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  New firefox isn't working Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-25 16:50 +0100
    Re: New firefox isn't working Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> - 2016-03-25 23:50 +0100
      Re: New firefox isn't working Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 00:40 +0100
      Re: New firefox isn't working Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-26 02:20 +0100
        Grossly OT - WW2 start Tony van der Hoff <tony@vanderhoff.org> - 2016-03-26 13:30 +0100
          Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 14:40 +0100
            Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Haines Brown <haines@histomat.net> - 2016-03-26 15:00 +0100
              Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-03 11:50 +0200
                Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Glenn Holmer <shadowm@lyonlabs.org> - 2016-04-03 22:00 +0200
              Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-03 11:50 +0200
            Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2016-03-26 15:00 +0100
            Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Terence <terence.john@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 15:00 +0100
              Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Haines Brown <haines@histomat.net> - 2016-03-26 15:20 +0100
                Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Terence <terence.john@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 15:40 +0100
                  Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-03 11:50 +0200
              Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 14:00 +0200
                Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Carl Fink <carl@finknetwork.com> - 2016-03-28 15:00 +0200
                Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2016-03-28 16:20 +0200
                  Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-30 00:40 +0200
                    Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-03-30 01:10 +0200
                      Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-30 01:30 +0200
                    Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-03 11:40 +0200
                Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Terence <terence.john@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 17:10 +0200
                  Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-03-28 19:00 +0200
                    Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Terence <terence.john@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 20:20 +0200
                Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Terence <terence.john@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 17:10 +0200
                  Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-30 01:20 +0200
                    Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-03-30 01:40 +0200
                      Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Charlie <ariestao@ipstarmail.com.au> - 2016-03-30 02:10 +0200
                      Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-03-30 02:10 +0200
                        Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Charlie <charlie@egwildlife.com.au> - 2016-03-30 03:00 +0200
                        Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-30 08:30 +0200
                          Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Glenn Holmer <shadowm@lyonlabs.org> - 2016-03-30 14:50 +0200
                            Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Terence <terence.john@gmail.com> - 2016-03-30 16:10 +0200
                      Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Charlie <charlie@egwildlife.com.au> - 2016-03-30 02:10 +0200
                      Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-03 11:40 +0200
                    Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-03 11:40 +0200
                  Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-03 11:40 +0200
            Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-03 11:30 +0200
          Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-26 16:50 +0100
            Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-03 11:30 +0200
              Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 20:50 +0200
                Re: Grossly OT SO STOP IT ALREADY! Carl Fink <carl@finknetwork.com> - 2016-04-03 21:20 +0200
                  Re: Grossly OT SO STOP IT ALREADY! Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-03 21:20 +0200
                    Re: Grossly OT SO STOP IT ALREADY! Charlie <charlie@egwildlife.com.au> - 2016-04-04 00:50 +0200
                      Re: Grossly OT SO STOP IT ALREADY! Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 15:10 +0200
                Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-03 21:20 +0200
                  Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-04-03 21:30 +0200
                    Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-04 17:30 +0200
                      Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Glenn Holmer <shadowm@lyonlabs.org> - 2016-04-04 20:40 +0200
                        Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 21:50 +0200
                          Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-05 11:50 +0200
                            Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-04-05 13:40 +0200
                              Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Carl Fink <carl@finknetwork.com> - 2016-04-05 15:30 +0200
                                Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-04-05 19:40 +0200
                                Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-09 18:50 +0200
                              Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start humbert.olivier.1@free.fr - 2016-04-05 15:30 +0200
        Re: New firefox isn't working Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-03 11:30 +0200
      Re: New firefox isn't working Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-03 11:20 +0200
    Re: New firefox isn't working Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2016-03-26 17:30 +0100
      Re: New firefox isn't working Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-26 18:50 +0100
    Re: New firefox isn't working Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2016-03-26 18:10 +0100
      Re: New firefox isn't working Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-26 18:50 +0100
        Re: New firefox isn't working Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 19:20 +0100
          Re: New firefox isn't working Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2016-03-26 22:00 +0100
          Re: New firefox isn't working Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2016-03-27 01:20 +0100
            Re: New firefox isn't working Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-27 04:10 +0200

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#165935 — New firefox isn't working

Greetings all;

The reason is that it treats every clicked on link in an email, into a 
download of the site, which kills lots of time, and the subsequent 
display of the site by showing the file://tmp/somehashnumber it has 
downloaded in the address titlebar.

Is this my fault, or firefox?  If my fault, how do I fix it?

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#165958

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On Friday, March 25, 2016, Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:

> Greetings all;
> ...


> Is this my fault, or firefox?  If my fault, how do I fix it?


I can't help you at the moment, Gene, I have pretty much boycotted Firefox.
But I want you to know I enjoyed your web site and totally concur with your
opinions--may God save our nation!

If I were a Facebook user I would "like" your post.

Cheers from another old-timer!

-Tom

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#165965

On Friday 25 March 2016 22:48:36 Tom Browder wrote:
> totally concur with your
> opinions--may God save our nation!

Please can we keep disagreements and comments on religion and politics off 
this site.  The two of them sully so much of the world.  Let's keep this area 
free of them.

Lisi

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#165966

On Friday 25 March 2016 18:48:36 Tom Browder wrote:

> On Friday, March 25, 2016, Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:
> > Greetings all;
> > ...
> >
> >
> > Is this my fault, or firefox?  If my fault, how do I fix it?
>
> I can't help you at the moment, Gene, I have pretty much boycotted
> Firefox. But I want you to know I enjoyed your web site and totally
> concur with your opinions--may God save our nation!
>
> If I were a Facebook user I would "like" your post.
>
> Cheers from another old-timer!
>
> -Tom

Thanks Tom.  Its hell for an old fart who can still remember his 
grandfathers tears the night of Dec 7, 1941.  Tears because he knew we 
would declare war.

And I believe thats the last war we fully intended to win.  Its all been 
downhill since.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#165971 — Grossly OT - WW2 start

On 26/03/16 01:13, Gene Heskett wrote:

> Thanks Tom.  Its hell for an old fart who can still remember his
> grandfathers tears the night of Dec 7, 1941.  Tears because he knew we
> would declare war.
>
> And I believe thats the last war we fully intended to win.  Its all been
> downhill since.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
>

Hmm, despite what you guys seem to think, WW2 started on 1 Sept 1939.

-- 
Tony van der Hoff        | mailto:tony@vanderhoff.org
Buckinghamshire, England |

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#165972 — Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start

Tony van der Hoff wrote:

> On 26/03/16 01:13, Gene Heskett wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Tom.  Its hell for an old fart who can still remember his
>> grandfathers tears the night of Dec 7, 1941.  Tears because he knew we
>> would declare war.
>>
>> And I believe thats the last war we fully intended to win.  Its all been
>> downhill since.
>>
>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
>>
> 
> Hmm, despite what you guys seem to think, WW2 started on 1 Sept 1939.

The start is debatable but arround 39 is correct. He is mixing up Perl
Harbor 1941 and above all USA was involved not to defeat Germany but to
stop USSR invading whole of Western Europe. Just the same game as today.
Nothing new!
In fact the war was carried out by USSR and for obvious facts they had to
share the victory with s.c. allies, but it never worked (Cold War). Just
the same game as today. Nothing new!

regards

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#165973 — Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start

On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 02:37:32PM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> > Hmm, despite what you guys seem to think, WW2 started on 1 Sept 1939.

It seems obvious that when the war started depends on one's
situation. One could argue, for example, that it started in 1937 with
the Rape of Nanking.

Haines

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#166250 — Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start

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On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 09:52:10 -0400
Haines Brown <haines@histomat.net> wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 02:37:32PM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> > > Hmm, despite what you guys seem to think, WW2 started on 1 Sept 1939.
> 
> It seems obvious that when the war started depends on one's
> situation. One could argue, for example, that it started in 1937 with
> the Rape of Nanking.

Surely the start of the Sino-Japanese war would count for more than an incident within it?

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#166308 — Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start

On 04/03/2016 05:41 AM, Adam Wilson wrote:
> Surely the start of the Sino-Japanese war would

Moderators... please, I beg you.

-- 
Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
"After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."

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#166251 — Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start

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On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 09:52:10 -0400
Haines Brown <haines@histomat.net> wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 02:37:32PM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> > > Hmm, despite what you guys seem to think, WW2 started on 1 Sept 1939.
> 
> It seems obvious that when the war started depends on one's
> situation. One could argue, for example, that it started in 1937 with
> the Rape of Nanking.
> 
> Haines
> 

I confused you with this guy due to your email address: histomatist.blogspot.com

I was like- histomat? Like... "the histomatist"?

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#165974 — Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start

Le septidi 7 germinal, an CCXXIV, deloptes a écrit :
> He is mixing up Perl Harbor 1941
                  ^^^^

Using regexps in a war is fighting dirty for sure.

Regards,

-- 
  Nicolas George

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#165975 — Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start

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If you count Japan's actions in China and Manchuria then the war started in
the early 'thirties. As for Germany, Hitler declared war on the USA on the
11 Dec 41, along with Italy, as Hitler, although not legally bound to
support Japan if they were the aggressor, believed that the USA would "beat
him to the punch" and declare war first.

I don't know where the idea that the USA entered the war to stop the USSR
invading Western Europe came from. In December 1941 Germany was deep inside
Russia, and it took the combined Allied might of Great Britain, the USA and
the USSR nearly four years to defeat them.

The USA certainly recognised the threat that the Soviets posed to Western
Europe, and the formation of NATO demonstrated both American support for
Europe and it's major role in it's defence.

Semper fidelis

On 26 March 2016 at 13:37, deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> wrote:

> Tony van der Hoff wrote:
>
> > On 26/03/16 01:13, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Tom.  Its hell for an old fart who can still remember his
> >> grandfathers tears the night of Dec 7, 1941.  Tears because he knew we
> >> would declare war.
> >>
> >> And I believe thats the last war we fully intended to win.  Its all been
> >> downhill since.
> >>
> >> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> >>
> >
> > Hmm, despite what you guys seem to think, WW2 started on 1 Sept 1939.
>
> The start is debatable but arround 39 is correct. He is mixing up Perl
> Harbor 1941 and above all USA was involved not to defeat Germany but to
> stop USSR invading whole of Western Europe. Just the same game as today.
> Nothing new!
> In fact the war was carried out by USSR and for obvious facts they had to
> share the victory with s.c. allies, but it never worked (Cold War). Just
> the same game as today. Nothing new!
>
> regards
>
>

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#165976 — Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start

On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 01:57:33PM +0000, Terence wrote:
> If you count Japan's actions in China and Manchuria then the war started in the
> early 'thirties.

If we are to be historically accurate, WWII was a continuation of WWI as
far as the West is concerned, and perhaps even of the Russo-Japanese war
for Asia.

> I don't know where the idea that the USA entered the war to stop the USSR
> invading Western Europe came from. In December 1941 Germany was deep inside
> Russia, and it took the combined Allied might of Great Britain, the USA and the
> USSR nearly four years to defeat them.

Yes. Many argue that the Battle of Stalingrad was the turning point of
the war in Europe. 

Haines

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#165977 — Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start

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I would agree, with the battle of El Alamein coming at the same time, the
Wehrmacht were suddenly- and strategically- on the defensive on their major
Eastern Front, but also in the south, in their "soft underbelly"..

Of course, this all happened long before GNU/Linux and Debian...

On 26 March 2016 at 14:09, Haines Brown <haines@histomat.net> wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 01:57:33PM +0000, Terence wrote:
> > If you count Japan's actions in China and Manchuria then the war started
> in the
> > early 'thirties.
>
> If we are to be historically accurate, WWII was a continuation of WWI as
> far as the West is concerned, and perhaps even of the Russo-Japanese war
> for Asia.
>
> > I don't know where the idea that the USA entered the war to stop the USSR
> > invading Western Europe came from. In December 1941 Germany was deep
> inside
> > Russia, and it took the combined Allied might of Great Britain, the USA
> and the
> > USSR nearly four years to defeat them.
>
> Yes. Many argue that the Battle of Stalingrad was the turning point of
> the war in Europe.
>
> Haines
>
>

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#166252 — Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start

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On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 14:38:32 +0000
Terence <terence.john@gmail.com> wrote:

> I would agree, with the battle of El Alamein coming at the same time, the
> Wehrmacht were suddenly- and strategically- on the defensive on their major
> Eastern Front, but also in the south, in their "soft underbelly"..

I would say the main turning point on the Eastern Front actually came when Hitler's armies were at the gates of Moscow, but decided not to take it, and divert south towards Stalingrad and the Caucasus oilfields instead. This gave the Russians time to get their act together and counter-attack by the time winter came.

While the allies were running back and forth across North Africa, the USSR had almost-single-handedly pushed the Wehrmacht back, to the point where it was in full retreat by D-day.

> Of course, this all happened long before GNU/Linux and Debian...

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#166022 — Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start

Terence wrote:

> I don't know where the idea that the USA entered the war to stop the USSR
> invading Western Europe came from. In December 1941 Germany was deep
> inside Russia, and it took the combined Allied might of Great Britain, the
> USA and the USSR nearly four years to defeat them.

This is also what I thought before consolidating my knowledge on the matter.
There is a simple fact. 6 June 1944 - D-Day - not earlier.
So IMO the west was always hypocritical as it is today. First they sucked
all the blood money from Europe and when found out that the Soviets would
conquer Europe, they marched in "defeating Hitlers Germany". And Germany is
still officially occupied by the USA. Another fact few of us are aware of.
I won't be surprised if USA claims victory over Daesh in Syria soon.
Really strange world, we live in.

regards

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#166024 — Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 01:53:02PM +0200, deloptes wrote:

> This is also what I thought before consolidating my knowledge on the matter.
> There is a simple fact. 6 June 1944 - D-Day - not earlier.
> So IMO the west was always hypocritical as it is today. First they sucked
> all the blood money from Europe and when found out that the Soviets would
> conquer Europe, they marched in "defeating Hitlers Germany". And Germany is
> still officially occupied by the USA. Another fact few of us are aware of.
> I won't be surprised if USA claims victory over Daesh in Syria soon.
> Really strange world, we live in.

Can this subthread be moved to debian-user-silly-conspiracy-theory where it
belongs?
-- 
Carl Fink                           nitpicking@nitpicking.com 

Read my blog at blog.nitpicking.com.  Reviews!  Observations!
Stupid mistakes you can correct!

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#166027 — Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start

On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 13:53:02 +0200
deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> wrote:

>  And Germany is still officially occupied by the USA. 

ISTR that occupation was over with the re-unification of Germany in October 1990.
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
-- 
                          Take care of the luxuries
              and the necessities will take care of themselves.
                                                -- Lazarus Long
                                    
                   -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --
 

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#166083 — Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start

Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:

> ISTR that occupation was over with the re-unification of Germany in
> October 1990.

Yes for the Soviet Union but not for the USA ;-)

It's not conspiracy - just check the facts. There is nothing signed from USA
part.

Sorry - I was also surprised 

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#166087 — Re: Grossly OT - WW2 start

deloptes writes:
> It's not conspiracy - just check the facts. There is nothing signed
> from USA part.

Nonsense.  See
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Treaty
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Plus_Four_Agreement
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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