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  alsa troubles Glenn English <ghe@slsware.net> - 2015-10-19 18:40 +0200
    Re: alsa troubles <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-19 18:50 +0200
      Re: alsa troubles Glenn English <ghe@slsware.net> - 2015-10-19 19:40 +0200
      Re: alsa troubles Elimar Riesebieter <riesebie@lxtec.de> - 2015-10-19 22:10 +0200
        Re: alsa troubles Glenn English <ghe@slsware.net> - 2015-10-19 23:00 +0200
          Re: alsa troubles Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 23:40 +0200
            Re: alsa troubles Glenn English <ghe@slsware.net> - 2015-10-20 00:00 +0200
              Re: alsa troubles Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-20 00:10 +0200
                Re: alsa troubles Glenn English <ghe@slsware.net> - 2015-10-20 00:20 +0200
                  Re: alsa troubles Alex Moonshine <moonshine@openmailbox.org> - 2015-10-20 01:00 +0200
                    Re: alsa troubles <briand@aracnet.com> - 2015-10-20 06:50 +0200
                Re: alsa troubles Glenn English <ghe@slsware.net> - 2015-10-20 00:50 +0200
                  Re: alsa troubles Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-20 01:00 +0200
                Re: alsa troubles Glenn English <ghe@slsware.net> - 2015-10-20 01:00 +0200
                  Re: alsa troubles Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-20 01:20 +0200
                    Re: alsa troubles Glenn English <ghe@slsware.net> - 2015-10-20 02:10 +0200
                      Re: alsa troubles Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-20 11:30 +0200
                  Re: alsa troubles <briand@aracnet.com> - 2015-10-20 06:50 +0200
              Re: alsa troubles Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2015-10-20 11:30 +0200
    Re: alsa troubles Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2015-10-19 19:00 +0200
      Re: alsa troubles Glenn English <ghe@slsware.net> - 2015-10-19 19:40 +0200
      Re: alsa troubles Glenn English <ghe@slsware.net> - 2015-10-19 22:50 +0200
        Re: alsa troubles Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2015-10-20 05:10 +0200
          Re: alsa troubles Glenn English <ghe@slsware.net> - 2015-10-20 20:40 +0200
            Re: alsa troubles Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2015-10-20 20:50 +0200

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#159460 — alsa troubles

I'm trying to get sound to work (most of my computers are used as servers, so it's usually not something I worry about). 

I'm running Wheezy on a SuperMicro 5036T-T box.

> root@sbox:~# lspci | egrep -i audio
> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller
> 03:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Cedar HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5400/6300 Series]

As best I can tell, that Intel chip is a valid sound chip for Wheezy, and this is the machine where I did a netinstall.

> root@sbox:~# alsamixer
> ALSA lib dlmisc.c:254:(snd1_dlobj_cache_get) Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so
> cannot open mixer: No such device or address

Going down that series of directories with 'ls <tab>', I don't seem to have alsa-lib. I looked on the web, and all I could find was source code for it. I doubt that compiling the code is required for such a (seemingly) common library.

'find / -iname "*alsa-lib*"' shows nothing anywhere.

I have a number of alsa-looking things installed. But, according to Aptitude, alsa-lib isn't in any of them:

> root@sbox:~# ls /var/cache/apt/archives/ | egrep -i alsa
> alsa-base_1.0.25+3~deb7u1_all.deb
> alsamixergui_0.9.0rc2-1-9.1_amd64.deb
> alsa-utils_1.0.25-4_amd64.deb
> gstreamer0.10-alsa_0.10.36-1.1_amd64.deb


Any thought or solutions? Like which package alsa-lib is in, or why it wasn't installed when I did the original install?

-- 
Glenn English

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#159463

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On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:32:38AM -0600, Glenn English wrote:
> I'm trying to get sound to work (most of my computers are used as servers, so it's usually not something I worry about). 
> 
> I'm running Wheezy on a SuperMicro 5036T-T box.
> 
> > root@sbox:~# lspci | egrep -i audio
> > 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller
> > 03:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Cedar HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5400/6300 Series]
> 
> As best I can tell, that Intel chip is a valid sound chip for Wheezy, and this is the machine where I did a netinstall.
> 
> > root@sbox:~# alsamixer
> > ALSA lib dlmisc.c:254:(snd1_dlobj_cache_get) Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so
> > cannot open mixer: No such device or address
> 
> Going down that series of directories with 'ls <tab>', I don't seem to have alsa-lib. I looked on the web, and all I could find was source code for it. I doubt that compiling the code is required for such a (seemingly) common library.
> 
> 'find / -iname "*alsa-lib*"' shows nothing anywhere.

What lets you think you need a package (or file) named alsa-lib?

There's no package alsa-lib; apt-file (recommended) shows a couple of
packages having directories with that name, and there's a virtual
package called just "alsa" -- I guess this will be all you need?

regards
- -- tomas
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#159468

On Oct 19, 2015, at 10:12 AM, <tomas@tuxteam.de> <tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote:


> What lets you think you need a package (or file) named alsa-lib?

>>> root@sbox:~# alsamixer
>>> ALSA lib dlmisc.c:254:(snd1_dlobj_cache_get) Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so
>>> cannot open mixer: No such device or address
>> 
>> Going down that series of directories with 'ls <tab>', I don't seem to have alsa-lib. I looked on the web, and all I could find was source code for it. I doubt that compiling the code is required for such a (seemingly) common library.

That running alsamixer says it can't run because of the above error message, and that the directory /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/alsa-lib/ doesn't exist on my machine.

> There's no package alsa-lib;

That would certainly explain why I couldn't find it :-)

> apt-file (recommended) shows a couple of
> packages having directories with that name,

I didn't know about apt-file, but it does find alsa-lib (and the module alsamixer was looking for) -- in libasound2-plugins, so I installed it. Now:

> root@sbox:~# alsamixer
> ALSA lib pulse.c:243:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Connection refused
> 
> cannot open mixer: Connection refused

Do I need to do something about pulsaAudio? I think I've read that it's possible to deal with just alsa. No? (I haven't done any audio work on Debian since the Lenny days.)

-- 
Glenn English

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#159476

* tomas@tuxteam.de <tomas@tuxteam.de> [2015-10-19 18:12 +0200]:

> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:32:38AM -0600, Glenn English wrote:
[...]
> > > root@sbox:~# alsamixer
> > > ALSA lib dlmisc.c:254:(snd1_dlobj_cache_get) Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so
> > > cannot open mixer: No such device or address
> > 
> > Going down that series of directories with 'ls <tab>', I don't
> > seem to have alsa-lib. I looked on the web, and all I could find
> > was source code for it. I doubt that compiling the code is
> > required for such a (seemingly) common library.
> > 
> > 'find / -iname "*alsa-lib*"' shows nothing anywhere.
> 
> What lets you think you need a package (or file) named alsa-lib?

He is right!

> There's no package alsa-lib; apt-file (recommended) shows a couple of
> packages having directories with that name, and there's a virtual
> package called just "alsa" -- I guess this will be all you need?

$ apt-file search libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so
libasound2-plugins: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so

Elimar
-- 
 Obviously the human brain works like a computer.
  Since there are no stupid computers humans can't be stupid.
  There are just a few running with Windows or even CE ;-)

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#159480

On 10/19/2015 02:04 PM, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:

> $ apt-file search libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so
> libasound2-plugins: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so

I did the same thing, got the same info, installed libasound2-plugins, 
got the same response as myself and as root:

ghe@sbox:~... alsamixer
ALSA lib pulse.c:243:(pulse_connect) Pulse Audio: Unable to connect: 
Connection refused

cannot open mixer: Connection refused
ghe@sbox:~... sudo alsamixer
ALSA lib pulse.c:243:(pulse_connect) Pulse Audio: Unable to connect: 
Connection refused

cannot open mixer: Connection refused

-- 
Glenn English

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#159483

On Monday 19 October 2015 21:53:15 Glenn English wrote:
> On 10/19/2015 02:04 PM, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> > $ apt-file search libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so
> > libasound2-plugins:
> > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so
>
> I did the same thing, got the same info, installed libasound2-plugins,
> got the same response as myself and as root:
>
> ghe@sbox:~... alsamixer
> ALSA lib pulse.c:243:(pulse_connect) Pulse Audio: Unable to connect:
> Connection refused
>
> cannot open mixer: Connection refused
> ghe@sbox:~... sudo alsamixer
> ALSA lib pulse.c:243:(pulse_connect) Pulse Audio: Unable to connect:
> Connection refused
>
> cannot open mixer: Connection refused

Since you appear to have Pulse Audio, why not use pavucontrol?

Lisi

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#159484

On 10/19/2015 03:39 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

> Since you appear to have Pulse Audio,

I didn't know I did :-)

why not use pavucontrol?

It asked me to have my sysadmin install pavucontrol. So I did When I ran 
it, and it said:

"Connection to PulseAudio failed..."

So maybe I really don't have PA? Or have I not configured something 
properly?

Since I didn't think PA was on this machine, I haven't done any audio 
configuration, alsa or Pulse.

-- 
Glenn English

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#159485

On Monday 19 October 2015 22:54:44 Glenn English wrote:
> On 10/19/2015 03:39 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > Since you appear to have Pulse Audio,
>
> I didn't know I did :-)
>
> why not use pavucontrol?
>
> It asked me to have my sysadmin install pavucontrol. So I did When I ran
> it, and it said:
>
> "Connection to PulseAudio failed..."
>
> So maybe I really don't have PA? Or have I not configured something
> properly?
>
> Since I didn't think PA was on this machine, I haven't done any audio
> configuration, alsa or Pulse.

Oh dear, it did say "unable to connect".  My mistake.

> ghe@sbox:~... alsamixer
> ALSA lib pulse.c:243:(pulse_connect) *
**Pulse Audio***: Unable to connect:
> Connection refused
>
> cannot open mixer: Connection refused
> ghe@sbox:~... sudo alsamixer
> ALSA lib pulse.c:243:(pulse_connect) ***Pulse Audio***: Unable to connect:
> Connection refused

I almost hardly dare say it, it is barely better than saying s*****d, but when 
I have a problem with sound, I install Pulse Audio, install pavucontrol, and 
have a look at what it says.  You do not have to be a sound engineer to 
understand it.  I can rarely make head or tails of alsamixer.

Lisi

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#159486

On 10/19/2015 04:04 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

> I almost hardly dare say it, it is barely better than saying s*****d, but when
> I have a problem with sound, I install Pulse Audio, install pavucontrol, and
> have a look at what it says.  You do not have to be a sound engineer to
> understand it.

I *am* a sound engineer. At least that's what I was before I switched to 
computers. Last time I played with sound in Debian was back when alsa 
was a shiny new thing.

I'll look into installing PulseAudio. pavucontrol did try to look nicer 
that the curses alsamixer.

I can rarely make head or tails of alsamixer.

I'm having a hard time just getting it to beep at me.

-- 
Glenn English

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#159491

On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 16:12:21 -0600
Glenn English <ghe@slsware.net> wrote:

> On 10/19/2015 04:04 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> 
> > I almost hardly dare say it, it is barely better than saying
> > s*****d, but when I have a problem with sound, I install Pulse
> > Audio, install pavucontrol, and have a look at what it says.  You
> > do not have to be a sound engineer to understand it.  
> 
> I'll look into installing PulseAudio. pavucontrol did try to look
> nicer that the curses alsamixer.
> 
> I can rarely make head or tails of alsamixer.
> 
> I'm having a hard time just getting it to beep at me.
> 

I take the risk of provoking some PA-hatemail, but I
usually can't be bothered to configure alsa at all. It never works out
of the box for me on Debian (maybe it's my Creative Audigy SE that it
doesn't like), and even when I can make it, dmix
still refuses to work, making it so that only one application can play
sound at a time. 

As for PA, I don't even know what config options for it look like, I
just install it and there's suddenly sound.

-- 
Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.

Best wishes,
Alex S.

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#159503

On Tue, 20 Oct 2015 01:54:34 +0300
Alex Moonshine <moonshine@openmailbox.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 16:12:21 -0600
> Glenn English <ghe@slsware.net> wrote:
> 
> > On 10/19/2015 04:04 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > 
> > > I almost hardly dare say it, it is barely better than saying
> > > s*****d, but when I have a problem with sound, I install Pulse
> > > Audio, install pavucontrol, and have a look at what it says.  You
> > > do not have to be a sound engineer to understand it.  
> > 
> > I'll look into installing PulseAudio. pavucontrol did try to look
> > nicer that the curses alsamixer.
> > 
> > I can rarely make head or tails of alsamixer.
> > 
> > I'm having a hard time just getting it to beep at me.
> > 
> 
> I take the risk of provoking some PA-hatemail, but I
> usually can't be bothered to configure alsa at all. It never works out
> of the box for me on Debian (maybe it's my Creative Audigy SE that it
> doesn't like), and even when I can make it, dmix
> still refuses to work, making it so that only one application can play
> sound at a time. 
> 

yep. i have that problem.

sound on linux is still kind of annoying.

Brian

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#159488

On 10/19/2015 04:04 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

> I almost hardly dare say it, it is barely better than saying s*****d, but when
> I have a problem with sound, I install Pulse Audio, install pavucontrol, and
> have a look at what it says.

Done. pavucontrol makes a pretty picture on my screen, with lots of 
buttons to click on and no complaints. I tried several that seemed 
promising.

Still no sound. There are several 3.5mm jacks on the back of the 
machine, one of which is supposed to be the headphone jack. I've plugged 
into all of them, and get clicks in some of them, but no Goldbergs yet.

I'm using VLC to check on things. I tried mpv (suggested earlier in 
another response), but it's still not installed, and I can't find it.

pavucontrol has, in its menus, several things mentioned in the 
Supermicro manual for this machine, so it looks like there's some 
interaction between pavucontrol and the motherboard. But it just won't 
make any noise.

-- 
Glenn English

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#159489

On Monday 19 October 2015 23:41:38 Glenn English wrote:
> On 10/19/2015 04:04 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > I almost hardly dare say it, it is barely better than saying s*****d, but
> > when I have a problem with sound, I install Pulse Audio, install
> > pavucontrol, and have a look at what it says.
>
> Done. pavucontrol makes a pretty picture on my screen, with lots of
> buttons to click on and no complaints. I tried several that seemed
> promising.
>
> Still no sound. There are several 3.5mm jacks on the back of the
> machine, one of which is supposed to be the headphone jack. I've plugged
> into all of them, and get clicks in some of them, but no Goldbergs yet.
>
> I'm using VLC to check on things. I tried mpv (suggested earlier in
> another response), but it's still not installed, and I can't find it.
>
> pavucontrol has, in its menus, several things mentioned in the
> Supermicro manual for this machine, so it looks like there's some
> interaction between pavucontrol and the motherboard. But it just won't
> make any noise.

What does it say under hardware?  Is it looking at the right hardware?  Does 
it say that it is plugged in and turned on?  Is it talking to the right sound 
card?  Speakers?  Is everything unmuted?  Turned up?

Come on!  I am not a sound engineer, and so far I have always managed to get 
pavucontrol to tell me eventually, somewhere, what the trouble is.

Lisi

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#159490

On 10/19/2015 04:04 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

> I almost hardly dare say it, it is barely better than saying s*****d, but when
> I have a problem with sound, I install Pulse Audio, install pavucontrol, and
> have a look at what it says.

I hear something! It's not very loud, and it's from the wrong jack, but 
there's a very quiet piano there. I turned on AC3 and MPEG in pavucontrol.

I'd sure like to know what I'm doing wrong, but I suspect that trial and 
error will eventually get it done.

Thanks very much, all of you, for your help. I'm told that PulseAudio is 
spawn of Satan, but it *is* working, at least a little bit.

-- 
Glenn English

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#159492

On Monday 19 October 2015 23:58:30 Glenn English wrote:
> On 10/19/2015 04:04 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > I almost hardly dare say it, it is barely better than saying s*****d, but
> > when I have a problem with sound, I install Pulse Audio, install
> > pavucontrol, and have a look at what it says.
>
> I hear something! It's not very loud, and it's from the wrong jack, but
> there's a very quiet piano there. I turned on AC3 and MPEG in pavucontrol.

Ah!  I had that earlier today.  V. faint on headphones.  Unplugged headphones, 
used netbook's built-in speakers and I had sound.

> I'd sure like to know what I'm doing wrong, but I suspect that trial and
> error will eventually get it done.
>
> Thanks very much, all of you, for your help. I'm told that PulseAudio is
> spawn of Satan, but it *is* working, at least a little bit.

It does.  Satan has all the best tunes.*

Lisi
* 
http://www.movements.net/2005/04/14/why-should-the-devil-have-all-the-best-tunes.html

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#159496

On 10/19/2015 05:16 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

> Ah!  I had that earlier today.  V. faint on headphones.  Unplugged headphones,
> used netbook's built-in speakers and I had sound.

Fix: go to pavucontrol and turn up the volume. That worked for me :-)

The motherboard sounds about like I expected it to: awful. Do any of you 
know off the top of your head how to get my RME Hammerfall card going on PA?

That's the card I used with alsa, and it was not at all a trivial job to 
get it going. But, lordie, the sound! It's what digital audio is capable 
of...

-- 
Glenn English

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#159518

On Tuesday 20 October 2015 01:05:34 Glenn English wrote:
> The motherboard sounds about like I expected it to: awful. Do any of you
> know off the top of your head how to get my RME Hammerfall card going on
> PA?

Go to "hardware" in pavucontrol and switch to it?  If "hardware" can't see it, 
is the driver installed now as opposed to before?  Are your speakers or 
whatever plugged into the right socket for that soundcard?

Lisi

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#159504

On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 16:58:30 -0600
Glenn English <ghe@slsware.net> wrote:

> On 10/19/2015 04:04 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> 
> > I almost hardly dare say it, it is barely better than saying s*****d, but when
> > I have a problem with sound, I install Pulse Audio, install pavucontrol, and
> > have a look at what it says.
> 
> 
> Thanks very much, all of you, for your help. I'm told that PulseAudio is 
> spawn of Satan, but it *is* working, at least a little bit.
> 

it's not .  it's just really complex under the hood.

just wait until it decides to put one of your devices into "standby".

naturally when you try to use it, it won't take it back out of standby.

also too, it will probably decide to switch default devices on you.

you'll need to add something to one of the PA config files to make sure it doesn't do that.

Brian

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#159519

To resolve this kind of problem I recommend finding each alsa package 
installed on that machine then have aptitude install each of them but 
put the -r switch on the end of that install command.  That will install 
recommended packages and once done this problem may disappear.

On Mon, 19 Oct 2015, Glenn English wrote:

> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 17:54:44
> From: Glenn English <ghe@slsware.net>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: alsa troubles
> Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 21:55:01 +0000 (UTC)
> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> 
> On 10/19/2015 03:39 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>
>> Since you appear to have Pulse Audio,
>
> I didn't know I did :-)
>
> why not use pavucontrol?
>
> It asked me to have my sysadmin install pavucontrol. So I did When I ran it, 
> and it said:
>
> "Connection to PulseAudio failed..."
>
> So maybe I really don't have PA? Or have I not configured something properly?
>
> Since I didn't think PA was on this machine, I haven't done any audio 
> configuration, alsa or Pulse.
>
>

-- 

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#159464

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Glenn English [2015-10-19 10:32:38-06] wrote:

>> root@sbox:~# lspci | egrep -i audio
>> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD
>> Audio Controller
>> 03:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Cedar HDMI
>> Audio [Radeon HD 5400/6300 Series]
>
> As best I can tell, that Intel chip is a valid sound chip for Wheezy,
> and this is the machine where I did a netinstall.

I would continue with "aplay -l". What does it say? Among other things
it should tell something like:

    card 0: blah blah [blah], device 0: blah [more blah]

Then you could try to put some music to that device:

    $ mpv music.mp3 --ao=alsa:device='[plughw:0,0]'

Where [plughw:0,0] has first the card number (0) and then the device
number (0).

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