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  Inferior sound quality Himanshu Shekhar <irm2015006@iiita.ac.in> - 2016-02-23 18:50 +0100
    Re: Inferior sound quality Pete Orrall <pete@cs1x.com> - 2016-02-23 19:50 +0100
      Re: Inferior sound quality Himanshu Shekhar <irm2015006@iiita.ac.in> - 2016-02-23 20:00 +0100
        Re: Inferior sound quality Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> - 2016-02-23 20:40 +0100
          Re: Inferior sound quality Himanshu Shekhar <irm2015006@iiita.ac.in> - 2016-02-23 21:00 +0100
            Re: Inferior sound quality Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> - 2016-02-23 22:20 +0100
      Re: Inferior sound quality Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 20:10 +0100
    Re: Inferior sound quality Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2016-02-23 22:10 +0100
      Re: Inferior sound quality Himanshu Shekhar <irm2015006@iiita.ac.in> - 2016-02-24 06:40 +0100
        Re: Inferior sound quality Johann Spies <johann.spies@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 08:20 +0100
          Re: Inferior sound quality Himanshu Shekhar <irm2015006@iiita.ac.in> - 2016-03-13 11:30 +0100

#164565 — Inferior sound quality

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My sound card is Intel Broadwell HD audio for Dell Inspirion 15 3543.
The sound quality on Debian Jessie seemed to be okay to me (I use Rhythmbox
as music player, and VLC occasionally).
Today, I used Windows for a while, and experienced far better and more
dynamic sound quality on same earphone and for the same track (Rolling in
the Deep :P).

I have both alsamixer and pulseaudio installed.
Can anyone help me out to improve sound quality?

Regards
Himanshu Shekhar

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#164568

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Himanshu Shekhar
<irm2015006@iiita.ac.in> wrote:
> My sound card is Intel Broadwell HD audio for Dell Inspirion 15 3543.
> The sound quality on Debian Jessie seemed to be okay to me (I use Rhythmbox
> as music player, and VLC occasionally).
> Today, I used Windows for a while, and experienced far better and more
> dynamic sound quality on same earphone and for the same track (Rolling in
> the Deep :P).

Hi Himanshu,

Can you please provide more info regarding the Windows music app?  Do
you have any plugins or EQ enabled?

Thanks and I look forward to hearing from you.

-- 
Pete Orrall
pete@cs1x.com
www.peteorrall.com
"If there isn't a way, I'll make one."

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On Feb 24, 2016 12:12 AM, "Pete Orrall" <pete@cs1x.com> wrote:
>

> Can you please provide more info regarding the Windows music app?  Do
> you have any plugins or EQ enabled?
>
> Thanks and I look forward to hearing from you.

I tried Windows Media Player. All I have extra is Dell Audio (downloaded
from Dell driver center). No plugin or EQ.
I would rather like to know, how to use EQ for Linux. :)

Well, I tried using the same Dell Audio software I had once on Ubuntu that
came pre-installed with the laptop, from Dell Ubuntu PPA (download the deb,
named dell-wmi-dkms and manually install). However, the installation failed
for dell-wmi on Jessie.

> --
> Pete Orrall
> pete@cs1x.com
> www.peteorrall.com
> "If there isn't a way, I'll make one."

Regards,
Himanshu Shekhar

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On Wed, 2016-02-24 at 00:20 +0530, Himanshu Shekhar wrote:
> I tried Windows Media Player. All I have extra is Dell Audio
> (downloaded
> from Dell driver center). No plugin or EQ.
> I would rather like to know, how to use EQ for Linux. :)

I think Windows Media Player is using this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_Retrieval_System

-- 
Cheers,
Sven Arvidsson
http://www.whiz.se
PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5

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On Feb 24, 2016 1:05 AM, "Sven Arvidsson" <sa@whiz.se> wrote:
>
> I think Windows Media Player is using this?
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_Retrieval_System
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Sven Arvidsson
> http://www.whiz.se
> PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5
>

SRS settings are by default disabled, and in my case too.
Is it due to hardware drivers or something else?

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On Wed, 2016-02-24 at 01:26 +0530, Himanshu Shekhar wrote:
> SRS settings are by default disabled, and in my case too.
> Is it due to hardware drivers or something else?

Okay, if we can rule that out I would figure out exactly what sound
chip your hardware's got and see if there are any known issues. It
might be that jessie is too old.

This looks like a good start: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/HDAGeneric

It might just be easier to get a live cd/usb with the latest kernel and
latest alsa and see if there's any difference. 

-- 
Cheers,
Sven Arvidsson
http://www.whiz.se
PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5

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#164571

On 02/23/2016 01:42 PM, Pete Orrall wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Himanshu Shekhar
> <irm2015006@iiita.ac.in> wrote:
>> My sound card is Intel Broadwell HD audio for Dell Inspirion 15 3543.
>> The sound quality on Debian Jessie seemed to be okay to me (I use Rhythmbox
>> as music player, and VLC occasionally).
>> Today, I used Windows for a while, and experienced far better and more
>> dynamic sound quality on same earphone and for the same track (Rolling in
>> the Deep :P).
>
> Hi Himanshu,
>
> Can you please provide more info regarding the Windows music app?  Do
> you have any plugins or EQ enabled?
>
> Thanks and I look forward to hearing from you.

VLC has many presets to choose from regarding "audio quality". Or, you 
can manually set filters that mix audio. Just go to tools/effects and
filters. Have fun! Ric

-- 
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html

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#164580

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 11:15:07PM +0530, Himanshu Shekhar wrote:
> My sound card is Intel Broadwell HD audio for Dell Inspirion 15 3543.
> The sound quality on Debian Jessie seemed to be okay to me (I use Rhythmbox
> as music player, and VLC occasionally).
> Today, I used Windows for a while, and experienced far better and more
> dynamic sound quality on same earphone and for the same track (Rolling in
> the Deep :P).
> 
> I have both alsamixer and pulseaudio installed.
> Can anyone help me out to improve sound quality?
> 
> Regards
> Himanshu Shekhar



O boy!
music is such a subjective topic which is hard to quantify.
Usually soundcards expect the information to be presented as PCM.
That is a digital representation of the analog sound information.
However your music files are most likely MP3 or some other format. The
conversion of these file formats to PCM is done in sofware. MP3 specially
still has some patent issues which means that most likely the conversion in
free software is different than in propietary software.
Another possibility is that the windows software automatically applies a
"profile" during the conversion based on the type of music (equalizer
functionality). That can lead to the perception this music is "more
dynamic".
I would say you should try an equalizer on linux and see if you can shape
your music output more to your liking.

-H


-- 
Henning Follmann           | hfollmann@itcfollmann.com

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The soundcard is Realtek ALC3234 with Waves MaxxVoice.
That's what Dell says Inspiron 15 3543 Specifications
http://downloads.dell.com/manuals/all-products/esuprt_laptop/esuprt_inspiron_laptop/inspiron-15-3543-laptop_reference%20guide_en-us.pdf

On Feb 24, 2016 2:55 AM, "anonymous" <johnandsara2@cox.net> wrote:

>>
>
> uh huh.  and so you dont have a fully code leverage (leveraging hardware
let alone sound/movie use of it) of your soundcard...
>
> where is your soundcard from?  malaysia?
>

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#164588

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Banshee has got an equaliser with a few useful presets. I do not have
access to Windows, but I found that using different presets or adjusting
the equaliser makes a marked difference in sound quality.

Johann


-- 
Because experiencing your loyal love is better than life itself,
my lips will praise you.  (Psalm 63:3)

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After making some random hits, I finally landed on Clementine. It is one of
the best music players I've experienced so far and it gives me perfect feel
of the beats after little change in settings.
Thanks for support!


Regards
Himanshu Shekhar

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Johann Spies <johann.spies@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Banshee has got an equaliser with a few useful presets. I do not have
> access to Windows, but I found that using different presets or adjusting
> the equaliser makes a marked difference in sound quality.
>
> Johann
>
>
> --
> Because experiencing your loyal love is better than life itself,
> my lips will praise you.  (Psalm 63:3)
>

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