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  Iceweasel updates Jack Dangler <tdldev@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 13:30 +0100
    Re: Iceweasel updates Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2015-11-02 13:40 +0100
      Re: Iceweasel updates Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2015-11-02 13:50 +0100
        Re: Iceweasel updates Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-11-02 14:10 +0100
          Re: Iceweasel updates Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2015-11-02 14:20 +0100
            Re: Iceweasel updates Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-11-02 14:50 +0100
              Re: Iceweasel updates Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2015-11-02 15:00 +0100
                Re: Iceweasel updates Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-11-02 16:10 +0100
                  Re: Iceweasel updates Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2015-11-02 23:10 +0100
                    Re: Iceweasel updates Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-11-03 00:00 +0100
                      Re: Iceweasel updates Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2015-11-03 03:00 +0100
                        Re: Iceweasel updates Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-11-03 15:00 +0100
                          Re: Iceweasel updates Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2015-11-04 15:00 +0100
                            Re: Iceweasel updates Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-11-04 21:00 +0100
                      Re: Iceweasel updates Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2015-11-03 09:30 +0100
                        Re: Iceweasel updates Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-11-03 11:10 +0100
                          Re: Iceweasel updates David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-11-03 15:30 +0100
    Re: Iceweasel updates Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2015-11-02 14:00 +0100
    Re: Iceweasel updates Alex Moonshine <moonshine@openmailbox.org> - 2015-11-02 14:20 +0100
      Re: Iceweasel updates Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2015-11-02 14:30 +0100
        Re: Iceweasel updates Alex Moonshine <moonshine@openmailbox.org> - 2015-11-02 15:20 +0100
          Re: Iceweasel updates Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-11-03 05:40 +0100
      Re: Iceweasel updates Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-11-02 14:40 +0100
    Re: Iceweasel updates Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2015-11-02 14:40 +0100
      Re: Iceweasel updates John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-11-02 15:10 +0100
        Re: Iceweasel updates Charlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com> - 2015-11-02 15:30 +0100
          Re: Iceweasel updates Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2015-11-02 15:40 +0100
            Re: Iceweasel updates Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 16:20 +0100
          Re: Iceweasel updates Markus Schönhaber <debian-user@list-post.mks-mail.de> - 2015-11-02 15:40 +0100
          Re: Iceweasel updates Jack Dangler <tdldev@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 17:50 +0100
            Re: Iceweasel updates Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-11-02 19:00 +0100
    Re: Iceweasel updates Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-11-03 05:30 +0100

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#160118

On 11/02/2015 03:22 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> But some videos are not supported with official precompiled Firefox 
> versions due to obsolete gstreamer: 
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=947287

Oh, right. I use gstreamer from http://www.deb-multimedia.org/
Yes, I know I just said using 3-rd party repos are bothersome :) 
Deb-multimedia is somewhat of an exception, I've been using it for a 
long time (since squeeze, I think).

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#160155

On Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 04:13:44PM +0200, Alex Moonshine wrote:
> 
> 
> On 11/02/2015 03:22 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> >But some videos are not supported with official precompiled Firefox
> >versions due to obsolete gstreamer:
> >https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=947287
> 
> Oh, right. I use gstreamer from http://www.deb-multimedia.org/
> Yes, I know I just said using 3-rd party repos are bothersome :)
> Deb-multimedia is somewhat of an exception, I've been using it for a long
> time (since squeeze, I think).

JFTR, http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ nerfed my system, I spend a
good couple of hours fixing it. The maintainer of
http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ doesn't play nice, e.g. the package
versions are deliberately made higher than the official Debian ones.

-- 
"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
oppressing." --- Malcolm X

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#160114

On Mon 02 Nov 2015 at 15:10:55 +0200, Alex Moonshine wrote:

> Not really a solution to OPs problem, but I've decided that it's much
> easier to just use a stand-alone precompiled Firefox downloaded from
> Mozilla website, which happily updates itself. Debian's update policy
> for Iceweasel is far from ideal or comprehensive, using third-party
> repositories is bothersome, additionally, my bank's website simply
> refuses to work with any version of Iceweasel, apparently, because the
> userstring doesn't contain anything it looks for
> (Chrome/Firefox/IE/Safari), which is of course stupid in it's own
> right.

It takes a minute or two to download and change the user-agent string
with xul-ext-useragentswitcher.

We've had "lazy" and "stupid" for this behaviour of admins; could we add
"braindead"?

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#160113

On Monday 02 November 2015 07:19:46 Jack Dangler wrote:

> Got a msg this morning from online bank service that my browser
> (iceweasel) is no longer up to date (equates to ff31) and wants to
> 'either update your browser to a compatible version or install one of
> the following - [list of usual suspects].
> The next version of iceweasel i found in deb packages is 41 (quite a
> jump), but says it is likely buggy (i'm guessing its in experimental).
> Has anyone installed this version and had significant issues with it?
> I'm stuck for online banking without it unless i install ff or chrome
> which I'd rather not do at this point. Thanks for any input/advice.
>
> Jack

iceweasel is slowly turning into a space on my drive waster.  38.3.0, on 
wheezy here, and it refused to go to a site link in an email message, 
where I could confirm I wanted to opt in to a new server one of my 
mailing list memberships is moving to, getting away from yahell.  That 
forced the list-owner to have to do it by hand.

It even offered to retry it, but that failed also, with it reporting that 
the destination port was not one normally used for that service and that 
it had canceled that request.

'Scuse me but how can I turn that nannying off?

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#160117

Jack Dangler wrote:
> The next version of iceweasel i found in deb packages is 41 (quite a
> jump), but says it is likely buggy (i'm guessing its in experimental).

Unstable has 38.3.  Works fine.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#160119

On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 08:00:59 -0600
John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> wrote:

>Jack Dangler wrote:
>> The next version of iceweasel i found in deb packages is 41 (quite a
>> jump), but says it is likely buggy (i'm guessing its in experimental).  
>
>Unstable has 38.3.  Works fine.

The stable release of Firefox is Version 41.0.2, released Oct 15.
Doesn't that make 38 old?


-- 
Charlie Kravetz
Linux Registered User Number 425914
[http://linuxcounter.net/user/425914.html]
Never let anyone steal your DREAM.   [http://keepingdreams.com]

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#160120

On 2015-11-02 07:23:07 -0700, Charlie Kravetz wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 08:00:59 -0600
> John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> wrote:
> 
> >Jack Dangler wrote:
> >> The next version of iceweasel i found in deb packages is 41 (quite a
> >> jump), but says it is likely buggy (i'm guessing its in experimental).  
> >
> >Unstable has 38.3.  Works fine.
> 
> The stable release of Firefox is Version 41.0.2, released Oct 15.

Stable, but not ESR.

> Doesn't that make 38 old?

No, 38 is still the latest ESR release.

-- 
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100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: <https://www.vinc17.net/blog/>
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#160126

On Monday 02 November 2015 14:34:49 Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2015-11-02 07:23:07 -0700, Charlie Kravetz wrote:
> > On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 08:00:59 -0600
> >
> > John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> wrote:
> > >Jack Dangler wrote:
> > >> The next version of iceweasel i found in deb packages is 41 (quite a
> > >> jump), but says it is likely buggy (i'm guessing its in experimental).
> > >
> > >Unstable has 38.3.  Works fine.
> >
> > The stable release of Firefox is Version 41.0.2, released Oct 15.
>
> Stable, but not ESR.
>
> > Doesn't that make 38 old?
>
> No, 38 is still the latest ESR release.

I have 41.0.2 on Wheezy with 
deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ wheezy-backports iceweasel-release
in my sources list.

Lisi

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#160121

Am 02.11.2015 um 15:23 schrieb Charlie Kravetz:

> The stable release of Firefox is Version 41.0.2, released Oct 15.
> Doesn't that make 38 old?

No, it doesn't.
38.x is the currently stable extended support release (ESR) of Firefox.

-- 
Regards
  mks

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#160132

On Mon, 2015-11-02 at 07:23 -0700, Charlie Kravetz wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 08:00:59 -0600
> John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> wrote:
> 
> >Jack Dangler wrote:
> >> The next version of iceweasel i found in deb packages is 41 (quite a
> >> jump), but says it is likely buggy (i'm guessing its in experimental).  
> >
> >Unstable has 38.3.  Works fine.
> 
> The stable release of Firefox is Version 41.0.2, released Oct 15.
> Doesn't that make 38 old?
> 
> 
I added unstable main to my apt sources as - 
'deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main'

apt-get update ran fine.

On asking to install the unastable iceweasel as - 
apt-get -t unstable install iceweasel

I get quite a large list of packages but did not notice iceweasel among
them.

Is there something I missed or should I allow the long list of packages
to install? (the list isn't here as it is fairly large but I can supply
it. Again, thanks for the input.

Regards

Jack

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#160134

On Mon 02 Nov 2015 at 11:42:50 -0500, Jack Dangler wrote:

> On Mon, 2015-11-02 at 07:23 -0700, Charlie Kravetz wrote:
> > On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 08:00:59 -0600
> > John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> wrote:
> > 
> > >Jack Dangler wrote:
> > >> The next version of iceweasel i found in deb packages is 41 (quite a
> > >> jump), but says it is likely buggy (i'm guessing its in experimental).  
> > >
> > >Unstable has 38.3.  Works fine.
> > 
> > The stable release of Firefox is Version 41.0.2, released Oct 15.
> > Doesn't that make 38 old?
> > 
> > 
> I added unstable main to my apt sources as - 
> 'deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main'
> 
> apt-get update ran fine.
> 
> On asking to install the unastable iceweasel as - 
> apt-get -t unstable install iceweasel
> 
> I get quite a large list of packages but did not notice iceweasel among
> them.

Iceweasel is effectively the same in stable and unstable.

> Is there something I missed or should I allow the long list of packages
> to install? (the list isn't here as it is fairly large but I can supply
> it. Again, thanks for the input.

Allow? You've allowed your bank to dictate how you use your computer, so
why not? But no, don't allow. Abandon this installation and seek another
route to get to your money.

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#160154

On Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 07:19:46AM -0500, Jack Dangler wrote:
> Got a msg this morning from online bank service that my browser
> (iceweasel) is no longer up to date (equates to ff31) and wants to
> 'either update your browser to a compatible version or install one of
> the following - [list of usual suspects].

Change banks, that's crap. 

-- 
"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
oppressing." --- Malcolm X

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