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  googleearth-package (jessie) rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-09-30 05:20 +0200
    Re: googleearth-package (jessie) rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-09-30 06:40 +0200
      Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Heracles <heracles@iprimus.com.au> - 2015-09-30 07:40 +0200
        Re: googleearth-package (jessie) rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-09-30 08:00 +0200
          Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Heracles <heracles@iprimus.com.au> - 2015-09-30 08:10 +0200
            Re: googleearth-package (jessie) rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-09-30 08:30 +0200
            Re: googleearth-package (jessie) rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-03 07:30 +0200
              Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Petter Adsen <petter@synth.no> - 2015-10-03 10:00 +0200
                Re: googleearth-package (jessie) rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-03 21:00 +0200
              Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 18:10 +0200
                Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2015-10-03 19:20 +0200
                  Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 21:00 +0200
                    Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 21:10 +0200
                      Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> - 2015-10-03 21:30 +0200
                        Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Wayne Topa <linuxtwo@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 22:50 +0200
                        Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 23:20 +0200
                      Re: googleearth-package (jessie) rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-03 21:30 +0200
                        Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 23:00 +0200
                          Re: googleearth-package (jessie) The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2015-10-03 23:20 +0200
                          Re: googleearth-package (jessie) rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-03 23:40 +0200
                            Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 23:40 +0200
                              Re: googleearth-package (jessie) rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-03 23:50 +0200
                                Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 00:30 +0200
                            Re: googleearth-package (jessie) John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-10-03 23:50 +0200
                              Re: googleearth-package (jessie) rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-04 00:10 +0200
                                Re: googleearth-package (jessie) John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-10-04 00:40 +0200
                                Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 00:40 +0200
                        Re: googleearth-package -- errata rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-04 00:50 +0200
                          Re: googleearth-package -- errata Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 13:40 +0200
              Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Heracles <heracles@iprimus.com.au> - 2015-10-04 10:10 +0200
                Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Heracles <heracles@iprimus.com.au> - 2015-10-04 10:20 +0200
      Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-09-30 15:30 +0200
        Re: googleearth-package (jessie) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-09-30 15:50 +0200
          Re: googleearth-package (jessie) rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-09-30 16:10 +0200
        Re: googleearth-package (jessie) rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-09-30 16:00 +0200
          Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2015-09-30 18:50 +0200
            Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 19:00 +0200
              Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Tony van der Hoff <tony@vanderhoff.org> - 2015-09-30 19:10 +0200
                Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 22:00 +0200
                  Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Glenn English <ghe@slsware.net> - 2015-09-30 22:10 +0200
                    Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 23:00 +0200

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#158558

On Saturday 03 October 2015 22:30:28 rlharris@oplink.net wrote:
> On Sat, October 3, 2015 3:56 pm, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > I also thought that the package you were trying to install was
> > called "googleearth".  It says so in the subject line.  Ah!  A search
> > suggests that you did actually mean googleearth not gnome-earth.
>
> As best as I can put together the pieces, some time ago Google created a
> Debian package of Google Earth (gnome-earth-stable_current_i386.deb); the
> package is available for download from http://www.google.com/earth/.  But
> until recently, Debian users have experienced difficulty installing the
> package and some have found the program problematic, once installed.

The Google site, at the place referenced by your URL, has just offered to let 
me download (copied and pasted to avoid typos)

google-earth-stable_current_amd64.deb

No mention of Gnome.

Lisi
>
> So, someone in the realm of Debian put together a package called
> "googleearth-package", the function of which is to (1) download from the
> Google web site the latest stable revision of Google Earth, (2) from it
> build a new Debian package, and (3) install the new Debian package.  That
> appears to have been a good solution.
>
> However, pretty much coincident with the advent of Jessie, the
> "gnome-earth-stable_current_i386.deb" package provided by Google appears
> to install and run properly, at least when installed with the command
> "gdebi gnome-earth-stable_current_i386.deb".
>
> So, at the present time, it appears that the need for
> "googleearth-package" has passed -- at least with respect to Jessie (and
> in my case, with the combination of Xfce on an i386 system).  Direct
> installation with gdebi is simpler and faster.
>
> P.S. I am posting this to the list simply because the knowledge would have
> saved me a number of hours of search and trial and error.
>
> Russ

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#158560

On Sat, October 3, 2015 4:34 pm, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> The Google site, at the place referenced by your URL, has just offered to
> let me download (copied and pasted to avoid typos)
>
> google-earth-stable_current_amd64.deb

The Google web site detected that you are running an amd64 system, so it
automatically offered you the amd64 version of Google Earth.

I happended to visit the site while running an i386 system, so the site
offered me the i386 version.

But with a bit of searching through the site, you can download the amd64
version or the i386 version -- or both, if you wish.  And I think that you
can do so even if you are running W$ at the time.

Russ

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#158565

On Saturday 03 October 2015 22:44:01 rlharris@oplink.net wrote:
> On Sat, October 3, 2015 4:34 pm, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > The Google site, at the place referenced by your URL, has just offered to
> > let me download (copied and pasted to avoid typos)
> >
> > google-earth-stable_current_amd64.deb
>
> The Google web site detected that you are running an amd64 system, so it
> automatically offered you the amd64 version of Google Earth.
>
> I happended to visit the site while running an i386 system, so the site
> offered me the i386 version.
>
> But with a bit of searching through the site, you can download the amd64
> version or the i386 version -- or both, if you wish.  And I think that you
> can do so even if you are running W$ at the time.

Yes, of course.  No problem.  It was _Gnome_ that I didn't/don't see.

Lisi

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#158561

rlharris writes:
> So, at the present time, it appears that the need for
> "googleearth-package" has passed -- at least with respect to Jessie
> (and in my case, with the combination of Xfce on an i386 system).
> Direct installation with gdebi is simpler and faster.

What about those whose computers are Gnome free?
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#158562

On Sat, October 3, 2015 4:45 pm, John Hasler wrote:
> rlharris writes:
>> So, at the present time, it appears that the need for
>> "googleearth-package" has passed -- at least with respect to Jessie
>> (and in my case, with the combination of Xfce on an i386 system).
>> Direct installation with gdebi is simpler and faster.
>
> What about those whose computers are Gnome free?

All I know is that when I installed Jessie, I specified only the Xcfe
desktop, and I did not specify Gnome.  (Months ago I tried to install both
Gnome and Xfce on a system, and something went awry.)

The installer may have installed some Gnome packages, but that does not
bother me, so long as I have the Xfce desktop.

And thinking of it now, I did subsequently install gnome-disk-utility,
which I use almost daily.

If a Gnome package -- such as gdebi or gnome-disk-utility runs properly
apart from the Gnome desktop, should I be concerned?

Russ

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#158566

rlharris writes:
> All I know is that when I installed Jessie, I specified only the Xcfe
> desktop, and I did not specify Gnome.  (Months ago I tried to install both
> Gnome and Xfce on a system, and something went awry.)

> The installer may have installed some Gnome packages, but that does not
> bother me, so long as I have the Xfce desktop.

> And thinking of it now, I did subsequently install gnome-disk-utility,
> which I use almost daily.

> If a Gnome package -- such as gdebi or gnome-disk-utility runs
> properly apart from the Gnome desktop, should I be concerned?

I thought that you said that you had installed some sort of a Gnome
Google-Earth package and that this obviated the need for
googleearth-package.  My mistake.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#158567

On Saturday 03 October 2015 23:07:13 rlharris@oplink.net wrote:
> On Sat, October 3, 2015 4:45 pm, John Hasler wrote:
> > rlharris writes:
> >> So, at the present time, it appears that the need for
> >> "googleearth-package" has passed -- at least with respect to Jessie
> >> (and in my case, with the combination of Xfce on an i386 system).
> >> Direct installation with gdebi is simpler and faster.
> >
> > What about those whose computers are Gnome free?
>
> All I know is that when I installed Jessie, I specified only the Xcfe
> desktop, and I did not specify Gnome.  (Months ago I tried to install both
> Gnome and Xfce on a system, and something went awry.)
>
> The installer may have installed some Gnome packages, but that does not
> bother me, so long as I have the Xfce desktop.
>
> And thinking of it now, I did subsequently install gnome-disk-utility,
> which I use almost daily.
>
> If a Gnome package -- such as gdebi or gnome-disk-utility runs properly
> apart from the Gnome desktop, should I be concerned?

You are clearly welcome to use Gnome.   You run a Gnome compatible desktop.  
But not everyone does.  And Google doesn't mention Gnome, in spite of your 
insistance that it does.

Anyhow, John: we have established that although Russ used gdebi GNOME GUI, 
versions of gdebi exist for the rest of us.  There are gdebi-core (CLI) and 
gdebi KDE GUI.  And Gnome doesn't come into Google Earth (though Gnome may do 
a package for it, of course).

Lisi

Lisi

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#158569 — Re: googleearth-package -- errata

On Sat, October 3, 2015 2:21 pm, rlharris@oplink.net wrote:
> (2) what is not CLI about the command:
>
> ~/Downloads # gdebi gnome-earth-stable_current_i386.deb

CORRECTION OF A MISSTATEMENT ERROR:  The line should read:

   ~/Downloads # gdebi google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb

I regret causing confusion.  But this is like the question:  "How many
animals of each kind did Moses take on board the ark?"; the error should
be obvious to all.

Russ

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#158577 — Re: googleearth-package -- errata

On Saturday 03 October 2015 23:42:56 rlharris@oplink.net wrote:
> On Sat, October 3, 2015 2:21 pm, rlharris@oplink.net wrote:
> > (2) what is not CLI about the command:
> >
> > ~/Downloads # gdebi gnome-earth-stable_current_i386.deb
>
> CORRECTION OF A MISSTATEMENT ERROR:  The line should read:
>
>    ~/Downloads # gdebi google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb
>
> I regret causing confusion.  But this is like the question:  "How many
> animals of each kind did Moses take on board the ark?"; the error should
> be obvious to all.

It was, but you kept correcting me after I had noticed it, so people thought 
that you meant it after all.

Lisi

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#158572

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On 03/10/15 15:21, rlharris@oplink.net wrote:
> On Wed, September 30, 2015 1:08 am, Heracles wrote:
>> I just installed Google-Earth using "synaptic" in Debian8 and it worked
>> fine. It had to install a few other bits and pieces but as it did all the
>> work I was fine with it. Google-earth works without errors. Heracles
> Heracles,
>
> Would you be so kind as to outline the procedure for using synaptic to
> install the .deb package which I downloaded from the Google Earth web
> site?
>
> I use synaptic all the time, but always with packages which are in the
> Debian repositories.  I searched and saw that some people are installing
> using "dpkg -i"; but does that take care of dependencies?
>
> I plan to run GE on a i386 laptop, so the package which I downloaded is
> the 32-bit:
>
>     google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb
>
> Thanks.
>
> Russ
>
Hi Rus,
I followed this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...ght=local+repo 
<http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42862&highlight=local+repo>
which worked quite well but using gdebi is a simpler method.
Heracles

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#158573

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On 04/10/15 18:59, Heracles wrote:
>
>
> On 03/10/15 15:21, rlharris@oplink.net wrote:
>> On Wed, September 30, 2015 1:08 am, Heracles wrote:
>>> I just installed Google-Earth using "synaptic" in Debian8 and it worked
>>> fine. It had to install a few other bits and pieces but as it did all the
>>> work I was fine with it. Google-earth works without errors. Heracles
>> Heracles,
>>
>> Would you be so kind as to outline the procedure for using synaptic to
>> install the .deb package which I downloaded from the Google Earth web
>> site?
<snip>
> Hi Rus,
> I followed this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...ght=local+repo
> which worked quite well but using gdebi is a simpler method.
> Heracles
>
That should be: 
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42862&highlight=local+repo
Heracles

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#158463

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:31:16PM -0500, rlharris@oplink.net wrote:
> Further progress:
> 
> Launching googlearth from a terminal prompt produces the error message:
> 
> /usr/lib/googleearth-bin: error while loading shared libraries:
> libcurl.so.4 cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.
> 
> Jessie has the following libcurl3 packages:
>     libcurl3
>     libcurl3-gnutls


root@tal:~# locate libcurl
...
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.3
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4.3.0
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.3
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4.3.0
...

root@tal:~# dpkg -S /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4
libcurl3-gnutls:i386: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4

root@tal:~# less /etc/debian_version
8.2

Is there a Debian.Readme file?

dpkg -L is your friend.

-- 
"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
oppressing." --- Malcolm X

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#158464

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On Thu, Oct 01, 2015 at 02:22:01AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:31:16PM -0500, rlharris@oplink.net wrote:
> > Further progress:
> > 
> > Launching googlearth from a terminal prompt produces the error message:
> > 
> > /usr/lib/googleearth-bin: error while loading shared libraries:
> > libcurl.so.4 cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.
> > 
> > Jessie has the following libcurl3 packages:
> >     libcurl3
> >     libcurl3-gnutls
> 
> 
> root@tal:~# locate libcurl
> ...
> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.3
> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4
> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4.3.0
> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.3
> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4
> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4.3.0
> ...
> 
> root@tal:~# dpkg -S /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4
> libcurl3-gnutls:i386: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4
> 
> root@tal:~# less /etc/debian_version
> 8.2
> 
> Is there a Debian.Readme file?
> 
> dpkg -L is your friend.

Or -- if you have the 'apt-file' package installed:

  tomas@rasputin:~$ sudo apt-file update # do this from time to time
  [some output elided]
  tomas@rasputin:~$ apt-file search libcurl.so.4
  libcurl3: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4
  libcurl3: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4.2.0
  libcurl3: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4.3.0
  libcurl3: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4.4.0

Thus, libcurl3 is providing the library (this works even when the package
in question isn't installed).

To see where googleearth is looking for its libs, try

  ldd /usr/lib/googleearthbin

regards
- -- tomás
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#158467

On Wed, September 30, 2015 8:49 am, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> Or -- if you have the 'apt-file' package installed:
>
>
> tomas@rasputin:~$ sudo apt-file update # do this from time to time
> [some output elided]
> tomas@rasputin:~$ apt-file search libcurl.so.4
> libcurl3: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4
> libcurl3: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4.2.0
> libcurl3: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4.3.0
> libcurl3: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4.4.0
>
> Thus, libcurl3 is providing the library (this works even when the package
>  in question isn't installed).
>
> To see where googleearth is looking for its libs, try
>
> ldd /usr/lib/googleearthbin

My project for this evening!  Thanks for telling me about these tools.

RLH

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#158466

On Wed, September 30, 2015 8:22 am, Chris Bannister wrote:

> root@tal:~# locate libcurl
> ...
> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.3
> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4
> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4.3.0
> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.3
> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4
> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4.3.0
> ...
> root@tal:~# dpkg -S /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4
> libcurl3-gnutls:i386: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4
> ...
> root@tal:~# less /etc/debian_version
> 8.2
>...
> dpkg -L is your friend.

Thanks for the introduction to "locate" and "dpkg -L"!  All I knew about
previously was "whereis".

RLH

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#158474

On 2015-09-30, rlharris@oplink.net <rlharris@oplink.net> wrote:
> On Wed, September 30, 2015 8:22 am, Chris Bannister wrote:
>
>> root@tal:~# locate libcurl
>> ...
>> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.3
>> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4
>> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4.3.0
>> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.3
>> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4
>> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4.3.0
>> ...
>> root@tal:~# dpkg -S /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4
>> libcurl3-gnutls:i386: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4
>> ...
>> root@tal:~# less /etc/debian_version
>> 8.2
>>...
>> dpkg -L is your friend.
>
> Thanks for the introduction to "locate" and "dpkg -L"!  All I knew about
> previously was "whereis".

You don't have to be root, though, to use those tools in the manner
described above.

UUOR

> RLH
>
>


-- 

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#158475

On Wednesday 30 September 2015 17:48:36 Curt wrote:
> On 2015-09-30, rlharris@oplink.net <rlharris@oplink.net> wrote:
> > On Wed, September 30, 2015 8:22 am, Chris Bannister wrote:
> >> root@tal:~# locate libcurl
> >> ...
> >> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.3
> >> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4
> >> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4.3.0
> >> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.3
> >> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4
> >> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4.3.0
> >> ...
> >> root@tal:~# dpkg -S /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4
> >> libcurl3-gnutls:i386: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4
> >> ...
> >> root@tal:~# less /etc/debian_version
> >> 8.2
> >>...
> >> dpkg -L is your friend.
> >
> > Thanks for the introduction to "locate" and "dpkg -L"!  All I knew about
> > previously was "whereis".
>
> You don't have to be root, though, to use those tools in the manner
> described above.
>
> UUOR

http://www.acronymfinder.com/~/search/af.aspx?Acronym=UUOR&string=exact

Lisi
>
> > RLH

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#158476

On 30/09/15 17:59, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>>
>> UUOR
> 
> http://www.acronymfinder.com/~/search/af.aspx?Acronym=UUOR&string=exact
> 

0 matches -- very helpful :)

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#158484

On Wednesday 30 September 2015 18:08:04 Tony van der Hoff wrote:
> On 30/09/15 17:59, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >> UUOR
> >
> > http://www.acronymfinder.com/~/search/af.aspx?Acronym=UUOR&string=exact
>
> 0 matches -- very helpful :)

I was commenting, possibly too subtly, on this list's habit of using 
incomprehensible acronyms.  My basic assumption that we write in order to 
communicate is frequently demonstrated to be erroneous.  :-(

Lisi

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#158485

On Sep 30, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday 30 September 2015 18:08:04 Tony van der Hoff wrote:
>> On 30/09/15 17:59, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>>>> UUOR
>>> 
>>> http://www.acronymfinder.com/~/search/af.aspx?Acronym=UUOR&string=exact
>> 
>> 0 matches -- very helpful :)
> 
> I was commenting, possibly too subtly, on this list's habit of using 
> incomprehensible acronyms.  My basic assumption that we write in order to 
> communicate is frequently demonstrated to be erroneous.  :-(

I was taught (a while back, I'll admit) that the way to use an acronym is to spell it out with the acronym's letters in upper case, and with the acronym in parentheses right behind it, the first time it's used, then use whichever you like after that. 

There are those of us who don't know acronyms as well as others.

-- 
Glenn English

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