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Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi

Started byray <ray@aarden.us>
First post2015-10-12 14:10 +0200
Last post2015-10-14 01:40 +0200
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  Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi ray <ray@aarden.us> - 2015-10-12 14:10 +0200
    Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-10-12 14:20 +0200
      Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi ray <ray@aarden.us> - 2015-10-13 03:20 +0200
        Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 10:50 +0200
        Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi Manfred Constapel <whoopsie@gmx.de> - 2015-10-13 11:10 +0200
    Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> - 2015-10-12 14:20 +0200
      Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi ray <ray@aarden.us> - 2015-10-13 01:40 +0200
        Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-10-13 16:20 +0200
          Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi ray <ray@aarden.us> - 2015-10-13 21:50 +0200
            Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-10-15 07:30 +0200
              Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi ray <ray@aarden.us> - 2015-10-15 14:20 +0200
                Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-10-16 20:20 +0200
                  Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi ray <ray@aarden.us> - 2015-10-17 00:00 +0200
                    Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 00:20 +0200
                    Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-10-17 04:20 +0200
                      Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi ray <ray@aarden.us> - 2015-10-17 06:00 +0200
                        Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi ray <ray@aarden.us> - 2015-10-17 09:30 +0200
                          Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi ray <ray@aarden.us> - 2015-10-17 16:50 +0200
                            Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi moxalt <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2015-10-17 18:10 +0200
              Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-10-16 04:30 +0200
    Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-10-12 16:20 +0200
      Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi ray <ray@aarden.us> - 2015-10-13 03:20 +0200
        Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-10-13 04:00 +0200
          Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi ray <ray@aarden.us> - 2015-10-13 16:40 +0200
        Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 10:50 +0200
          Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi ray <ray@aarden.us> - 2015-10-13 16:30 +0200
            Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 17:40 +0200
              Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-13 21:00 +0200
                Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 23:40 +0200
                  Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi ray <ray@aarden.us> - 2015-10-14 01:40 +0200

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#158962

FromDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date2015-10-12 16:20 +0200
Message-ID<qiM7g-1nR-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#158956
Quoting ray (ray@aarden.us):
> Installing stretch stops at detecting network devices.  This is an attempt to install stretch over the top of Windows 10 on a Toshiba Radius 15 with 2 each USB2 ports and 2 each USB3 ports, and no RJ-45.  Its wireless is based upon the Intel 7265.  
> 
> I tested this laptop with the latest Debian Live on a stick and all worked fine.  Now, I am attempting an installation of stretch from a stick.
> 
> Just before the presentation of the wireless list, the system reports the need to install non-free:
> iwlwifi-7265D-9
> iwlwifi-7265D-10
> iwlwifi-7265D-11
> iwlwifi-7265D-12
> and asks for media.   [I have not been able to find those four specific files on the Internet.]  I have copied iwlwifi from Intel and from the Debian wiki on wifi and placed the tarred files on a FAT32 formated stick in the 'firmware' directory.  When I respond 'yes' to supplying the files, the screen blinks and returns - over and over again.  If I select no, it moves to the driver selection page.
> 
> The network card screen comes up, I select the Intel recommended firmware iwlsifi, but the page just recreates itself and waits for a new selection.  If I select either 'none' or 'not listed', the installation fails saying there is no network card.
> 
> I have obtained from Intel their suggestion as of Aug 2015:
> iwlwifi-7265-ucode-25.30.14.0.tgz
> I placed this on a USB stick in a subdirectory labeled 'firmware'.  This was built from Windows 7 on a FAT32 file system.
> 
> There is also a Dynadock docking station that connects to the Toshiba via a USB3 cable.  Besides video, USB,and audio, this has an Ethernet port.  I have tried this connected to the laptop but it also requires a driver.  I have placed that driver on the firmware directory of the USB also.
> 
> Are the four files listed above somehow inside the iwlwifi driver tgz?

The contents are:

LICENSE.iwlwifi-7265-ucode
README.iwlwifi-7265-ucode
iwlwifi-7265-14.ucode
iwlwifi-7265D-14.ucode

You need to unpack with tar, and put these files themselves in your
firmware directory on the stick (rather than the whole archive).

Cheers,
David.

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#158994

Fromray <ray@aarden.us>
Date2015-10-13 03:20 +0200
Message-ID<qiWpX-7YV-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#158962
> The contents are:
> 
> LICENSE.iwlwifi-7265-ucode
> README.iwlwifi-7265-ucode
> iwlwifi-7265-14.ucode
> iwlwifi-7265D-14.ucode
> 
> You need to unpack with tar, and put these files themselves in your
> firmware directory on the stick (rather than the whole archive).

I placed these unpacked files in the 'firmware' directory of another stick.  I put both sticks in the laptop and started the installation.  There was no change in the result.  

While the above method is what is suggested on the debian wiki, is there a way to put this file in the iso I have downloaded from the Debian site?

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#158996

FromDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date2015-10-13 04:00 +0200
Message-ID<qiX2F-fV-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#158994
Quoting ray (ray@aarden.us):
> > The contents are:
> > 
> > LICENSE.iwlwifi-7265-ucode
> > README.iwlwifi-7265-ucode
> > iwlwifi-7265-14.ucode
> > iwlwifi-7265D-14.ucode
> > 
> > You need to unpack with tar, and put these files themselves in your
> > firmware directory on the stick (rather than the whole archive).
> 
> I placed these unpacked files in the 'firmware' directory of another stick.  I put both sticks in the laptop and started the installation.  There was no change in the result.  

I don't know if this is still an issue: Leave out the firmware stick
until asked for. Switch to VC4 before plugging it in and note the
device name it uses, probably /dev/sdc or /dev/sdc1.
Then switch back to tell it to look for the formware. As it does so,
check on VC4 to make sure it looks at your stick.

Reasoning: there was an issue reported that it searched IIRC /dev/sdc
but not /dev/sdc1 (appropriate for a partitioned stick).

Cheers,
David.

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#159045

Fromray <ray@aarden.us>
Date2015-10-13 16:40 +0200
Message-ID<qj8Ub-Wq-47@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#158996
> Reasoning: there was an issue reported that it searched IIRC /dev/sdc
> but not /dev/sdc1 (appropriate for a partitioned stick).
> 
> Cheers,
> David.

I had tried inserting the stick (before I read your post), but did not know to check VC4.  Now when I check it, it is streaming errors continuously, each incrementing time.

I get an error about the mirror being bad.  I have tried several and it is the same error.  I think it is because I have not actually loaded iwlwifi and it is not finding any.

So I pulled the plug on that installation to follow your direction.  I get a new error window:
GNU GRUB version 2.02~beta2-26

When anything is selected for installation:

error: invalid sector size 0.
error: module 'gfxmenu' isn't loaded.

I am guessing this is due to the installation formating being incomplete.  At least Windows isn't popping up.

Not sure where to go from here.

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#159020

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-13 10:50 +0200
Message-ID<qj3rs-1kt-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#158994
On Tuesday 13 October 2015 01:50:53 ray wrote:
> > The contents are:
> >
> > LICENSE.iwlwifi-7265-ucode
> > README.iwlwifi-7265-ucode
> > iwlwifi-7265-14.ucode
> > iwlwifi-7265D-14.ucode
> >
> > You need to unpack with tar, and put these files themselves in your
> > firmware directory on the stick (rather than the whole archive).
>
> I placed these unpacked files in the 'firmware' directory of another stick.
>  I put both sticks in the laptop and started the installation.  There was
> no change in the result.
>
> While the above method is what is suggested on the debian wiki, is there a
> way to put this file in the iso I have downloaded from the Debian site?

Why not just use

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/

as Sven suggested?

Lisi

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#159041

Fromray <ray@aarden.us>
Date2015-10-13 16:30 +0200
Message-ID<qj8Ku-KS-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#159020
> Why not just use
> 
> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/
> 
> as Sven suggested?
> 
> Lisi

I reported on that attempt yesterday - I obtained the same results as the free version.

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#159052

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-13 17:40 +0200
Message-ID<qj9Qe-2jW-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#159041
On Tuesday 13 October 2015 15:07:29 ray wrote:
> > Why not just use
> >
> > http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmwa
> >re/
> >
> > as Sven suggested?
> >
> > Lisi
>
> I reported on that attempt yesterday - I obtained the same results as the
> free version.

Sorry, I can understand neither this nor the previous one to which you refer, 
which I have only just seen.  (It must have been held up somewhere.) 

This CD normally Just Works.

Can you describe what you do, including any checks you do and how you burn 
your CD?

Another way I have used in the past to get past a troublesome WiFi card or 
too-new Ethernet card, is to install an old Ethernet card temporarily to do 
the installation, sort the drivers out once it is installed, then remove the 
old card.

Lisi

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#159065

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2015-10-13 21:00 +0200
Message-ID<qjcXM-6NR-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#159052
On Tue 13 Oct 2015 at 16:30:23 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:

> Another way I have used in the past to get past a troublesome WiFi card or 
> too-new Ethernet card, is to install an old Ethernet card temporarily to do 
> the installation, sort the drivers out once it is installed, then remove the 
> old card.

Sound advice. But take notice of the evolving environment which Debian
has to cope with. For example, some netbooks and tablets have only one
USB port and that is occupied by the installer device. Furthermore, they
cannot generlly be prised apart to accomodate different hardware.

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#159080

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-13 23:40 +0200
Message-ID<qjfsC-28J-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#159065
On Tuesday 13 October 2015 19:49:51 Brian wrote:
> On Tue 13 Oct 2015 at 16:30:23 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > Another way I have used in the past to get past a troublesome WiFi card
> > or too-new Ethernet card, is to install an old Ethernet card temporarily
> > to do the installation, sort the drivers out once it is installed, then
> > remove the old card.
>
> Sound advice. But take notice of the evolving environment which Debian
> has to cope with. For example, some netbooks and tablets have only one
> USB port and that is occupied by the installer device. Furthermore, they
> cannot generlly be prised apart to accomodate different hardware.

Which is why I have used it in the past. ;-)

But I still can't understand what your problem with the non-free iso is.  
First you appeared to say it was the same as the other (?) now you seem to 
say that you haven't been able to try it.  (Why?)  I'm confused.

Lisi

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#159098

Fromray <ray@aarden.us>
Date2015-10-14 01:40 +0200
Message-ID<qjhkK-4V5-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#159080
> But I still can't understand what your problem with the non-free iso is.  
> First you appeared to say it was the same as the other (?) now you seem to 
> say that you haven't been able to try it.  (Why?)  I'm confused.
> 
Lisi

I have used the non-free firmware on a separate USB stick and the results are the same as without it.  I have not yet tried this in text mode so I can check the VC4 output.  I have not been able to get the non-free iso to boot at all.  I am going to repeat the process and to see if the failure is repeatable.  

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