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Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

Started byJarle Aase <jgaa@jgaa.com>
First post2016-03-08 07:50 +0100
Last post2016-03-09 00:40 +0100
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  Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? Jarle Aase <jgaa@jgaa.com> - 2016-03-08 07:50 +0100
    Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> - 2016-03-08 09:10 +0100
      Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Jarle Aase <jgaa@jgaa.com> - 2016-03-08 10:50 +0100
        Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> - 2016-03-08 11:00 +0100
          Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Jarle Aase <jgaa@jgaa.com> - 2016-03-08 11:10 +0100
            Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> - 2016-03-08 11:20 +0100
              Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Jarle Aase <jgaa@jgaa.com> - 2016-03-08 11:50 +0100
                Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 12:30 +0100
                  Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-03-08 12:50 +0100
                  Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Jarle Aase <jgaa@jgaa.com> - 2016-03-08 16:00 +0100
                    Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 20:40 +0100
        Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-08 13:10 +0100
          Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-03-08 13:20 +0100
            Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-08 14:30 +0100
              Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Dutch Ingraham <stoa@gmx.us> - 2016-03-08 14:50 +0100
                Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Jarle Aase <jgaa@jgaa.com> - 2016-03-08 16:00 +0100
                  Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2016-03-08 16:30 +0100
                  Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Ron Leach <ronleach@tesco.net> - 2016-03-08 16:30 +0100
                    Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-08 17:40 +0100
                      Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-08 18:20 +0100
                        Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-08 18:30 +0100
                  Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-08 17:20 +0100
                  Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-03-08 21:30 +0100
              Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-03-08 15:20 +0100
                Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-08 16:50 +0100
          Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> - 2016-03-08 14:20 +0100
            Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-08 15:00 +0100
              Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> - 2016-03-08 15:10 +0100
          Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Jarle Aase <jgaa@jgaa.com> - 2016-03-08 16:00 +0100
            Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-08 18:10 +0100
              Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-09 13:40 +0100
                Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Jarle Aase <jgaa@jgaa.com> - 2016-03-09 14:20 +0100
                  Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-10 20:10 +0100
                    Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Jarle Aase <jgaa@jgaa.com> - 2016-03-18 13:50 +0100
                      Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-18 14:30 +0100
                  Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 20:20 +0100
                    Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-03-11 09:30 +0100
                      Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 11:20 +0100
                        Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-03-11 11:50 +0100
                          Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-11 18:40 +0100
                  Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-11 14:10 +0100
                    Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? jdd <jdd@dodin.org> - 2016-03-11 15:30 +0100
                      Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2016-03-11 15:40 +0100
                        Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-11 19:00 +0100
                          Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-11 22:50 +0100
                      Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-11 18:50 +0100
                        Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-03-11 19:50 +0100
                          Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? jdd <jdd@dodin.org> - 2016-03-11 20:20 +0100
                            Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-03-11 21:30 +0100
                              Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-11 23:10 +0100
                                Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-03-12 09:30 +0100
                                  Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? jdd <jdd@dodin.org> - 2016-03-12 10:20 +0100
                                  Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-12 13:10 +0100
                                  Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 13:40 +0100
                                    Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Andrew McGlashan <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au> - 2016-03-12 14:20 +0100
                                  Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 13:50 +0100
                                    Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2016-03-12 14:30 +0100
                                      Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-12 19:50 +0100
                                        Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-12 20:20 +0100
                                          Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-12 21:00 +0100
                                          Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2016-03-12 21:10 +0100
                                            Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-12 21:30 +0100
                                    Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-12 19:50 +0100
                                    Re: Every opportunity taken (Was: Does anyone know how to configure  a Brother MFC...) Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-03-14 17:50 +0100
                                      Re: Every opportunity taken (Was: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC...) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 23:00 +0100
                                        Re: Every opportunity taken (Was: Does anyone know how to configure  a Brother MFC...) Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-03-15 03:50 +0100
                                          Re: Every opportunity taken (Was: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC...) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 08:50 +0100
                                            Re: Every opportunity taken (Was: Does anyone know how to configure a  Brother MFC...) Martin Read <zen75502@zen.co.uk> - 2016-03-15 17:30 +0100
                                              Re: Every opportunity taken (Was: Does anyone know how to configure a  Brother MFC...) doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2016-03-15 20:10 +0100
                                                Re: Every opportunity taken (Was: Does anyone know how to configure  a Brother MFC...) Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-03-15 22:30 +0100
                                                  Re: Every opportunity taken (Was: Does anyone know how to configure a  Brother MFC...) Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 05:00 +0100
                                                Re: Every opportunity taken (Was: Does anyone know how to configure  a Brother MFC...) Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-03-17 17:10 +0100
                                              Re: Every opportunity taken (Was: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC...) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 20:40 +0100
                                                Re: Every opportunity taken (Was: Does anyone know how to configure  a Brother MFC...) Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-03-17 17:10 +0100
                                                  Re: Every opportunity taken (Was: Does anyone know how to configure a  Brother MFC...) Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 17:30 +0100
                                                  Re: Every opportunity taken (Was: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC...) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 21:10 +0100
                                                Re: Every opportunity taken (Was: Does anyone know how to configure a  Brother MFC...) Jarle Aase <jgaa@jgaa.com> - 2016-03-18 14:10 +0100
                                            Re: Every opportunity taken (Was: Does anyone know how to configure  a Brother MFC...) Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-03-17 17:10 +0100
                                    Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-03-14 18:00 +0100
                                  Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-12 19:30 +0100
                                    Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 19:40 +0100
                                      Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-12 20:20 +0100
                                        Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 20:40 +0100
                                    Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-12 20:10 +0100
                                      Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-12 21:10 +0100
                                        Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-12 21:30 +0100
                                          Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-12 21:50 +0100
                              Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? jdd <jdd@dodin.org> - 2016-03-12 08:50 +0100
                                Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-03-13 05:40 +0100
                                  Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? jdd <jdd@dodin.org> - 2016-03-13 09:10 +0100
                                    Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-03-13 20:20 +0100
                                      Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? jdd <jdd@dodin.org> - 2016-03-13 20:30 +0100
                                        Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-13 20:50 +0100
                                          Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? jdd <jdd@dodin.org> - 2016-03-13 22:40 +0100
                                  Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 19:10 +0100
                            Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-11 23:00 +0100
                          Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-12 11:00 +0100
                            Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? jdd <jdd@dodin.org> - 2016-03-12 12:20 +0100
                              Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-12 13:30 +0100
                                Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? jdd <jdd@dodin.org> - 2016-03-12 14:10 +0100
                                  Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-12 14:20 +0100
                            Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-03-13 06:50 +0100
                              Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-13 20:40 +0100
                                Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-03-14 04:50 +0100
                                  Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? jdd <jdd@dodin.org> - 2016-03-14 08:50 +0100
                                    Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-03-14 14:20 +0100
                                      Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? jdd <jdd@dodin.org> - 2016-03-14 15:40 +0100
                                        Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-14 20:40 +0100
                                          Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? jdd <jdd@dodin.org> - 2016-03-14 21:10 +0100
                                            Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-14 21:20 +0100
                                              Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? jdd <jdd@dodin.org> - 2016-03-14 22:50 +0100
                                                Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-03-15 03:40 +0100
                                                  Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? jdd <jdd@dodin.org> - 2016-03-15 08:20 +0100
                                                    Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-03-15 16:10 +0100
                                                      Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? jdd <jdd@dodin.org> - 2016-03-15 16:20 +0100
                                                        Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-03-17 17:10 +0100
                                  Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-14 14:30 +0100
                                    Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-03-15 15:50 +0100
                                      Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-15 20:50 +0100
                                        Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 22:20 +0100
                                          Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-15 23:50 +0100
                                            Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 01:30 +0100
                                              Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-16 04:20 +0100
                                                Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-16 15:20 +0100
                                                  Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-03-16 17:10 +0100
                                                    Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-16 17:20 +0100
                                                      Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-23 21:40 +0100
                                                        Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-24 16:30 +0100
                  Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 18:40 +0100
                    Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Jarle Aase <jgaa@jgaa.com> - 2016-03-18 14:00 +0100
                      Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 14:10 +0100
                        Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-03-18 20:30 +0100
                          Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-03-20 10:10 +0100
                            Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-20 13:30 +0100
                              Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-03-20 15:10 +0100
                                Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-20 15:30 +0100
                                  Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-03-23 10:10 +0100
                                    Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-23 13:30 +0100
                            Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2016-03-21 01:20 +0100
                      Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? jdd <jdd@dodin.org> - 2016-03-18 14:50 +0100
                        Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-03-19 11:50 +0100
    Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 09:10 +0100
    Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Jarle Aase <jgaa@jgaa.com> - 2016-03-08 19:40 +0100
      Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-03-08 21:10 +0100
        Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-08 21:50 +0100
          Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2016-03-09 09:10 +0100
            Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-09 20:30 +0100
      Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with  cups? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-03-09 00:40 +0100

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#165446 — Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2016-03-15 23:50 +0100
SubjectRe: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?
Message-ID<rd5WN-66-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165442
On Tue 15 Mar 2016 at 21:16:14 +0000, Lisi Reisz wrote:

> On Tuesday 15 March 2016 19:40:07 Brian wrote:
> >
> > Gene Haskett has an HL-3170CDW, which he now knows does AirPrint. I
> > believe he is someone who is up for a challenge. Compared with flooded
> > basements, lightning strikes, falling trees and power cuts this is small
> > beer. If he is amenable he could
> >
> > 1. Install avahi-daemon and avahi-utils.
> >
> > 2. Do
> >
> >     avahi-browse -art > discovered
> >
> > and post the file "discovered" here. Then we might progress.
> >
> > Your printer cannot deal with files sent directly from an iOS device.
> > Through the mediation of Debian CUPS it can.
> 
> But in order to do it, he would have to install Jessie, would he not?  And I 
> don't think he has a spare computer on which to do so. :-(

To use avahi-daemon to pick up Bonjour broadcasts? No.

If I am wrong it takes five minutes on Wheezy to find out.

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#165450

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-16 01:30 +0100
Message-ID<rd7vA-1cf-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165446
On Tuesday 15 March 2016 22:48:33 Brian wrote:
> On Tue 15 Mar 2016 at 21:16:14 +0000, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Tuesday 15 March 2016 19:40:07 Brian wrote:
> > > Gene Haskett has an HL-3170CDW, which he now knows does AirPrint. I
> > > believe he is someone who is up for a challenge. Compared with flooded
> > > basements, lightning strikes, falling trees and power cuts this is
> > > small beer. If he is amenable he could
> > >
> > > 1. Install avahi-daemon and avahi-utils.
> > >
> > > 2. Do
> > >
> > >     avahi-browse -art > discovered
> > >
> > > and post the file "discovered" here. Then we might progress.
> > >
> > > Your printer cannot deal with files sent directly from an iOS device.
> > > Through the mediation of Debian CUPS it can.
> >
> > But in order to do it, he would have to install Jessie, would he not? 
> > And I don't think he has a spare computer on which to do so. :-(
>
> To use avahi-daemon to pick up Bonjour broadcasts? No.
>
> If I am wrong it takes five minutes on Wheezy to find out.

Over to you, Gene?? :-)

Lisi

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#165455

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2016-03-16 04:20 +0100
Message-ID<rdaa5-31Q-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165450
On Tuesday 15 March 2016 20:20:25 Lisi Reisz wrote:

> On Tuesday 15 March 2016 22:48:33 Brian wrote:
> > On Tue 15 Mar 2016 at 21:16:14 +0000, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 15 March 2016 19:40:07 Brian wrote:
> > > > Gene Haskett has an HL-3170CDW, which he now knows does
> > > > AirPrint. I believe he is someone who is up for a challenge.
> > > > Compared with flooded basements, lightning strikes, falling
> > > > trees and power cuts this is small beer. If he is amenable he
> > > > could
> > > >
> > > > 1. Install avahi-daemon and avahi-utils.
> > > >
> > > > 2. Do
> > > >
> > > >     +   eth0 IPv4 Brother HL-3170CDW series                     
PDL Printer          local


> > > >
> > > > and post the file "discovered" here. Then we might progress.
> > > >
> > > > Your printer cannot deal with files sent directly from an iOS
> > > > device. Through the mediation of Debian CUPS it can.
> > >
> > > But in order to do it, he would have to install Jessie, would he
> > > not? And I don't think he has a spare computer on which to do so.
> > > :-(
> >
> > To use avahi-daemon to pick up Bonjour broadcasts? No.
> >
> > If I am wrong it takes five minutes on Wheezy to find out.
>
> Over to you, Gene?? :-)
>
> Lisi

Gluttons for punishment eh?  Remember, you did ask for it :(  And nothu
ing has been excised.

+   eth0 IPv4 Brother HL-3170CDW series                     PDL Printer          
local
+   eth0 IPv4 Brother HL-3170CDW series                     UNIX Printer         
local
+   eth0 IPv4 Brother HL-3170CDW series                     Internet 
Printer     local
+   eth0 IPv4 Brother HL-3170CDW series                     Web Site             
local
=   eth0 IPv4 Brother HL-3170CDW series                     PDL Printer          
local
   hostname = [BRN001BA9E3811F.local]
   address = [192.168.71.20]
   port = [9100]
   txt = 
["UUID=e3248000-80ce-11db-8000-001ba9e3811f" "TBCP=T" "Transparent=F" "Binary=T" "PaperCustom=T" "Scan=F" "Duplex=T" "Copies=T" "Color=T" "usb_CMD=PJL,PCL,PCLXL,URF" "usb_MDL=HL-3170CDW 
series" "usb_MFG=Brother" "priority=75" "adminurl=http://BRN001BA9E3811F.local./net/net/airprint.html" "product=(Brother 
HL-3170CDW series)" "ty=Brother HL-3170CDW 
series" "note=" "pdl=application/octet-stream,image/urf" "qtotal=1" "txtvers=1"]
=   eth0 IPv4 Brother HL-3170CDW series                     UNIX Printer         
local
   hostname = [BRN001BA9E3811F.local]
   address = [192.168.71.20]
   port = [515]
   txt = 
["UUID=e3248000-80ce-11db-8000-001ba9e3811f" "TBCP=F" "Transparent=T" "Binary=T" "PaperCustom=T" "Scan=F" "Duplex=T" "Copies=T" "Color=T" "usb_CMD=PJL,PCL,PCLXL,URF" "usb_MDL=HL-3170CDW 
series" "usb_MFG=Brother" "priority=50" "adminurl=http://BRN001BA9E3811F.local./net/net/airprint.html" "product=(Brother 
HL-3170CDW series)" "ty=Brother HL-3170CDW 
series" "note=" "rp=duerqxesz5090" "pdl=application/octet-stream,image/urf" "qtotal=1" "txtvers=1"]
+   eth0 IPv6 BROTHER HL-2140 @ coyote                      Internet 
Printer     local
+   eth0 IPv6 coyote                                        Remote Disk 
Management local
+   eth0 IPv6 coyote                                        _nut._tcp            
local
+   eth0 IPv6 coyote [00:1f:c6:62:fc:bb]                    Workstation          
local
+   eth0 IPv6 Network_printer @ coyote                      Internet 
Printer     local
+   eth0 IPv6 HL3170CDW @ coyote                            Internet 
Printer     local
+   eth0 IPv6 Cups-PDF @ coyote                             Internet 
Printer     local
+   eth0 IPv6 EPSON Epson Stylus NX510 @ coyote             Internet 
Printer     local
+   eth0 IPv4 BROTHER HL-2140 @ coyote                      Internet 
Printer     local
+   eth0 IPv4 coyote                                        Remote Disk 
Management local
+   eth0 IPv4 coyote                                        _nut._tcp            
local
+   eth0 IPv4 coyote [00:1f:c6:62:fc:bb]                    Workstation          
local
+   eth0 IPv4 Network_printer @ coyote                      Internet 
Printer     local
+   eth0 IPv4 Cups-PDF @ coyote                             Internet 
Printer     local
+   eth0 IPv4 HL3170CDW @ coyote                            Internet 
Printer     local
+   eth0 IPv4 EPSON Epson Stylus NX510 @ coyote             Internet 
Printer     local
=   eth0 IPv6 BROTHER HL-2140 @ coyote                      Internet 
Printer     local
   hostname = [coyote.local]
   address = [fe80::21f:c6ff:fe62:fcbb]
   port = [631]
   txt = 
["printer-type=0x80B016" "printer-state=3" "Scan=F" "Sort=F" "Bind=F" "Punch=F" "Collate=F" "Copies=F" "Staple=F" "Duplex=T" "Color=F" "Fax=F" "Binary=F" "Transparent=F" "TLS=1.2" "UUID=78436bff-0096-3f61-74ca-4f910e8f38d9" "URF=DM3" "pdl=application/octet-stream,application/pdf,application/postscript,image/jpeg,image/png,image/urf" "product=(HL-2140 
series)" "priority=0" "note=coyote.coyote.den" "adminurl=http://coyote.local:631/printers/BROTHEHL2140" "ty=Brother 
HL-2140 Foomatic/hpijs-pcl5e 
(recommended)" "rp=printers/BROTHEHL2140" "qtotal=1" "txtvers=1"]
=   eth0 IPv6 coyote                                        Remote Disk 
Management local
   hostname = [coyote.local]
   address = [fe80::21f:c6ff:fe62:fcbb]
   port = [22]
   txt = []
=   eth0 IPv6 coyote                                        _nut._tcp            
local
   hostname = [coyote.local]
   address = [fe80::21f:c6ff:fe62:fcbb]
   port = [3493]
   txt = []
=   eth0 IPv6 coyote [00:1f:c6:62:fc:bb]                    Workstation          
local
   hostname = [coyote.local]
   address = [fe80::21f:c6ff:fe62:fcbb]
   port = [9]
   txt = []
=   eth0 IPv6 Network_printer @ coyote                      Internet 
Printer     local
   hostname = [coyote.local]
   address = [fe80::21f:c6ff:fe62:fcbb]
   port = [631]
   txt = 
["printer-type=0x80104E" "printer-state=3" "Scan=F" "Sort=F" "Bind=F" "Punch=F" "Collate=F" "Copies=T" "Staple=F" "Duplex=F" "Color=T" "Fax=F" "Binary=F" "Transparent=F" "TLS=1.2" "UUID=09e344db-0fad-351f-7f98-bc54083c8491" "URF=DM3" "pdl=application/octet-stream,application/pdf,application/postscript,image/jpeg,image/png,image/urf" "product=(HL-3170CDW 
series)" "priority=0" "note=coyote.den" "adminurl=http://coyote.local:631/printers/Network_printer" "ty=Brother 
HL-3170CDW series 
CUPS" "rp=printers/Network_printer" "qtotal=1" "txtvers=1"]
=   eth0 IPv6 HL3170CDW @ coyote                            Internet 
Printer     local
   hostname = [coyote.local]
   address = [fe80::21f:c6ff:fe62:fcbb]
   port = [631]
   txt = 
["printer-type=0x80104E" "printer-state=3" "Scan=F" "Sort=F" "Bind=F" "Punch=F" "Collate=F" "Copies=T" "Staple=F" "Duplex=F" "Color=T" "Fax=F" "Binary=F" "Transparent=F" "TLS=1.2" "UUID=99042303-a50c-3af4-448b-dc5a87c079d6" "URF=DM3" "pdl=application/octet-stream,application/pdf,application/postscript,image/jpeg,image/png,image/urf" "product=(HL-3170CDW 
series)" "priority=0" "note=" "adminurl=http://coyote.local:631/printers/HL3170CDW" "ty=Brother 
HL-3170CDW series CUPS" "rp=printers/HL3170CDW" "qtotal=1" "txtvers=1"]
=   eth0 IPv6 Cups-PDF @ coyote                             Internet 
Printer     local
   hostname = [coyote.local]
   address = [fe80::21f:c6ff:fe62:fcbb]
   port = [631]
   txt = 
["printer-type=0x800006" "printer-state=3" "Scan=F" "Sort=F" "Bind=F" "Punch=F" "Collate=F" "Copies=F" "Staple=F" "Duplex=F" "Color=F" "Fax=F" "Binary=F" "Transparent=F" "TLS=1.2" "UUID=7bd75430-c139-351f-7ee6-e41e67e2f1a5" "URF=DM3" "pdl=application/octet-stream,application/pdf,application/postscript,image/jpeg,image/png,image/pwg-raster,image/urf" "product=Unknown" "priority=0" "note=coyote.coyote.den" "adminurl=http://coyote.local:631/printers/Cups-PDF" "ty=Generic 
CUPS-PDF Printer" "rp=printers/Cups-PDF" "qtotal=1" "txtvers=1"]
=   eth0 IPv4 BROTHER HL-2140 @ coyote                      Internet 
Printer     local
   hostname = [coyote.local]
   address = [192.168.71.3]
   port = [631]
   txt = 
["printer-type=0x80B016" "printer-state=3" "Scan=F" "Sort=F" "Bind=F" "Punch=F" "Collate=F" "Copies=F" "Staple=F" "Duplex=T" "Color=F" "Fax=F" "Binary=F" "Transparent=F" "TLS=1.2" "UUID=78436bff-0096-3f61-74ca-4f910e8f38d9" "URF=DM3" "pdl=application/octet-stream,application/pdf,application/postscript,image/jpeg,image/png,image/urf" "product=(HL-2140 
series)" "priority=0" "note=coyote.coyote.den" "adminurl=http://coyote.local:631/printers/BROTHEHL2140" "ty=Brother 
HL-2140 Foomatic/hpijs-pcl5e 
(recommended)" "rp=printers/BROTHEHL2140" "qtotal=1" "txtvers=1"]
=   eth0 IPv4 coyote                                        Remote Disk 
Management local
   hostname = [coyote.local]
   address = [192.168.71.3]
   port = [22]
   txt = []
=   eth0 IPv4 coyote                                        _nut._tcp            
local
   hostname = [coyote.local]
   address = [192.168.71.3]
   port = [3493]
   txt = []
=   eth0 IPv4 coyote [00:1f:c6:62:fc:bb]                    Workstation          
local
   hostname = [coyote.local]
   address = [192.168.71.3]
   port = [9]
   txt = []
=   eth0 IPv4 Network_printer @ coyote                      Internet 
Printer     local
   hostname = [coyote.local]
   address = [192.168.71.3]
   port = [631]
   txt = 
["printer-type=0x80104E" "printer-state=3" "Scan=F" "Sort=F" "Bind=F" "Punch=F" "Collate=F" "Copies=T" "Staple=F" "Duplex=F" "Color=T" "Fax=F" "Binary=F" "Transparent=F" "TLS=1.2" "UUID=09e344db-0fad-351f-7f98-bc54083c8491" "URF=DM3" "pdl=application/octet-stream,application/pdf,application/postscript,image/jpeg,image/png,image/urf" "product=(HL-3170CDW 
series)" "priority=0" "note=coyote.den" "adminurl=http://coyote.local:631/printers/Network_printer" "ty=Brother 
HL-3170CDW series 
CUPS" "rp=printers/Network_printer" "qtotal=1" "txtvers=1"]
=   eth0 IPv4 Cups-PDF @ coyote                             Internet 
Printer     local
   hostname = [coyote.local]
   address = [192.168.71.3]
   port = [631]
   txt = 
["printer-type=0x800006" "printer-state=3" "Scan=F" "Sort=F" "Bind=F" "Punch=F" "Collate=F" "Copies=F" "Staple=F" "Duplex=F" "Color=F" "Fax=F" "Binary=F" "Transparent=F" "TLS=1.2" "UUID=7bd75430-c139-351f-7ee6-e41e67e2f1a5" "URF=DM3" "pdl=application/octet-stream,application/pdf,application/postscript,image/jpeg,image/png,image/pwg-raster,image/urf" "product=Unknown" "priority=0" "note=coyote.coyote.den" "adminurl=http://coyote.local:631/printers/Cups-PDF" "ty=Generic 
CUPS-PDF Printer" "rp=printers/Cups-PDF" "qtotal=1" "txtvers=1"]
=   eth0 IPv4 HL3170CDW @ coyote                            Internet 
Printer     local
   hostname = [coyote.local]
   address = [192.168.71.3]
   port = [631]
   txt = 
["printer-type=0x80104E" "printer-state=3" "Scan=F" "Sort=F" "Bind=F" "Punch=F" "Collate=F" "Copies=T" "Staple=F" "Duplex=F" "Color=T" "Fax=F" "Binary=F" "Transparent=F" "TLS=1.2" "UUID=99042303-a50c-3af4-448b-dc5a87c079d6" "URF=DM3" "pdl=application/octet-stream,application/pdf,application/postscript,image/jpeg,image/png,image/urf" "product=(HL-3170CDW 
series)" "priority=0" "note=" "adminurl=http://coyote.local:631/printers/HL3170CDW" "ty=Brother 
HL-3170CDW series CUPS" "rp=printers/HL3170CDW" "qtotal=1" "txtvers=1"]
+   eth0 IPv6 shop [38:60:77:4e:38:1b]                      Workstation          
local
+   eth0 IPv6 shop                                          Remote Disk 
Management local
+   eth0 IPv4 shop [38:60:77:4e:38:1b]                      Workstation          
local
+   eth0 IPv4 shop                                          Remote Disk 
Management local
=   eth0 IPv6 shop [38:60:77:4e:38:1b]                      Workstation          
local
   hostname = [shop.local]
   address = [fe80::3a60:77ff:fe4e:381b]
   port = [9]
   txt = []
=   eth0 IPv6 shop                                          Remote Disk 
Management local
   hostname = [shop.local]
   address = [fe80::3a60:77ff:fe4e:381b]
   port = [22]
   txt = []
=   eth0 IPv4 shop [38:60:77:4e:38:1b]                      Workstation          
local
   hostname = [shop.local]
   address = [192.168.71.4]
   port = [9]
   txt = []
=   eth0 IPv4 shop                                          Remote Disk 
Management local
   hostname = [shop.local]
   address = [192.168.71.4]
   port = [22]
   txt = []
+   eth0 IPv6 lathe [38:60:77:cd:f3:2f]                     Workstation          
local
+   eth0 IPv6 lathe                                         Remote Disk 
Management local
=   eth0 IPv6 lathe [38:60:77:cd:f3:2f]                     Workstation          
local
   hostname = [lathe.local]
   address = [fe80::3a60:77ff:fecd:f32f]
   port = [9]
   txt = []
+   eth0 IPv4 lathe [38:60:77:cd:f3:2f]                     Workstation          
local
+   eth0 IPv4 lathe                                         Remote Disk 
Management local
=   eth0 IPv6 lathe                                         Remote Disk 
Management local
   hostname = [lathe.local]
   address = [fe80::3a60:77ff:fecd:f32f]
   port = [22]
   txt = []
=   eth0 IPv4 lathe [38:60:77:cd:f3:2f]                     Workstation          
local
   hostname = [lathe.local]
   address = [192.168.71.5]
   port = [9]
   txt = []
=   eth0 IPv4 lathe                                         Remote Disk 
Management local
   hostname = [lathe.local]
   address = [192.168.71.5]
   port = [22]
   txt = []
+   eth0 IPv6 GO704 [00:1a:a0:a7:a8:d4]                     Workstation          
local
+   eth0 IPv6 GO704                                         Remote Disk 
Management local
+   eth0 IPv4 GO704 [00:1a:a0:a7:a8:d4]                     Workstation          
local
+   eth0 IPv4 GO704                                         Remote Disk 
Management local
=   eth0 IPv6 GO704 [00:1a:a0:a7:a8:d4]                     Workstation          
local
   hostname = [GO704.local]
   address = [fe80::21a:a0ff:fea7:a8d4]
   port = [9]
   txt = []
=   eth0 IPv6 GO704                                         Remote Disk 
Management local
   hostname = [GO704.local]
   address = [fe80::21a:a0ff:fea7:a8d4]
   port = [22]
   txt = []
=   eth0 IPv4 GO704 [00:1a:a0:a7:a8:d4]                     Workstation          
local
   hostname = [GO704.local]
   address = [192.168.71.10]
   port = [9]
   txt = []
=   eth0 IPv4 GO704                                         Remote Disk 
Management local
   hostname = [GO704.local]
   address = [192.168.71.10]
   port = [22]
   txt = []
=   eth0 IPv4 EPSON Epson Stylus NX510 @ coyote             Internet 
Printer     local
   hostname = [coyote.local]
   address = [192.168.71.3]
   port = [631]
   txt = 
["printer-type=0x100E" "printer-state=5" "Scan=F" "Sort=F" "Bind=F" "Punch=F" "Collate=F" "Copies=F" "Staple=F" "Duplex=F" "Color=T" "Fax=F" "Binary=F" "Transparent=F" "TLS=1.2" "UUID=f14f765a-eabb-3fb8-7907-c8c8e726bbe9" "URF=DM3" "pdl=application/octet-stream,application/pdf,application/postscript,image/jpeg,image/png,image/urf" "product=(Inkjet 
Printer)" "priority=0" "note=coyote" "adminurl=http://coyote.local:631/printers/Epson-Stylus-NX510" "ty=Epson 
Stylus NX510, Epson Inkjet Printer Driver (ESC/P-R) for 
Linux" "rp=printers/Epson-Stylus-NX510" "qtotal=1" "txtvers=1"]
=   eth0 IPv6 EPSON Epson Stylus NX510 @ coyote             Internet 
Printer     local
   hostname = [coyote.local]
   address = [fe80::21f:c6ff:fe62:fcbb]
   port = [631]
   txt = 
["printer-type=0x100E" "printer-state=5" "Scan=F" "Sort=F" "Bind=F" "Punch=F" "Collate=F" "Copies=F" "Staple=F" "Duplex=F" "Color=T" "Fax=F" "Binary=F" "Transparent=F" "TLS=1.2" "UUID=f14f765a-eabb-3fb8-7907-c8c8e726bbe9" "URF=DM3" "pdl=application/octet-stream,application/pdf,application/postscript,image/jpeg,image/png,image/urf" "product=(Inkjet 
Printer)" "priority=0" "note=coyote" "adminurl=http://coyote.local:631/printers/Epson-Stylus-NX510" "ty=Epson 
Stylus NX510, Epson Inkjet Printer Driver (ESC/P-R) for 
Linux" "rp=printers/Epson-Stylus-NX510" "qtotal=1" "txtvers=1"]
=   eth0 IPv4 Brother HL-3170CDW series                     Internet 
Printer     local
   hostname = [BRN001BA9E3811F.local]
   address = [192.168.71.20]
   port = [631]
   txt = 
["UUID=e3248000-80ce-11db-8000-001ba9e3811f" "URF=SRGB24,W8,CP1,IS1-4,MT1-3-4-5-8-11,OB10,PQ4-5,RS600,DM1" "TBCP=F" "Transparent=T" "Binary=T" "PaperCustom=T" "Scan=F" "Duplex=T" "Copies=T" "Color=T" "usb_CMD=PJL,PCL,PCLXL,URF" "usb_MDL=HL-3170CDW 
series" "usb_MFG=Brother" "priority=25" "adminurl=http://BRN001BA9E3811F.local./net/net/airprint.html" "product=(Brother 
HL-3170CDW series)" "ty=Brother HL-3170CDW 
series" "note=" "rp=ipp/printer" "pdl=application/octet-stream,image/urf" "qtotal=1" "txtvers=1"]
=   eth0 IPv4 Brother HL-3170CDW series                     Web Site             
local
   hostname = [BRN001BA9E3811F.local]
   address = [192.168.71.20]
   port = [80]
   txt = []

========================================

Now, I note 3 instances of "airprint.html" up there that because it 
didn't mean squat to me until now, I didn't recognize or know I needed 
to remember.

But it would take quite some calesthentics to get to it and test it as 
I'd have to go ethernet to the router, enable the radio in the router in 
bridged mode, opening my whole system to the outside world with a radio, 
or install a linux compatible card in this machine whose pci slots are 
already full.  Tain't gonna happen IOW.  Plus it opens up (IMO) a 
security hole I am not going to open & leave available to anybody 
driving by with a sniffer.

I highly recommend that anyone comtemplating enabling the radio just to 
talk to the printer, to change the c block address from 0 or 1 to some 
other roll of the dice just to obscure it somewhat from prying eyes, and 
incorporate into their IPTables rules blocking ANY incoming traffic that 
does NOT come from the printers assigned address.  Thats just good 
common sense, hiding in plain sight.  But you are not in fact hidden 
from the black hats, they can drive by and make you out in 5 seconds or 
less.  For instance never ever broadcast your SSID, make them guess it, 
and the longer the better. An absolute minimum of 30 characters.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#165476 — Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2016-03-16 15:20 +0100
SubjectRe: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?
Message-ID<rdksP-1C9-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165455
On Tue 15 Mar 2016 at 23:18:30 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:

> Gluttons for punishment eh?  Remember, you did ask for it :(  And nothu
> ing has been excised.

Uncut outputs are always the best. Thank you very much.

[Useful avahi-browse record snipped to save bandwidth]

> Now, I note 3 instances of "airprint.html" up there that because it 
> didn't mean squat to me until now, I didn't recognize or know I needed 
> to remember.

http://BRN001BA9E3811F.local./net/net/airprint.html is the location of
the printer's embedded web interface. Without avahi-daemon I expect you
would use http://192.168.71.20:80.

We'll work with the PDL printer:

  =   eth0 IPv4 Brother HL-3170CDW series  PDL Printer  local
     hostname = [BRN001BA9E3811F.local]
     address = [192.168.71.20]
     port = [9100]
     txt = ["UUID=e3248000-80ce-11db-8000-001ba9e3811f"
           "TBCP=T"
           "Transparent=F"
           "Binary=T"
           "PaperCustom=T"
           "Scan=F"
           "Duplex=T"
           "Copies=T"
           "Color=T"
           "usb_CMD=PJL,PCL,PCLXL,URF"
           "usb_MDL=HL-3170CDW series"
           "usb_MFG=Brother"
           "priority=75"
           "adminurl=http://BRN001BA9E3811F.local./net/net/airprint.html"
           "product=(Brother HL-3170CDW series)"
           "ty=Brother HL-3170CDW series"
           "note="
           "pdl=application/octet-stream,image/urf"
           "qtotal=1"
           "txtvers=1"]

Now find a *small* PDF file and send it directly to the printer with
netcat:

  nc 192.168.71.20 9100 < file.pdf

or

  nc BRN001BA9E3811F.local < file.pdf

Does it print?

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#165488

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2016-03-16 17:10 +0100
Message-ID<rdmbh-2Nj-37@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165476
On Wednesday 16 March 2016 10:12:59 Brian wrote:

> On Tue 15 Mar 2016 at 23:18:30 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Gluttons for punishment eh?  Remember, you did ask for it :(  And
> > nothu ing has been excised.
>
> Uncut outputs are always the best. Thank you very much.
>
> [Useful avahi-browse record snipped to save bandwidth]
>
> > Now, I note 3 instances of "airprint.html" up there that because it
> > didn't mean squat to me until now, I didn't recognize or know I
> > needed to remember.
>
> http://BRN001BA9E3811F.local./net/net/airprint.html is the location of
> the printer's embedded web interface. Without avahi-daemon I expect
> you would use http://192.168.71.20:80.
>
> We'll work with the PDL printer:
>
>   =   eth0 IPv4 Brother HL-3170CDW series  PDL Printer  local
>      hostname = [BRN001BA9E3811F.local]
>      address = [192.168.71.20]
>      port = [9100]
>      txt = ["UUID=e3248000-80ce-11db-8000-001ba9e3811f"
>            "TBCP=T"
>            "Transparent=F"
>            "Binary=T"
>            "PaperCustom=T"
>            "Scan=F"
>            "Duplex=T"
>            "Copies=T"
>            "Color=T"
>            "usb_CMD=PJL,PCL,PCLXL,URF"
>            "usb_MDL=HL-3170CDW series"
>            "usb_MFG=Brother"
>            "priority=75"
>           
> "adminurl=http://BRN001BA9E3811F.local./net/net/airprint.html"
> "product=(Brother HL-3170CDW series)"
>            "ty=Brother HL-3170CDW series"
>            "note="
>            "pdl=application/octet-stream,image/urf"
>            "qtotal=1"
>            "txtvers=1"]
>
> Now find a *small* PDF file and send it directly to the printer with
> netcat:
>
>   nc 192.168.71.20 9100 < file.pdf
>
> or
>
>   nc BRN001BA9E3811F.local < file.pdf
>
> Does it print?

Doesn't look like it:

gene@coyote:~/Downloads$ nc BRN001BA9E3811F.local <7i77_layout.pdf 
no port[s] to connect to
gene@coyote:~/Downloads$ nc 192.168.71.20 < 7i77_layout.pdf 
no port[s] to connect to


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#165489 — Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2016-03-16 17:20 +0100
SubjectRe: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?
Message-ID<rdmkW-2QE-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165488
On Wed 16 Mar 2016 at 12:06:40 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:

> On Wednesday 16 March 2016 10:12:59 Brian wrote:
> 
> > Now find a *small* PDF file and send it directly to the printer with
> > netcat:
> >
> >   nc 192.168.71.20 9100 < file.pdf
> >
> > or
> >
> >   nc BRN001BA9E3811F.local < file.pdf
> >
> > Does it print?
> 
> Doesn't look like it:
> 
> gene@coyote:~/Downloads$ nc BRN001BA9E3811F.local <7i77_layout.pdf 
> no port[s] to connect to
> gene@coyote:~/Downloads$ nc 192.168.71.20 < 7i77_layout.pdf 
> no port[s] to connect to

Haven't you omitted the port to connect to? Just like I did for one of
the lines above. :(. Apologies.

  nc 192.168.71.20 9100 < 7i77_layout.pdf
                   ^^^^

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#165882 — Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2016-03-23 21:40 +0100
SubjectRe: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?
Message-ID<rfXJo-n8-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165489
On Wed 16 Mar 2016 at 16:14:47 +0000, Brian wrote:

> On Wed 16 Mar 2016 at 12:06:40 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> 
> > On Wednesday 16 March 2016 10:12:59 Brian wrote:
> > 
> > > Now find a *small* PDF file and send it directly to the printer with
> > > netcat:
> > >
> > >   nc 192.168.71.20 9100 < file.pdf
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > >   nc BRN001BA9E3811F.local < file.pdf
> > >
> > > Does it print?
> > 
> > Doesn't look like it:
> > 
> > gene@coyote:~/Downloads$ nc BRN001BA9E3811F.local <7i77_layout.pdf 
> > no port[s] to connect to
> > gene@coyote:~/Downloads$ nc 192.168.71.20 < 7i77_layout.pdf 
> > no port[s] to connect to
> 
> Haven't you omitted the port to connect to? Just like I did for one of
> the lines above. :(. Apologies.
> 
>   nc 192.168.71.20 9100 < 7i77_layout.pdf
>                    ^^^^

It is a pity this correction to a simple command was not made and the
outcome described. The txt record for the printer has

  pdl=application/octet-stream,image/urf"

PDFs will not print. I own up to spreading misinformation if I implied
they would.

I now have the use of an HP AirPrint enabled printer (a 4200 series
printer). The MIME types which are supported by this printer are

  pdl=application/vnd.hp-PCL,image/jpeg,application/PCLm,image/urf

The only thing the printers have in common is image/urf.

I have changed my mind about the AirPrint capabilty on his printer being
a route to avoid using a proprietary driver. If Jarle Aase is printing
now it is through the agency of the Brother .deb packages.  

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#165913 — Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2016-03-24 16:30 +0100
SubjectRe: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?
Message-ID<rgfmW-4w7-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165882
On Wed 23 Mar 2016 at 20:31:31 +0000, Brian wrote:

>   pdl=application/octet-stream,image/urf"
> 
> PDFs will not print. I own up to spreading misinformation if I implied
> they would.

I stated that an iOS device sends PDFs and then went on to deduce that the
printer performs some conversion to something the printer can print. As
you said

  > So you appear to be saying that what passes through the AirPrint
  > wire or wifi link is a PDF. The printer then converts it to BUL,
  > then raster.

You were right to prod me because the statement about PDFs definitely
being passed from device to printer in all circumstances is incorrect.
The deduction is also false.

Suppose the printer advertises

  pdl=application/vnd.hp-PCL,application/pdf.image/jpeg,image/urf

as mime types it accepts. In that case the printer is a PDF printer and
it will print a PDF directly sent to it. image/urf is an obligatory mime
type for AirPrint. So what does an iOS application send? My guess is
that the application knows it can send application/pdf or image/urf and
sends application/pdf because it is first in the list. The PDF is
rasterised on the printer.

If

  pdl=application/vnd.hp-PCL,image/jpeg,image/urf

there is only the choice of image/urf. urf is a raster format which will
be rasterised to the printer's language on the printer.

Having stressed the importance of Bonjour broadcasts a few times I went
on (in pursuit of solving a problem) to ignore the role they play on the
client side.

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#165245

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-11 18:40 +0100
Message-ID<rbzcC-1f1-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165181
On Wednesday 09 March 2016 13:16:20 Jarle Aase wrote:
> Den 09. mars 2016 14:27, skrev Brian:
> > In another mail Jarle Aase said: > I think this printer supports both
> > pcl and postscript. Faint alarm bells sounded in my head - inkjet,
> > inkjet, inkjet. I ignored the warning; after all he was surely in
> > possession of a manual and would know the printer capabilities. The
> > CUPS filter chain produces a file to be sent to the printer which is
> > identified as "data", not PostScript or PCL. Installing the two
> > Brother .deb files (a five minute job) seems to be the only way for
> > printing to take place.
>
> My plan is to install the Brother drivers in a virtual machine. When
> that works, I can use wireshark to see what's actually being sent to the
> printer, and decide if I want to do something to make it work on the
> "real" machine.

I have been reading this thread a bit at a time.  I am bemused.  Why, if you 
want life simple, and Free, etc., go for an AIO, which are notoriously 
troublesome?  Why not go for a simple Brother laser printer?  (If you want 
Brother.)

Lisi

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#165572 — Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

FromJarle Aase <jgaa@jgaa.com>
Date2016-03-18 14:00 +0100
SubjectRe: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?
Message-ID<re2au-5Vd-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165245

Den 11. mars 2016 19:36, skrev Lisi Reisz:
> I have been reading this thread a bit at a time.  I am bemused.  Why, if you
> want life simple, and Free, etc., go for an AIO, which are notoriously
> troublesome?  Why not go for a simple Brother laser printer?  (If you want
> Brother.)
>
Actually, I need scanning more frequently than I need printing. The 
scanner works perfectly without any proprietary software on my PC. I 
have still not printed anything.

Jarle

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#165574

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-18 14:10 +0100
Message-ID<re2kb-6eM-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165572
On Friday 18 March 2016 12:55:26 Jarle Aase wrote:
> Den 11. mars 2016 19:36, skrev Lisi Reisz:
> > I have been reading this thread a bit at a time.  I am bemused.  Why, if
> > you want life simple, and Free, etc., go for an AIO, which are
> > notoriously troublesome?  Why not go for a simple Brother laser printer? 
> > (If you want Brother.)
>
> Actually, I need scanning more frequently than I need printing. The
> scanner works perfectly without any proprietary software on my PC. I
> have still not printed anything.

So have two separate objects?  That is what I do - because I like a simple 
life.

Lisi

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#165587

FromDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date2016-03-18 20:30 +0100
Message-ID<re8fV-661-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165574
On Fri 18 Mar 2016 at 13:03:52 (+0000), Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Friday 18 March 2016 12:55:26 Jarle Aase wrote:
> > Den 11. mars 2016 19:36, skrev Lisi Reisz:
> > > I have been reading this thread a bit at a time.  I am bemused.  Why, if
> > > you want life simple, and Free, etc., go for an AIO, which are
> > > notoriously troublesome?  Why not go for a simple Brother laser printer? 
> > > (If you want Brother.)
> >
> > Actually, I need scanning more frequently than I need printing. The
> > scanner works perfectly without any proprietary software on my PC. I
> > have still not printed anything.
> 
> So have two separate objects?  That is what I do - because I like a simple 
> life.

Scanning is pretty easy nowadays, I find. Years ago it was the other
way. With PDF printers, printing was straightforward. Scanning meant
putting the paper on the machine, pressing the button, then clicking
some buttons on the attached computer to accept the file, repeating
all that over and over, then converting the files from some
proprietary rubbish into something I could actually use. When it
worked. (Scanners were very unreliable, frequently broken, often in
use by someone else.)

Now, most scanners can scan to a stick in various formats. Though I
*can* drive the scanner from a computer, what's the point. Somebody's
got to feed the machine, even if it's only loading the ADF.
I have found it possible to get scans off the stick from the computer
(without taking it out of the scanner), but I don't usually bother.

Fortunately this scanner works even when the ink has run out, unlike
the k0d*k abomination we once had.

Cheers,
David.

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#165670 — Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

FromAdam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net>
Date2016-03-20 10:10 +0100
SubjectRe: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?
Message-ID<reHx0-4Gv-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165587

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On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 14:20:03 -0500
David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:

> On Fri 18 Mar 2016 at 13:03:52 (+0000), Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Friday 18 March 2016 12:55:26 Jarle Aase wrote:  
> > > Den 11. mars 2016 19:36, skrev Lisi Reisz:  
> > > > I have been reading this thread a bit at a time.  I am
> > > > bemused.  Why, if you want life simple, and Free, etc., go for
> > > > an AIO, which are notoriously troublesome?  Why not go for a
> > > > simple Brother laser printer? (If you want Brother.)  
> > >
> > > Actually, I need scanning more frequently than I need printing.
> > > The scanner works perfectly without any proprietary software on
> > > my PC. I have still not printed anything.  
> > 
> > So have two separate objects?  That is what I do - because I like a
> > simple life.  
> 
> Scanning is pretty easy nowadays, I find. Years ago it was the other
> way.

So what made printing so much worse?

Saying that in the past, vice versa was the case, implies that not only
has scanning got easier, but also that printing has got harder.

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#165679 — Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2016-03-20 13:30 +0100
SubjectRe: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?
Message-ID<reKEx-6Rq-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165670
On Sun 20 Mar 2016 at 12:08:02 +0300, Adam Wilson wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 14:20:03 -0500
> David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri 18 Mar 2016 at 13:03:52 (+0000), Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > On Friday 18 March 2016 12:55:26 Jarle Aase wrote:  
> > > > Den 11. mars 2016 19:36, skrev Lisi Reisz:  
> > > > > I have been reading this thread a bit at a time.  I am
> > > > > bemused.  Why, if you want life simple, and Free, etc., go for
> > > > > an AIO, which are notoriously troublesome?  Why not go for a
> > > > > simple Brother laser printer? (If you want Brother.)  
> > > >
> > > > Actually, I need scanning more frequently than I need printing.
> > > > The scanner works perfectly without any proprietary software on
> > > > my PC. I have still not printed anything.  
> > > 
> > > So have two separate objects?  That is what I do - because I like a
> > > simple life.  
> > 
> > Scanning is pretty easy nowadays, I find. Years ago it was the other
> > way.
> 
> So what made printing so much worse?
> 
> Saying that in the past, vice versa was the case, implies that not only
> has scanning got easier, but also that printing has got harder.

It hasn't got worse. There are very few complaints on this list about
printing being problematic. Overall, the experience of most Linux users
is a positive one. The contraining condition imposed by the OP may make
printing look hard but it is a perception only.

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#165688 — Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

FromAdam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net>
Date2016-03-20 15:10 +0100
SubjectRe: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?
Message-ID<reMdk-7Y4-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165679

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On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 12:19:55 +0000
Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun 20 Mar 2016 at 12:08:02 +0300, Adam Wilson wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 14:20:03 -0500
> > David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:
> >   
> > > On Fri 18 Mar 2016 at 13:03:52 (+0000), Lisi Reisz wrote:  
> > > > On Friday 18 March 2016 12:55:26 Jarle Aase wrote:    
> > > > > Den 11. mars 2016 19:36, skrev Lisi Reisz:    
> > > > > > I have been reading this thread a bit at a time.  I am
> > > > > > bemused.  Why, if you want life simple, and Free, etc., go
> > > > > > for an AIO, which are notoriously troublesome?  Why not go
> > > > > > for a simple Brother laser printer? (If you want
> > > > > > Brother.)    
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually, I need scanning more frequently than I need
> > > > > printing. The scanner works perfectly without any proprietary
> > > > > software on my PC. I have still not printed anything.    
> > > > 
> > > > So have two separate objects?  That is what I do - because I
> > > > like a simple life.    
> > > 
> > > Scanning is pretty easy nowadays, I find. Years ago it was the
> > > other way.  
> > 
> > So what made printing so much worse?
> > 
> > Saying that in the past, vice versa was the case, implies that not
> > only has scanning got easier, but also that printing has got
> > harder.  
> 
> It hasn't got worse. There are very few complaints on this list about
> printing being problematic. Overall, the experience of most Linux
> users is a positive one. The contraining

Constraining?

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#165691 — Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2016-03-20 15:30 +0100
SubjectRe: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?
Message-ID<reMwG-86p-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165688
On Sun 20 Mar 2016 at 17:08:11 +0300, Adam Wilson wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 12:19:55 +0000
> Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun 20 Mar 2016 at 12:08:02 +0300, Adam Wilson wrote:
> > 
> > > On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 14:20:03 -0500
> > > David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:
> > >   
> > > > On Fri 18 Mar 2016 at 13:03:52 (+0000), Lisi Reisz wrote:  
> > > > > On Friday 18 March 2016 12:55:26 Jarle Aase wrote:    
> > > > > > Den 11. mars 2016 19:36, skrev Lisi Reisz:    
> > > > > > > I have been reading this thread a bit at a time.  I am
> > > > > > > bemused.  Why, if you want life simple, and Free, etc., go
> > > > > > > for an AIO, which are notoriously troublesome?  Why not go
> > > > > > > for a simple Brother laser printer? (If you want
> > > > > > > Brother.)    
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Actually, I need scanning more frequently than I need
> > > > > > printing. The scanner works perfectly without any proprietary
> > > > > > software on my PC. I have still not printed anything.    
> > > > > 
> > > > > So have two separate objects?  That is what I do - because I
> > > > > like a simple life.    
> > > > 
> > > > Scanning is pretty easy nowadays, I find. Years ago it was the
> > > > other way.  
> > > 
> > > So what made printing so much worse?
> > > 
> > > Saying that in the past, vice versa was the case, implies that not
> > > only has scanning got easier, but also that printing has got
> > > harder.  
> > 
> > It hasn't got worse. There are very few complaints on this list about
> > printing being problematic. Overall, the experience of most Linux
> > users is a positive one. The contraining
> 
> Constraining?

An adjective.

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#165861 — Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

FromAdam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net>
Date2016-03-23 10:10 +0100
SubjectRe: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?
Message-ID<rfMXF-1bN-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165691

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On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 14:26:25 +0000
Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun 20 Mar 2016 at 17:08:11 +0300, Adam Wilson wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 12:19:55 +0000
> > Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
> >   
> > > On Sun 20 Mar 2016 at 12:08:02 +0300, Adam Wilson wrote:
> > >   
> > > > On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 14:20:03 -0500
> > > > David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:
> > > >     
> > > > > On Fri 18 Mar 2016 at 13:03:52 (+0000), Lisi Reisz wrote:    
> > > > > > On Friday 18 March 2016 12:55:26 Jarle Aase wrote:      
> > > > > > > Den 11. mars 2016 19:36, skrev Lisi Reisz:      
> > > > > > > > I have been reading this thread a bit at a time.  I am
> > > > > > > > bemused.  Why, if you want life simple, and Free, etc.,
> > > > > > > > go for an AIO, which are notoriously troublesome?  Why
> > > > > > > > not go for a simple Brother laser printer? (If you want
> > > > > > > > Brother.)      
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Actually, I need scanning more frequently than I need
> > > > > > > printing. The scanner works perfectly without any
> > > > > > > proprietary software on my PC. I have still not printed
> > > > > > > anything.      
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So have two separate objects?  That is what I do - because I
> > > > > > like a simple life.      
> > > > > 
> > > > > Scanning is pretty easy nowadays, I find. Years ago it was the
> > > > > other way.    
> > > > 
> > > > So what made printing so much worse?
> > > > 
> > > > Saying that in the past, vice versa was the case, implies that
> > > > not only has scanning got easier, but also that printing has got
> > > > harder.    
> > > 
> > > It hasn't got worse. There are very few complaints on this list
> > > about printing being problematic. Overall, the experience of most
> > > Linux users is a positive one. The contraining  
> > 
> > Constraining?  
> 
> An adjective.

You wrote "contraining". I was asking whether you meant "constraining",
or whether "contraining" was some specialised technical vocabulary used
to describe an implied inverse correlation between two historical
trends.

"Constraining" it is.

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#165866 — Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2016-03-23 13:30 +0100
SubjectRe: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?
Message-ID<rfQ5d-3jc-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165861
On Mon 21 Mar 2016 at 07:28:07 +0300, Adam Wilson wrote:

> You wrote "contraining". I was asking whether you meant "constraining",
> or whether "contraining" was some specialised technical vocabulary used
> to describe an implied inverse correlation between two historical
> trends.
> 
> "Constraining" it is.

Each time I looked at the word I saw an 's' in it; amazing what the
brain tells you! :) Thanks.

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#165738

FromDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date2016-03-21 01:20 +0100
Message-ID<reVJE-68W-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165670
On Sun 20 Mar 2016 at 12:08:02 (+0300), Adam Wilson wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 14:20:03 -0500
> David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri 18 Mar 2016 at 13:03:52 (+0000), Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > On Friday 18 March 2016 12:55:26 Jarle Aase wrote:  
> > > > Den 11. mars 2016 19:36, skrev Lisi Reisz:  
> > > > > I have been reading this thread a bit at a time.  I am
> > > > > bemused.  Why, if you want life simple, and Free, etc., go for
> > > > > an AIO, which are notoriously troublesome?  Why not go for a
> > > > > simple Brother laser printer? (If you want Brother.)  
> > > >
> > > > Actually, I need scanning more frequently than I need printing.
> > > > The scanner works perfectly without any proprietary software on
> > > > my PC. I have still not printed anything.  
> > > 
> > > So have two separate objects?  That is what I do - because I like a
> > > simple life.  
> > 
> > Scanning is pretty easy nowadays, I find. Years ago it was the other
> > way.
> 
> So what made printing so much worse?
> 
> Saying that in the past, vice versa was the case, implies that not only
> has scanning got easier, but also that printing has got harder.

I should have written "Personally,..."
It's back in the thread: when I had a real job, I was surrounded by
PDF printers of many flavours, and there were one or two scanners
which were tedious to use whatever platform you were on.
When I left, battle commenced on two fronts: buying (already
recounted) and using printers (too tedious to recount), so it got
much harder for a while.

Cheers,
David.

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#165577 — Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

Fromjdd <jdd@dodin.org>
Date2016-03-18 14:50 +0100
SubjectRe: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?
Message-ID<re2WS-6vz-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165572
Le 18/03/2016 13:55, Jarle Aase a écrit :

> Actually, I need scanning more frequently than I need printing. The
> scanner works perfectly without any proprietary software on my PC. I
> have still not printed anything.
>

scanner are for free nowaday (second hand), I even have an unused one :-)

jdd

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