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  Changing Boot Order Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> - 2016-03-24 22:00 +0100
    Re: Changing Boot Order Tom <tomashleyjr@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 22:30 +0100
    Re: Changing Boot Order Michael Fothergill <michael.fothergill@googlemail.com> - 2016-03-24 22:50 +0100
    Re: Changing Boot Order songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2016-03-24 23:30 +0100
    Re: Changing Boot Order Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-25 00:00 +0100
    Re: Changing Boot Order Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-03-25 01:00 +0100
    Re: Changing Boot Order David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-03-25 04:30 +0100
      Re: Changing Boot Order Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> - 2016-03-25 22:10 +0100
        Re: Changing Boot Order songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2016-03-25 23:10 +0100
          Re: Changing Boot Order Jhon Prada <jhonalber@gmail.com> - 2016-03-25 23:20 +0100
            Re: Changing Boot Order Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> - 2016-03-26 00:30 +0100
              Re: Changing Boot Order Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-03-26 00:40 +0100
          Re: Changing Boot Order Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> - 2016-03-26 00:20 +0100
            Re: Changing Boot Order Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2016-03-26 00:40 +0100
              Re: Changing Boot Order Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 00:40 +0100
        Re: Changing Boot Order Michael Fothergill <michael.fothergill@googlemail.com> - 2016-03-26 00:00 +0100
          Re: Changing Boot Order jdd <jdd@dodin.org> - 2016-03-26 08:20 +0100
        Re: Changing Boot Order Michael Fothergill <michael.fothergill@googlemail.com> - 2016-03-26 18:50 +0100
    Re: Changing Boot Order Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-03-26 11:10 +0100
      Re: Changing Boot Order Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2016-03-26 12:30 +0100
        Re: Changing Boot Order Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> - 2016-03-26 17:20 +0100
          Re: Changing Boot Order Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 18:00 +0100
            Re: Changing Boot Order Michael Fothergill <michael.fothergill@googlemail.com> - 2016-03-26 18:50 +0100
          Re: Changing Boot Order jdd <jdd@dodin.org> - 2016-03-26 18:40 +0100
            Re: Changing Boot Order chrisb@localhost.localdomain - 2016-03-28 11:40 +0200
              Re: Changing Boot Order Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 12:10 +0200
          Re: Changing Boot Order (correction) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-03-26 19:00 +0100
          Re: Changing Boot Order Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-03-26 19:00 +0100
            Re: Changing Boot Order -- Happiness! Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> - 2016-03-26 20:00 +0100
              Re: Changing Boot Order -- Happiness! songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2016-03-26 20:40 +0100
              Re: Changing Boot Order -- Happiness! Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-03-26 23:00 +0100
                Re: Changing Boot Order -- Happiness! Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 23:50 +0100
                  Re: Changing Boot Order -- Happiness! Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-03-27 00:20 +0100
                  Re: Changing Boot Order -- Happiness! David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-03-28 17:40 +0200
          Re: Changing Boot Order David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-03-26 19:10 +0100
          Re: Changing Boot Order Petter Adsen <petter@synth.no> - 2016-03-27 09:00 +0200
          Re: Changing Boot Order Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-03 12:10 +0200
          Re: Changing Boot Order Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-04-03 12:10 +0200

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#165919 — Changing Boot Order

Assembled Wisdom!

I am running wheezy, and would like to upgrade to jessie.  To
that end I've bought a CD and a USB stick from LinuxCollections.
My problem: when booting I can't get into my bios to change the
boot order.  No matter what key I press, the system continues
on with a re-boot of my old  wheezy.

Details:  my motherboard is a "Military Class Motherboard", which
I believe is also called MSI.  When the image flashed on the screen,
only for a few seconds, I see at the bottom instructions to press
either the F11 key, or the Delete key.  But when I press either of
these, nothing happens.  So my question is: can I change the boot
order from withing wheezy, after I have booted and wheezy is already
in use?

[  Yes, I should have saved the material that came with my machine.
But I have recently moved, quite hurriedly, and I fear that the paper
manuals were lost.  ]

Thanks in advance for all help and suggestions!

Alan

-- 
Alan McConnell :  http://globaltap.com/~alan/
   "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography."(Bierce)
   Know thyself.  If you need help, call the C.I.A.

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#165921

Greetings,

I don't have an answer to your question but maybe sharing a personal 
experience will help with the problem entering bios setup.  I recently 
had the same issue using a wireless keyboard and discovered the system 
only responded to a hardwired keyboard at that point in the boot 
process.  By using a USB keyboard instead of the wireless, I was able to 
enter setup and change the boot order.

HTH

Tom Ashley

On 03/24/2016 04:44 PM, Alan McConnell wrote:
> Assembled Wisdom!
>
> I am running wheezy, and would like to upgrade to jessie.  To
> that end I've bought a CD and a USB stick from LinuxCollections.
> My problem: when booting I can't get into my bios to change the
> boot order.  No matter what key I press, the system continues
> on with a re-boot of my old  wheezy.
>
> Details:  my motherboard is a "Military Class Motherboard", which
> I believe is also called MSI.  When the image flashed on the screen,
> only for a few seconds, I see at the bottom instructions to press
> either the F11 key, or the Delete key.  But when I press either of
> these, nothing happens.  So my question is: can I change the boot
> order from withing wheezy, after I have booted and wheezy is already
> in use?
>
> [  Yes, I should have saved the material that came with my machine.
> But I have recently moved, quite hurriedly, and I fear that the paper
> manuals were lost.  ]
>
> Thanks in advance for all help and suggestions!
>
> Alan
>

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#165923

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On 24 March 2016 at 20:44, Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> wrote:

> Assembled Wisdom!
>
> I am running wheezy, and would like to upgrade to jessie.  To
> that end I've bought a CD and a USB stick from LinuxCollections.
> My problem: when booting I can't get into my bios to change the
> boot order.  No matter what key I press, the system continues
> on with a re-boot of my old  wheezy.
>
> Details:  my motherboard is a "Military Class Motherboard", which
> I believe is also called MSI.  When the image flashed on the screen,
> only for a few seconds, I see at the bottom instructions to press
> either the F11 key, or the Delete key.  But when I press either of
> these, nothing happens.


​Try hitting the F11 key twice and then quickly move to the delete key and
hit it twice as well.

That works for mine.....

Regds

MF​



> So my question is: can I change the boot
> order from withing wheezy, after I have booted and wheezy is already
> in use?
>
> [  Yes, I should have saved the material that came with my machine.
> But I have recently moved, quite hurriedly, and I fear that the paper
> manuals were lost.  ]
>
> Thanks in advance for all help and suggestions!
>
> Alan
>
> --
> Alan McConnell :  http://globaltap.com/~alan/
>    "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography."(Bierce)
>    Know thyself.  If you need help, call the C.I.A.
>
>


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#165924

Alan McConnell wrote:
> Assembled Wisdom!
>
> I am running wheezy, and would like to upgrade to jessie.  To
> that end I've bought a CD and a USB stick from LinuxCollections.
> My problem: when booting I can't get into my bios to change the
> boot order.  No matter what key I press, the system continues
> on with a re-boot of my old  wheezy.
>
> Details:  my motherboard is a "Military Class Motherboard", which
> I believe is also called MSI.  When the image flashed on the screen,
> only for a few seconds, I see at the bottom instructions to press
> either the F11 key, or the Delete key.  But when I press either of
> these, nothing happens.  So my question is: can I change the boot
> order from withing wheezy, after I have booted and wheezy is already
> in use?
>
> [  Yes, I should have saved the material that came with my machine.
> But I have recently moved, quite hurriedly, and I fear that the paper
> manuals were lost.  ]
>
> Thanks in advance for all help and suggestions!

  yes, it is in grub you can change which is booted first.


  the file:

/etc/default/grub

 (make backup copy if you make changes you are unsure about)


 songbird

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#165925

On Thursday 24 March 2016 20:44:54 Alan McConnell wrote:
> Assembled Wisdom!
>
> I am running wheezy, and would like to upgrade to jessie.  To
> that end I've bought a CD and a USB stick from LinuxCollections.
> My problem: when booting I can't get into my bios to change the
> boot order.  No matter what key I press, the system continues
> on with a re-boot of my old  wheezy.
>
> Details:  my motherboard is a "Military Class Motherboard", which
> I believe is also called MSI.  When the image flashed on the screen,
> only for a few seconds, I see at the bottom instructions to press
> either the F11 key, or the Delete key.  But when I press either of
> these, nothing happens.  So my question is: can I change the boot
> order from withing wheezy, after I have booted and wheezy is already
> in use?
>
> [  Yes, I should have saved the material that came with my machine.
> But I have recently moved, quite hurriedly, and I fear that the paper
> manuals were lost.  ]

To answer the question you didn't ask, when you press F11 or Del, do you press 
once and hope?  If so, press the start button, and press Del continuously, 
immediately,  until it has either ignored you and booted, or brought up the 
BIOS.  If that doesn't work, try again with F11.  Again, as you press the 
start button start continuously pressing F11 until it has either brought up 
the boot menu or ignored you.  Ideally with a PS2 keyboard.  I have had 
problems even with a USB keyboard, and a wireless one for that purpose is 
certainly a no-no.

The answer to your actual question is that I don't know. :-(

Lisi

Lisi

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#165926

Alan McConnell composed on 2016-03-24 16:44 (UTC-0400):

> I am running wheezy, and would like to upgrade to jessie.  To
> that end I've bought a CD and a USB stick from LinuxCollections.
> My problem: when booting I can't get into my bios to change the
> boot order.  No matter what key I press, the system continues
> on with a re-boot of my old  wheezy.

> Details:  my motherboard is a "Military Class Motherboard", which
> I believe is also called MSI....

MSI is a motherboard brand. Military Class is a feature class MSI marketing 
uses. I have one such:
https://us.msi.com/product/motherboard/B85-G41-PC-Mate.html

...
> [  Yes, I should have saved the material that came with my machine.
> But I have recently moved, quite hurriedly, and I fear that the paper
> manuals were lost.  ]

If indeed yours is a MSI motherboard, which is probably fairly obvious early 
in POST, then pop the cover, find the model number stenciled largely on it, 
and find a PDF manual on MSI's web site.
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

  Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

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#165927

On Thu 24 Mar 2016 at 16:44:54 (-0400), Alan McConnell wrote:
> Assembled Wisdom!
> 
> I am running wheezy, and would like to upgrade to jessie.  To
> that end I've bought a CD and a USB stick from LinuxCollections.
> My problem: when booting I can't get into my bios to change the
> boot order.  No matter what key I press, the system continues
> on with a re-boot of my old  wheezy.
> 
> Details:  my motherboard is a "Military Class Motherboard", which
> I believe is also called MSI.  When the image flashed on the screen,
> only for a few seconds, I see at the bottom instructions to press
> either the F11 key, or the Delete key.  But when I press either of
> these, nothing happens.  So my question is: can I change the boot
> order from withing wheezy, after I have booted and wheezy is already
> in use?

On a Dell, by the time you see the message, it's a bit late for
pressing F12 (as it happens) to get a one-time boot menu. You really
need to start tapping the key repeatedly as soon as the screen
displays anything. Ditto for F2 (your DEL) to get to the BIOS.

Cheers,
David.

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#165954

First, thanks for all the responses.  They fell into two classes:
those who advised repeating tapping/pressing on either the F!!
key or the Delete key.  I've done that dozens of times, and
received no responses.   And I can't change the screen which
asks me which kernel I want to boot.  I get the top entry, and
that's that.

Others have suggested changing /etc/default/grub.  I've tried
that too, and have run 'update-grub' afterward.  It doesn't seem
to have done anything.  Perhaps someone can post an example of
an /etc/default/grub where the boot order is explicitly described?

I have found the paper manual for this, aftee some searching<g>.
It is labeled like the picture that appears on the boot., except
that it has Z97 and H97 on the bottom, and is labeled User Guide
It doesn't assume any kind of problem with accessing the boot
menu.  But it does give a URL for Tech Support:  register.msi.com .
There you have to sign up.  I've tried to sign up, but without
success.

There you have it.  I'm stymied on all fronts.  Again I plea
for help!

TIA,

Alan

-- 
Alan McConnell :  http://globaltap.com/~alan/
   "Women run for office to do something, and men run for
   office to be somebody." (Debbie Walsh)

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#165955

Alan McConnell wrote:
...
> Others have suggested changing /etc/default/grub.  I've tried
> that too, and have run 'update-grub' afterward.  It doesn't seem
> to have done anything.  Perhaps someone can post an example of
> an /etc/default/grub where the boot order is explicitly described?

  i just tried this to make sure it worked as described 
and it worked so i'm not sure what you didn't do correctly.

  when your grub boot screen flashes there will be a list
of entries to select.  the default if you haven't changed
anything is 0.  i.e. the first item on that list.

  so to boot a different selection you edit /etc/default/grub
the line that mentions GRUB_DEFAULT and change the 0 to some
other number.

  in my case i have four entries.  so to test another i
picked the entry 2 (which is really 3 on the list on the
screen).  then did update-grub (as root).  worked.


  songbird

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#165957

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El 25 mar. 2016 5:36 PM, "songbird" <songbird@anthive.com> escribió:
>
> Alan McConnell wrote:
> ...
> > Others have suggested changing /etc/default/grub.  I've tried
> > that too, and have run 'update-grub' afterward.  It doesn't seem
> > to have done anything.  Perhaps someone can post an example of
> > an /etc/default/grub where the boot order is explicitly described?
>
>   i just tried this to make sure it worked as described
> and it worked so i'm not sure what you didn't do correctly.
>
>   when your grub boot screen flashes there will be a list
> of entries to select.  the default if you haven't changed
> anything is 0.  i.e. the first item on that list.
>
>   so to boot a different selection you edit /etc/default/grub
> the line that mentions GRUB_DEFAULT and change the 0 to some
> other number.
>
>   in my case i have four entries.  so to test another i
> picked the entry 2 (which is really 3 on the list on the
> screen).  then did update-grub (as root).  worked.
>
>
>   songbird
>

HI don't waste your time with Debian explanations.  Plug the keyboard and
see if the lights are lighting.  If don't, it's the keyboard that is not
activating in the boot.  Look for another keyboard or plug into another
port and turns on the computer.  If the light is on, press f11 some some
times until appear a menú with your boot drives

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#165961

On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 05:44:52PM -0430, Jhon Prada wrote:
>
> HI don't waste your time with Debian explanations.  Plug the keyboard and
> see if the lights are lighting.  If don't, it's the keyboard that is not
> activating in the boot.  Look for another keyboard or plug into another
> port and turns on the computer.  If the light is on, press f11 some some
> times until appear a menú with your boot drives
  	When I turn on the computer, the keyboard lights up just fine.
	And everything else works fine.  It is just that I can't
	boot from anything but my /boot, with its functioning grub.

	In other words, the computer works fine, except that it
	can boot only from the SW I have in my /boot and /boot/grub
	directories.

Alan

-- 
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   "Women run for office to do something, and men run for
   office to be somebody." (Debbie Walsh)

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#165963

Alan McConnell composed on 2016-03-25 19:21 (UTC-0400):

>    	When I turn on the computer, the keyboard lights up just fine.
> 	And everything else works fine.  It is just that I can't
> 	boot from anything but my /boot, with its functioning grub.

> 	In other words, the computer works fine, except that it
> 	can boot only from the SW I have in my /boot and /boot/grub
> 	directories.

So apparently what you need to do is get into BIOS setup, and change the boot 
device priority order to make DVD and/or USB higher priority than HD. In my 
MSI military class motherboard BIOS it can be done with mouse on the "boot 
device priority bar", which starts just a little bit below the great big 
digital clock top center.
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

  Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

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#165960

On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 06:04:12PM -0400, songbird wrote:
>
>   i just tried this to make sure it worked as described 
> and it worked so i'm not sure what you didn't do correctly.
> 
>   when your grub boot screen flashes there will be a list
> of entries to select.  the default if you haven't changed
> anything is 0.  i.e. the first item on that list.
  	   OK, I must apologize.  Massive confusion here.
	   You are telling me which of the several kernels
	   I have that I can boot.  But when I wrote "Boot Order"
	   I was referring to being able to boot first from
	   the flash drive, then from the DVD drive, and
	   then, if there isn't a bootable flash drive inserted,
	   then the BIOS will check if there is a bootable DVD
	   inserted . . .  Only if there is no bootable USB thumb
	   drive inserted, or a bootable DVD, will the OS move
	   on to boot one of the kernels you have.

	   I have a DVD, containing the first DVD of the Debian
	   jessie, and a USB stick, which I believe contains the
	   rest of  jessie , and I wish to install jessie using
	   these purchases.  But I can't if I can't get anything
	   to boot except the old wheezy kernels that have been
	   on my system for ever.

	   Sorry for the confusion.

Alan

-- 
Alan McConnell :  http://globaltap.com/~alan/
   "Women run for office to do something, and men run for
   office to be somebody." (Debbie Walsh)

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#165962

On 03/25/2016 07:16 PM, Alan McConnell wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 06:04:12PM -0400, songbird wrote:
>>    i just tried this to make sure it worked as described
>> and it worked so i'm not sure what you didn't do correctly.
>>
>>    when your grub boot screen flashes there will be a list
>> of entries to select.  the default if you haven't changed
>> anything is 0.  i.e. the first item on that list.
>    	   OK, I must apologize.  Massive confusion here.
> 	   You are telling me which of the several kernels
> 	   I have that I can boot.  But when I wrote "Boot Order"
> 	   I was referring to being able to boot first from
> 	   the flash drive, then from the DVD drive, and
> 	   then, if there isn't a bootable flash drive inserted,
> 	   then the BIOS will check if there is a bootable DVD
> 	   inserted . . .  Only if there is no bootable USB thumb
> 	   drive inserted, or a bootable DVD, will the OS move
> 	   on to boot one of the kernels you have.
>
> 	   I have a DVD, containing the first DVD of the Debian
> 	   jessie, and a USB stick, which I believe contains the
> 	   rest of  jessie , and I wish to install jessie using
> 	   these purchases.  But I can't if I can't get anything
> 	   to boot except the old wheezy kernels that have been
> 	   on my system for ever.
>
> 	   Sorry for the confusion.
>
> Alan
>
Perhaps I am not understanding the problem, but boot order for _devices_ 
(not kernels or operating systems) is controlled by
the computer BIOS. When you turn on the computer, there is usually some 
sort of message that says what key to press to
access the BIOS setup routines. If there is not, the usual suspects are 
Del, or F2, or perhaps Esc. If you have the manual
for your machine (or the MOBO in it) it should tell you. Some computers 
are a bit fussy about exactly _when_ you press
the key, so if it doesn't seem to work, try again.

--doug

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#165964

On Friday 25 March 2016 23:31:34 Doug wrote:
> On 03/25/2016 07:16 PM, Alan McConnell wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 06:04:12PM -0400, songbird wrote:
> >>    i just tried this to make sure it worked as described
> >> and it worked so i'm not sure what you didn't do correctly.
> >>
> >>    when your grub boot screen flashes there will be a list
> >> of entries to select.  the default if you haven't changed
> >> anything is 0.  i.e. the first item on that list.
> >
> >    	   OK, I must apologize.  Massive confusion here.
> > 	   You are telling me which of the several kernels
> > 	   I have that I can boot.  But when I wrote "Boot Order"
> > 	   I was referring to being able to boot first from
> > 	   the flash drive, then from the DVD drive, and
> > 	   then, if there isn't a bootable flash drive inserted,
> > 	   then the BIOS will check if there is a bootable DVD
> > 	   inserted . . .  Only if there is no bootable USB thumb
> > 	   drive inserted, or a bootable DVD, will the OS move
> > 	   on to boot one of the kernels you have.
> >
> > 	   I have a DVD, containing the first DVD of the Debian
> > 	   jessie, and a USB stick, which I believe contains the
> > 	   rest of  jessie , and I wish to install jessie using
> > 	   these purchases.  But I can't if I can't get anything
> > 	   to boot except the old wheezy kernels that have been
> > 	   on my system for ever.
> >
> > 	   Sorry for the confusion.
> >
> > Alan
>
> Perhaps I am not understanding the problem, but boot order for _devices_
> (not kernels or operating systems) is controlled by
> the computer BIOS. When you turn on the computer, there is usually some
> sort of message that says what key to press to
> access the BIOS setup routines. If there is not, the usual suspects are
> Del, or F2, or perhaps Esc. If you have the manual
> for your machine (or the MOBO in it) it should tell you. Some computers
> are a bit fussy about exactly _when_ you press
> the key, so if it doesn't seem to work, try again.

And however much the keyboard you have lights up, try another keyboard or two 
or there, preferably of different types, if at all possible including a PS2 
one.

Lisi

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#165959

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On 25 March 2016 at 21:01, Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> wrote:

> First, thanks for all the responses.  They fell into two classes:
> those who advised repeating tapping/pressing on either the F!!
> key or the Delete key.  I've done that dozens of times, and
> received no responses.   And I can't change the screen which
> asks me which kernel I want to boot.  I get the top entry, and
> that's that.
>
> Others have suggested changing /etc/default/grub.  I've tried
> that too, and have run 'update-grub' afterward.  It doesn't seem
> to have done anything.  Perhaps someone can post an example of
> an /etc/default/grub where the boot order is explicitly described?
>
> I have found the paper manual for this, aftee some searching<g>.
> It is labeled like the picture that appears on the boot., except
> that it has Z97 and H97 on the bottom, and is labeled User Guide
> It doesn't assume any kind of problem with accessing the boot
> menu.  But it does give a URL for Tech Support:  register.msi.com .
> There you have to sign up.  I've tried to sign up, but without
> success.
>
> There you have it.  I'm stymied on all fronts.  Again I plea
> for help!
>

​Try this:​


​http://www.easyuefi.com/index-us.htm​l

​It says it can be installed on linux machines.

Regds

Michael​

>
> TIA,
>
> Alan
>
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>    office to be somebody." (Debbie Walsh)
>
>


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#165967

Le 25/03/2016 23:52, Michael Fothergill a écrit :

> ​Try this:​
>
> ​http://www.easyuefi.com/index-us.htm​l
>
> ​It says it can be installed on linux machines.
>

don't think so. It's a windows app that can also manage linux uefi 
entries on nvram

(not tested with wine?)

jdd

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On 25 March 2016 at 21:01, Alan McConnell <alan@his.com> wrote:

> First, thanks for all the responses.  They fell into two classes:
> those who advised repeating tapping/pressing on either the F!!
> key or the Delete key.  I've done that dozens of times, and
> received no responses.   And I can't change the screen which
> asks me which kernel I want to boot.  I get the top entry, and
> that's that.
>
> Others have suggested changing /etc/default/grub.  I've tried
> that too, and have run 'update-grub' afterward.  It doesn't seem
> to have done anything.  Perhaps someone can post an example of
> an /etc/default/grub where the boot order is explicitly described?
>
> I have found the paper manual for this, aftee some searching<g>.
> It is labeled like the picture that appears on the boot., except
> that it has Z97 and H97 on the bottom, and is labeled User Guide
> It doesn't assume any kind of problem with accessing the boot
> menu.  But it does give a URL for Tech Support:  register.msi.com .
> There you have to sign up.  I've tried to sign up, but without
> success.
>
> There you have it.  I'm stymied on all fronts.  Again I plea
> for help!
>

​Maybe you could try this:​


​
http://www.cnet.com/uk/how-to/how-to-change-the-boot-order-of-a-dual-boot-linux-pc/
​

ie use an ubuntu package called StartUp-Manager

also see the grub cusomizer package used in ubuntu produced by Daniel
Richter:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1664134

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gaImxC-grU

It can change boot order.

There is another package for Ubuntu called rEFind that might be helpful:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/refind/

http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/index.html
MF

​There are some extra suggestions here:​


​
http://www.zdnet.com/article/seven-ways-to-set-up-multi-booting-with-windows-8-and-linux/
​

Regds

MF

>
> TIA,
>
> Alan
>
> --
> Alan McConnell :  http://globaltap.com/~alan/
>    "Women run for office to do something, and men run for
>    office to be somebody." (Debbie Walsh)
>
>

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#165969

Alan McConnell a écrit :
> 
> I am running wheezy, and would like to upgrade to jessie.  To
> that end I've bought a CD and a USB stick from LinuxCollections.
> My problem: when booting I can't get into my bios to change the
> boot order.  No matter what key I press, the system continues
> on with a re-boot of my old  wheezy.

I won't answer your question but juste make two comments.

1) Why do you want to boot the Debian Jessie installer ? You don't need
it to upgrade your Wheezy installation to Jessie, only to reinstall a
new system.

2) You can boot the Debian installer from the boot loader installed on
the system disk. The installer has a kernel image (vmlinuz) and
initramfs (initrd.gz) just like any other Linux system.

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#165970

> boot order.  No matter what key I press, the system continues
> on with a re-boot of my old  wheezy. 

Question: Are you using an USB keyboard ?

I remember having the problem some time back, where a default setting of the BIOS had to be changed to enable the BIOS to control USB.

And of course you could not access the BIOS with a USB keyboard until the setting had been changed. (Catch 22 anyone ?)

The solution then was to borrow a PS2 keyboard for the initial BIOS setting process.
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
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