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  default English (US) QWERTY layout rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-11-15 06:10 +0100
    Re: default English (US) QWERTY layout Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 07:30 +0100
      Re: default English (US) QWERTY layout rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-11-15 07:50 +0100
    Re: default English (US) QWERTY layout Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 19:10 +0100
      Re: default English (US) QWERTY layout rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-11-15 19:20 +0100
        Re: default English (US) QWERTY layout Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 01:00 +0100
    Re: default English (US) QWERTY layout David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2015-11-15 21:20 +0100
      Re: default English (US) QWERTY layout Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 22:00 +0100

#160577 — default English (US) QWERTY layout

Would some kindly soul who is a English (US) QWERTY user and who is
running Jessie on an i386 system follow the path:

applications -> setting -> keyboard -> layout

and tell me which is the default English (US) layout which is selected by
the installer?

I routinely switch to "classic Dvorak" immediately after installing and
delete the default layout.

But now I need to switch over a machine for a friend who knows only QWERTY.

Thanks,
Russ

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#160579

On 11/15/15, rlharris@oplink.net <rlharris@oplink.net> wrote:
> Would some kindly soul who is a English (US) QWERTY user and who is
> running Jessie on an i386 system follow the path:
>
> applications -> setting -> keyboard -> layout
>
> and tell me which is the default English (US) layout which is selected by
> the installer?


I'm in (debootstrapped) Sid Unstable on AMD64, but I played along
anyway. Mine's default is:

Model: Generic 105-key (Intl) PC
Layout: English (US)

That's on an ASUS 1015px'y Eee PC.. :)

It's been a few.... weeks since I last debootstrapped this thing, but
something already wasn't gelling in my head about it. Checked my notes
and apparently that is the default. It didn't look right with the
system having it checkmarked/toggled as being default because it
*seemed like* I had manually set that... or something. I must just
breeze on through it during the "console-setup" install part of
debootstrap... or something. :)

Just for kicks am leaving a note here that "dpkg-reconfigure
keyboard-configuration" is a step available in a very minimal setup
and via the terminal. :)

For even bigger kicks, I just reset my keyboard model to Asus, go
figure. Wandering off now wondering if I haven't just sunk my own
battleship......

Cindy :)

-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with plastic sporks *

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#160580

On Sun, November 15, 2015 12:20 am, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
> I'm in (debootstrapped) Sid Unstable on AMD64, but I played along
> anyway. Mine's default is:
>
> Model: Generic 105-key (Intl) PC
> Layout: English (US)
>
> That's on an ASUS 1015px'y Eee PC.. :)

Thanks.  The only "English (US, ...)" selections which the keyboard
settings menu offers are:

   English (US, alternative international)
   English (US, international with dead keys)
   English (US, with euro on 5)

I expected to see something a bit more familiar, but I suppose that the
safest choice is the last.  The next time I install Debian, I shall try to
remember to make a note of the default QWERTY layout before I delete it.

Russ

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#160589

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015, rlharris@oplink.net wrote:

> Would some kindly soul who is a English (US) QWERTY user and who is
> running Jessie on an i386 system follow the path:
> 
> applications -> setting -> keyboard -> layout
> 
> and tell me which is the default English (US) layout which is
> selected by the installer?
> 
> I routinely switch to "classic Dvorak" immediately after installing
> and delete the default layout.
> 
> But now I need to switch over a machine for a friend who knows only
> QWERTY.

As I don't run a desktop (window manager only -- Openbox) on my very
custom installed Wheezy 64-bit system, I can't follow your menu
request, but 'debconf-show keyboard-configuration' reports:

* keyboard-configuration/modelcode: pc105
  keyboard-configuration/unsupported_config_options: true
  keyboard-configuration/unsupported_config_layout: true
* keyboard-configuration/toggle: No toggling
* keyboard-configuration/compose: No compose key
* keyboard-configuration/layout:
* keyboard-configuration/xkb-keymap: us
* keyboard-configuration/variant: English (US)
  debian-installer/console-setup-udeb/title:
* keyboard-configuration/switch: No temporary switch
  keyboard-configuration/unsupported_options: true
* keyboard-configuration/altgr: The default for the keyboard layout
  keyboard-configuration/ctrl_alt_bksp: false
  keyboard-configuration/unsupported_layout: true
* keyboard-configuration/variantcode:
* keyboard-configuration/model: Generic 105-key (Intl) PC
* keyboard-configuration/layoutcode: us
* keyboard-configuration/other:
* keyboard-configuration/store_defaults_in_debconf_db: true
* keyboard-configuration/optionscode:

This was the keyboard type the installer picked when I installed Wheezy.  I saw reason to change it.

The keyboard itself is a Kensington Keyboard for Life that has to be at least 6 years old, and I've been using it on this system I build about 9 years ago which has gone through numerous hardware upgrades and OSes in those 9 years.

B
 

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#160590

On Sun, November 15, 2015 12:00 pm, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> As I don't run a desktop (window manager only -- Openbox) on my very
> custom installed Wheezy 64-bit system, I can't follow your menu request,
> but 'debconf-show keyboard-configuration' reports:

Thanks for introducing me to debconf-show.  One of the best parts about
the list is that it calls attention to such useful but generally-unknown
tools.

Russ

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#160604

On Sun, 15 Nov 2015, rlharris@oplink.net wrote:

> On Sun, November 15, 2015 12:00 pm, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > As I don't run a desktop (window manager only -- Openbox) on my very
> > custom installed Wheezy 64-bit system, I can't follow your menu
> > request, but 'debconf-show keyboard-configuration' reports:
> 
> Thanks for introducing me to debconf-show.  One of the best parts
> about the list is that it calls attention to such useful but
> generally-unknown tools.

A wealth of information awaits by following-up on the "SEE
ALSO" section of every man page.

B

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#160592

On 11/14/2015 09:01 PM, rlharris@oplink.net wrote:
> Would some kindly soul who is a English (US) QWERTY user and who is
> running Jessie on an i386 system follow the path:
>
> applications -> setting -> keyboard -> layout
>
> and tell me which is the default English (US) layout which is selected by
> the installer?

I just did a fresh install of debian-8.2.0-amd64-xfce yesterday:

     Keyboard model	Generic 105-key (Intl) PC


David

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#160594

On 11/15/2015 03:10 PM, David Christensen wrote:
> On 11/14/2015 09:01 PM, rlharris@oplink.net wrote:
>> Would some kindly soul who is a English (US) QWERTY user and who is
>> running Jessie on an i386 system follow the path:
>>
>> applications -> setting -> keyboard -> layout
>>
>> and tell me which is the default English (US) layout which is selected by
>> the installer?

I get "English US" using AMD64 - Stretch. Dunno if that is different on 
i386.

-- 
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html

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