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Sound problems

Started byLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
First post2016-03-16 17:30 +0100
Last post2016-03-17 17:10 +0100
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  Sound problems Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 17:30 +0100
    Re: Sound problems deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 21:00 +0100
    Re: Sound problems Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 21:10 +0100
      Re: Sound problems Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 23:50 +0100
        Re: Sound problems Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-17 00:00 +0100
    Re: Sound problems Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-03-16 21:30 +0100
      Re: Sound problems deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 00:10 +0100
        Re: Sound problems Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-03-17 01:20 +0100
          Re: Sound problems deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 10:00 +0100
            Re: Sound problems Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-03-17 16:40 +0100
              Re: Sound problems Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 17:10 +0100
                Re: Sound problems Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 17:30 +0100
                  Re: Sound problems Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-03-17 18:50 +0100
                    [OT] Questions, was Re: Sound problems David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-03-17 19:30 +0100
    Re: Sound problems Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-03-17 17:10 +0100

#165492 — Sound problems

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-16 17:30 +0100
SubjectSound problems
Message-ID<rdmuC-2UO-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
I have currently no sound.

It is an ASROCK N3050B-ITX motherboard with onboard sound with the following 
specifications:

Chipset  Intel N3050
Sound Card Type  Realtek ALC887
Number of Sound Card Channels  7.1

I have the following information:

peter@Eros:~$ lspci -nnk | grep udio
00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:2284] (rev 21)
peter@Eros:~$ lsmod | grep udio
peter@Eros:~$ lsmod | grep snd
snd_seq_dummy          12467  0
snd_seq                57061  1 snd_seq_dummy
snd_seq_device         13132  2 snd_seq,snd_seq_dummy
snd_hda_codec_hdmi     45118  1
snd_hda_codec_realtek    67127  1
snd_hda_codec_generic    63181  1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hda_intel          26327  5
snd_hda_controller     26646  1 snd_hda_intel
snd_hda_codec         104500  5 
snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
snd_hwdep              13148  1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm                88662  4 
snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
snd_timer              26627  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd                    65244  20 
snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_seq_device
soundcore              13026  2 snd,snd_hda_codec
peter@Eros:~$ aplay -L
default
    Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server
null
    Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
pulse
    PulseAudio Sound Server
sysdefault:CARD=PCH
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
    Default Audio Device
front:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
    Front speakers
surround21:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
    2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers
surround40:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
    4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
    4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
    5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
    5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
    7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
hdmi:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
    HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 0
    HDMI Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=PCH,DEV=1
    HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 1
    HDMI Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=PCH,DEV=2
    HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 2
    HDMI Audio Output
dmix:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
    Direct sample mixing device
dmix:CARD=PCH,DEV=3
    HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 0
    Direct sample mixing device
dmix:CARD=PCH,DEV=7
    HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 1
    Direct sample mixing device
dmix:CARD=PCH,DEV=8
    HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 2
    Direct sample mixing device
dsnoop:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
    Direct sample snooping device
dsnoop:CARD=PCH,DEV=3
    HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 0
    Direct sample snooping device
dsnoop:CARD=PCH,DEV=7
    HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 1
    Direct sample snooping device
dsnoop:CARD=PCH,DEV=8
    HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 2
    Direct sample snooping device
hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
    Direct hardware device without any conversions
hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=3
    HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 0
    Direct hardware device without any conversions
hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=7
    HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 1
    Direct hardware device without any conversions
hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=8
    HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 2
    Direct hardware device without any conversions
plughw:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
    HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
    Hardware device with all software conversions
plughw:CARD=PCH,DEV=3
    HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 0
    Hardware device with all software conversions
plughw:CARD=PCH,DEV=7
    HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 1
    Hardware device with all software conversions
plughw:CARD=PCH,DEV=8
    HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 2
    Hardware device with all software conversions
peter@Eros:~$   

I have installed and tried to adjust pavucontrol, but it doesn't seem to see 
the sound card correctly.

Missing drivers?  Which??

Very little sleep last night is probably not helping.  But my husband wanted 
this emergency computer fast so that he could keep up with his courses - and 
for that he wants sound. :-(

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#165503

Fromdeloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-16 21:00 +0100
Message-ID<rdpLQ-4Ym-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165492
Lisi Reisz wrote:

> Missing drivers?  Which??
> 
> Very little sleep last night is probably not helping.  But my husband
> wanted this emergency computer fast so that he could keep up with his
> courses - and for that he wants sound.

Try disabling HDMI in the bios. This was work around for some audio cards
with intel chip and HDMI

regards

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#165504

FromRic Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-16 21:10 +0100
Message-ID<rdpVw-5jX-39@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165492
On 03/16/2016 12:22 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> I have currently no sound.
>
> It is an ASROCK N3050B-ITX motherboard with onboard sound with the following
> specifications:
>
> Chipset  Intel N3050
> Sound Card Type  Realtek ALC887
> Number of Sound Card Channels  7.1
>
> I have the following information:
>
> peter@Eros:~$ lspci -nnk | grep udio
> 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:2284] (rev 21)
> peter@Eros:~$ lsmod | grep udio
> peter@Eros:~$ lsmod | grep snd
> snd_seq_dummy          12467  0
> snd_seq                57061  1 snd_seq_dummy
> snd_seq_device         13132  2 snd_seq,snd_seq_dummy
> snd_hda_codec_hdmi     45118  1
> snd_hda_codec_realtek    67127  1
> snd_hda_codec_generic    63181  1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
> snd_hda_intel          26327  5
> snd_hda_controller     26646  1 snd_hda_intel
> snd_hda_codec         104500  5
> snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
> snd_hwdep              13148  1 snd_hda_codec
> snd_pcm                88662  4
> snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
> snd_timer              26627  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
> snd                    65244  20
> snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_seq_device
> soundcore              13026  2 snd,snd_hda_codec
> peter@Eros:~$ aplay -L
> default
>      Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server
> null
>      Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
> pulse
>      PulseAudio Sound Server
> sysdefault:CARD=PCH
>      HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
>      Default Audio Device
> front:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
>      HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
>      Front speakers
> surround21:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
>      HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
>      2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers
> surround40:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
>      HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
>      4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
> surround41:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
>      HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
>      4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
> surround50:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
>      HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
>      5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
> surround51:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
>      HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
>      5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
> surround71:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
>      HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
>      7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
> hdmi:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
>      HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 0
>      HDMI Audio Output
> hdmi:CARD=PCH,DEV=1
>      HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 1
>      HDMI Audio Output
> hdmi:CARD=PCH,DEV=2
>      HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 2
>      HDMI Audio Output
> dmix:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
>      HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
>      Direct sample mixing device
> dmix:CARD=PCH,DEV=3
>      HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 0
>      Direct sample mixing device
> dmix:CARD=PCH,DEV=7
>      HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 1
>      Direct sample mixing device
> dmix:CARD=PCH,DEV=8
>      HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 2
>      Direct sample mixing device
> dsnoop:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
>      HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
>      Direct sample snooping device
> dsnoop:CARD=PCH,DEV=3
>      HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 0
>      Direct sample snooping device
> dsnoop:CARD=PCH,DEV=7
>      HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 1
>      Direct sample snooping device
> dsnoop:CARD=PCH,DEV=8
>      HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 2
>      Direct sample snooping device
> hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
>      HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
>      Direct hardware device without any conversions
> hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=3
>      HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 0
>      Direct hardware device without any conversions
> hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=7
>      HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 1
>      Direct hardware device without any conversions
> hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=8
>      HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 2
>      Direct hardware device without any conversions
> plughw:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
>      HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
>      Hardware device with all software conversions
> plughw:CARD=PCH,DEV=3
>      HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 0
>      Hardware device with all software conversions
> plughw:CARD=PCH,DEV=7
>      HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 1
>      Hardware device with all software conversions
> plughw:CARD=PCH,DEV=8
>      HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 2
>      Hardware device with all software conversions
> peter@Eros:~$
>
> I have installed and tried to adjust pavucontrol, but it doesn't seem to see
> the sound card correctly.
>
> Missing drivers?  Which??
>
> Very little sleep last night is probably not helping.  But my husband wanted
> this emergency computer fast so that he could keep up with his courses - and
> for that he wants sound. :-(

 From command line, enter alsamixer. It should pop up and you are 
looking for muted channels. Hit F6 to chose the Intel device and you'll 
see vertical volume bars.  Each setting bar should display 00 just below 
each bar. If you see mm then that channel is muted and you want to hit 
the m key to un-mute it. I know ...primitive.

If you would rather use a nice gui then enter (as root user) apt-get 
install alsamixergui. I love pulse audio, but it sits on top of alsa, so 
if alsa if broken, pulse won't stand a chance. So, I'm betting 50 cents 
that says fixing the alsa settings will enable sound for you. Ric


-- 
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html

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#165509

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-16 23:50 +0100
Message-ID<rdsql-75x-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165504
On Wednesday 16 March 2016 20:03:37 Ric Moore wrote:
> So, I'm betting 50 cents
> that says fixing the alsa settings will enable sound for you. Ric

50c is on its way to you.  Thank you. :-)

Lisi

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#165510

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2016-03-17 00:00 +0100
Message-ID<rdsA1-78W-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165509
On Wednesday 16 March 2016 18:48:57 Lisi Reisz wrote:

> On Wednesday 16 March 2016 20:03:37 Ric Moore wrote:
> > So, I'm betting 50 cents
> > that says fixing the alsa settings will enable sound for you. Ric
>
> 50c is on its way to you.  Thank you. :-)
>
> Lisi

See Lisi, that fellow Ric is an alright guy. :)

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#165506

FromFelix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
Date2016-03-16 21:30 +0100
Message-ID<rdqeR-5tf-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165492
Lisi Reisz composed on 2016-03-16 16:22 (UTC):

> I have currently no sound.
 
> It is an ASROCK N3050B-ITX motherboard with onboard sound with the following
> specifications:
 
> Chipset  Intel N3050
> Sound Card Type  Realtek ALC887
> Number of Sound Card Channels  7.1
 
The Intel Haswell motherboard/sound in this PC with

00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller (rev 06)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)

required this in /etc/modules.d/99-local.conf:

	options snd-hda-intel index=1,0

cf. this on another machine with sound trouble running TDE:
http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2612
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

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#165511

Fromdeloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-17 00:10 +0100
Message-ID<rdsJH-7sj-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165506
Felix Miata wrote:

> /etc/modules.d/

Hi your post is interesting for me.

on the debian one it is /etc/modprobe.d/ - no?

I have similar chip if not same

00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller (rev
0b)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series HD Audio Controller (rev
04)

so there I put sound.conf in /etc/modprobe.d/ and it has

## ALSA portion
alias char-major-116 snd
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio

## module options should go here
options snd-hda-intel index=0 model=ref enable_msi=1 enable=0,1
options snd-usb-audio index=1

which means HDMI is disabled (enable=0,1)

But according your proposal it should be possible to invert the order of how
it is initialized - correct?

Now for the setup above perhaps I should change to

options snd-hda-intel index=1,0 model=ref enable_msi=1
options snd-usb-audio index=2

What do you think Mr Miata?

Why should it be related to TDE? I do not think your statement is rectified
here. However I did not test anything else.

regards

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#165513

FromFelix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
Date2016-03-17 01:20 +0100
Message-ID<rdtPt-89y-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165511
deloptes composed on 2016-03-17 0:05 (UTC+0100):

> Felix Miata wrote:

>> /etc/modules.d/

> Hi your post is interesting for me.

> on the debian one it is /etc/modprobe.d/ - no?

I screwed up, fingers badly out of sync with eyeballs. :-p modprobe.d/ it is.

> I have similar chip if not same

> 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller (rev 0b)
> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series HD Audio Controller (rev 04)

> so there I put sound.conf in /etc/modprobe.d/ and it has

> ## ALSA portion
> alias char-major-116 snd
> alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
> alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio

> ## module options should go here
> options snd-hda-intel index=0 model=ref enable_msi=1 enable=0,1
> options snd-usb-audio index=1

> which means HDMI is disabled (enable=0,1)

> But according your proposal it should be possible to invert the order of how
> it is initialized - correct?

I probably would never have figured out on my own to swap 0 and 1.
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=954824#c8
is where it came from. Follow-up to that bug comment begins here:
https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2015-12/msg00298.html

> Now for the setup above perhaps I should change to

> options snd-hda-intel index=1,0 model=ref enable_msi=1
> options snd-usb-audio index=2

> What do you think Mr Miata?

Sound config makes me crazy, sometimes just working, other times impossible 
to make work, and occasionally working via minimal effort. I would have to 
try your proposal to begin to know what to think. As the machine it applies 
to is this one rather than one of my many test installations, and I have no 
current sound system complaints, I won't be disturbing the sleeping dog.

> Why should it be related to TDE? I do not think your statement is rectified
> here. However I did not test anything else.

I only mentioned TDE because I know Lisi uses it.
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

  Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

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#165523

Fromdeloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-17 10:00 +0100
Message-ID<rdBWH-50M-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165513
Felix Miata wrote:

> deloptes composed on 2016-03-17 0:05 (UTC+0100):
> 
>> Felix Miata wrote:
> 
>>> /etc/modules.d/
> 
>> Hi your post is interesting for me.
> 
>> on the debian one it is /etc/modprobe.d/ - no?
> 
> I screwed up, fingers badly out of sync with eyeballs. :-p modprobe.d/ it
> is.
> 

No problem

>> I have similar chip if not same
> 
>> 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller
>> (rev 0b) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series HD Audio
>> Controller (rev 04)
> 
>> so there I put sound.conf in /etc/modprobe.d/ and it has
> 
>> ## ALSA portion
>> alias char-major-116 snd
>> alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
>> alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio
> 
>> ## module options should go here
>> options snd-hda-intel index=0 model=ref enable_msi=1 enable=0,1
>> options snd-usb-audio index=1
> 
>> which means HDMI is disabled (enable=0,1)
> 
>> But according your proposal it should be possible to invert the order of
>> how it is initialized - correct?
> 
> I probably would never have figured out on my own to swap 0 and 1.
> https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=954824#c8
> is where it came from. Follow-up to that bug comment begins here:
> https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2015-12/msg00298.html
> 

When I setup the machine I use I read a lot about the issue - the only
proposed work around was to enable/disable.
I played with alsa years ago to understand how it works, but last time I
checked the kernel driver docs I did not find this option. Anyway it is
worth trying. I just do not understand how this indexing works in the
different contexts, but I'll figure out.

>> Now for the setup above perhaps I should change to
> 
>> options snd-hda-intel index=1,0 model=ref enable_msi=1
>> options snd-usb-audio index=2
> 
>> What do you think Mr Miata?
> 
> Sound config makes me crazy, sometimes just working, other times
> impossible to make work, and occasionally working via minimal effort. I
> would have to try your proposal to begin to know what to think. As the
> machine it applies to is this one rather than one of my many test
> installations, and I have no current sound system complaints, I won't be
> disturbing the sleeping dog.
> 

As far as you have good driver it always works. I found out the key is to
tell the machine which is your audio card and which model it has.
Why being so frustrated?
The problem I guess is the variety of audio chips out there, some of which
are really cheep (and bad).
I always check the kernel driver doc - but this also changed recently and
got more confusing (at least the intel part)
I am not afraid of the "sleeping dog" - we are friends.

>> Why should it be related to TDE? I do not think your statement is
>> rectified here. However I did not test anything else.
> 
> I only mentioned TDE because I know Lisi uses it.

Yes, but you are on a public list and your comment is of no favor to TDE,
neither it is related to TDE in any way.

regards

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#165528

FromFelix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
Date2016-03-17 16:40 +0100
Message-ID<rdIbM-Jr-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165523
deloptes composed on 2016-03-17 09:50 (UTC+0100):

> Felix Miata wrote:

>> deloptes composed on 2016-03-17 0:05 (UTC+0100):

>>> Why should it be related to TDE? I do not think your statement is
>>> rectified here. However I did not test anything else.

>> I only mentioned TDE because I know Lisi uses it.

> Yes, but you are on a public list

This isn't a public questions, private responses list, in spite of list 
conformance with idiotic RFC 2822 do-not-munge policy. Private responses do 
not get any benefit from peer review, nor show up in archive searches, where 
they can benefit others than the OPs, among other reasons munging FOSS user 
mailing lists makes more sense than not.

http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-useful.html

> and your comment is of no favor to TDE,  neither it is related to TDE in any way.

Lisi, the OP, is a TDE user with a $SUBJECT, as am I. Thus, our problems 
could very well have a common FOSS root and/or FOSS solution to be assisted 
in determining by some other FOSS list reader. This thread's OP even took the 
trouble to say thank you for my reply.
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

  Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

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#165542

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-17 17:10 +0100
Message-ID<rdIER-1aN-79@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165528
On Thursday 17 March 2016 15:39:26 Felix Miata wrote:
> deloptes composed on 2016-03-17 09:50 (UTC+0100):
> > Felix Miata wrote:
> >> deloptes composed on 2016-03-17 0:05 (UTC+0100):
> >>> Why should it be related to TDE? I do not think your statement is
> >>> rectified here. However I did not test anything else.
> >>
> >> I only mentioned TDE because I know Lisi uses it.
> >
> > Yes, but you are on a public list
>
> This isn't a public questions, private responses list, in spite of list
> conformance with idiotic RFC 2822 do-not-munge policy. Private responses do
> not get any benefit from peer review, nor show up in archive searches,
> where they can benefit others than the OPs, among other reasons munging
> FOSS user mailing lists makes more sense than not.
>
> http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-useful.html
>
> > and your comment is of no favor to TDE,  neither it is related to TDE in
> > any way.
>
> Lisi, the OP, is a TDE user with a $SUBJECT, as am I. Thus, our problems
> could very well have a common FOSS root and/or FOSS solution to be assisted
> in determining by some other FOSS list reader. This thread's OP even took
> the trouble to say thank you for my reply.

Yes, I found it helpful.  I agree that the fact that I use TDE could well have 
been relevant, as is the fact that the whole thing is generically FOSS.  I 
almost included some TDE details from the beginning, but started with the 
obviously Debian ones, and was then going to change list if it looked as 
though TDE was relevant.

We get a lot on the list that is only relevant to GNOME.

Lisi

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#165543

FromRic Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-17 17:30 +0100
Message-ID<rdIYa-1i1-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165542
On 03/17/2016 12:06 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Thursday 17 March 2016 15:39:26 Felix Miata wrote:
>> deloptes composed on 2016-03-17 09:50 (UTC+0100):
>>> Felix Miata wrote:
>>>> deloptes composed on 2016-03-17 0:05 (UTC+0100):
>>>>> Why should it be related to TDE? I do not think your statement is
>>>>> rectified here. However I did not test anything else.
>>>>
>>>> I only mentioned TDE because I know Lisi uses it.
>>>
>>> Yes, but you are on a public list
>>
>> This isn't a public questions, private responses list, in spite of list
>> conformance with idiotic RFC 2822 do-not-munge policy. Private responses do
>> not get any benefit from peer review, nor show up in archive searches,
>> where they can benefit others than the OPs, among other reasons munging
>> FOSS user mailing lists makes more sense than not.
>>
>> http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-useful.html
>>
>>> and your comment is of no favor to TDE,  neither it is related to TDE in
>>> any way.
>>
>> Lisi, the OP, is a TDE user with a $SUBJECT, as am I. Thus, our problems
>> could very well have a common FOSS root and/or FOSS solution to be assisted
>> in determining by some other FOSS list reader. This thread's OP even took
>> the trouble to say thank you for my reply.
>
> Yes, I found it helpful.  I agree that the fact that I use TDE could well have
> been relevant, as is the fact that the whole thing is generically FOSS.

The only stupid question is one not asked, Anyone is free to respond or 
not respond, as long as the question is asked following the norms. Ric


-- 
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html

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#165553

FromCurt <curty@free.fr>
Date2016-03-17 18:50 +0100
Message-ID<rdKdz-1Zz-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165543
On 2016-03-17, Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The only stupid question is one not asked, Anyone is free to respond or 
> not respond, as long as the question is asked following the norms. Ric
>

The only stupid question is one not asked?

-- 
Hypertext--or should I say the ideology of hypertext?--is ultrademocratic and
so entirely in harmony with the demagogic appeals to cultural democracy that
accompany (and distract one’s attention from) the ever-tightening grip of 
plutocratic capitalism. - Susan Sontag

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#165555 — [OT] Questions, was Re: Sound problems

FromDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date2016-03-17 19:30 +0100
Subject[OT] Questions, was Re: Sound problems
Message-ID<rdKQj-2sR-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165553
On Thu 17 Mar 2016 at 17:49:10 (+0000), Curt wrote:
> On 2016-03-17, Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > The only stupid question is one not asked, Anyone is free to respond or 
> > not respond, as long as the question is asked following the norms. Ric
> >
> 
> The only stupid question is one not asked?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_such_thing_as_a_stupid_question

> Hypertext--or should I say the ideology of hypertext?--is ultrademocratic and
> so entirely in harmony with the demagogic appeals to cultural democracy that
> accompany (and distract one’s attention from) the ever-tightening grip of 
> plutocratic capitalism. - Susan Sontag

I remember, back in the days when "programmed learning" was new,
picking up a novel where the chapters were designed to be read
in the order of the reader's own choosing. (Reader's rather than
readers'---I'm sure only the proof-reader ever read the entire book.)
Having flicked through it, my only decision if I bought it would be
to decide, after pulling it apart into its signatures, in which order
to use them as firelighters :)

Cheers,
David.

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#165537

FromAdam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net>
Date2016-03-17 17:10 +0100
Message-ID<rdIEP-1aN-41@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165492
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 16:22:53 +0000 Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I have currently no sound.
> 
> It is an ASROCK N3050B-ITX motherboard with onboard sound with the
> following specifications:
> 
> Chipset  Intel N3050
> Sound Card Type  Realtek ALC887
> Number of Sound Card Channels  7.1
> 
> I have the following information:
> 
> peter@Eros:~$ lspci -nnk | grep udio
> 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:2284]
> (rev 21) peter@Eros:~$ lsmod | grep udio
> peter@Eros:~$ lsmod | grep snd
> snd_seq_dummy          12467  0
> snd_seq                57061  1 snd_seq_dummy
> snd_seq_device         13132  2 snd_seq,snd_seq_dummy
> snd_hda_codec_hdmi     45118  1
> snd_hda_codec_realtek    67127  1
> snd_hda_codec_generic    63181  1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
> snd_hda_intel          26327  5
> snd_hda_controller     26646  1 snd_hda_intel
> snd_hda_codec         104500  5 
> snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
> snd_hwdep              13148  1 snd_hda_codec
> snd_pcm                88662  4 
> snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
> snd_timer              26627  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
> snd                    65244  20 
> snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_seq_device
> soundcore              13026  2 snd,snd_hda_codec
> peter@Eros:~$ aplay -L
> default
>     Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server
> null
>     Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
> pulse
>     PulseAudio Sound Server
> sysdefault:CARD=PCH
>     HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
>     Default Audio Device
> front:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
>     HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
>     Front speakers
> surround21:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
>     HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
>     2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers
> surround40:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
>     HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
>     4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
> surround41:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
>     HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
>     4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
> surround50:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
>     HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
>     5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
> surround51:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
>     HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
>     5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
> surround71:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
>     HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
>     7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer
> speakers hdmi:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
>     HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 0
>     HDMI Audio Output
> hdmi:CARD=PCH,DEV=1
>     HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 1
>     HDMI Audio Output
> hdmi:CARD=PCH,DEV=2
>     HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 2
>     HDMI Audio Output
> dmix:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
>     HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
>     Direct sample mixing device
> dmix:CARD=PCH,DEV=3
>     HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 0
>     Direct sample mixing device
> dmix:CARD=PCH,DEV=7
>     HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 1
>     Direct sample mixing device
> dmix:CARD=PCH,DEV=8
>     HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 2
>     Direct sample mixing device
> dsnoop:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
>     HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
>     Direct sample snooping device
> dsnoop:CARD=PCH,DEV=3
>     HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 0
>     Direct sample snooping device
> dsnoop:CARD=PCH,DEV=7
>     HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 1
>     Direct sample snooping device
> dsnoop:CARD=PCH,DEV=8
>     HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 2
>     Direct sample snooping device
> hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
>     HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
>     Direct hardware device without any conversions
> hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=3
>     HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 0
>     Direct hardware device without any conversions
> hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=7
>     HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 1
>     Direct hardware device without any conversions
> hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=8
>     HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 2
>     Direct hardware device without any conversions
> plughw:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
>     HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Analog
>     Hardware device with all software conversions
> plughw:CARD=PCH,DEV=3
>     HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 0
>     Hardware device with all software conversions
> plughw:CARD=PCH,DEV=7
>     HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 1
>     Hardware device with all software conversions
> plughw:CARD=PCH,DEV=8
>     HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 2
>     Hardware device with all software conversions
> peter@Eros:~$   
> 
> I have installed and tried to adjust pavucontrol, but it doesn't seem
> to see the sound card correctly.

This is probably a silly question, but have you tried alsamixer?

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