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  Re: is google earth safe to install? "Torsten Rahn" <tackat@t-online.de> - 2015-10-10 22:40 +0200
    Re: is google earth safe to install? rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-10 23:30 +0200
      Re: is google earth safe to install? Timothy Hobbs <timothy@hobbs.cz> - 2015-10-10 23:40 +0200
        Re: is google earth safe to install? rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-11 00:00 +0200
        Re: is google earth safe to install? Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc.MT@yandex.com> - 2015-10-11 01:40 +0200
          Re: is google earth safe to install? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2015-10-11 11:40 +0200
            Re: is google earth safe to install? Timothy Hobbs <timothy@hobbs.cz> - 2015-10-11 17:00 +0200
              Re: is google earth safe to install? moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-10-11 20:10 +0200

#158804 — Re: is google earth safe to install?

Hi, 

> On Tue, September 1, 2015 9:47 am, Darac Marjal wrote:
> > In that case, consider "marble", which provides a similar "virtual
> > globe" and is LGPL 2.1+ licensed.
> > I did install marble.  Perhaps my installation is not correctly
> configured, but after seeing the detailed photograph of "Tour Eiffel" on
> the google.com website which advertises google earth, I am disappointed in
> marble.
> > For example, looking at London, I see nothing but pixels in shades of> green and tan.
> > RLH

you apparently looked at our "Atlas" map theme which just renders a classroom 
atlas. However Marble offers plenty of other map themes, like OpenStreetMap 
and others. Some even allow you to view the Tour Eiffel.

For more information check out our documentation

https://docs.kde.org/trunk5/en/kdeedu/marble/index.html

or

http://www.tuxarena.com/2014/10/marble-atlas-review-alternative-to-google-earth/

Technically it's even possible to view Google Maps/Earth map content using Marble 
although it's not officially supported.

Best Regards,
Torsten

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#158809

On Sat, October 10, 2015 3:20 pm, Torsten Rahn wrote:
Thanks, Torsen.

Over the past week I have been running Google Earth on an old machine in
an isolated, but it would be nice to have GE capability without the GE
liability.

I still have Marble installed, so I shall read over the documentation and
give Marble another try.

Regards,
Russell

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#158811

You could try running google-earth in subuser.org . But I don't 
recommend it, because I don't recommend using any non-free software ;).

Tim

On 10/10/15 23:29, rlharris@oplink.net wrote:
> On Sat, October 10, 2015 3:20 pm, Torsten Rahn wrote:
> Thanks, Torsen.
>
> Over the past week I have been running Google Earth on an old machine in
> an isolated, but it would be nice to have GE capability without the GE
> liability.
>
> I still have Marble installed, so I shall read over the documentation and
> give Marble another try.
>
> Regards,
> Russell
>
>
>

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#158814

On Sat, October 10, 2015 4:31 pm, Timothy Hobbs wrote:
> You could try running google-earth in subuser.org . But I don't
> recommend it, because I don't recommend using any non-free software ;).

Thanks, Tim.  This is the first I have heard of subuser.org.  I just
punched it up in the browser, and am going to take a look.

Russ

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#158823

Indeed, using any software makes you used to it, and dependent on it up 
to whatever extent you use it. With free software, you know that you 
have control over the software. You can rely on the community to do most 
of the job, and do for yourself what they won't do or you would do 
better (and contribute that to upstream). With proprietary software, you 
are making yourself dependent and handing the control of a part of your 
life (computing) to a company that only cares for profit; that's not 
security.

Also, most proprietary software is distributed without source. That 
precludes a real security audit, incentives the developer to be sloppy 
about security and to intentionally build anti-features into the 
software that work for his own interests and against those of the user, 
since it's unlikely that users will figure about these anti-features. 
There are many cases. Just to name one, think of the recent cases of VW 
and Lenovo with Superfish.

> is google earth safe to install?

You want to hear "yes, I have been using it for years with no incident", 
but that doesn't means it's secure. With the internals of the system 
hidden from you, you will never be able to trust it.

El 10/10/15 a las 16:31, Timothy Hobbs escribió:
> You could try running google-earth in subuser.org . But I don't
> recommend it, because I don't recommend using any non-free software ;).
>
> Tim
>
> On 10/10/15 23:29, rlharris@oplink.net wrote:
>> On Sat, October 10, 2015 3:20 pm, Torsten Rahn wrote:
>> Thanks, Torsen.
>>
>> Over the past week I have been running Google Earth on an old machine in
>> an isolated, but it would be nice to have GE capability without the GE
>> liability.
>>
>> I still have Marble installed, so I shall read over the documentation and
>> give Marble another try.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Russell
>>
>>
>>
>

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#158835

On 2015-10-10, Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc.MT@yandex.com> wrote:
>
> You want to hear "yes, I have been using it for years with no incident", 
> but that doesn't means it's secure. With the internals of the system 
> hidden from you, you will never be able to trust it.
>

That's what I tell my wife.

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#158872

PRISM has been watching you for years with no incident.

> On 2015-10-10, Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc.MT@yandex.com> wrote:
>> You want to hear "yes, I have been using it for years with no incident",
>> but that doesn't means it's secure. With the internals of the system
>> hidden from you, you will never be able to trust it.
>>
> That's what I tell my wife.
>

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#158890

PRISM has been watching me my entire life without incident. Yet.

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