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  Re: Plasma5: After Update right click on desktop not working any more Bob Weber <bobrweber@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 18:20 +0200
    Re: Re: Plasma5: After Update right click on desktop not working any more Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2016-07-06 18:20 +0200
      Re: Plasma5: After Update right click on desktop not working any  more Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2016-07-06 18:40 +0200
        Re: Plasma5: After Update right click on desktop not working any more Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2016-07-06 19:20 +0200
          Re: Plasma5: After Update right click on desktop not working any  more Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2016-07-06 19:50 +0200
            Re: Plasma5: After Update right click on desktop not working any more Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2016-07-06 20:10 +0200
              Re: Plasma5: After Update right click on desktop not working any  more Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2016-07-06 20:30 +0200
                Re: Plasma5: After Update right click on desktop not working any more Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2016-07-06 20:50 +0200
                  Re: Plasma5: After Update right click on desktop not working any  more Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2016-07-06 21:20 +0200
                    Re: Plasma5: After Update right click on desktop not working any more Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2016-07-06 21:30 +0200
                      Re: Plasma5: After Update right click on desktop not working any  more Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2016-07-06 23:00 +0200
                        Re: Plasma5: After Update right click on desktop not working any more Bob Weber <bobrweber@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 00:30 +0200
                        Re: Plasma5: After Update right click on desktop not working any more Bob Weber <bobrweber@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 01:50 +0200
                          Re: Plasma5: After Update right click on desktop not working any  more Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2016-07-07 08:50 +0200

#169673 — Re: Plasma5: After Update right click on desktop not working any more

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I upgraded my testing system this morning and also lost the right button
function on the desktop. However, I also lost the right click function on the
kde menu button.  I had to create a desktop icon to kmenuedit to edit the KDE
menu.  Left clicking the activities button in the upper left corner of the
screen (default position ?) still brings up options for widgets and desktop
settings so those functions are still available.


*...Bob*

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#169788

Hi Bob,

still trying to find out, which package is involved. However, it looks as no 
one cares about it. 

Seems, as we are the only two people in the world, who are using Plasma, so no 
one is interested athough this is an important function.

Is Plasma dead?

Best

Hans

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On Wed, 06 Jul 2016 18:12:13 +0200
Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> wrote:

Hello Hans,

>still trying to find out, which package is involved. However, it looks
>as no one cares about it. 

It's been under discussion on the KDE ML.

>Seems, as we are the only two people in the world, who are using Plasma,

Not so.

>so no one is interested athough this is an important function.

Not so.

>Is Plasma dead?

Oh!  So melodramatic!

This situation has come about as a result of partial migration to testing
of the necessary packages.  It will sort itself out.

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#169791

> Hello Hans,

Hi Bob, 
> >still trying to find out, which package is involved.
I am updating some packages from unstable (just very, very few) to iterate, 
which package might be involved.

> It's been under discussion on the KDE ML.
>
That's nice to hear! The situation is heavy, as it has a major effect on the 
usability of plasma.

Hans

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#169792 — Re: Plasma5: After Update right click on desktop not working any more

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On Wed, 06 Jul 2016 19:16:06 +0200
Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> wrote:

Hello Hans,

>That's nice to hear! The situation is heavy, as it has a major effect
>on the usability of plasma.

TBH, I've not found it to be a great hindrance.  There is a solution, if
you're prepared to try (risk?) it,  See;

https://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2016/07/msg00020.html

That message details the changes necessary to get Plasma working
correctly.  I will say though, I've not done it.  Further, you may have
different packages selected so if you *do* try the method suggested,
you're pretty much on your own, should it fail.

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> Hello Hans,
Hi Brad,
> 
> TBH, I've not found it to be a great hindrance.  There is a solution, if
> you're prepared to try (risk?) it,  See;
> 
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2016/07/msg00020.html
> 
yes, I will try that on ONE machine. But I will not upgrade everything, one 
after the other. 

> That message details the changes necessary to get Plasma working
> correctly.  I will say though, I've not done it.  Further, you may have
> different packages selected so if you *do* try the method suggested,
> you're pretty much on your own, should it fail.

I upgraded from unstable the already followoing packages without success:

[INSTALLIEREN, ABHÄNGIGKEITEN] libgrantlee-textdocument5:amd64 5.1.0-1
[INSTALLIEREN, ABHÄNGIGKEITEN] libkf5akonadicore-bin:amd64 4:16.04.2-3
[INSTALLIEREN, ABHÄNGIGKEITEN] libkf5akonadicore5:amd64 4:16.04.2-3
[INSTALLIEREN, ABHÄNGIGKEITEN] libkf5akonadinotes5:amd64 4:16.04.2-2
[INSTALLIEREN, ABHÄNGIGKEITEN] libkf5akonadiprivate5:amd64 4:16.04.2-3
[INSTALLIEREN, ABHÄNGIGKEITEN] libkf5akonadiwidgets5:amd64 4:16.04.2-3
[INSTALLIEREN, ABHÄNGIGKEITEN] libkf5gpgmepp-pthread5:amd64 16.04.2-1
[INSTALLIEREN, ABHÄNGIGKEITEN] libkf5kontactinterface-data:amd64 16.04.2-1
[INSTALLIEREN, ABHÄNGIGKEITEN] libkf5kontactinterface5:amd64 16.04.2-1
[INSTALLIEREN, ABHÄNGIGKEITEN] libkf5libkleo5:amd64 4:16.04.2-1
[INSTALLIEREN, ABHÄNGIGKEITEN] libkf5mime5:amd64 16.04.2-1
[INSTALLIEREN, ABHÄNGIGKEITEN] libkf5pimtextedit5:amd64 16.04.2-1
[INSTALLIEREN, ABHÄNGIGKEITEN] libkf5qgpgme5:amd64 16.04.2-1
[INSTALLIEREN, ABHÄNGIGKEITEN] libqt5sql5-mysql:amd64 5.6.1+dfsg-3
[INSTALLIEREN, ABHÄNGIGKEITEN] libscalar-list-utils-perl:amd64 1:1.45-1
[INSTALLIEREN, ABHÄNGIGKEITEN] libvolk1.3:amd64 1.3-1
[INSTALLIEREN, ABHÄNGIGKEITEN] libwebrtc-audio-processing1:amd64 0.3-1
[ENTFERNEN] kipi-plugins:amd64 4:4.14.0-4+b2
[UPGRADE] kde-l10n-de:amd64 4:16.04.2-2 -> 4:16.04.2-3
[UPGRADE] kde-runtime:amd64 4:16.04.2-1 -> 4:16.04.2-2
[UPGRADE] kde-runtime-data:amd64 4:16.04.2-1 -> 4:16.04.2-2
[UPGRADE] kdebase-runtime:amd64 4:16.04.2-1 -> 4:16.04.2-2
[UPGRADE] kded5:amd64 5.22.0-1 -> 5.23.0-1
[UPGRADE] kinit:amd64 5.22.0-1 -> 5.23.0-1
[UPGRADE] plasma-scriptengine-javascript:amd64 4:16.04.2-1 -> 4:16.04.2-2

I will try some more packages until I find the buggy one.

Hans

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#169794 — Re: Plasma5: After Update right click on desktop not working any more

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On Wed, 06 Jul 2016 19:59:54 +0200
Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> wrote:

Hello Hans,

>I will try some more packages until I find the buggy one.

It may be necessary to log out and back in to ensure that the new
packages are used rather than the ones already loaded.

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> It may be necessary to log out and back in to ensure that the new
> packages are used rather than the ones already loaded.

The buggy package is libplasma5 Version5.22

At the moment I try to downgrade all packages back to testing-versions (5.22), 
except for libplasma5.

It costs some time. as I am doing it manually ( I am not exprienced with 
shell-scripts).

Hans

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On Wed, 06 Jul 2016 20:42:16 +0200
Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> wrote:

Hello Hans,

>The buggy package is libplasma5 Version5.22

Can't find that package anywhere in Debian.  Do you, perhaps, mean
libkf5plasma5?

>At the moment I try to downgrade all packages back to testing-versions
>(5.22), except for libplasma5.

That leaves you with a version mis-match;  Downgrading all but that one
package may leave you with some problems.  I suggest keeping everything
at the same version.  It probably doesn't matter which one.

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Hi Brad,
> Can't find that package anywhere in Debian.  Do you, perhaps, mean
> libkf5plasma5?
> 

Yes, sorry,. was a typo.

> >At the moment I try to downgrade all packages back to testing-versions
> >(5.22), except for libplasma5.
> 
> That leaves you with a version mis-match;  Downgrading all but that one
> package may leave you with some problems.  I suggest keeping everything
> at the same version.  It probably doesn't matter which one.

I downgraded only that one, which I installed from unstable during my 
testings. See my mails before.
The other ones are left by 5.23, which are the original versions in 
debian/testing. So I have an original debian/testing except the only package 
(libkf5plasma5 Version 5.23) from unstable. 

Adding this package into the debian/testing repo will fix the system.

Hurray!!!

Best regards 

Hans

P.S. I suppose, you are involved, so please tell the other developers of my 
results. :) Would be nice!  

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On Wed, 06 Jul 2016 21:28:03 +0200
Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> wrote:

Hello Hans,

>Hi Brad,
>> Can't find that package anywhere in Debian.  Do you, perhaps, mean
>> libkf5plasma5?
>Yes, sorry,. was a typo.

Easily done;  I've done it myself many times.

{snip}
>P.S. I suppose, you are involved, so please tell the other developers

Only in that I've been reading the relevant thread.

>of my results. :) Would be nice!  

Consider it done.  Also, I've updated libkf5plasma5 here.  I can confirm
your findings.  Thanks for taking the time to pin down the culprit.

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I installed just libkf5plasma5 (5.23) in my 4 test VMs running Debian testing and confirmed that it appears to have fixed the right click problem.   The test VMs were upgraded this morning.

I just downloaded the libkf5plasma5 deb file and installed it with dpkg -i.  This kept me from adding unstable to the sources.list file and possibly installing some unstable packages that would break other things. https://packages.debian.org can be very helpful.



*...Bob*
On 07/06/2016 04:58 PM, Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Jul 2016 21:28:03 +0200
> Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> wrote:
>
> Hello Hans,
>
>> Hi Brad,
>>> Can't find that package anywhere in Debian.  Do you, perhaps, mean
>>> libkf5plasma5?
>> Yes, sorry,. was a typo.
> Easily done;  I've done it myself many times.
>
> {snip}
>> P.S. I suppose, you are involved, so please tell the other developers
> Only in that I've been reading the relevant thread.
>
>> of my results. :) Would be nice!  
> Consider it done.  Also, I've updated libkf5plasma5 here.  I can confirm
> your findings.  Thanks for taking the time to pin down the culprit.
>

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Brad

Do you know what is holding up the libkf5... transition to 5.23 in testing?  I
see there are some architectures that have build problems.  Will that hold up
the amd64?  About half of my libkf5 files are at 5.22 and the other half at 5.23.



*...Bob*
On 07/06/2016 04:58 PM, Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Jul 2016 21:28:03 +0200
> Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> wrote:
>
> Hello Hans,
>
>> Hi Brad,
>>> Can't find that package anywhere in Debian.  Do you, perhaps, mean
>>> libkf5plasma5?
>> Yes, sorry,. was a typo.
> Easily done;  I've done it myself many times.
>
> {snip}
>> P.S. I suppose, you are involved, so please tell the other developers
> Only in that I've been reading the relevant thread.
>
>> of my results. :) Would be nice!  
> Consider it done.  Also, I've updated libkf5plasma5 here.  I can confirm
> your findings.  Thanks for taking the time to pin down the culprit.
>

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#169825 — Re: Plasma5: After Update right click on desktop not working any more

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On Wed, 6 Jul 2016 19:45:03 -0400
Bob Weber <bobrweber@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Bob,

>Do you know what is holding up the libkf5... transition to 5.23 in
>testing?  I see there are some architectures that have build problems.
>Will that hold up the amd64?  About half of my libkf5 files are at 5.22

AIUI, build issues can cause this delay, yes.  For the full story follow
the relevant links on Debian's PTS (problems: Check Why link).

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