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Problem w. browser when running on SSD

Started byHugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com>
First post2016-07-07 05:10 +0200
Last post2016-07-11 20:20 +0200
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  Problem w. browser when running on SSD Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com> - 2016-07-07 05:10 +0200
    Re: Problem w. browser when running on SSD Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-07-07 09:00 +0200
      Re: Problem w. browser when running on SSD Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com> - 2016-07-08 04:00 +0200
    Re: Problem w. browser when running on SSD Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> - 2016-07-07 13:40 +0200
      Re: Problem w. browser when running on SSD Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com> - 2016-07-08 04:30 +0200
    Re: Problem w. browser when running on SSD Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2016-07-07 14:30 +0200
      Re: Problem w. browser when running on SSD Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com> - 2016-07-08 04:50 +0200
        Re: Problem w. browser when running on SSD Norbert Kiszka <norbert@linux.pl> - 2016-07-11 20:20 +0200

#169819 — Problem w. browser when running on SSD

FromHugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com>
Date2016-07-07 05:10 +0200
SubjectProblem w. browser when running on SSD
Message-ID<rS7Ro-1dr-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
Greetings everybody,

This is a newly installed Sid system that has 2 Samsung HD502HJ disks of 
500GB and a Samsung SSD830 of 128GB.

It has 2 graphics cards, Model:"nVidia G98 [GeForce 8400 GS Rev. 2]".

The reason it is a new install is because I have for years run the 
NVidia closed source driver but they dropped support for these cards to 
Legacy-940.96, which has problems with the Sid level of the kernel and 
the gcc compiler.
So I tried to purge the NVidia driver and install nouveau, but was 
unable to do so. So I did a new install which installed nouveau when I 
installed xorg. It looks and behaves just the way NVidia used to.

I usually run on the HD502HJ disks but wanted to see how this new 
install would run on the SSD830, so I ran a copy of the new system on 
that disk.

I run google-chrome-beta as browser and never have any problems on the 
HD502HJ. But on the SSD830 I was getting lots of not responding 
applications that had to be killed and not responding plugin. It made 
the system unusable.

The only difference between the 2 systems is the disk on which they run.

I have tried to google for this error but was not too successful. The 
moment you enter 'nouveau' as a search term it thinks I am a French speaker.

Has anybody ever come across this strange behavior? What do you suggest?

Hugo.

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#169826

FromFelix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
Date2016-07-07 09:00 +0200
Message-ID<rSbrX-3oi-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#169819
Hugo Vanwoerkom composed on 2016-07-06 22:06 (UTC-0500):

> This is a newly installed Sid system that has 2 Samsung HD502HJ disks of
> 500GB and a Samsung SSD830 of 128GB.

> It has 2 graphics cards, Model:"nVidia G98 [GeForce 8400 GS Rev. 2]".
...
> I have tried to google for this error but was not too successful. The
> moment you enter 'nouveau' as a search term it thinks I am a French speaker.

> Has anybody ever come across this strange behavior? What do you suggest?

Firefox-esr 45.0.2 works for me in Jessie using a G98, but I'm not using 
either the nouveau or nvidia Xorg drivers. With neither installed, Xorg wants 
to automatically use the modeset driver, which in Sid is integral to the Xorg 
server. If your WM/DE doesn't depend on 3D support from the driver, you could 
try uninstalling the nouveau driver to rule it out as a cause of the errors.
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

  Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

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#169866

FromHugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com>
Date2016-07-08 04:00 +0200
Message-ID<rStfb-6t5-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#169826
Felix Miata wrote:
> Hugo Vanwoerkom composed on 2016-07-06 22:06 (UTC-0500):
> 
>> This is a newly installed Sid system that has 2 Samsung HD502HJ disks of
>> 500GB and a Samsung SSD830 of 128GB.
> 
>> It has 2 graphics cards, Model:"nVidia G98 [GeForce 8400 GS Rev. 2]".
> ...
>> I have tried to google for this error but was not too successful. The
>> moment you enter 'nouveau' as a search term it thinks I am a French 
>> speaker.
> 
>> Has anybody ever come across this strange behavior? What do you suggest?
> 
> Firefox-esr 45.0.2 works for me in Jessie using a G98, but I'm not using 
> either the nouveau or nvidia Xorg drivers. With neither installed, Xorg 
> wants to automatically use the modeset driver, which in Sid is integral 
> to the Xorg server. If your WM/DE doesn't depend on 3D support from the 
> driver, you could try uninstalling the nouveau driver to rule it out as 
> a cause of the errors.

That is a great idea. I had not thought of that. Thanks Felix.

Hugo

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#169832

FromSven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se>
Date2016-07-07 13:40 +0200
Message-ID<rSfOW-6im-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#169819

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On Wed, 2016-07-06 at 22:06 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Greetings everybody,
> 
> This is a newly installed Sid system that has 2 Samsung HD502HJ disks
> of 
> 500GB and a Samsung SSD830 of 128GB.
> 
> It has 2 graphics cards, Model:"nVidia G98 [GeForce 8400 GS Rev. 2]".
> 
> The reason it is a new install is because I have for years run the 
> NVidia closed source driver but they dropped support for these cards
> to 
> Legacy-940.96, which has problems with the Sid level of the kernel
> and 
> the gcc compiler.
> So I tried to purge the NVidia driver and install nouveau, but was 
> unable to do so. So I did a new install which installed nouveau when
> I 
> installed xorg. It looks and behaves just the way NVidia used to.
> 
> I usually run on the HD502HJ disks but wanted to see how this new 
> install would run on the SSD830, so I ran a copy of the new system
> on 
> that disk.
> 
> I run google-chrome-beta as browser and never have any problems on
> the 
> HD502HJ. But on the SSD830 I was getting lots of not responding 
> applications that had to be killed and not responding plugin. It
> made 
> the system unusable.
> 
> The only difference between the 2 systems is the disk on which they
> run.
> 
> I have tried to google for this error but was not too successful.
> The 
> moment you enter 'nouveau' as a search term it thinks I am a French
> speaker.
> 
> Has anybody ever come across this strange behavior? What do you
> suggest?
> 
> Hugo.

Your reasoning is a bit hard to follow. If the only difference is the
SSD why do you suspect the graphics card at all?

What exactly is the problem, is it something that is specific to Google
Chrome?


-- 
Cheers,
Sven Arvidsson
http://www.whiz.se

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#169868

FromHugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com>
Date2016-07-08 04:30 +0200
Message-ID<rStIe-6ZF-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#169832
Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> On Wed, 2016-07-06 at 22:06 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
>> Greetings everybody,
>>
>> This is a newly installed Sid system that has 2 Samsung HD502HJ disks
>> of 
>> 500GB and a Samsung SSD830 of 128GB.
>>
>> It has 2 graphics cards, Model:"nVidia G98 [GeForce 8400 GS Rev. 2]".
>>
>> The reason it is a new install is because I have for years run the 
>> NVidia closed source driver but they dropped support for these cards
>> to 
>> Legacy-940.96, which has problems with the Sid level of the kernel
>> and 
>> the gcc compiler.
>> So I tried to purge the NVidia driver and install nouveau, but was 
>> unable to do so. So I did a new install which installed nouveau when
>> I 
>> installed xorg. It looks and behaves just the way NVidia used to.
>>
>> I usually run on the HD502HJ disks but wanted to see how this new 
>> install would run on the SSD830, so I ran a copy of the new system
>> on 
>> that disk.
>>
>> I run google-chrome-beta as browser and never have any problems on
>> the 
>> HD502HJ. But on the SSD830 I was getting lots of not responding 
>> applications that had to be killed and not responding plugin. It
>> made 
>> the system unusable.
>>
>> The only difference between the 2 systems is the disk on which they
>> run.
>>
>> I have tried to google for this error but was not too successful.
>> The 
>> moment you enter 'nouveau' as a search term it thinks I am a French
>> speaker.
>>
>> Has anybody ever come across this strange behavior? What do you
>> suggest?
>>
>> Hugo.
> 
> Your reasoning is a bit hard to follow. If the only difference is the
> SSD why do you suspect the graphics card at all?
> 
> What exactly is the problem, is it something that is specific to Google
> Chrome?
> 

I'm sorry for the faulty reasoning Sven. I do not suspect the graphics 
card, but have doubts about nouveau. This is the first time with nouveau 
on the SSD. I was there before, but with NVidia closed source drivers 
and I don't remember these sort of problems. But Felix has given a good 
idea to see whether nouveau is at fault.

I only use Google-Chrome and it sometimes puts up a screen when an 
application does not respond anymore and asks whether they should wait 
longer or kill it now. In this case I was getting those screens very 
frequently so that the browser was unusable. Also there were screens 
that the plugin had become unresponsive, should that be killed.

I never see those on the HD502HJ's.

Hugo

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#169833

FromJörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de>
Date2016-07-07 14:30 +0200
Message-ID<rSgBk-6Qy-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#169819
Where does the google-chrome-beta store its temporary files? If it has any?

I'm happily using firefox in testing/sid. It uses the .mozilla profile folder in
my $HOME on an SSD and a mozilla directory for caching some files which via the
XDG_CACHE_HOME environment variable is located in /tmp which in turn resides in RAM.

Regards,
jvp.

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#169869

FromHugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com>
Date2016-07-08 04:50 +0200
Message-ID<rSu1z-76m-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#169833
Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
> Where does the google-chrome-beta store its temporary files? If it has any?
> 
> I'm happily using firefox in testing/sid. It uses the .mozilla profile folder in
> my $HOME on an SSD and a mozilla directory for caching some files which via the
> XDG_CACHE_HOME environment variable is located in /tmp which in turn resides in RAM.
> 

Google chrome uses a Default folder in the users .config folder for 
temporary files and settings.

Hugo

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#169995

FromNorbert Kiszka <norbert@linux.pl>
Date2016-07-11 20:20 +0200
Message-ID<rTNYd-2cE-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#169869
Dnia 2016-07-07, czw o godzinie 21:48 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom pisze:
> Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
> > Where does the google-chrome-beta store its temporary files? If it has any?
> > 
> > I'm happily using firefox in testing/sid. It uses the .mozilla profile folder in
> > my $HOME on an SSD and a mozilla directory for caching some files which via the
> > XDG_CACHE_HOME environment variable is located in /tmp which in turn resides in RAM.
> > 
> 
> Google chrome uses a Default folder in the users .config folder for 
> temporary files and settings.
> 
> Hugo
> 


Nope. It was in older versions. Now is in .config and .cache

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