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Suitable USB WiFi Adapter

Started byTim McDonough <tmcdonough@gmail.com>
First post2015-10-28 21:10 +0100
Last post2015-11-04 11:40 +0100
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  Suitable USB WiFi Adapter Tim McDonough <tmcdonough@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 21:10 +0100
    Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> - 2015-10-28 22:10 +0100
    Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2015-10-28 23:50 +0100
      Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-29 00:10 +0100
    Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-28 23:50 +0100
      Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2015-10-29 02:00 +0100
        Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-29 03:20 +0100
          Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter Tim McDonough <tmcdonough@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 05:10 +0100
          Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2015-10-30 05:00 +0100
        Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter Safwat <softwatt@gmx.com> - 2015-10-29 16:40 +0100
    Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-10-29 06:10 +0100
      Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2015-10-29 06:30 +0100
        Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter Tim McDonough <tmcdonough@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 13:50 +0100
          Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2015-10-29 14:50 +0100
            Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> - 2015-10-29 16:30 +0100
              Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2015-10-29 18:00 +0100
                Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-10-30 07:30 +0100
          Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2015-10-29 17:30 +0100
            Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter Tim McDonough <tmcdonough@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 19:10 +0100
        Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> - 2015-10-29 17:40 +0100
          Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter Robert Crawford <webguytx@gmail.com> - 2015-10-29 17:50 +0100
      Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-29 06:30 +0100
        Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-10-29 10:00 +0100
          Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2015-10-29 16:40 +0100
            Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-29 17:00 +0100
            Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2015-10-29 18:00 +0100
            Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-10-30 07:20 +0100
    Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2015-10-29 17:40 +0100
      Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter Tim McDonough <tmcdonough@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 01:50 +0100
      Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2015-11-03 18:00 +0100
        Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2015-11-04 11:40 +0100

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#159977

FromRobert Crawford <webguytx@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-29 17:50 +0100
Message-ID<qoYyK-2ET-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#159976

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On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> wrote:

> On Wed, 2015-10-28 at 21:22 -0400, Doug wrote:
> > > https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-n-dual-band
> > > -usb-adapter-gnu-linux-tpe-nusbdb
> > >
> > > https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-n-usb-adapt
> > > er-gnu-linux-tpe-n150usb
> > >
> > > https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-g-usb-adapt
> > > er
> > >
> > >
> > I would get the first of these, _if_ your Linux is on the list. (Mine
> > is not.)
>
> Just check if the driver is in the mainline kernel, and it should be
> supported on any Linux, unless the distribution for some reason decides
> to strip it out.
>
> In this case it seems to be covered by the ath9k_htc driver:
> http://www.linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k_htc/
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Sven Arvidsson
> http://www.whiz.se
> PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5
>
> ​I use ralink chipset I get from ebay.com. It works with Debian with
> ralink driver available in repos.
>

​http://goo.gl/A4xfoN​

​

> ​
>
>
>

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#159953

Fromrlharris@oplink.net
Date2015-10-29 06:30 +0100
Message-ID<qoNWF-4sh-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#159951
On Thu, October 29, 2015 12:05 am, moxalt wrote:
> https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-n-dual-band-usb-a
> dapter-gnu-linux-tpe-nusbdb
>
> https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-n-usb-adapter-gnu
> -linux-tpe-n150usb
>
> https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-g-usb-adapter

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2091418/asus-usb-ac56-review-feature-rich-and-very-fast.html

It seems to me that with respect to Wi-Fi, Debian has progressed beyond
the state in which one needs to overly cautious regarding compatibility. 
And I think that the same can be said of web cams.  Nowadays, most
commonly used apparatus "just works".

And with Jessie, even UEFI is becoming manageable.

Russ

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#159955

Frommoxalt <moxalt@riseup.net>
Date2015-10-29 10:00 +0100
Message-ID<qoRdU-6n7-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#159953
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 00:22:34 -0500, rlharris@oplink.net wrote:

> It seems to me that with respect to Wi-Fi, Debian has progressed beyond
> the state in which one needs to overly cautious regarding compatibility. 
> And I think that the same can be said of web cams.  Nowadays, most
> commonly used apparatus "just works".

Most commonly used apparatus might 'just work', but certainly not with free
software. If OP wants to buy a new USB wifi adapter anyway, he/she might as
well get one which respects their freedom.

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#159967

FromDoug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net>
Date2015-10-29 16:40 +0100
Message-ID<qoXsZ-20k-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#159955

On 10/29/2015 04:50 AM, moxalt wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 00:22:34 -0500, rlharris@oplink.net wrote:
>
>> It seems to me that with respect to Wi-Fi, Debian has progressed beyond
>> the state in which one needs to overly cautious regarding compatibility.
>> And I think that the same can be said of web cams.  Nowadays, most
>> commonly used apparatus "just works".
> Most commonly used apparatus might 'just work', but certainly not with free
> software. If OP wants to buy a new USB wifi adapter anyway, he/she might as
> well get one which respects their freedom.
>
>
A few months ago I bought a Pyle surveilance-type camera. Supposed to
be controllable by wireless from the computer. When I got it, I discovered
it only has drivers for Windows. I don't think there is any software for it for
Linux, free or otherwise.
(If anybody know of such, please let me know! I am not averse to paying
for it, if it is reasonable.)

--doug

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#159969

Fromrlharris@oplink.net
Date2015-10-29 17:00 +0100
Message-ID<qoXMn-26W-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#159967
On Thu, October 29, 2015 10:34 am, Doug wrote:
> A few months ago I bought a Pyle surveilance-type camera. Supposed to
> be controllable by wireless from the computer. When I got it, I discovered
>  it only has drivers for Windows.

I said, "commonly used."  Either "surveillance" or "controllable by
wireless" places the device in a very different category.

Russ

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#159979

FromJude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com>
Date2015-10-29 18:00 +0100
Message-ID<qoYIq-2IU-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#159967
And certainly not with debian since debian hasn't got netctl.  I forgot 
one command in my last post.  This is the first one to do after installing 
dialog and iw and wpa_supplicant since netcal comes pre-installed.  The 
correct order of commands is: wifi-menu -o netctl list netctl enable 
network-string-returned-by-netctl-list. On Thu, 29 Oct 2015, Doug wrote:

> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 11:34:47
> From: Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net>
> To: moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net>, debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Suitable USB WiFi Adapter
> Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:35:07 +0000 (UTC)
> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> 
>
>
> On 10/29/2015 04:50 AM, moxalt wrote:
>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 00:22:34 -0500, rlharris@oplink.net wrote:
>> 
>>> It seems to me that with respect to Wi-Fi, Debian has progressed beyond
>>> the state in which one needs to overly cautious regarding compatibility.
>>> And I think that the same can be said of web cams.  Nowadays, most
>>> commonly used apparatus "just works".
>> Most commonly used apparatus might 'just work', but certainly not with free
>> software. If OP wants to buy a new USB wifi adapter anyway, he/she might as
>> well get one which respects their freedom.
>> 
>> 
> A few months ago I bought a Pyle surveilance-type camera. Supposed to
> be controllable by wireless from the computer. When I got it, I discovered
> it only has drivers for Windows. I don't think there is any software for it 
> for
> Linux, free or otherwise.
> (If anybody know of such, please let me know! I am not averse to paying
> for it, if it is reasonable.)
>
> --doug
>
>

-- 

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#159993

Frommoxalt <moxalt@riseup.net>
Date2015-10-30 07:20 +0100
Message-ID<qpbcB-2eE-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#159967
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 11:34:47 -0400, Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> wrote:

> (If anybody know of such, please let me know! I am not averse to paying
> for it, if it is reasonable.)

I was talking about software that is free as in freedom, not as in price. Libre
software, if you will.

https://www.fsf.org/about/what-is-free-software

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#159975

FromDarac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk>
Date2015-10-29 17:40 +0100
Message-ID<qoYp4-2B4-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#159927

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On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 03:03:10PM -0500, Tim McDonough wrote:

>The older Dell laptop that I use for my mobile work has a broken 
>internal WiFi adapter. I'd like to get a recommendation on a USB 
>"stick" type adapter that plays well with Debian and Linux in general. 
>Since I have nothing now I'd just as soon get one that covers as many 
>WiFi modes as is practical... plan for the future.

Just a thought, have you considered just replacing the internal wireless 
card? As far as I can tell, it's a regular Mini-PCI-E card and should be 
accessible under a flap on the bottom of the laptop. Something like an 
Intel 7260 should work nicely. 802.11a/b/g/n/ac plus Bluetooth 4.0 and 
it should work well with the iwlwifi driver.

>
>Suggestions?
>
>Tim
>

-- For more information, please reread.

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#160012

FromTim McDonough <tmcdonough@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-31 01:50 +0100
Message-ID<qpswN-4lU-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#159975
On 10/29/2015 11:32 AM, Darac Marjal wrote:
> Just a thought, have you considered just replacing the internal 
> wireless card? As far as I can tell, it's a regular Mini-PCI-E card 
> and should be accessible under a flap on the bottom of the laptop. 
> Something like an Intel 7260 should work nicely. 802.11a/b/g/n/ac plus 
> Bluetooth 4.0 and it should work well with the iwlwifi driver.

I briefly though of that but when it was working the internal one used 
proprietary drivers/firmware to work with Linux. Also, if I change 
laptops the new one have a new radio built-in and I wanted it to be able 
to use the new adapter elsewhere if needed.

Thanks for the suggestion though.

Tim

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#160182

FromStefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Date2015-11-03 18:00 +0100
Message-ID<qqN6a-5mL-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#159975
> Just a thought, have you considered just replacing the internal wireless
> card? As far as I can tell, it's a regular Mini-PCI-E card and should be
> accessible under a flap on the bottom of the laptop. Something like an Intel
> 7260 should work nicely. 802.11a/b/g/n/ac plus Bluetooth 4.0 and it should
> work well with the iwlwifi driver.

I can't seem to find any info about whether or not the 7260 card is able
to use *simultaneously* the 2.4GHz and the 5GHz bands (e.g. when setup
as access point).


        Stefan

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#160200

FromCurt <curty@free.fr>
Date2015-11-04 11:40 +0100
Message-ID<qr3DX-7Fs-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#160182
On 2015-11-03, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>> Just a thought, have you considered just replacing the internal wireless
>> card? As far as I can tell, it's a regular Mini-PCI-E card and should be
>> accessible under a flap on the bottom of the laptop. Something like an Intel
>> 7260 should work nicely. 802.11a/b/g/n/ac plus Bluetooth 4.0 and it should
>> work well with the iwlwifi driver.
>
> I can't seem to find any info about whether or not the 7260 card is able
> to use *simultaneously* the 2.4GHz and the 5GHz bands (e.g. when setup
> as access point).
>
>

This man says no it is not (possible):

http://vincent.bernat.im/en/blog/2014-intel-7260-access-point.html

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