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Need Urgently solution or advice - start to give up on Debian

Started byYIM Programming Izhar Mashkif <yimprogramming@gmail.com>
First post2016-05-18 00:20 +0200
Last post2016-05-21 01:20 +0200
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  Need Urgently solution or advice - start to give up on Debian YIM Programming Izhar Mashkif <yimprogramming@gmail.com> - 2016-05-18 00:20 +0200
    Re: Need Urgently solution or advice - start to give up on Debian Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-05-18 01:40 +0200
    Re: Need Urgently solution or advice - start to give up on Debian Ralph Sanchez <rwsanchez3@gmail.com> - 2016-05-18 02:00 +0200
      Re: Need Urgently solution or advice - start to give up on Debian deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2016-05-18 23:00 +0200
        Re: Need Urgently solution or advice - start to give up on Debian Bret Busby <bret.busby@gmail.com> - 2016-05-20 19:50 +0200
          Re: Need Urgently solution or advice - start to give up on Debian Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-05-20 20:50 +0200
            Re: Need Urgently solution or advice - start to give up on Debian Bret Busby <bret.busby@gmail.com> - 2016-05-21 00:50 +0200
              Re: Need Urgently solution or advice - start to give up on Debian Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-05-21 01:00 +0200
              Re: Need Urgently solution or advice - start to give up on Debian Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-05-21 01:10 +0200
                Re: Need Urgently solution or advice - start to give up on Debian Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-05-21 01:20 +0200

#167977 — Need Urgently solution or advice - start to give up on Debian

FromYIM Programming Izhar Mashkif <yimprogramming@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-18 00:20 +0200
SubjectNeed Urgently solution or advice - start to give up on Debian
Message-ID<rzVvk-1Vr-5@gated-at.bofh.it>

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Hello all.

I have a problem with installing Debian as described at that discussion.
The problem is that my time is over I have a other computer that I must
install there OS or I will stay without Computer.

I really wanted to use Debian because I was disappoint of Ubuntu but it's
seem to me more complicated. So because the urgantly maybe I should use
other Linux like Mint or Ubuntu.

This is the problem at the forum :

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=128321&p=616003#p616003

I will glad to hear solution or advice.

best regards.

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#167982

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-18 01:40 +0200
Message-ID<rzWKJ-2DG-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#167977
On Tuesday 17 May 2016 23:01:35 YIM Programming Izhar Mashkif wrote:
> Hello all.
>
> I have a problem with installing Debian as described at that discussion.
> The problem is that my time is over I have a other computer that I must
> install there OS or I will stay without Computer.
>
> I really wanted to use Debian because I was disappoint of Ubuntu but it's
> seem to me more complicated. So because the urgantly maybe I should use
> other Linux like Mint or Ubuntu.
>
> This is the problem at the forum :
>
> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=128321&p=616003#p616003
>
> I will glad to hear solution or advice.

I'm sorry, I haven't understood the problem.  Could you try to explain what 
you have done and what failed?

Lisi

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#167983

FromRalph Sanchez <rwsanchez3@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-18 02:00 +0200
Message-ID<rzX46-2JS-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
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His problem is that he gets a garbled or corrupted screen instead of any
kind of startup unless he boots into some kind of safe mode or opens the
grub command prompt, that's what I've surmised. I had that happen my first
install, and it just happened to be bad luck and poor connection quality,
along with being a total novice Linux user.
On May 17, 2016 6:18 PM, "YIM Programming Izhar Mashkif" <
yimprogramming@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello all.

I have a problem with installing Debian as described at that discussion.
The problem is that my time is over I have a other computer that I must
install there OS or I will stay without Computer.

I really wanted to use Debian because I was disappoint of Ubuntu but it's
seem to me more complicated. So because the urgantly maybe I should use
other Linux like Mint or Ubuntu.

This is the problem at the forum :

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=128321&p=616003#p616003

I will glad to hear solution or advice.

best regards.

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#168043

Fromdeloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-18 23:00 +0200
Message-ID<rAgJs-6ZU-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#167983
Ralph Sanchez wrote:

> His problem is that he gets a garbled or corrupted screen instead of any
> kind of startup unless he boots into some kind of safe mode or opens the
> grub command prompt, that's what I've surmised. I had that happen my first
> install, and it just happened to be bad luck and poor connection quality,
> along with being a total novice Linux user.

And he'll have the problem on each distro with this computer.

He needs to know how one can install proprietary NVidea or setup Xorg to use
the linux nuovo driver.

I think if a newbie gives up from the second time, it's better he gives up
forever.

The younger people (I assume he's younger) are not patient and have this
go - buy - throw away mentality. With this mentality one is better off with
Apple.

If he's patient, he would listen and find the solution - it is in fact very
simple. He could use also the framebuffer.

Just try 
        apt-get install nvidia-driver 
this is NVIDIA metapackage

regards

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#168100

FromBret Busby <bret.busby@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-20 19:50 +0200
Message-ID<rAWIG-aw-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#168043
On 19/05/2016, deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ralph Sanchez wrote:
>
>> His problem is that he gets a garbled or corrupted screen instead of any
>> kind of startup unless he boots into some kind of safe mode or opens the
>> grub command prompt, that's what I've surmised. I had that happen my
>> first
>> install, and it just happened to be bad luck and poor connection quality,
>> along with being a total novice Linux user.
>
> And he'll have the problem on each distro with this computer.
>
> He needs to know how one can install proprietary NVidea or setup Xorg to
> use
> the linux nuovo driver.
>
> I think if a newbie gives up from the second time, it's better he gives up
> forever.
>
> The younger people (I assume he's younger) are not patient and have this
> go - buy - throw away mentality. With this mentality one is better off with
> Apple.
>
> If he's patient, he would listen and find the solution - it is in fact very
> simple. He could use also the framebuffer.
>
> Just try
>         apt-get install nvidia-driver
> this is NVIDIA metapackage
>
> regards
>
>

I do not understand - the original poster does not clarify - what was
the problem with Ubuntu.

I make this point because, as some of you may recall, I have an Acer
V3-772G, with an NVidia GPU, for which, as I found, the only operating
system other than MS Windows, that had a driver, was Ubuntu Linux.

If the original poster does not like the interface, that can be
changed; I did not like the default Ubuntu Linux interface, so I
installed UbuntuMATE, with the MATE interface, to provide an interface
with which I was more comfortable.

Simply stating that a person is "disappointed" with a particular
operating system, is as helpful as complaining that the person has a
problem, without stating what it is.

The original poster needs to provide clarification - is the screen the
wrong colour, or the default font, too small, or the taskbar in the
wrong place, or the name "Ubuntu", to weird for the original poster,
that the original poster has as a reason for being "disappointed" with
Ubuntu?


-- 

Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia

..............

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
 Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
 "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
 A Trilogy In Four Parts",
 written by Douglas Adams,
 published by Pan Books, 1992

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#168102

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2016-05-20 20:50 +0200
Message-ID<rAXEJ-PC-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#168100
On Sat 21 May 2016 at 01:44:02 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:

> On 19/05/2016, deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > And he'll have the problem on each distro with this computer.
> 
> I do not understand - the original poster does not clarify - what was
> the problem with Ubuntu.

His issue with Ubuntu is completely irrelevant. He did not make a big
thing about it, so neither need you.

> I make this point because, as some of you may recall, I have an Acer
> V3-772G, with an NVidia GPU, for which, as I found, the only operating
> system other than MS Windows, that had a driver, was Ubuntu Linux.

I do not recall any of this. Is it relevant to the OP's issue?

> If the original poster does not like the interface, that can be
> changed; I did not like the default Ubuntu Linux interface, so I
> installed UbuntuMATE, with the MATE interface, to provide an interface
> with which I was more comfortable.

This doesn't look relevant to anything.
 
> Simply stating that a person is "disappointed" with a particular
> operating system, is as helpful as complaining that the person has a
> problem, without stating what it is.

It's an expression of feelings; human beings tend to do things like
that.

> The original poster needs to provide clarification - is the screen the
> wrong colour, or the default font, too small, or the taskbar in the
> wrong place, or the name "Ubuntu", to weird for the original poster,
> that the original poster has as a reason for being "disappointed" with
> Ubuntu?

The OP is beginning to wish he had not mentioned Ubuntu.


> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Bret Busby
> Armadale
> West Australia
> 
> ..............
> 
> "So once you do know what the question actually is,
>  you'll know what the answer means."
> - Deep Thought,
>  Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
>  "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
>  A Trilogy In Four Parts",
>  written by Douglas Adams,
>  published by Pan Books, 1992
> 
> ....................................................
>

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#168110

FromBret Busby <bret.busby@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-21 00:50 +0200
Message-ID<rB1p0-3zb-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#168102
On 21/05/2016, Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sat 21 May 2016 at 01:44:02 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
>
>> On 19/05/2016, deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > And he'll have the problem on each distro with this computer.
>>
>> I do not understand - the original poster does not clarify - what was
>> the problem with Ubuntu.
>
> His issue with Ubuntu is completely irrelevant. He did not make a big
> thing about it, so neither need you.
>
>> I make this point because, as some of you may recall, I have an Acer
>> V3-772G, with an NVidia GPU, for which, as I found, the only operating
>> system other than MS Windows, that had a driver, was Ubuntu Linux.
>
> I do not recall any of this. Is it relevant to the OP's issue?
>
>> If the original poster does not like the interface, that can be
>> changed; I did not like the default Ubuntu Linux interface, so I
>> installed UbuntuMATE, with the MATE interface, to provide an interface
>> with which I was more comfortable.
>
> This doesn't look relevant to anything.
>
>> Simply stating that a person is "disappointed" with a particular
>> operating system, is as helpful as complaining that the person has a
>> problem, without stating what it is.
>
> It's an expression of feelings; human beings tend to do things like
> that.
>
>> The original poster needs to provide clarification - is the screen the
>> wrong colour, or the default font, too small, or the taskbar in the
>> wrong place, or the name "Ubuntu", to weird for the original poster,
>> that the original poster has as a reason for being "disappointed" with
>> Ubuntu?
>
> The OP is beginning to wish he had not mentioned Ubuntu.
>


So, you are the original poster, and you do not want a solution to the problem?

Okay then.

Either that, or you are simply a troll.

-- 

Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia

..............

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
 Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
 "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
 A Trilogy In Four Parts",
 written by Douglas Adams,
 published by Pan Books, 1992

....................................................

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#168111

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-21 01:00 +0200
Message-ID<rB1yG-3Cr-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#168110
On Friday 20 May 2016 23:45:30 Bret Busby wrote:
> So, you are the original poster, and you do not want a solution to the
> problem?

He wanted a solution to the problem of installing Debian.  You did not offer 
one.
>
> Okay then.
>
> Either that, or you are simply a troll.

The OP could have gone to the Ubuntu list for an Ubuntu solution.  He came 
here to the Debian list for a Debian solution because he didn't like Ubuntu.  
There are lots of reasons why someone might not like Ubuntu.

Troll - "someone who leaves an intentionally annoying message on the internet, 
in order to get attention or cause trouble".  It fits you a lot better than 
it fits Brian.

Lisi

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#168112

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2016-05-21 01:10 +0200
Message-ID<rB1Im-3UX-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#168110
On Sat 21 May 2016 at 06:45:30 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:

> On 21/05/2016, Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > The OP is beginning to wish he had not mentioned Ubuntu.
> >
> So, you are the original poster, and you do not want a solution to the problem?
> 
> Okay then.
> 
> Either that, or you are simply a troll.

None of those choices appeal to me. Are there any more on offer?

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#168113

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-21 01:20 +0200
Message-ID<rB1S1-3Ye-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#168112
On Friday 20 May 2016 23:59:44 Brian wrote:
> On Sat 21 May 2016 at 06:45:30 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> > On 21/05/2016, Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
> > > The OP is beginning to wish he had not mentioned Ubuntu.
> >
> > So, you are the original poster, and you do not want a solution to the
> > problem?
> >
> > Okay then.
> >
> > Either that, or you are simply a troll.
>
> None of those choices appeal to me. Are there any more on offer?

:-))

Lisi

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