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| Started by | Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> |
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| First post | 2016-04-01 16:20 +0200 |
| Last post | 2016-04-04 00:50 +0200 |
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running Linux without display Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2016-04-01 16:20 +0200
Re: running Linux without display jdd <jdd@dodin.org> - 2016-04-01 16:30 +0200
Re: running Linux without display Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2016-04-01 17:00 +0200
Re: running Linux without display jdd <jdd@dodin.org> - 2016-04-01 17:10 +0200
Re: running Linux without display Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2016-04-01 17:20 +0200
Re: running Linux without display jdd <jdd@dodin.org> - 2016-04-01 20:30 +0200
Re: running Linux without display John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-04-01 21:20 +0200
Re: running Linux without display Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2016-04-02 13:50 +0200
Re: running Linux without display Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2016-04-02 13:40 +0200
Re: running Linux without display Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-03 07:30 +0200
Re: running Linux without display Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2016-04-03 00:00 +0200
Re: running Linux without display John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-04-03 00:10 +0200
Re: running Linux without display Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2016-04-03 04:50 +0200
Re: running Linux without display Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2016-04-03 04:40 +0200
Re: running Linux without display Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2016-04-03 09:50 +0200
Re: running Linux without display jdd <jdd@dodin.org> - 2016-04-03 10:00 +0200
Re: running Linux without display Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2016-04-03 13:20 +0200
Re: running Linux without display John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-04-03 15:10 +0200
Re: running Linux without display Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2016-04-03 16:10 +0200
Re: running Linux without display John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-04-03 17:10 +0200
Re: running Linux without display Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2016-04-04 00:20 +0200
Re: running Linux without display Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2016-04-03 16:30 +0200
Re: running Linux without display Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2016-04-03 16:50 +0200
Re: running Linux without display John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-04-03 17:00 +0200
Re: running Linux without display Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2016-04-04 00:10 +0200
Re: running Linux without display Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2016-04-04 00:50 +0200
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| From | Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-04 00:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <rjYxb-1zK-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #166271 |
On Sun, 3 Apr 2016, John Hasler wrote: > Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 11:03:06 > From: John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: running Linux without display > Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 15:03:35 +0000 (UTC) > Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Jude DaShiell writes: >> The machine taking the install has good memory and its video connector >> is one for which I have no cable now. I normally hit s at the boot >> prompt and do a debian install that way first that way I'm assured of >> a good command line installation no matter what happens with the >> graphical user interface environment. > > Then you should be able to install a dummy X server from your > command-line environment and then install your desktop environment. Is > the problem that you can't get the command-line install to work? > The command line install works with ethernet and not yet with wifi. I tried a firmware iso and when I got to the network install I got asked if I had broadcom drivers on another disk. Maybe those couldn't be included in the firmware iso but if they are on that iso, the installer acted like those were not available. I can run ethernet to download and install missing drivers and an Xdumy package and that should get me going. --
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| From | Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-04-03 16:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <rjRcm-4FV-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #166256 |
> The screen reader doesn't read the screen but what gets sent at the screen.
That's right. That presumes there is at least an abstract notion of
a screen and in a normal headless server, there is simply no such thing.
Hence, the need for something like Xdummy or Xvfb.
Stefan
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| From | Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-04-03 16:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <rjRvI-4QL-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #166156 |
> What g.u.i. app or apps prevent graphical user interface Linux from running
> if no display can be plugged into the computer?
So the machine does not have a monitor plugged into it.
But does it have a graphics card?
Stefan
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| From | John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-03 17:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <rjRFo-4Uw-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #166267 |
Stefan Monnier writes: > So the machine does not have a monitor plugged into it. But does it > have a graphics card? The graphics card is probably telling X that it has failed to autodetect a monitor. I think that you can still get around that in the X configuration with cards with analog output but it makes more sense to install a dummy X server. -- John Hasler jhasler@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA
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| From | Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-04 00:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <rjYnv-1w3-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #166267 |
On Sun, 3 Apr 2016, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 10:21:40 > From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: running Linux without display > Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 14:48:09 +0000 (UTC) > Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org > >> What g.u.i. app or apps prevent graphical user interface Linux from running >> if no display can be plugged into the computer? > > So the machine does not have a monitor plugged into it. > But does it have a graphics card? > > > Stefan > Yes the machine has a graphics card radeon if I didn't murder the spelling. > --
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| From | Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-04-04 00:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <rjZ0e-1M2-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #166310 |
>>> What g.u.i. app or apps prevent graphical user interface Linux from running
>>> if no display can be plugged into the computer?
>> So the machine does not have a monitor plugged into it.
>> But does it have a graphics card?
> Yes the machine has a graphics card radeon if I didn't murder the spelling.
I think John's right about it, then: the radeon driver probably decided
to "stop" or something like that because it didn't find a monitor (and
hence couldn't choose the resolution and such).
You can probably put something in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to make it
ignore the monitor-detection failure.
But you might be better off using a dummy X server like Xdummy or Xvfb.
Stefan
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