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Re: Flash update

Started byAnthony Campbell <ac@acampbell.uk>
First post2016-04-01 13:40 +0200
Last post2016-04-04 20:50 +0200
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  Re: Flash update Anthony Campbell <ac@acampbell.uk> - 2016-04-01 13:40 +0200
    Re: Flash update Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-02 06:10 +0200
      Re: Flash update Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-04-02 21:40 +0200
        Re: Flash update Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-03 18:10 +0200
          Re: Flash update Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-04-03 21:00 +0200
            Re: Flash update Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-03 21:00 +0200
      Re: Flash update Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-03 08:30 +0200
    Re: Flash update David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-04-02 06:40 +0200
      Re: Flash update Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-04-02 12:10 +0200
      Re: Flash update Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-03 07:40 +0200
        Re: Flash update Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2016-04-03 13:40 +0200
        Re: Flash update David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-04-04 06:20 +0200
          Re: Flash update Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2016-04-04 08:50 +0200
            Re: Flash update Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 15:20 +0200
            Re: Flash update David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-04-04 17:20 +0200
          Re: Flash update Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-04 17:20 +0200
            Re: Flash update David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-04-04 21:30 +0200
              Re: Flash update Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2016-04-05 02:40 +0200
                Re: Flash update Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 03:00 +0200
                  Re: Flash update Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2016-04-05 03:50 +0200
                  Re: Flash update Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-04-05 11:10 +0200
                    Re: Flash update Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 18:00 +0200
    Re: Flash update Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 21:50 +0200
      Re: Flash update Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-04-04 15:10 +0200
        Re: Flash update Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 16:20 +0200
          Re: Flash update Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-04-04 20:50 +0200

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#166400

FromCurt <curty@free.fr>
Date2016-04-05 11:10 +0200
Message-ID<rkv9L-N0-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#166390
On 2016-04-05, Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> My experience is the exact opposite: with HTML5 videos, I just
>> "right-click => Save Video as..." and it's done, whereas with Flash I am
>> not offered any option to save the video.
>
> Which browser?  I don't get this!

Me neither. I just use one of the (many) Firefox extensions that allow you to
download video (using wheezy-backports firefox-release).



> Lisi
>
>


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#166423

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-05 18:00 +0200
Message-ID<rkByy-6bC-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#166400
On Tuesday 05 April 2016 09:59:13 Curt wrote:
> On 2016-04-05, Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> My experience is the exact opposite: with HTML5 videos, I just
> >> "right-click => Save Video as..." and it's done, whereas with Flash I am
> >> not offered any option to save the video.
> >
> > Which browser?  I don't get this!
>
> Me neither. I just use one of the (many) Firefox extensions that allow you
> to download video (using wheezy-backports firefox-release).
>
> > Lisi

Thanks, both.  That seems worth knowing.  I have wheezy-backports 
firefox-release installed.  I must explore the extensions.

Lisi

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#166307

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-03 21:50 +0200
Message-ID<rjWc1-8j2-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#166149
On Friday 01 April 2016 11:39:29 Anthony Campbell wrote:
> On 27 Jun 2015, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> [snip]
>
> > > > > 1. Using iplayer with flash involves downloading a file.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. Wouldn't it be nice if the file could be downloaded, preferably
> > > > > using a program which is in a package in the Debian archives?
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. Such a package has been mentioned in this thread. It is
> > > > > extensively documented at the program's home page and in its
> > > > > manual.
> > > > >
> > > > > 4. The file being downloaded is a .flv. While it is being
> > > > > downloaded it is being stored on disk so it can be accessed and
> > > > > viewed. vlc is one player which can view .flv files.
>
> [snip]
>
> I know this is an old thread, but I thought it would be worth mentioning
> that BBC IPlayer now works without Flash. If you go to the BBC IPlayer
> web page it says you can access the programs using HTML5. You just have
> to install a cookie to do this. It's still in beta but it works for me,
> at least with recent versions of Firefox and Chromium.

Thanks, Anthony.  But one way or another iPlayer has never been a problem.  
The problem is with channel 4, so the kerfuffle is not for nothing, and teh 
problem is not solved.

Though that is good news about iPlayer.

Lisi

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#166344

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2016-04-04 15:10 +0200
Message-ID<rkcqu-3rR-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#166307
On Sun 03 Apr 2016 at 20:42:08 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:

> On Friday 01 April 2016 11:39:29 Anthony Campbell wrote:
> >
> > I know this is an old thread, but I thought it would be worth mentioning
> > that BBC IPlayer now works without Flash. If you go to the BBC IPlayer
> > web page it says you can access the programs using HTML5. You just have
> > to install a cookie to do this. It's still in beta but it works for me,
> > at least with recent versions of Firefox and Chromium.
> 
> Thanks, Anthony.  But one way or another iPlayer has never been a problem.  
> The problem is with channel 4, so the kerfuffle is not for nothing, and teh 
> problem is not solved.

This is becoming painful to hear about. :)

Install Wine. Get the Windows 7 version of flash (NPAPI if you intend
to use Firefox) and the Windows version of Firefox. Use Wine to install
both.

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#166360

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-04 16:20 +0200
Message-ID<rkdwe-4bf-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#166344
On Monday 04 April 2016 14:04:41 Brian wrote:
> On Sun 03 Apr 2016 at 20:42:08 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Friday 01 April 2016 11:39:29 Anthony Campbell wrote:
> > > I know this is an old thread, but I thought it would be worth
> > > mentioning that BBC IPlayer now works without Flash. If you go to the
> > > BBC IPlayer web page it says you can access the programs using HTML5.
> > > You just have to install a cookie to do this. It's still in beta but it
> > > works for me, at least with recent versions of Firefox and Chromium.
> >
> > Thanks, Anthony.  But one way or another iPlayer has never been a
> > problem. The problem is with channel 4, so the kerfuffle is not for
> > nothing, and teh problem is not solved.
>
> This is becoming painful to hear about. :)

Yes. ;-)  I didn't raise it.   I was responding to the suggestion that there 
isn't a problem.  Someone said that the kerfuffle was for nothing, and that 
was what I was responding to.  But it wasn't Anthony.  I have taken my wrists 
as slapped.
>
> Install Wine. Get the Windows 7 version of flash (NPAPI if you intend
> to use Firefox) and the Windows version of Firefox. Use Wine to install
> both.

Thanks.  I am worrying about greater things at the moment - like that BIOS 
that needs flashing.  I haven't time to watch Channel 4 anyway.  Happy Valley 
being over, I need another fix.  Am about to try The A Word, but haven't had 
time. 

But I hadn't thought of trying this.  :-((  I am getting too bogged down and 
obsessive.  Well, one has to be a little OCD to enjoy communing with 
computers.  I will give it a try when I have time to do something for me.  
(As opposed to for everyone else!)

Lisi

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#166381

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2016-04-04 20:50 +0200
Message-ID<rkhJw-7va-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#166360
On Mon 04 Apr 2016 at 15:14:10 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:

> On Monday 04 April 2016 14:04:41 Brian wrote:
> >
> > This is becoming painful to hear about. :)
> 
> Yes. ;-)  I didn't raise it.   I was responding to the suggestion that there 
> isn't a problem.  Someone said that the kerfuffle was for nothing, and that 
> was what I was responding to.  But it wasn't Anthony.  I have taken my wrists 
> as slapped.

No wrist slapping (physical violence is not my bag) was intended. Plans
A and B have failed so it seemed Plan C was the next step.

> > Install Wine. Get the Windows 7 version of flash (NPAPI if you intend
> > to use Firefox) and the Windows version of Firefox. Use Wine to install
> > both.
> 
> Thanks.  I am worrying about greater things at the moment - like that BIOS 
> that needs flashing.  I haven't time to watch Channel 4 anyway.  Happy Valley 
> being over, I need another fix.  Am about to try The A Word, but haven't had 
> time. 

The Scandanavian and French dramas are always worth a try for a legal
high.

> But I hadn't thought of trying this.  :-((  I am getting too bogged down and 
> obsessive.  Well, one has to be a little OCD to enjoy communing with 
> computers.  I will give it a try when I have time to do something for me.  
> (As opposed to for everyone else!)

There is no Plan D.

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