaining Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> - 2016-04-06 16:10 +0200
    Re: Three Problems Yet Remaining <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-04-06 16:20 +0200
    Re: Three Problems Yet Remaining Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 16:20 +0200
      Re: Three Problems Yet Remaining Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> - 2016-04-07 16:20 +0200
    Re: Three Problems Yet Remaining Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> - 2016-04-07 10:40 +0200

#166465 — Three Problems Yet Remaining

FromAlan McConnell <alan@his.com>
Date2016-04-06 16:10 +0200
SubjectThree Problems Yet Remaining
Message-ID<rkWjE-52m-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
Assembled Wisdom!

The first and most important problem is:  my iceweasel crashes instantaneously upon
being invoked, whether from the Activities list on the LH side or from the command
line.  It was totally reliable under   wheezy.

Second:  my mutt, invoked from the terminal/command line.  crashes instantaneously
also.  Before I resigned myself to the gnome environment, it ran fine.

Three:  where is the utility  file  ?  I used this all the time in previous
Debian installations.

Any help/suggestions much appreciated!

Alan

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From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2016-04-06 16:20 +0200
Message-ID<rkWtk-56i-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#166465
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On Wed, Apr 06, 2016 at 10:06:11AM -0400, Alan McConnell wrote:
> Assembled Wisdom!
> 
> The first and most important problem is:  my iceweasel crashes instantaneously upon
> being invoked, whether from the Activities list on the LH side or from the command
> line.  It was totally reliable under   wheezy.
> 
> Second:  my mutt, invoked from the terminal/command line.  crashes instantaneously
> also.  Before I resigned myself to the gnome environment, it ran fine.

Those two might suggest some missing library. Try to do e.g.

  ldd mutt

on some terminal window. What's the output? Same with iceweasel?

Other than that, an "strace mutt" might give you a hint towards the last
things your program is doing before giving its last gasp.

> Three:  where is the utility  file  ?  I used this all the time in previous
> Debian installations.

Sorry. No idea what an "utility file" is.

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#166470

FromMark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-06 16:20 +0200
Message-ID<rkWtl-56i-53@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 11:06 PM Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> wrote:

> Assembled Wisdom!
>
> The first and most important problem is:  my iceweasel crashes
> instantaneously upon
> being invoked, whether from the Activities list on the LH side or from the
> command
> line.  It was totally reliable under   wheezy.
>
> Second:  my mutt, invoked from the terminal/command line.  crashes
> instantaneously
> also.  Before I resigned myself to the gnome environment, it ran fine.
>
>
I suspect the cause of these 2 issues is the same. We'd need to see log
files eg /var/log/messages or something, or maybe the xsession-errors file,
to make any progress on what might be the problem. Are you running Jessie
now? I'm running Iceweasel on Jessie on amd64 architecture with no
stability problems.


> Three:  where is the utility  file  ?  I used this all the time in previous
> Debian installations.
>
>
if you mean the file command, that can tell you the type of a file, it's
still there, it's in a package called, imaginatively, file. "apt-get
install file" as root should restore it if it is missing from your system.
It was just there on mine.

Mark

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#166506

FromAlan McConnell <alan@his.com>
Date2016-04-07 16:20 +0200
Message-ID<rliWT-568-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#166470
Problems are solved!  For the answer, see below.  I suspect that, for the
first time, I am making a useful contribution here that may help others.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Fletcher" <mark27q1@gmail.com>
To: "Alan McConnell" <alan@his.com>, debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 10:13:22 AM
Subject: Re: Three Problems Yet Remaining


The first and most important problem is: my iceweasel crashes instantaneously upon 
being invoked, whether from the Activities list on the LH side or from the command 
line. It was totally reliable under wheezy. 

Second: my mutt, invoked from the terminal/command line. crashes instantaneously 
also. Before I resigned myself to the gnome environment, it ran fine. 

I suspect the cause of these 2 issues is the same. We'd need to see log files eg /var/log/messages or something, or maybe the xsession-errors file, to make any progress on what might be the problem. Are you running Jessie now? I'm running Iceweasel on Jessie on amd64 architecture with no stability problems. 
        What I did was to install the vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-686-pae kernel.  As I wrote a long time ago,
        I tried to install this when in the midst of installing  jessie , but I couldn't do it.  So
        I went to another kernel, and had all the problems I last complained about.  Physical
        Address Extension is what pae stands for. and I advise all who can to use it.

        My iceweasel runs fine, totally robust.  My mutt, ditto.  'file' is there, and works.
        'touch', previously missing, now works.  The one thing I don't have is sound, and I can
        fight that through on my own, I hope.  I've done it before<g>.

Thanks to all for the suggestions, and even for the chastisements<G>.  I hope that some day some
one will figure out about COMRESET, which continues to delay my boot.

Alan, writing this from his own computer!

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#166495

FromSven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se>
Date2016-04-07 10:40 +0200
Message-ID<rldDP-15J-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Wed, 2016-04-06 at 10:06 -0400, Alan McConnell wrote:
> Three:  where is the utility  file  ?  I used this all the time in
> previous
> Debian installations.

Do you mean /usr/bin/file? If so the package is also called file.

-- 
Cheers,
Sven Arvidsson
http://www.whiz.se
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