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make system boot straight to browser connection

Started bytom arnall <kloro2006@gmail.com>
First post2015-10-08 04:20 +0200
Last post2015-10-17 09:30 +0200
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  make system boot straight to browser connection tom arnall <kloro2006@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 04:20 +0200
    Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 10:50 +0200
    Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2015-10-08 11:30 +0200
    Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Charlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com> - 2015-10-08 14:50 +0200
      Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2015-10-09 18:40 +0200
        Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-09 19:40 +0200
        Re: make system boot straight to browser connection James Richardson <james@jamestechnotes.com> - 2015-10-09 20:00 +0200
          Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-09 20:50 +0200
            Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2015-10-09 21:10 +0200
              Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-09 21:20 +0200
            Re: make system boot straight to browser connection James Richardson <james@jamestechnotes.com> - 2015-10-09 22:00 +0200
              Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-09 23:10 +0200
                Re: make system boot straight to browser connection James Richardson <james@jamestechnotes.com> - 2015-10-09 23:20 +0200
                  Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 23:50 +0200
                  Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-10 00:10 +0200
                    Re: make system boot straight to browser connection James Richardson <james@jamestechnotes.com> - 2015-10-12 16:00 +0200
                      Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-13 14:00 +0200
        Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2015-10-15 10:40 +0200
          spelling error in [Re: make system boot straight to browser connection] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2015-10-15 11:00 +0200
          Re: make system boot straight to browser connection ??? <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-15 11:20 +0200
            Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 11:40 +0200
          Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 02:50 +0200
            Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Martin Smith <lists@rakupottery.org.uk> - 2015-10-16 09:50 +0200
            Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 10:30 +0200
              Re: make system boot straight to browser connection David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-10-16 16:40 +0200
                Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2015-10-16 22:30 +0200
                  Re: make system boot straight to browser connection David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-10-17 02:50 +0200
                    Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 15:20 +0200
                    Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2015-10-18 15:20 +0200
                      Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-18 20:40 +0200
                        Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2015-10-18 23:10 +0200
                          Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-19 00:20 +0200
                      Re: make system boot straight to browser connection David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-10-19 00:30 +0200
                        Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 00:40 +0200
                        Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-10-19 06:00 +0200
                          Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-19 09:30 +0200
                            Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-10-20 10:40 +0200
                              Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2015-10-21 15:10 +0200
                                Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2015-10-21 15:20 +0200
                                Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-22 14:40 +0200
            Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-16 11:00 +0200
              Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 11:10 +0200
            Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2015-10-16 22:20 +0200
              Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 23:10 +0200
            Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <renaud@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> - 2015-10-16 23:00 +0200
              Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-10-16 23:10 +0200
      Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2015-10-09 20:30 +0200
    Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-10-09 17:30 +0200
    Re: make system boot straight to browser connection tom arnall <kloro2006@gmail.com> - 2015-10-10 06:00 +0200
    Re: make system boot straight to browser connection tom arnall <kloro2006@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 01:40 +0200
      Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Glenn English <ghe@slsware.net> - 2015-10-17 02:10 +0200
      Re: make system boot straight to browser connection Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 09:30 +0200

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#158673 — make system boot straight to browser connection

Fromtom arnall <kloro2006@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-08 04:20 +0200
Subjectmake system boot straight to browser connection
Message-ID<qh8Yh-6CS-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
I want to setup a system so that when the power button is pushed on
the PC, the system connects to the internet and starts a browser
without a login or any other intervention by the user.

There are no security issues.

Is this doable?

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#158677

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-08 10:50 +0200
Message-ID<qhf3K-6MG-37@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#158673
On Thursday 08 October 2015 03:13:01 tom arnall wrote:
> I want to setup a system so that when the power button is pushed on
> the PC, the system connects to the internet and starts a browser
> without a login or any other intervention by the user.
>
> There are no security issues.
>
> Is this doable?

What DE, if any, are you using?  This could easily be done in TDE, so probably 
in at least some others.

Lisi

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#158679

FromDarac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk>
Date2015-10-08 11:30 +0200
Message-ID<qhfGp-7Lv-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#158673

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On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 07:13:01PM -0700, tom arnall wrote:
> I want to setup a system so that when the power button is pushed on
> the PC, the system connects to the internet and starts a browser
> without a login or any other intervention by the user.
> 
> There are no security issues.
> 
> Is this doable?
> 

Certainly. The term for this is "Kiosk Mode". There are many tutorials 
on the web if you include that in your search terms :)


-- 
For more information, please reread.

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#158684

FromCharlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com>
Date2015-10-08 14:50 +0200
Message-ID<qhiNY-3NW-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#158673
On Wed, 7 Oct 2015 19:13:01 -0700
tom arnall <kloro2006@gmail.com> wrote:

>I want to setup a system so that when the power button is pushed on
>the PC, the system connects to the internet and starts a browser
>without a login or any other intervention by the user.
>
>There are no security issues.
>
>Is this doable?
>

Definitely doable. I do it every day. Set up my computer for autologin,
open browser to page wanted. Save session in Xfce. Every time the
computer is restarted, it comes up, logs in, starts firefox.


-- 
Charlie Kravetz
Linux Registered User Number 425914
[http://linuxcounter.net/user/425914.html]
Never let anyone steal your DREAM.   [http://keepingdreams.com]

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#158716

FromRichard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Date2015-10-09 18:40 +0200
Message-ID<qhIS7-7BS-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#158684
[resend, had not appeared in archives after 2 hours]

Charlie Kravetz wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Oct 2015 19:13:01 -0700
> tom arnall <kloro2006@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I want to setup a system so that when the power button is pushed on
>> the PC, the system connects to the internet and starts a browser
>> without a login or any other intervention by the user.
>>
>> There are no security issues.
>>
>> Is this doable?
>>
>
> Definitely doable. I do it every day. Set up my computer for autologin,
> open browser to page wanted. Save session in Xfce. Every time the
> computer is restarted, it comes up, logs in, starts firefox.
>

How to do an autologin? In a DE independent way?

http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=autologin&apropos=1
gave no relevant links.

A Google search gave only decade old or DE related links.

I currently use Mate, but exploring other desktops(avoiding Gnome 
3!!!;}.
I'd like something similar to autoexec.bat from DOS/CPM days.

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#158718

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2015-10-09 19:40 +0200
Message-ID<qhJO9-wh-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#158716
On Fri 09 Oct 2015 at 10:37:58 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

> How to do an autologin? In a DE independent way?
> 
> http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=autologin&apropos=1
> gave no relevant links.
> 
> A Google search gave only decade old or DE related links.
> 
> I currently use Mate, but exploring other desktops(avoiding Gnome 3!!!;}.
> I'd like something similar to autoexec.bat from DOS/CPM days.

apt-get install nodm

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#158719

FromJames Richardson <james@jamestechnotes.com>
Date2015-10-09 20:00 +0200
Message-ID<qhK7w-Tp-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#158716
Richard Owlett writes:

> [resend, had not appeared in archives after 2 hours]
>
> Charlie Kravetz wrote:
>> On Wed, 7 Oct 2015 19:13:01 -0700
>> tom arnall <kloro2006@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I want to setup a system so that when the power button is pushed on
>>> the PC, the system connects to the internet and starts a browser
>>> without a login or any other intervention by the user.
>>>
>>> There are no security issues.
>>>
>>> Is this doable?
>>>
>>
>> Definitely doable. I do it every day. Set up my computer for autologin,
>> open browser to page wanted. Save session in Xfce. Every time the
>> computer is restarted, it comes up, logs in, starts firefox.
>>
>
> How to do an autologin? In a DE independent way?
>
> http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=autologin&apropos=1
> gave no relevant links.
>
> A Google search gave only decade old or DE related links.
>
> I currently use Mate, but exploring other desktops(avoiding Gnome 
> 3!!!;}.
> I'd like something similar to autoexec.bat from DOS/CPM days.

I've used runit for such things successfully, most recently for starting
kodi at startup on my HTPC.
-- 
Sent with my mu4e

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#158723

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2015-10-09 20:50 +0200
Message-ID<qhKTT-231-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#158719
On Fri 09 Oct 2015 at 13:50:07 -0400, James Richardson wrote:

> 
> Richard Owlett writes:
> 
> > [resend, had not appeared in archives after 2 hours]
> >
> > How to do an autologin? In a DE independent way?
> >
> > http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=autologin&apropos=1
> > gave no relevant links.
> >
> > A Google search gave only decade old or DE related links.
> >
> > I currently use Mate, but exploring other desktops(avoiding Gnome 
> > 3!!!;}.
> > I'd like something similar to autoexec.bat from DOS/CPM days.
> 
> I've used runit for such things successfully, most recently for starting
> kodi at startup on my HTPC.

apt-cache show runit has as part of its output:

 runit service supervision can run under sysv init or replace the init
 system completely.  Complete init replacement requires some manual
 configuration described in the supplied documentation.

So the standard systemd init system needs replacing to get autologin in
a DE independent way? Technically you might be correct but are you
serious? It doesn't seem very elegant.

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#158726

FromMiles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net>
Date2015-10-09 21:10 +0200
Message-ID<qhLdf-2EM-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#158723
Brian wrote:
> On Fri 09 Oct 2015 at 13:50:07 -0400, James Richardson wrote:
>
>> Richard Owlett writes:
>>
>>> [resend, had not appeared in archives after 2 hours]
>>>
>>> How to do an autologin? In a DE independent way?
>>>
>>> http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=autologin&apropos=1
>>> gave no relevant links.
>>>
>>> A Google search gave only decade old or DE related links.
>>>
>>> I currently use Mate, but exploring other desktops(avoiding Gnome
>>> 3!!!;}.
>>> I'd like something similar to autoexec.bat from DOS/CPM days.
>> I've used runit for such things successfully, most recently for starting
>> kodi at startup on my HTPC.
> apt-cache show runit has as part of its output:
>
>   runit service supervision can run under sysv init or replace the init
>   system completely.  Complete init replacement requires some manual
>   configuration described in the supplied documentation.
>
> So the standard systemd init system needs replacing to get autologin in
> a DE independent way? Technically you might be correct but are you
> serious? It doesn't seem very elegant.

With sysvinit, all you need to do is drop a line or two into 
/etc/init.d/rc.local - to set up the environment, su to the appropriate 
user, then start a browser.  What's the big deal?

Miles Fidelman

-- 
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.   .... Yogi Berra

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#158728

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2015-10-09 21:20 +0200
Message-ID<qhLmV-2PX-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#158726
On Fri 09 Oct 2015 at 15:06:24 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:

> Brian wrote:
> >On Fri 09 Oct 2015 at 13:50:07 -0400, James Richardson wrote:
> >
> >>Richard Owlett writes:
> >>
> >>>[resend, had not appeared in archives after 2 hours]
> >>>
> >>>How to do an autologin? In a DE independent way?
> >>>
> >>>http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=autologin&apropos=1
> >>>gave no relevant links.
> >>>
> >>>A Google search gave only decade old or DE related links.
> >>>
> >>>I currently use Mate, but exploring other desktops(avoiding Gnome
> >>>3!!!;}.
> >>>I'd like something similar to autoexec.bat from DOS/CPM days.
> >>I've used runit for such things successfully, most recently for starting
> >>kodi at startup on my HTPC.
> >apt-cache show runit has as part of its output:
> >
> >  runit service supervision can run under sysv init or replace the init
> >  system completely.  Complete init replacement requires some manual
> >  configuration described in the supplied documentation.
> >
> >So the standard systemd init system needs replacing to get autologin in
> >a DE independent way? Technically you might be correct but are you
> >serious? It doesn't seem very elegant.
> 
> With sysvinit, all you need to do is drop a line or two into
> /etc/init.d/rc.local - to set up the environment, su to the appropriate
> user, then start a browser.  What's the big deal?

Replace the init system when nodm is available just to get autologin?
Madness.

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#158729

FromJames Richardson <james@jamestechnotes.com>
Date2015-10-09 22:00 +0200
Message-ID<qhLZE-3zF-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#158723
Brian writes:

> On Fri 09 Oct 2015 at 13:50:07 -0400, James Richardson wrote:
>
>> 
>> Richard Owlett writes:
>> 
>> > [resend, had not appeared in archives after 2 hours]
>> >
>> > How to do an autologin? In a DE independent way?
>> >
>> > http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=autologin&apropos=1
>> > gave no relevant links.
>> >
>> > A Google search gave only decade old or DE related links.
>> >
>> > I currently use Mate, but exploring other desktops(avoiding Gnome 
>> > 3!!!;}.
>> > I'd like something similar to autoexec.bat from DOS/CPM days.
>> 
>> I've used runit for such things successfully, most recently for starting
>> kodi at startup on my HTPC.
>
> apt-cache show runit has as part of its output:
>
>  runit service supervision can run under sysv init or replace the init
>  system completely.  Complete init replacement requires some manual
>  configuration described in the supplied documentation.
>
> So the standard systemd init system needs replacing to get autologin in
> a DE independent way? Technically you might be correct but are you
> serious? It doesn't seem very elegant.

runit provides service supervision it can run under sysv init *OR*
replace the init system.

I can describe my config in more detail if interested.
-- 
James Richardson
http://jamestechnotes.com

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#158732

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2015-10-09 23:10 +0200
Message-ID<qhN5o-5m2-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#158729
On Fri 09 Oct 2015 at 15:58:55 -0400, James Richardson wrote:

> Brian writes:
> 
> > On Fri 09 Oct 2015 at 13:50:07 -0400, James Richardson wrote:
> >
> >> 
> >> Richard Owlett writes:
> >> 
> >> > [resend, had not appeared in archives after 2 hours]
> >> >
> >> > How to do an autologin? In a DE independent way?
> >> >
> >> > http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=autologin&apropos=1
> >> > gave no relevant links.
> >> >
> >> > A Google search gave only decade old or DE related links.
> >> >
> >> > I currently use Mate, but exploring other desktops(avoiding Gnome 
> >> > 3!!!;}.
> >> > I'd like something similar to autoexec.bat from DOS/CPM days.
> >> 
> >> I've used runit for such things successfully, most recently for starting
> >> kodi at startup on my HTPC.
> >
> > apt-cache show runit has as part of its output:
> >
> >  runit service supervision can run under sysv init or replace the init
> >  system completely.  Complete init replacement requires some manual
> >  configuration described in the supplied documentation.
> >
> > So the standard systemd init system needs replacing to get autologin in
> > a DE independent way? Technically you might be correct but are you
> > serious? It doesn't seem very elegant.
> 
> runit provides service supervision it can run under sysv init *OR*
> replace the init system.

Yes. You've repeated what I quoted from 'apt-cache show' without adding
why changing one's init system to get a simple thing like autologin is
at all beneficial to most users.
 
> I can describe my config in more detail if interested.

Not necessary.

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#158733

FromJames Richardson <james@jamestechnotes.com>
Date2015-10-09 23:20 +0200
Message-ID<qhNf4-5xo-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#158732
Brian writes:

> On Fri 09 Oct 2015 at 15:58:55 -0400, James Richardson wrote:
>
>> Brian writes:
>> 
>> > On Fri 09 Oct 2015 at 13:50:07 -0400, James Richardson wrote:
>> >
>> >> 
>> >> Richard Owlett writes:
>> >> 
>> >> > [resend, had not appeared in archives after 2 hours]
>> >> >
>> >> > How to do an autologin? In a DE independent way?
>> >> >
>> >> > http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=autologin&apropos=1
>> >> > gave no relevant links.
>> >> >
>> >> > A Google search gave only decade old or DE related links.
>> >> >
>> >> > I currently use Mate, but exploring other desktops(avoiding Gnome 
>> >> > 3!!!;}.
>> >> > I'd like something similar to autoexec.bat from DOS/CPM days.
>> >> 
>> >> I've used runit for such things successfully, most recently for starting
>> >> kodi at startup on my HTPC.
>> >
>> > apt-cache show runit has as part of its output:
>> >
>> >  runit service supervision can run under sysv init or replace the init
>> >  system completely.  Complete init replacement requires some manual
>> >  configuration described in the supplied documentation.
>> >
>> > So the standard systemd init system needs replacing to get autologin in
>> > a DE independent way? Technically you might be correct but are you
>> > serious? It doesn't seem very elegant.
>> 
>> runit provides service supervision it can run under sysv init *OR*
>> replace the init system.
>
> Yes. You've repeated what I quoted from 'apt-cache show' without adding
> why changing one's init system to get a simple thing like autologin is
> at all beneficial to most users.
>
Runit does not require one change one's init system. That is why is
states it can run under sysv init ****OR**** replace the init system.

Simply installing runit does not replace the init system.
>> I can describe my config in more detail if interested.
>
> Not necessary. 

-- 
Sent with my mu4e

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#158739

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-09 23:50 +0200
Message-ID<qhNI7-655-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#158733
On Friday 09 October 2015 22:18:28 James Richardson wrote:
> Runit does not require one change one's init system. That is why is
> states it can run under sysv init ****OR**** replace the init system.

What version are you running?  Brian is assuming Jessie, I think.  You appear 
to be assuming Wheezy or earlier.

Lisi

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#158742

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2015-10-10 00:10 +0200
Message-ID<qhO1r-6GT-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#158733
On Fri 09 Oct 2015 at 17:18:28 -0400, James Richardson wrote:

> Brian writes:
> 
> > On Fri 09 Oct 2015 at 15:58:55 -0400, James Richardson wrote:
> >
> >> Brian writes:
> >> 
> >> > On Fri 09 Oct 2015 at 13:50:07 -0400, James Richardson wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> 
> >> >> Richard Owlett writes:
> >> >> 
> >> >> > [resend, had not appeared in archives after 2 hours]
> >> >> >
> >> >> > How to do an autologin? In a DE independent way?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=autologin&apropos=1
> >> >> > gave no relevant links.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > A Google search gave only decade old or DE related links.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I currently use Mate, but exploring other desktops(avoiding Gnome 
> >> >> > 3!!!;}.
> >> >> > I'd like something similar to autoexec.bat from DOS/CPM days.
> >> >> 
> >> >> I've used runit for such things successfully, most recently for starting
> >> >> kodi at startup on my HTPC.
> >> >
> >> > apt-cache show runit has as part of its output:
> >> >
> >> >  runit service supervision can run under sysv init or replace the init
> >> >  system completely.  Complete init replacement requires some manual
> >> >  configuration described in the supplied documentation.
> >> >
> >> > So the standard systemd init system needs replacing to get autologin in
> >> > a DE independent way? Technically you might be correct but are you
> >> > serious? It doesn't seem very elegant.
> >> 
> >> runit provides service supervision it can run under sysv init *OR*
> >> replace the init system.
> >
> > Yes. You've repeated what I quoted from 'apt-cache show' without adding
> > why changing one's init system to get a simple thing like autologin is
> > at all beneficial to most users.
> >
> Runit does not require one change one's init system. That is why is
> states it can run under sysv init ****OR**** replace the init system.
> 
> Simply installing runit does not replace the init system.

Correct. So how does simply installing it allow an autologin to X?

As a matter of interest. From runit(8):

  DESCRIPTION
         runit must be run as Unix process no 1.

  root@jessie:~# runit
  - runit: fatal: must be run as process no 1.

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#158960

FromJames Richardson <james@jamestechnotes.com>
Date2015-10-12 16:00 +0200
Message-ID<qiLNU-LL-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#158742
Brian writes:

> On Fri 09 Oct 2015 at 17:18:28 -0400, James Richardson wrote:
>
>> Brian writes:
>> 
>> > On Fri 09 Oct 2015 at 15:58:55 -0400, James Richardson wrote:
>> >
>> >> Brian writes:
>> >> 
>> >> > On Fri 09 Oct 2015 at 13:50:07 -0400, James Richardson wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Richard Owlett writes:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> > [resend, had not appeared in archives after 2 hours]
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > How to do an autologin? In a DE independent way?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=autologin&apropos=1
>> >> >> > gave no relevant links.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > A Google search gave only decade old or DE related links.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I currently use Mate, but exploring other desktops(avoiding Gnome 
>> >> >> > 3!!!;}.
>> >> >> > I'd like something similar to autoexec.bat from DOS/CPM days.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> I've used runit for such things successfully, most recently for starting
>> >> >> kodi at startup on my HTPC.
>> >> >
>> >> > apt-cache show runit has as part of its output:
>> >> >
>> >> >  runit service supervision can run under sysv init or replace the init
>> >> >  system completely.  Complete init replacement requires some manual
>> >> >  configuration described in the supplied documentation.
>> >> >
>> >> > So the standard systemd init system needs replacing to get autologin in
>> >> > a DE independent way? Technically you might be correct but are you
>> >> > serious? It doesn't seem very elegant.
>> >> 
>> >> runit provides service supervision it can run under sysv init *OR*
>> >> replace the init system.
>> >
>> > Yes. You've repeated what I quoted from 'apt-cache show' without adding
>> > why changing one's init system to get a simple thing like autologin is
>> > at all beneficial to most users.
>> >
>> Runit does not require one change one's init system. That is why is
>> states it can run under sysv init ****OR**** replace the init system.
>> 
>> Simply installing runit does not replace the init system.
>
> Correct. So how does simply installing it allow an autologin to X?
>
> As a matter of interest. From runit(8):
>
>   DESCRIPTION
>          runit must be run as Unix process no 1.
>
>   root@jessie:~# runit
>   - runit: fatal: must be run as process no 1.

Well, one has to configure it.

In /etc/inittab add a line like

SV:123456:respawn:/usr/sbin/runsvdir-start

then create a run script for firefox (.e.g /etc/sv/firefox/run)

#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/bin/xinit /usr/bin/firefox

then create a symlink fro /etc/sv/firefox to /etc/service

more info is at http://smarden.org/runit/.
-- 
James Richardson
http://jamestechnotes.com

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#159033

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2015-10-13 14:00 +0200
Message-ID<qj6pl-5Fz-43@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#158960
On Mon 12 Oct 2015 at 09:57:54 -0400, James Richardson wrote:

> Brian writes:
> 
> > On Fri 09 Oct 2015 at 17:18:28 -0400, James Richardson wrote:
> >
> >> Runit does not require one change one's init system. That is why is
> >> states it can run under sysv init ****OR**** replace the init system.
> >> 
> >> Simply installing runit does not replace the init system.
> >
> > Correct. So how does simply installing it allow an autologin to X?
> >
> > As a matter of interest. From runit(8):
> >
> >   DESCRIPTION
> >          runit must be run as Unix process no 1.
> >
> >   root@jessie:~# runit
> >   - runit: fatal: must be run as process no 1.
> 
> Well, one has to configure it.
> 
> In /etc/inittab add a line like
> 
> SV:123456:respawn:/usr/sbin/runsvdir-start
> 
> then create a run script for firefox (.e.g /etc/sv/firefox/run)
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> exec /usr/bin/xinit /usr/bin/firefox
> 
> then create a symlink fro /etc/sv/firefox to /etc/service
> 
> more info is at http://smarden.org/runit/.

Thank you for the detail. I'm sure it works under sysvinit but systemd
doesn't use /etc/inittab.

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#159186

FromRichard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Date2015-10-15 10:40 +0200
Message-ID<qjMeS-11S-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#158716
Richard Owlett wrote:
> [snip]
>
> How to do an autologin? In a DE independent way?
>
> http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=autologin&apropos=1
> gave no relevant links.
>
> A Google search gave only decade old or DE related links.
>
> I currently use Mate, but exploring other desktops(avoiding Gnome
> 3!!!;}.
> I'd like something similar to autoexec.bat from DOS/CPM days.
>
>

I received two suggestions, neither suitable:
   1. nodm was recommended by the ??? who has publicly stated 
that he ignores
      how I phrase my questions.
   2. runt was also suggested. I chased down a series of links 
but didn't see
      how to apply it to my preferences.

Prior to my post I had done a web search for "autologin". I did 
another with [I assume] slightly different criteria. I suspect 
"DE independence" may not be achievable.

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#159188 — spelling error in [Re: make system boot straight to browser connection]

FromRichard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Date2015-10-15 11:00 +0200
Subjectspelling error in [Re: make system boot straight to browser connection]
Message-ID<qjMyd-1oN-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#159186
Richard Owlett wrote:
> Richard Owlett wrote:
>> [snip]
>>
>> How to do an autologin? In a DE independent way?
>>
>> http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=autologin&apropos=1
>>
>> gave no relevant links.
>>
>> A Google search gave only decade old or DE related links.
>>
>> I currently use Mate, but exploring other desktops(avoiding Gnome
>> 3!!!;}.
>> I'd like something similar to autoexec.bat from DOS/CPM days.
>>
>>
>
> I received two suggestions, neither suitable:
>    1. nodm was recommended by the ??? who has publicly stated
> that he ignores
>       how I phrase my questions.
>    2. runt was also suggested. I chased down a series of links
         ^^^^ should be runit   ;<

>       but didn't see how to apply it to my preferences.
>
> Prior to my post I had done a web search for "autologin". I did
> another with [I assume] slightly different criteria. I suspect
> "DE independence" may not be achievable.
>
>

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#159190

From??? <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2015-10-15 11:20 +0200
Message-ID<qjMRA-21D-35@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#159186
On Thu 15 Oct 2015 at 03:29:38 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

> Richard Owlett wrote:
> >[snip]
> >
> >How to do an autologin? In a DE independent way?
> >
> >http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=autologin&apropos=1
> >gave no relevant links.
> >
> >A Google search gave only decade old or DE related links.
> >
> >I currently use Mate, but exploring other desktops(avoiding Gnome
> >3!!!;}.
> >I'd like something similar to autoexec.bat from DOS/CPM days.
> 
> I received two suggestions, neither suitable:
>   1. nodm was recommended by the ??? who has publicly stated that he ignores
>      how I phrase my questions.

Is this an in depth technical analysis of the unsuitability of nodm or a
rewriting of history? :)

From

 http://www.enricozini.org/sw/nodm/

  nodm is an automatic display manager which automatically starts an
  X session at system boot. It is meant for devices like smartphones,
  but can be used on a regular computer as well, if the security
  implications are acceptable.

>   2. runt was also suggested. I chased down a series of links but didn't see
>      how to apply it to my preferences.
> 
> Prior to my post I had done a web search for "autologin". I did another with
> [I assume] slightly different criteria. I suspect "DE independence" may not
> be achievable.

Your suspicions are unfounded.

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