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  Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site Abou Al Montacir <abou.almontacir@sfr.fr> - 2015-10-27 09:30 +0100
    Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> - 2015-10-27 10:20 +0100
      Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2015-10-27 18:10 +0100
        Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> - 2015-10-27 21:00 +0100
          Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 23:10 +0100
            Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> - 2015-10-28 09:30 +0100
              Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 12:10 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-28 14:30 +0100
                  Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 16:50 +0100
        Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 23:10 +0100
    Re: System craches when browsing a web site Glenn English <ghe@slsware.net> - 2015-10-27 20:10 +0100
      Re: System craches when browsing a web site Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 23:10 +0100
      Re: System craches when browsing a web site Abou Al Montacir <abou.almontacir@sfr.fr> - 2015-10-27 23:40 +0100

#159843 — Re: Fwd: Re: System craches when browsing a web site

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On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 07:43 +0000, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> ----------  Forwarded Message  ----------
> 
> Subject: Re: System craches when browsing a web site
> Date: Tuesday 27 October 2015, 01:39:58
> From: Glenn English <ghe@slsware.net>
> To: debianUsers <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> 
> 
> On Oct 26, 2015, at 4:30 PM, Abou Al Montacir <abou.almontacir@sfr.fr> wrote:
> 
> > What fellow users think?
> 
> Toss the sucker and get one that works. There are billions and billions of 
> browsers around. Even some that aren't Microsoft or Mozilla :-)
> 
> And, no, Debian shouldn't do more than complain mildly when the browser has a 
> problem -- Debian stable has been bulletproof in my experience. But if a 
> connection error isn't being handled by the browser that tried to make the 
> connection, the browser was designed and written by folks who made one or 
> more big mistakes. Unless something really interesting is going on in 
> Debian's IP stack.
> 
> I hear that Google's Chromium works or Opera, to name a couple biggies.
> 
> You really don't need this. And the fix is (probably) simple.
> 
> -- 
> Glenn English
It is not about a buggy program, it is about a stable system, I don't care about
epiphany, I can use an other browser as you said, but just care about a stable
OS!
-- 
Cheers,
Abou Al Montacir

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#159847

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On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 09:27 +0100, Abou Al Montacir wrote:
> It is not about a buggy program, it is about a stable system, I don't
> care about
> epiphany, I can use an other browser as you said, but just care about
> a stable
> OS!

Debian, and Linux in general, does handle buggy programs. But without
specifics, it's hard to say what where and why the bug is.

If Epiphany starts eating RAM, the OOM-killer should handle it, if it's
a problem with a hang in the GPU, it should be reset. 

Before filing a bug, you, or anyone else who can reproduce the bug need
to investigate. 

I cc'ed you, but consider subscribing. 

-- 
Cheers,
Sven Arvidsson
http://www.whiz.se
PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5

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#159860

On 2015-10-27, Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> wrote:
>
> If Epiphany starts eating RAM, the OOM-killer should handle it, if it's
> a problem with a hang in the GPU, it should be reset.=20
>
> Before filing a bug, you, or anyone else who can reproduce the bug need
> to investigate.

Somebody filed a bug report on October 19th.

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=802380

Sounds similar to the OP's problem (but instead of blinq.com it's
a specific article on reuters.com--go figure).

Nvidia video card with the nouveau driver.

Nvidia sure has crashed its share of machines in its time (well, one
driver or another has, but without the driver the card's just a
rectangular frisbee or something). 

Or are they still rectangular?

> I cc'ed you, but consider subscribing.
>
> Cheers,
> Sven Arvidsson
> http://www.whiz.se
> PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5

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#159864

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On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 17:07 +0000, Curt wrote:
> Somebody filed a bug report on October 19th.
> 
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=802380
> 
> Sounds similar to the OP's problem (but instead of blinq.com it's
> a specific article on reuters.com--go figure).
> 
> Nvidia video card with the nouveau driver.
> 
> Nvidia sure has crashed its share of machines in its time (well, one
> driver or another has, but without the driver the card's just a
> rectangular frisbee or something). 
> 
> Or are they still rectangular?

Probably the same, I get the same behaviour on both sites, with an AMD
GPU.

-- 
Cheers,
Sven Arvidsson
http://www.whiz.se
PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5

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#159874

Forwarded to unsubscribed OP
Lisi


On Tuesday 27 October 2015 19:53:11 Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 17:07 +0000, Curt wrote:
> > Somebody filed a bug report on October 19th.
> >
> > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=802380
> >
> > Sounds similar to the OP's problem (but instead of blinq.com it's
> > a specific article on reuters.com--go figure).
> >
> > Nvidia video card with the nouveau driver.
> >
> > Nvidia sure has crashed its share of machines in its time (well, one
> > driver or another has, but without the driver the card's just a
> > rectangular frisbee or something).
> >
> > Or are they still rectangular?
>
> Probably the same, I get the same behaviour on both sites, with an AMD
> GPU.

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#159891

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On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 22:02 +0000, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> Forwarded to unsubscribed OP
> Lisi

I keep forgetting, thanks for doing this! 

-- 
Cheers,
Sven Arvidsson
http://www.whiz.se
PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5

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#159895

On Wednesday 28 October 2015 08:19:50 Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 22:02 +0000, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > Forwarded to unsubscribed OP
> > Lisi
>
> I keep forgetting, thanks for doing this!

You're welcome.  It's terribly difficult to remember.  Or very easy to forget.  
I am over-sensitive to it at the moment, after my recent "discussion" on the 
subject of CC's.

Lisi

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#159899

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On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:02:51AM +0000, Lisi Reisz wrote:

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> You're welcome.  It's terribly difficult to remember.  Or very easy to forget.  
> I am over-sensitive to it at the moment, after my recent "discussion" on the 
> subject of CC's.

And I still feel a bit guilty. Oh, well :-)

Cheers,
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#159912

On Wednesday 28 October 2015 12:54:08 tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
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> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:02:51AM +0000, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > You're welcome.  It's terribly difficult to remember.  Or very easy to
> > forget. I am over-sensitive to it at the moment, after my recent
> > "discussion" on the subject of CC's.
>
> And I still feel a bit guilty. Oh, well :-)

:-)  And I so carefully didn't name you. ;-)

Lisi

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#159872

Forwarded to unsubscribed OP

Lisi

On Tuesday 27 October 2015 17:07:47 Curt wrote:
> On 2015-10-27, Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> wrote:
> > If Epiphany starts eating RAM, the OOM-killer should handle it, if it's
> > a problem with a hang in the GPU, it should be reset.=20
> >
> > Before filing a bug, you, or anyone else who can reproduce the bug need
> > to investigate.
>
> Somebody filed a bug report on October 19th.
>
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=802380
>
> Sounds similar to the OP's problem (but instead of blinq.com it's
> a specific article on reuters.com--go figure).
>
> Nvidia video card with the nouveau driver.
>
> Nvidia sure has crashed its share of machines in its time (well, one
> driver or another has, but without the driver the card's just a
> rectangular frisbee or something).
>
> Or are they still rectangular?
>
> > I cc'ed you, but consider subscribing.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Sven Arvidsson
> > http://www.whiz.se
> > PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5

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#159862

On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:27 AM, Abou Al Montacir <abou.almontacir@sfr.fr> wrote:

> It is not about a buggy program, it is about a stable system,

Ya' know, it might well not be Linux problem, but Gnome that's freezing your computer. Have you tried XFCE or KDE? Or, just to check, lynx from a genuine command line terminal? (There won't be any pictures from lynx, but you'll be able to tell if the connection is successful, and it would eliminate a variable or two in the troubleshooting -- like the entire collection of GUIs.)

And thanks, Lisi, for forwarding things for me before I noticed that Abou wasn't subscribed.

-- 
Glenn English

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#159873

On Tuesday 27 October 2015 18:59:59 Glenn English wrote:
> And thanks, Lisi, for forwarding things for me before I noticed that Abou
> wasn't subscribed.

You're welcome - I have been left rather noticing such things after that 
latest thread. ;-)  I have been remiss in the past.

Lisi

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#159875

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On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 12:59 -0600, Glenn English wrote:
> On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:27 AM, Abou Al Montacir <abou.almontacir@sfr.fr> wrote:
> 
> > It is not about a buggy program, it is about a stable system,
> 
> Ya' know, it might well not be Linux problem, but Gnome that's freezing your
> computer. Have you tried XFCE or KDE? Or, just to check, lynx from a genuine
> command line terminal? (There won't be any pictures from lynx, but you'll be
> able to tell if the connection is successful, and it would eliminate a
> variable or two in the troubleshooting -- like the entire collection of GUIs.)
> 
> And thanks, Lisi, for forwarding things for me before I noticed that Abou
> wasn't subscribed.
> 
Yes, the site works perfectly with iceweasel, but as I already said, I found it
strange that system freezes due to a program.
I'm going to test Peter's suggestion of limits.conf  that looks nice (at least
nicer than using iceweasel or chrome!).
-- 
Cheers,
Abou Al Montacir

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