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iceweasel now firefox-esr?

Started byDale Harris <rodmur@gmail.com>
First post2016-03-12 06:40 +0100
Last post2016-03-12 11:40 +0100
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  iceweasel now firefox-esr? Dale Harris <rodmur@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 06:40 +0100
    Re: iceweasel now firefox-esr? Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> - 2016-03-12 08:50 +0100
      Re: iceweasel now firefox-esr? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-03-12 11:20 +0100
        Re: iceweasel now firefox-esr? Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> - 2016-03-12 11:50 +0100
      Re: iceweasel now firefox-esr? Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2016-03-13 11:00 +0100
        Re: iceweasel now firefox-esr? Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> - 2016-03-13 11:10 +0100
    Re: iceweasel now firefox-esr? Andrew McGlashan <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au> - 2016-03-12 11:10 +0100
      Re: iceweasel now firefox-esr? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2016-03-12 11:20 +0100
        Re: iceweasel now firefox-esr? Tony van der Hoff <tony@vanderhoff.org> - 2016-03-12 11:40 +0100

#165259 — iceweasel now firefox-esr?

FromDale Harris <rodmur@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-12 06:40 +0100
Subjecticeweasel now firefox-esr?
Message-ID<rbKro-1eA-1@gated-at.bofh.it>

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Huh, why is iceweasel installing firefox-esr now and not even putting
in a sym. link from iceweasel to firefox?



-- 
Dale Harris
rodmur@maybe.org
rodmur@gmail.com
/.-)

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#165261

FromSven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se>
Date2016-03-12 08:50 +0100
Message-ID<rbMtb-2Fi-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Sat, 2016-03-12 at 00:37 -0500, Dale Harris wrote:
> Huh, why is iceweasel installing firefox-esr now and not even putting
> in a sym. link from iceweasel to firefox?

Iceweasel is no more, read the changelog. 

If you think it should install a symlink, file a bug.

-- 
Cheers,
Sven Arvidsson
http://www.whiz.se
PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5

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#165267

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2016-03-12 11:20 +0100
Message-ID<rbOOl-4pF-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165261
On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 08:44:43 +0100
Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> wrote:

> On Sat, 2016-03-12 at 00:37 -0500, Dale Harris wrote:
> > Huh, why is iceweasel installing firefox-esr now and not even
> > putting in a sym. link from iceweasel to firefox?  
> 
> Iceweasel is no more, read the changelog. 
> 
> If you think it should install a symlink, file a bug.
> 

After a routine upgrade (which did *not* raise a changelog notice), any
menu entries which reference iceweasel are now broken, with the user
being left to fix them. I'd say that was a bug.

-- 
Joe

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#165269

FromSven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se>
Date2016-03-12 11:50 +0100
Message-ID<rbPhn-4E8-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Sat, 2016-03-12 at 10:11 +0000, Joe wrote:
> After a routine upgrade (which did *not* raise a changelog notice),
> any
> menu entries which reference iceweasel are now broken, with the user
> being left to fix them. I'd say that was a bug.

There was a NEWS file, so should have been picked up by apt-
listchanges.

Anyway, looks like bugs have already been filed.

-- 
Cheers,
Sven Arvidsson
http://www.whiz.se
PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5

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#165327

FromWeaver <weaver@riseup.net>
Date2016-03-13 11:00 +0100
Message-ID<rcaYy-3T4-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165261
On 2016-03-12 17:44, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> On Sat, 2016-03-12 at 00:37 -0500, Dale Harris wrote:
>> Huh, why is iceweasel installing firefox-esr now and not even putting
>> in a sym. link from iceweasel to firefox?
> 
> Iceweasel is no more, read the changelog. 

Aside from an advisory a read in the general news a week prior, with no 
schedule attached, there was no notification. The update itself, listed 
'Iceweasel'.
> 
> If you think it should install a symlink, file a bug.

There's much more than a symlink involved.
The installation happened on two machines: on the laptop, it failed to 
find the main bookmark menu, and as that was the first update, that went 
west. I backed up the bookmarks file on the PC, but it found that.

Regarding symlinks (multiple), there's nothing to link www-browser, or 
dochelp, and probably others. I'm still checking. But it definitely 
doesn't like Liferea, either, even after reinstalling RSS links.
Cheers!

Weaver
-- 
"It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its  
government."
  -- Thomas Paine

Registered Linux User: 554515

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#165328

FromSven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se>
Date2016-03-13 11:10 +0100
Message-ID<rcb8d-4dl-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Sun, 2016-03-13 at 19:53 +1000, Weaver wrote:
> There's much more than a symlink involved.
> The installation happened on two machines: on the laptop, it failed
> to 
> find the main bookmark menu, and as that was the first update, that
> went 
> west. I backed up the bookmarks file on the PC, but it found that.
> 
> Regarding symlinks (multiple), there's nothing to link www-browser,
> or 
> dochelp, and probably others. I'm still checking. But it definitely 
> doesn't like Liferea, either, even after reinstalling RSS links.
> Cheers!

There was a NEWS entry, so it should have been picked up by apt-
listchanges, but maybe that entry should have been in the iceweasel
package instead I'm not sure.

Anyway, file bugs, or help writing the release notes so others doesn't
get bitten by the same things.

Changes like these are part of the joy of using unstable :)

-- 
Cheers,
Sven Arvidsson
http://www.whiz.se
PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5

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#165265

FromAndrew McGlashan <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au>
Date2016-03-12 11:10 +0100
Message-ID<rbOEH-4lo-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165259

On 12/03/2016 4:37 PM, Dale Harris wrote:
> Huh, why is iceweasel installing firefox-esr now and not even putting
> in a sym. link from iceweasel to firefox?

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3036509/linux/iceweasel-will-be-renamed-firefox-as-relations-between-debian-and-mozilla-thaw.html

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#165266

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2016-03-12 11:20 +0100
Message-ID<rbOOl-4pF-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165265
On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 21:04:52 +1100
Andrew McGlashan <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au> wrote:

> On 12/03/2016 4:37 PM, Dale Harris wrote:
> > Huh, why is iceweasel installing firefox-esr now and not even
> > putting in a sym. link from iceweasel to firefox?  
> 
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/3036509/linux/iceweasel-will-be-renamed-firefox-as-relations-between-debian-and-mozilla-thaw.html
> 

We knew it was going to happen, we did not expect to have to repair
broken links when it did.

-- 
Joe

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#165268

FromTony van der Hoff <tony@vanderhoff.org>
Date2016-03-12 11:40 +0100
Message-ID<rbP7I-4zU-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#165266
On 12/03/16 10:13, Joe wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 21:04:52 +1100
> Andrew McGlashan <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au> wrote:
>
>> On 12/03/2016 4:37 PM, Dale Harris wrote:
>>> Huh, why is iceweasel installing firefox-esr now and not even
>>> putting in a sym. link from iceweasel to firefox?
>>
>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/3036509/linux/iceweasel-will-be-renamed-firefox-as-relations-between-debian-and-mozilla-thaw.html
>>
>
> We knew it was going to happen, we did not expect to have to repair
> broken links when it did.
>

Presumably it's not coming to Jessie? (yet)

If you're using Testing, then you shouldn't be beyond fixing a few symlinks.

But, certainly a bug.

-- 
Tony van der Hoff        | mailto:tony@vanderhoff.org
Buckinghamshire, England |

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