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  Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi ray <ray@aarden.us> - 2015-10-12 14:10 +0200
    Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-12 14:20 +0200
      Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi ray <ray@aarden.us> - 2015-10-13 03:20 +0200
        Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 10:50 +0200
        Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi Manfred Constapel <whoopsie@gmx.de> - 2015-10-13 11:10 +0200
    Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> - 2015-10-12 14:20 +0200
      Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi ray <ray@aarden.us> - 2015-10-13 01:40 +0200
        Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-10-13 16:20 +0200
          Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi ray <ray@aarden.us> - 2015-10-13 21:50 +0200
            Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-10-15 07:30 +0200
              Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi ray <ray@aarden.us> - 2015-10-15 14:20 +0200
                Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-10-16 20:20 +0200
                  Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi ray <ray@aarden.us> - 2015-10-17 00:00 +0200
                    Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 00:20 +0200
                    Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-10-17 04:20 +0200
                      Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi ray <ray@aarden.us> - 2015-10-17 06:00 +0200
                        Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi ray <ray@aarden.us> - 2015-10-17 09:30 +0200
                          Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi ray <ray@aarden.us> - 2015-10-17 16:50 +0200
                            Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-10-17 18:10 +0200
              Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-10-16 04:30 +0200
    Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-10-12 16:20 +0200
      Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi ray <ray@aarden.us> - 2015-10-13 03:20 +0200
        Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-10-13 04:00 +0200
          Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi ray <ray@aarden.us> - 2015-10-13 16:40 +0200
        Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 10:50 +0200
          Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi ray <ray@aarden.us> - 2015-10-13 16:30 +0200
            Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 17:40 +0200
              Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-13 21:00 +0200
                Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 23:40 +0200
                  Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi ray <ray@aarden.us> - 2015-10-14 01:40 +0200

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#158956 — Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi

Installing stretch stops at detecting network devices.  This is an attempt to install stretch over the top of Windows 10 on a Toshiba Radius 15 with 2 each USB2 ports and 2 each USB3 ports, and no RJ-45.  Its wireless is based upon the Intel 7265.  

I tested this laptop with the latest Debian Live on a stick and all worked fine.  Now, I am attempting an installation of stretch from a stick.

Just before the presentation of the wireless list, the system reports the need to install non-free:
iwlwifi-7265D-9
iwlwifi-7265D-10
iwlwifi-7265D-11
iwlwifi-7265D-12
and asks for media.   [I have not been able to find those four specific files on the Internet.]  I have copied iwlwifi from Intel and from the Debian wiki on wifi and placed the tarred files on a FAT32 formated stick in the 'firmware' directory.  When I respond 'yes' to supplying the files, the screen blinks and returns - over and over again.  If I select no, it moves to the driver selection page.

The network card screen comes up, I select the Intel recommended firmware iwlsifi, but the page just recreates itself and waits for a new selection.  If I select either 'none' or 'not listed', the installation fails saying there is no network card.

I have obtained from Intel their suggestion as of Aug 2015:
iwlwifi-7265-ucode-25.30.14.0.tgz
I placed this on a USB stick in a subdirectory labeled 'firmware'.  This was built from Windows 7 on a FAT32 file system.

There is also a Dynadock docking station that connects to the Toshiba via a USB3 cable.  Besides video, USB,and audio, this has an Ethernet port.  I have tried this connected to the laptop but it also requires a driver.  I have placed that driver on the firmware directory of the USB also.

Are the four files listed above somehow inside the iwlwifi driver tgz?
Is there a way to get the docking station drive to load so I can use its Ethernet port?
I have used Rufus to build the stretch USB from Windows.  
I do have a a Linux box I built with the same USB for stretch.  I would use it but so far, I only have a command line on it and I have not figured out how to access debian.org to download the installation files nor how to put that on the stick.

I would appreciate any comments.

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#158957

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On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 04:48:33AM -0700, ray wrote:
> Installing stretch stops at detecting network devices.  This is an attempt to install stretch over the top of Windows 10 on a Toshiba Radius 15 with 2 each USB2 ports and 2 each USB3 ports, and no RJ-45.  Its wireless is based upon the Intel 7265.  

Stretch is at the moment "testing"...

> 
> I tested this laptop with the latest Debian Live on a stick and all worked fine.  Now, I am attempting an installation of stretch from a stick.
> 
> Just before the presentation of the wireless list, the system reports the need to install non-free:
> iwlwifi-7265D-9
> iwlwifi-7265D-10
> iwlwifi-7265D-11
> iwlwifi-7265D-12
> and asks for media.   [I have not been able to find those four specific files on the Internet.]  I have copied iwlwifi from Intel and from the Debian wiki on wifi and placed the tarred files on a FAT32 formated stick in the 'firmware' directory.  When I respond 'yes' to supplying the files, the screen blinks and returns - over and over again.  If I select no, it moves to the driver selection page.

the query

  https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=iwlwifi-7265D&mode=filename&suite=testing&arch=any

yields

  /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-7265D-10.ucode 	firmware-iwlwifi

Thus the package "firmware-iwlwifi" might be what you need?

> The network card screen comes up, I select the Intel recommended firmware iwlsifi, but the page just recreates itself and waits for a new selection.  If I select either 'none' or 'not listed', the installation fails saying there is no network card.

Sorry I can't say much to your other questions. But trying the Debian
package might be worth a shot.

Regards
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#158995

>   /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-7265D-10.ucode 	firmware-iwlwifi
> 
> Thus the package "firmware-iwlwifi" might be what you need?
t--
I have directly loaded the .ucode file on a second USB stick.  There was not change in the system response.  Is there another method to do this? 

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#159019

On Tuesday 13 October 2015 01:53:36 ray wrote:
> >   /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-7265D-10.ucode 	firmware-iwlwifi
> >
> > Thus the package "firmware-iwlwifi" might be what you need?
>
> t--
> I have directly loaded the .ucode file on a second USB stick.  There was
> not change in the system response.  Is there another method to do this?

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/

:-))

Lisi

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#159024

Hi,

i had the same issue on my laptp installing Wheezy.

Just put the .deb-file with containing .ucode (I assume it should be firmware-iwlwifi 0.44) to root on a second usb drive.

Then plug that usb drive to your machine after being asked to load firmware during the installation process.

Hope this helps.

MC

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#158958

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On Mon, 2015-10-12 at 04:48 -0700, ray wrote:
> Installing stretch stops at detecting network devices.  This is an
> attempt to install stretch over the top of Windows 10 on a Toshiba
> Radius 15 with 2 each USB2 ports and 2 each USB3 ports, and no RJ-45.
>   Its wireless is based upon the Intel 7265.  

Hi,

It might be easier to simply use installation media with the firmware
included:

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/

-- 
Cheers,
Sven Arvidsson
http://www.whiz.se
PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5

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#158991

On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 7:20:04 AM UTC-5, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-10-12 at 04:48 -0700, ray wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> It might be easier to simply use installation media with the firmware
> included:
> 
> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/
> 
Sven,

Thank you.  I downloaded the file, built the iso and ran it.  I get the same results as above.  

I am wondering if I may be operating the GUI incorrectly.  The laptop has a very high resolution.  I have to magnify the scrren to read it.  I do not see the typical two bottons in the bottom right corner.  I may not be operating this correctly - or there are no buttons there at this stage.

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#159040

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:13:21 -0700 (PDT), ray <ray@aarden.us> wrote:

> On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 7:20:04 AM UTC-5, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> > On Mon, 2015-10-12 at 04:48 -0700, ray wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > It might be easier to simply use installation media with the firmware
> > included:
> > 
> > http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/
> > 
> Sven,
> 
> Thank you.  I downloaded the file, built the iso and ran it.  I get the same
> results as above.  

'built the iso'- what do you mean by this? I presume you meant 'wrote the iso'?

> I am wondering if I may be operating the GUI incorrectly.  The laptop has a
> very high resolution.  I have to magnify the scrren to read it.  I do not see
> the typical two bottons in the bottom right corner.  I may not be operating
> this correctly - or there are no buttons there at this stage.

I'm not sure what you're referring to as 'the GUI'- if you're using the
netinstall CD with non-free firmware as recommended by Sven, you should have a
text-based ncurses-based interface, as opposed to the graphical installer.

Your second suggestion I think is probably what actually happened. During the
'hardware detection' phase of the installation process (where as you noted,
there are indeed no buttons), it can sometimes hang for a bit, usually for a few
seconds. It can take up to a few minutes on some machines, though. Be patient.

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#159070

moxalt wrote:
> 'built the iso'- what do you mean by this? I presume you meant 'wrote the iso'?
Yes, you are correct, I wrote the iso to a USB stick.

> I'm not sure what you're referring to as 'the GUI'- if you're using the
> netinstall CD with non-free firmware as recommended by Sven, you should have a
> text-based ncurses-based interface, as opposed to the graphical installer.
The above reference was for the 'free' version.  I have not been able to get the non-free to boot.  I have wiped the Win OS and now it just says no bootable device.  So I will write to another stick and see it that works.

> 
> Your second suggestion I think is probably what actually happened. During the
> 'hardware detection' phase of the installation process (where as you noted,
> there are indeed no buttons), it can sometimes hang for a bit, usually for a few
> seconds. It can take up to a few minutes on some machines, though. Be patient.

I will apply another dose of patience.  Thank you.

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#159174

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 12:21:16 -0700 (PDT), ray <ray@aarden.us> wrote:

> The above reference was for the 'free' version.  I have not been able to get
> the non-free to boot.  I have wiped the Win OS and now it just says no
> bootable device.  So I will write to another stick and see it that works.

This seems very strange- if you are able to get the free version to boot you
should be able to get the non-free ISO to boot as well. They are identical,
save the inclusion of non-free firmware.

The 'no bootable device' message- does this occur when you select the hard
drive as the boot device, or the USB? The hard drive is understandable (since
there is no longer a boot loader or operating system on it) but this really
should not happen with the USB. Can you describe your BIOS settings to us?
UEFI, Secure Boot, CSM, that sort of thing.

I would also recommend you prepare the boot device with Rufus. It is by far the
best USB ISO writer for Windows. Pity you don't have access to a UNIX box with
dd...

> > Your second suggestion I think is probably what actually happened. During
> > the 'hardware detection' phase of the installation process (where as you
> > noted, there are indeed no buttons), it can sometimes hang for a bit,
> > usually for a few seconds. It can take up to a few minutes on some
> > machines, though. Be patient.
> 
> I will apply another dose of patience.  Thank you.

Good luck.

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#159193

> This seems very strange- if you are able to get the free version to boot you
> should be able to get the non-free ISO to boot as well. They are identical,
> save the inclusion of non-free firmware.
 Yes.
> 
> The 'no bootable device' message- does this occur when you select the hard
> drive as the boot device, or the USB? The hard drive is understandable (since
> there is no longer a boot loader or operating system on it) but this really
> should not happen with the USB. Can you describe your BIOS settings to us?
> UEFI, Secure Boot, CSM, that sort of thing.

The 'no bootable device' came with an attempted boot from the hard disk (actually an SSD).  I have disabled secure boot.  I do not have the laptop with me so I will check that when I get back to it.

 
> I would also recommend you prepare the boot device with Rufus. It is by far the
> best USB ISO writer for Windows. Pity you don't have access to a UNIX box with
> dd...

I am using Rufus.  I do have a stretch installation on a desktop. But I have not attempted to build an installation disk from there.  But I am very will to try that.  Some details on links would be great.

> > > Your second suggestion I think is probably what actually happened. During
> > > the 'hardware detection' phase of the installation process (where as you
> > > noted, there are indeed no buttons), it can sometimes hang for a bit,
> > > usually for a few seconds. It can take up to a few minutes on some
> > > machines, though. Be patient.
> > 
> > I will apply another dose of patience.  Thank you.
> 
> Good luck.

When the page presents a yes/no selection for providing media with the drivers, I select either yes or no, the screen blanks for a moment and then returns - the same screen.  So it seems to have completed some process but has without seeing the 'next' button, I can not progress.  

I can not see these, I believe, due to the high display resolution handling.  When the installation method selection screen pops up, everything is 'normally' sized.  As soon as I select either GUI or text, everything becomes very small and spread across the screen.  Is there a way I can control this?

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#159274

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 04:51:49 -0700 (PDT), ray <ray@aarden.us> wrote:

> > This seems very strange- if you are able to get the free version to boot you
> > should be able to get the non-free ISO to boot as well. They are identical,
> > save the inclusion of non-free firmware.
>  Yes.
> > 
> > The 'no bootable device' message- does this occur when you select the hard
> > drive as the boot device, or the USB? The hard drive is understandable
> > (since there is no longer a boot loader or operating system on it) but this
> > really should not happen with the USB. Can you describe your BIOS settings
> > to us? UEFI, Secure Boot, CSM, that sort of thing.
> 
> The 'no bootable device' came with an attempted boot from the hard disk
> (actually an SSD).  I have disabled secure boot.  I do not have the laptop
> with me so I will check that when I get back to it.
> 
>  
> > I would also recommend you prepare the boot device with Rufus. It is by far
> > the best USB ISO writer for Windows. Pity you don't have access to a UNIX
> > box with dd...
> 
> I am using Rufus.  I do have a stretch installation on a desktop. But I have
> not attempted to build an installation disk from there.  But I am very will
> to try that.  Some details on links would be great.

Writing hybrid ISO images to USB under UNIX is easier than you think. I don't
even need to link you anything- I can describe the process right here. Simply
download the Debian ISO image, plug in a USB, make sure it is unmounted, and
then run the following command:

# dd if=<iso_image_file> of=/dev/<device> bs=4M;sync

Replace <iso_image_file> with the file you wish to write, <device> with the
device you wish to write to (it must be the master interface, not a partition),
and hit enter. In a few seconds the image should be written, no problem. Remove
the USB and boot as desired.

Here's an example from my own system:

# dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M;sync

That writes the file debian.iso to my USB drive at /dev/sdb. BEWARE! Your
system may differ. Use lsblk to determine the name of your USB drive's device-
although usually /dev/sdb, if you have more than one SATA hard drive this may
vary. If you write to the incorrect device, you will end up overwriting things.

Once you get the hang of dd, I assure you that you will find it easier than any
of the graphical Windows USB writing shenanigans. Good luck. dd never fails.

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#159284

That sounds great, I will try that right now.

Can files be added to the USB?

I am guessing that since the USB is not mounted, DD does not require any type of prep.  

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#159285

On Friday 16 October 2015 22:34:22 ray wrote:
> I am guessing that since the USB is not mounted, DD does not require any
> type of prep.  

It would destroy any prep you had done. ;-)

Now the netinstall with firmware might work!!

Lisi

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#159296

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 14:34:22 -0700 (PDT), ray <ray@aarden.us> wrote:

> That sounds great, I will try that right now.
> 
> Can files be added to the USB?
> 
> I am guessing that since the USB is not mounted, DD does not require any type
> of prep.

You won't need to add any files to the image (though you could after writing
by mounting the disk and copying the files) if you use the non-free firmware
image here:
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-8.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso
or here if you're computer is 32-bit:
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/i386/iso-cd/firmware-8.2.0-i386-netinst.iso

Use one of those. Good luck.

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#159298

This is very close.  Debian is installed via Live.  The network is not functioning.

History:

With the non-free iso - 
  Booting in CSM:
  Isolinux.bin missing or corrupt.
  No  bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key

  Booting in UEFI:
  No bootable device -- Please restart system

With the Live CD -
Booting in UEFI:
No bootable device -- Please restart system

Booting in CSM:
Booted OK.  Once it times out, can't log back on.  No root password.

Bootin in CSM (again):
Booted OK.  Selected 'Graphical install'
This went smooth.  When notified that wifi firmware was required, I loaded the USB with the iwlwifi.deb file.  THis progressed fine, it detected the network, used the password, downloaded additional files.  All the time, the display had font sizes that were legable and all the screen controls were visiable.  

After rebooting, font and icons were very small. Attempting to launch Iceweasel failed with "Problem Loading Page".  

So first, I would like to make the icons and font larger.
Then I would like to get the wifi back up and running.

Any suggestions?

And thanks for all the help!

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#159303

Using lspci -v
produces a report of the Intel 7265 which states, and
Kernel driver in use: iwlwifi.  

ip a
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet6 ::1/128 scope host
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: wlan0: <NO-CARRIER, BROADCACT,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc MQ state DOWN group default 
    link/sit 0.0.0.0 brd 0.0.0.0

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#159319

OK, I have network connnectivitiy.

While reveiwing desktop functions and properties, I found the network app.  All the availabe networks were listed.  I selected the one I want to use, input the password and it connected.  So I will hunt down how to provide this as an automatic connection.

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#159324

On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 07:25:18 -0700 (PDT), ray <ray@aarden.us> wrote:

> OK, I have network connnectivitiy.
> 
> While reveiwing desktop functions and properties, I found the network app.
> All the availabe networks were listed.  I selected the one I want to use,
> input the password and it connected.  So I will hunt down how to provide this
> as an automatic connection.

Congratulations! A winner is you!

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#159234

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 08:28:14AM +0300, moxalt wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 12:21:16 -0700 (PDT), ray <ray@aarden.us> wrote:
> 
> > The above reference was for the 'free' version.  I have not been able to get
> > the non-free to boot.  I have wiped the Win OS and now it just says no
> > bootable device.  So I will write to another stick and see it that works.
> 
> This seems very strange- if you are able to get the free version to boot you
> should be able to get the non-free ISO to boot as well. They are identical,
> save the inclusion of non-free firmware.
> 
> The 'no bootable device' message- does this occur when you select the hard
> drive as the boot device, or the USB? The hard drive is understandable (since
> there is no longer a boot loader or operating system on it) but this really
> should not happen with the USB. Can you describe your BIOS settings to us?
> UEFI, Secure Boot, CSM, that sort of thing.
> 
> I would also recommend you prepare the boot device with Rufus. It is by far the
> best USB ISO writer for Windows. Pity you don't have access to a UNIX box with
> dd...

I've successfully used Win32DiskImager. I even provide a link:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager

-- 
"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
oppressing." --- Malcolm X

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