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  vivaldi? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-01-03 16:10 +0100
    Re: vivaldi? Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2016-01-03 16:20 +0100
      Re: vivaldi? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-01-03 16:30 +0100
        Re: vivaldi? Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2016-01-03 17:00 +0100
          Re: vivaldi? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-01-03 18:20 +0100
    Re: vivaldi? Charlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com> - 2016-01-03 17:10 +0100
      Re: vivaldi? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-01-03 18:00 +0100
        Re: vivaldi? Charlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com> - 2016-01-03 19:20 +0100
          Re: vivaldi? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-01-03 22:10 +0100
    Re: vivaldi? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-01-03 18:30 +0100
      Re: vivaldi? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-01-03 18:40 +0100
        Re: vivaldi? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-01-03 19:50 +0100
    Re: vivaldi? David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2016-01-03 21:50 +0100
      Re: vivaldi? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-01-03 22:20 +0100
        Re: vivaldi? David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2016-01-03 22:40 +0100
          Re: vivaldi? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-01-03 23:20 +0100
            Re: vivaldi? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-01-04 00:30 +0100
              Re: vivaldi? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-01-04 01:10 +0100
                Re: vivaldi? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-01-04 03:30 +0100
            Re: vivaldi? David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2016-01-04 04:00 +0100
              Re: vivaldi? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-01-04 04:50 +0100
                Re: vivaldi? David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2016-01-05 02:20 +0100
              Re: vivaldi? Siard <shiems146@kpnplanet.nl> - 2016-01-04 15:20 +0100
                Re: vivaldi? Bob Holtzman <holtzm@cox.net> - 2016-02-08 22:30 +0100
    Re: vivaldi? deloptes <deloptes@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-03 22:10 +0100
      Re: vivaldi? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-01-03 22:50 +0100
        Re: vivaldi? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-01-03 23:10 +0100
          Re: vivaldi? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2016-01-04 18:10 +0100
            Re: vivaldi? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-01-04 18:30 +0100
      Re: vivaldi? Bob Holtzman <holtzm@cox.net> - 2016-02-08 21:40 +0100
    Re: vivaldi? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2016-01-03 23:00 +0100
      Re: vivaldi? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-01-03 23:20 +0100
    Re: vivaldi? Bob Holtzman <holtzm@cox.net> - 2016-01-03 23:50 +0100
      Re: vivaldi? Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-01-04 00:40 +0100
        Re: vivaldi? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2016-01-04 01:10 +0100
          Re: vivaldi? Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 01:20 +0100
        Re: vivaldi? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2016-01-04 02:30 +0100
      Re: vivaldi? Bob Holtzman <holtzm@cox.net> - 2016-01-04 20:40 +0100
    Re: vivaldi? Floris <jkfloris@dds.nl> - 2016-01-04 14:50 +0100
    Re: vivaldi? James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> - 2016-01-18 18:50 +0100

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#162569

On Sunday 03 January 2016 21:56:46 David Christensen wrote:

> On 01/03/2016 02:14 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Well, slashdot can crash chrome just sitting there on the front
> > page, presumably when an attempt is made to load some off-my-screen
> > bit of slashdot.
> >
> > http://www.cbsnews.com/news/armed-militia-takeover-oregon-debate-mea
> >ning-of-terrorist/
>
> Testing IceWeasel 38.5.0 on a fresh install of
> debian-7.9.0-amd64-xfce, I see a web page with lots of text and
> images.  I do not see any error messages.
>
> > http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-marshal-south-dakota-shoots-kills-sou
> >th-carolina-murder-suspect/
>
> I see a pop-up/ overlay for ~10 seconds, then I see the web page.
>
> > http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-quiet-power-of-meditation/
>
> I see the web page.
>
> > http://www.cbsnews.com/news/activists-target-gun-makers-with-unload-
> >your-401k/
>
> I see the web page.
>
> > Thats 4 that give this:
> > Error 413 Request Entity Too Large, purported from the varnish cache
> > server, whatever the heck that is.
>
> Did you click on something to produce that error message?
>
Yes, the listed links.

> > http://freedomoutpost.com/2016/01/isis-to-activate-thousands-of-slee
> >per-cells-in-2016-to-destabilize-the-west/
>
> I see the web page.
>
> > There I found a flash, tried to play it,
>
> Following the paragraph "Baghdadi added: ...", I see a grayed area
> with the text "A plugin is needed to display this content".  Clicking
> on it has no effect.
>
>
> If I browse to YouTube, and click on the top video "Coldplay - Birds
> (Official video)", it plays.  Testing two others, they work fine. 
> Note that I did not need to install browser-plugin-gnash, so YouTube
> is likely detecting what IceWeasel supports OOTB and sending a
> suitable video stream.
>
> > clicked on the update now
> > button. it went thru the download of a 32 bit version in a tar.gz,
> > supposedly saving it in ~/Downloads. This is the only flash file in
> > Downloads:
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 gene gene    5979889 Aug 25  2013
> > flashplayer_11_sa.i386.tar.gz
> > I have unpacked it and installed it several times, no effect.
>
> I think you've boogered your machine.  Put in another system drive (or
> USB stick), do a plain vanilla install of Wheezy with Xfce, take an
> image, and then try IceWeasel.
>
>
> David


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#162623

On 01/03/2016 07:44 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 03 January 2016 21:56:46 David Christensen wrote:
>> Did you click on something to produce that error message?
>>
> Yes, the listed links.

Then your IceWeasel and/or Wheezy are broken.  I would do a backup, 
wipe, fresh install (or re-image), and restore cycle.


David

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#162580

David Christensen:
> Gene Heskett:
> > http://freedomoutpost.com/2016/01/isis-to-activate-thousands-of-sleeper-cells-in-2016-to-destabilize-the-west/
> 
> I see the web page.
>
> > There I found a flash, tried to play it,
> 
> Following the paragraph "Baghdadi added: ...", I see a grayed area
> with the text "A plugin is needed to display this content".  Clicking
> on it has no effect.

I'd suggest not to install flashplugin-nonfree, but
browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash instead.
It makes the Pepper Flash plugin from Chrome available for NPAPI web
browsers such as Iceweasel and Seamonkey, using the latest Flash
version, which is 20.0.0.228 at the moment.

This way, the video mentioned above plays fine here in Iceweasel,
Seamonkey, Opera and Vivaldi.

As for YouTube, in www.youtube.com/html5 you can set YouTube to use
html5 wherever possible.

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#163957

On Mon, Jan 04, 2016 at 03:09:53PM +0100, Siard wrote:
> David Christensen:
> > Gene Heskett:
> > > http://freedomoutpost.com/2016/01/isis-to-activate-thousands-of-sleeper-cells-in-2016-to-destabilize-the-west/
> > 
> > I see the web page.
> >
> > > There I found a flash, tried to play it,
> > 
> > Following the paragraph "Baghdadi added: ...", I see a grayed area
> > with the text "A plugin is needed to display this content".  Clicking
> > on it has no effect.
> 
> I'd suggest not to install flashplugin-nonfree, but
> browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash instead.
> It makes the Pepper Flash plugin from Chrome available for NPAPI web
> browsers such as Iceweasel and Seamonkey, using the latest Flash
> version, which is 20.0.0.228 at the moment.

Which, at a guess, means it comes from Google. If true, ain't no way
that goes on my system! If I'm wrong, please educate me.

-- 
Bob Holtzman
A man is a man who will fight with a sword or
conquer Mt. Everest in snow. But the bravest of all
owns a '34 Ford and tries for six thousand in low.

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#162548

Hi Gene, all,
I think Gene should be handled with respect and patience

> Comments please, and what browser are you all using that doesn't hassle
> the user to death, it Just Works, like firefox did 3 years ago.

The popup you see is because your flashplayer (plugin) is outdated. Whenever
you update it, the pop up goes away until the next update is released. This
happens for good or bad very often recently - 3-4 times a year.

But the installation of the flash plugin is not that complicated. At least
you know how one works with a console (there is install script you run via
sudo)

The other thing I'm doing is using the latest version of firefox and not
icew. But this comes to personal preference.
I do not like chrome, though it is not bad. I do not like it because it
comes from google.

regards

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#162554

On Sunday 03 January 2016 16:08:07 deloptes wrote:

> Hi Gene, all,
> I think Gene should be handled with respect and patience
>
> > Comments please, and what browser are you all using that doesn't
> > hassle the user to death, it Just Works, like firefox did 3 years
> > ago.
>
> The popup you see is because your flashplayer (plugin) is outdated.
> Whenever you update it, the pop up goes away until the next update is
> released. This happens for good or bad very often recently - 3-4 times
> a year.
>
Yes, I have seen that requester many many times, but when I go to the 
adobe site like the suggested link goes to, the only version it offers 
me is exactly what I've had for ay least 2 years, the last one afer 
which they stated that no new linux compatibles would be released, that 
was the last one.

Can you explain that?

As a FWIW I have these installed: (hand copied from the synaptic screen, 
and these archives are not present in /var/cache/apt/archives. Accuracy 
of hand copying dubious)

flash-plugin-nonfree 		1.3.2+wheezy1
pepperflash-plugin-nonfree	1.4~bpo60+1
browser-plugin-lightspark	0.6.0.1-2
browser-plugin-gnash		0.8.11~git20120629-1+deb7u1
konqueror-plugin-gnash 		same version as above

All the usual lightspark suspects are installed, as are all the usual 
suspects for gnash.

I have put up with this slow destruction of what iceweasel can do, dating 
back to other installs as long as 2 years back.  No one else seems to be 
having problems with it they can't fix.

Whats next?  Nuke em all & see if iceweasel can fix it when its all 
missing?

> But the installation of the flash plugin is not that complicated. At
> least you know how one works with a console (there is install script
> you run via sudo)
>
> The other thing I'm doing is using the latest version of firefox and
> not icew. But this comes to personal preference.
> I do not like chrome, though it is not bad. I do not like it because
> it comes from google.
>
> regards


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#162556

Gene writes:
> Yes, I have seen that requester many many times, but when I go to the 
> adobe site like the suggested link goes to, the only version it offers 
> me is exactly what I've had for ay least 2 years, the last one afer 
> which they stated that no new linux compatibles would be released, that 
> was the last one.

> Can you explain that?

You should know better than to do what Adobe tells you (the alert is
coming from the Adobe server software at the site you are accessing.  It
has nothing to do with Firefox).  Get rid of anything you got directly
from Adobe.  Install the flashplugin-nonfree package.  When you get that
"alert" run "update-flashplugin-nonfree --install".  Adobe is not
releasing new versions for Linux but they are patching security bugs.

Better yet, get rid of Adobe and install Gnash.

BTW there is a Firefox plugin that will make Youtube use HTML5 instead
of Flash.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#162591

On 2016-01-03, John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
> BTW there is a Firefox plugin that will make Youtube use HTML5 instead
> of Flash.

I use the latest version of Firefox; Youtube defaults to HTML5 for the
most part, but I get no sound.

I've gleaned, perhaps incorrectly, that it may have to do with the fact
that my HDMI "watchamacallit" is card 0 and my ALC662 "chip" (that I use
for sound) is card 1.

I created an .asoundrc workaround file in my home directory many moons
ago to get sound because of the above arrangement.

Well, anyway, I've hijacked the thread and will be shot at dawn.

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#162594

On Monday 04 January 2016 17:06:44 Curt wrote:
> On 2016-01-03, John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> wrote:
> > BTW there is a Firefox plugin that will make Youtube use HTML5 instead
> > of Flash.
>
> I use the latest version of Firefox; Youtube defaults to HTML5 for the
> most part, but I get no sound.
>
> I've gleaned, perhaps incorrectly, that it may have to do with the fact
> that my HDMI "watchamacallit" is card 0 and my ALC662 "chip" (that I use
> for sound) is card 1.
>
> I created an .asoundrc workaround file in my home directory many moons
> ago to get sound because of the above arrangement.
>
> Well, anyway, I've hijacked the thread and will be shot at dawn.

And you didn't even say "was".  Shooting is too good. ;-)

Lisi

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#163954

On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 10:08:07PM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> Hi Gene, all,
> I think Gene should be handled with respect and patience
> 
> > Comments please, and what browser are you all using that doesn't hassle
> > the user to death, it Just Works, like firefox did 3 years ago.
> 
> The popup you see is because your flashplayer (plugin) is outdated. Whenever
> you update it, the pop up goes away until the next update is released. This
> happens for good or bad very often recently - 3-4 times a year.
> 
> But the installation of the flash plugin is not that complicated. At least
> you know how one works with a console (there is install script you run via
> sudo)
> 
> The other thing I'm doing is using the latest version of firefox and not
> icew. But this comes to personal preference.
> I do not like chrome, though it is not bad. I do not like it because it
> comes from google.

That's not the only reason to dislike it. I found it impossible to lock
it down like I can with iceweasel/fireffox

-- 
Bob Holtzman
A man is a man who will fight with a sword or
conquer Mt. Everest in snow. But the bravest of all
owns a '34 Ford and tries for six thousand in low.

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#162555

Gene Heskett composed on 2016-01-03 10:02 (UTC-0500):

> Trying to find a web browser that actually works here.

With so many giving trouble, have you considered creating a new login user to
test with? I find it hard to believe you can find no browser capable of using
the web, or every browser crashing. I've found found none incapable for many
many moons.

Maybe you have a filesystem problem that's affecting HTTP connections. Maybe
a forced / filesystem check would find and fix a problem.

I do not have Flash installed on this system, and have no problem doing what
needs doing among 5-6 different Gecko and KHTML web browsers, e.g. on cbsnews:
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/ff38esrFS1920x1200x120.jpg
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

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#162558

On Sunday 03 January 2016 16:54:28 Felix Miata wrote:

> Gene Heskett composed on 2016-01-03 10:02 (UTC-0500):
> > Trying to find a web browser that actually works here.
>
> With so many giving trouble, have you considered creating a new login
> user to test with? I find it hard to believe you can find no browser
> capable of using the web, or every browser crashing. I've found found
> none incapable for many many moons.
>
> Maybe you have a filesystem problem that's affecting HTTP connections.
> Maybe a forced / filesystem check would find and fix a problem.
>
> I do not have Flash installed on this system, and have no problem
> doing what needs doing among 5-6 different Gecko and KHTML web
> browsers, e.g. on cbsnews:
> http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/ff38esrFS1920x1200x120.jpg

I have no problems with .jpg, they just work.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#162559

On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 05:21:17PM +0000, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Sunday 03 January 2016 15:02:59 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > So I installed googles chromium,
> 
> Which?  Google Chrome or chromium (debian package).
> 
> > but it crashes and you have to use the 
> > reload button, hundreds of times a day.
> 
> > Does anyone have a clue what that is all about?  googles idea of an
> > easter egg that disappears if you register chromium which I assume turns
> > it into chrome?
> 
>  No, they are not the same thing.  There is chromium, which is a Debian 
> package and Open Source, and Google Chrome, which is proprietary and Just 
> Works (most of the time).
> 
> > Comments please, and what browser are you all using that doesn't hassle
> > the user to death, it Just Works, like firefox did 3 years ago.
> 
> I find that Flash on Iceweasel and Google Chrome both work on Wheezy for 
> almost everything.  I don't use Iceweasel a lot because of all the security 
> issues. 

What is your substitute? Also I haven't heard of a lot of security
problems w/ iceweasel. Enlighten me please.

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#162562

On Sunday 03 January 2016 22:43:36 Bob Holtzman wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 05:21:17PM +0000, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Sunday 03 January 2016 15:02:59 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > So I installed googles chromium,
> >
> > Which?  Google Chrome or chromium (debian package).
> >
> > > but it crashes and you have to use the
> > > reload button, hundreds of times a day.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have a clue what that is all about?  googles idea of an
> > > easter egg that disappears if you register chromium which I assume
> > > turns it into chrome?
> >
> >  No, they are not the same thing.  There is chromium, which is a Debian
> > package and Open Source, and Google Chrome, which is proprietary and Just
> > Works (most of the time).
> >
> > > Comments please, and what browser are you all using that doesn't hassle
> > > the user to death, it Just Works, like firefox did 3 years ago.
> >
> > I find that Flash on Iceweasel and Google Chrome both work on Wheezy for
> > almost everything.  I don't use Iceweasel a lot because of all the
> > security issues.
>
> What is your substitute? Also I haven't heard of a lot of security
> problems w/ iceweasel. Enlighten me please.

e.g. 
https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20151216182759.GA3513@pisco.westfalen.local

Lisi

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#162564

Bob writes:
> What is your substitute? Also I haven't heard of a lot of security
> problems w/ iceweasel. Enlighten me please.

Lisi writes:
> e.g. 
> https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20151216182759.GA3513@pisco.westfalen.local

So what?  Those are Firefox bugs.  They were fixed.  "sudo apt install iceweasel"
and Bob's your uncle.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#162618

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 9:06 AM, John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> wrote:
> Bob writes:
>> What is your substitute? Also I haven't heard of a lot of security
>> problems w/ iceweasel. Enlighten me please.
>
> Lisi writes:
>> e.g.
>> https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20151216182759.GA3513@pisco.westfalen.local
>
> So what?  Those are Firefox bugs.  They were fixed.  "sudo apt install iceweasel"

or apt-get update

> and Bob's your uncle.

As John implies here, every web browser has these kinds of bugs show
up reguarly. It's a symptom of the features wars that the big
companies wage to try to control the market, and, since we want to use
the web with everyone else, we get dragged into the wake whether we
wanted to ski or not.

Firefox has does not have especially more than anyone else.

-- 
Joel Rees

Ranting is free.
http://free-is-not-free.blogspot.jp/

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#162565

On Sunday 03 January 2016 18:33:05 Lisi Reisz wrote:

> On Sunday 03 January 2016 22:43:36 Bob Holtzman wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 05:21:17PM +0000, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > On Sunday 03 January 2016 15:02:59 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > So I installed googles chromium,
> > >
> > > Which?  Google Chrome or chromium (debian package).
> > >
> > > > but it crashes and you have to use the
> > > > reload button, hundreds of times a day.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have a clue what that is all about?  googles idea of
> > > > an easter egg that disappears if you register chromium which I
> > > > assume turns it into chrome?
> > >
> > >  No, they are not the same thing.  There is chromium, which is a
> > > Debian package and Open Source, and Google Chrome, which is
> > > proprietary and Just Works (most of the time).
> > >
> > > > Comments please, and what browser are you all using that doesn't
> > > > hassle the user to death, it Just Works, like firefox did 3
> > > > years ago.
> > >
> > > I find that Flash on Iceweasel and Google Chrome both work on
> > > Wheezy for almost everything.  I don't use Iceweasel a lot because
> > > of all the security issues.
> >
> > What is your substitute? Also I haven't heard of a lot of security
> > problems w/ iceweasel. Enlighten me please.
>
> e.g.
> https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20151216182759.GA3513@pisco.west
>falen.local
>
> Lisi
Which is the version I have installed.

Thanks.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#162602

On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 11:33:05PM +0000, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Sunday 03 January 2016 22:43:36 Bob Holtzman wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 05:21:17PM +0000, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > On Sunday 03 January 2016 15:02:59 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > So I installed googles chromium,
> > >
> > > Which?  Google Chrome or chromium (debian package).
> > >
> > > > but it crashes and you have to use the
> > > > reload button, hundreds of times a day.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have a clue what that is all about?  googles idea of an
> > > > easter egg that disappears if you register chromium which I assume
> > > > turns it into chrome?
> > >
> > >  No, they are not the same thing.  There is chromium, which is a Debian
> > > package and Open Source, and Google Chrome, which is proprietary and Just
> > > Works (most of the time).
> > >
> > > > Comments please, and what browser are you all using that doesn't hassle
> > > > the user to death, it Just Works, like firefox did 3 years ago.
> > >
> > > I find that Flash on Iceweasel and Google Chrome both work on Wheezy for
> > > almost everything.  I don't use Iceweasel a lot because of all the
> > > security issues.
> >
> > What is your substitute? Also I haven't heard of a lot of security
> > problems w/ iceweasel. Enlighten me please.
> 
> e.g.
> https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20151216182759.GA3513@pisco.westfalen.local

I'm getting "no such message", "Sorry, no match found for message-id
20151216182759.GA3513" or "No such Message-ID known". 

Found a post in the debian-security-announce news group about the 
vulnerabilities but it said that they had been patched. They are a 
use-after-free and a flaw in the handling of add-ons installation.
Are these the ones you refer to? If not, got another link?  
 

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#162577

Op Sun, 03 Jan 2016 16:02:59 +0100 schreef Gene Heskett  
<gheskett@shentel.net>:

> Greetings all;
>
>
> So I downloaded the vivaldi-beta deb, and tried to use apt-get to
> install, but that spit out several dozen pages of E: lines and didn't.
>
vivaldi-beta is an older version use the snapshot version. Vivaldi
is still alpha/beta software so the beta version isn't more stable than
the snapshot.

You don't install deb packages with apt. Use

dpkg -i vivaldi-some-version.deb
apt-get install -f

vivaldi creates an entry in /etc/apt/sources.d/ to make it easy
to update with apt-get

> So I stepped into the deb with mc, and copied its contents to the
> directories it would have been put in, even ran the postinst thing.
> Didn't run from a cli.

So now you are sure your installation is broken.
At you own risk! Try to remove those files.

success,

btw. Vivaldi runs fine over here

floris

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#163243

>>>>> "GH" == Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> writes:

GH> So I downloaded the vivaldi-beta deb, and tried to use apt-get to 
GH> install, but that spit out several dozen pages of E: lines and didn't.

To install a downloaded deb, try:  dpkg --install file.deb

GH> Comments please, and what browser are you all using that doesn't hassle 
GH> the user to death, it Just Works, like firefox did 3 years ago.

You can always install firefox (or seamonkey) from the upstream tar:

http://download.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.39/linux-i686/en-US/seamonkey-2.39.tar.bz2
http://download.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.39/contrib/seamonkey-2.39.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2
https://download-installer.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/43.0.4/linux-i686/en-US/firefox-43.0.4.tar.bz2
https://download-installer.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/43.0.4/linux-x86_64/en-US/firefox-43.0.4.tar.bz2

(Seamonkey is the continuation of the original mozilla UI.)

-JimC
-- 
James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com>         OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6

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