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  googleearth-package (jessie) rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-09-30 05:20 +0200
    Re: googleearth-package (jessie) rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-09-30 06:40 +0200
      Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Heracles <heracles@iprimus.com.au> - 2015-09-30 07:40 +0200
        Re: googleearth-package (jessie) rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-09-30 08:00 +0200
          Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Heracles <heracles@iprimus.com.au> - 2015-09-30 08:10 +0200
            Re: googleearth-package (jessie) rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-09-30 08:30 +0200
            Re: googleearth-package (jessie) rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-03 07:30 +0200
              Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Petter Adsen <petter@synth.no> - 2015-10-03 10:00 +0200
                Re: googleearth-package (jessie) rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-03 21:00 +0200
              Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 18:10 +0200
                Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2015-10-03 19:20 +0200
                  Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 21:00 +0200
                    Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 21:10 +0200
                      Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> - 2015-10-03 21:30 +0200
                        Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Wayne Topa <linuxtwo@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 22:50 +0200
                        Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 23:20 +0200
                      Re: googleearth-package (jessie) rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-03 21:30 +0200
                        Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 23:00 +0200
                          Re: googleearth-package (jessie) The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2015-10-03 23:20 +0200
                          Re: googleearth-package (jessie) rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-03 23:40 +0200
                            Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 23:40 +0200
                              Re: googleearth-package (jessie) rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-03 23:50 +0200
                                Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 00:30 +0200
                            Re: googleearth-package (jessie) John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-10-03 23:50 +0200
                              Re: googleearth-package (jessie) rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-04 00:10 +0200
                                Re: googleearth-package (jessie) John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-10-04 00:40 +0200
                                Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 00:40 +0200
                        Re: googleearth-package -- errata rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-10-04 00:50 +0200
                          Re: googleearth-package -- errata Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 13:40 +0200
              Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Heracles <heracles@iprimus.com.au> - 2015-10-04 10:10 +0200
                Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Heracles <heracles@iprimus.com.au> - 2015-10-04 10:20 +0200
      Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-09-30 15:30 +0200
        Re: googleearth-package (jessie) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2015-09-30 15:50 +0200
          Re: googleearth-package (jessie) rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-09-30 16:10 +0200
        Re: googleearth-package (jessie) rlharris@oplink.net - 2015-09-30 16:00 +0200
          Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2015-09-30 18:50 +0200
            Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 19:00 +0200
              Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Tony van der Hoff <tony@vanderhoff.org> - 2015-09-30 19:10 +0200
                Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 22:00 +0200
                  Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Glenn English <ghe@slsware.net> - 2015-09-30 22:10 +0200
                    Re: googleearth-package (jessie) Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 23:00 +0200

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#158437 — googleearth-package (jessie)

Progress report:

I followed the tutorial http://sparkylinux.org/forum/index.php?topic=2535.0.

dpkg reported two missing dependencies, namely, libfreeimage3 and
lsb-core.  To install them, synaptic needed to uninstall googleearth.

After installing the two packages, I executed the dpkg -i command
suggested by dpkg (which command did not include the -f option), and the
installation completed without error.

However, upon launching /usr/bin/googleearth, nothing appears to happen. 
I noticed that the file was only 546 bytes, and is a bash script; it reads
as follows:

======================================================

#!/bin/sh

# 556102
export LC_ALL=C

cd /usr/lib/googleearth

# this no longer works with Google Earth 4.3, so we have to revert to
using LD_LIBRARY_PATH, sorry
#exec /lib/ld-linux.so.2 --library-path /usr/lib/googleearth
/usr/lib/googleearth/googleearth-bin "$@"

GOOGLE_EARTH_LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/googleearth
if [ ! -z "$LD_LIBRARY_PATH" ]; then
  LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}:${GOOGLE_EARTH_LD_LIBRARY_PATH}
else
  LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${GOOGLE_EARTH_LD_LIBRARY_PATH}
fi
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH
/usr/lib/googleearth/googleearth-bin "$@"

==============================================

Now what should I try?

RLH

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#158441

Further progress:

Launching googlearth from a terminal prompt produces the error message:

/usr/lib/googleearth-bin: error while loading shared libraries:
libcurl.so.4 cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.

Jessie has the following libcurl3 packages:
    libcurl3
    libcurl3-gnutls
    libcurl3-ncs

but only the following libcurl4 packages:
    libcurl4-gnutls-dev
    libcurl4-nss-dev
    libcurl4-openssl-dev

Would any of these satisfy googleearth-bin?

RLH

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#158442

On 30/09/15 14:31, rlharris@oplink.net wrote:
> Further progress:
>
> Launching googlearth from a terminal prompt produces the error message:
>
> /usr/lib/googleearth-bin: error while loading shared libraries:
> libcurl.so.4 cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.
>
> Jessie has the following libcurl3 packages:
>      libcurl3
>      libcurl3-gnutls
>      libcurl3-ncs
>
> but only the following libcurl4 packages:
>      libcurl4-gnutls-dev
>      libcurl4-nss-dev
>      libcurl4-openssl-dev
>
> Would any of these satisfy googleearth-bin?
>
> RLH
>
>
>
I'm not sure if it still the case, but to get google-earth working on my 
64 bit system some months ago I had to patch the script and repack the 
package. The instructions on what was required was (and probably still 
is) available on the net. I was using Ubuntu back then but it may also 
be true for Debian.
Heracles

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#158444

On Wed, September 30, 2015 12:38 am, Heracles wrote:
> I'm not sure if it still the case, but to get google-earth working on my
> 64 bit system some months ago I had to patch the script and repack the
> package. The instructions on what was required was (and probably still is)
> available on the net. I was using Ubuntu back then ...

Thanks for the tip.  I decided that I rather devote to GE a Linux machine
on the BLUE port of my router (which is isolated from the GREEN port),
rather than to endure the insult of a W$ machine on the premises.   And
while I still hope to run GE under Debian, Ubuntu is preferable to W$.

RLH

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#158445

On 30/09/15 15:55, rlharris@oplink.net wrote:
> On Wed, September 30, 2015 12:38 am, Heracles wrote:
>> I'm not sure if it still the case, but to get google-earth working on my
>> 64 bit system some months ago I had to patch the script and repack the
>> package. The instructions on what was required was (and probably still is)
>> available on the net. I was using Ubuntu back then ...
> Thanks for the tip.  I decided that I rather devote to GE a Linux machine
> on the BLUE port of my router (which is isolated from the GREEN port),
> rather than to endure the insult of a W$ machine on the premises.   And
> while I still hope to run GE under Debian, Ubuntu is preferable to W$.
>
> RLH
>
>
>
>
I just installed Google-Earth using "synaptic" in Debian8 and it worked 
fine. It had to install a few other bits and pieces but as it did all 
the work I was fine with it. Google-earth works without errors.
Heracles

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#158446

On Wed, September 30, 2015 1:08 am, Heracles wrote:
> I just installed Google-Earth using "synaptic" in Debian8 and it worked
> fine. It had to install a few other bits and pieces but as it did all the
> work I was fine with it. Google-earth works without errors. Heracles

So I have wasted an entire evening with the Debian package
"googleearth-package" which I did not need?  Fooey!  I do thank you,
Heracles.

RLH

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#158533

On Wed, September 30, 2015 1:08 am, Heracles wrote:
> I just installed Google-Earth using "synaptic" in Debian8 and it worked
> fine. It had to install a few other bits and pieces but as it did all the
> work I was fine with it. Google-earth works without errors. Heracles

Heracles,

Would you be so kind as to outline the procedure for using synaptic to
install the .deb package which I downloaded from the Google Earth web
site?

I use synaptic all the time, but always with packages which are in the
Debian repositories.  I searched and saw that some people are installing
using "dpkg -i"; but does that take care of dependencies?

I plan to run GE on a i386 laptop, so the package which I downloaded is
the 32-bit:

   google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb

Thanks.

Russ

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#158536

On Sat, 3 Oct 2015 00:21:44 -0500
rlharris@oplink.net wrote:

> On Wed, September 30, 2015 1:08 am, Heracles wrote:
> > I just installed Google-Earth using "synaptic" in Debian8 and it worked
> > fine. It had to install a few other bits and pieces but as it did all the
> > work I was fine with it. Google-earth works without errors. Heracles
> 
> Heracles,
> 
> Would you be so kind as to outline the procedure for using synaptic to
> install the .deb package which I downloaded from the Google Earth web
> site?
> 
> I use synaptic all the time, but always with packages which are in the
> Debian repositories.  I searched and saw that some people are installing
> using "dpkg -i"; but does that take care of dependencies?
> 
> I plan to run GE on a i386 laptop, so the package which I downloaded is
> the 32-bit:
> 
>    google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb

Use gdebi. That will handle dependencies.

Petter

-- 
"I'm ionized"
"Are you sure?"
"I'm positive."

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#158548

On Sat, October 3, 2015 2:51 am, Petter Adsen wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Oct 2015 00:21:44 -0500
> rlharris@oplink.net wrote:
...
>> Would you be so kind as to outline the procedure for using synaptic to
>> install the .deb package which I downloaded from the Google Earth web
>> site?
...
> Use gdebi. That will handle dependencies.


That was almost too easy.  What a marvelous little package!  But this is
first time I have heard of it.

Many thanks; I now am running GE/Xfce/Jessie on my i386 laptop.

Russ

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#158544

On Saturday 03 October 2015 06:21:44 rlharris@oplink.net wrote:
>  I searched and saw that some people are installing
> using "dpkg -i"; but does that take care of dependencies?

No.  But try:

# dpkg -i foo.deb

Which will probably complain about dependencies, then:

# apt-get -f install
Which will sort out the dependencies and finish installing foo.deb.

I just tried it for the first time, and it worked a treat.

Otherwise, list the missing dependencies and install them manually!  (Or with 
Synaptic.)

Lisi

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#158546

On 2015-10-03, Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday 03 October 2015 06:21:44 rlharris@oplink.net wrote:
>>  I searched and saw that some people are installing
>> using "dpkg -i"; but does that take care of dependencies?
>
> No.  But try:
>
> # dpkg -i foo.deb
>
> Which will probably complain about dependencies, then:
>
> # apt-get -f install
> Which will sort out the dependencies and finish installing foo.deb.
>
> I just tried it for the first time, and it worked a treat.

> Otherwise, list the missing dependencies and install them manually!  (Or with 
> Synaptic.)

Didn't someone mention gdebi?  

 Description: Simple tool to install deb files - GNOME GUI
 gdebi lets you install local deb packages resolving and installing
 its dependencies. apt does the same, but only for remote (http, ftp)
 located packages.

I think it was Petter (not sure of spelling).

> Lisi
>
>


-- 

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#158547

On Saturday 03 October 2015 18:18:08 Curt wrote:
> On 2015-10-03, Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Saturday 03 October 2015 06:21:44 rlharris@oplink.net wrote:
> >>  I searched and saw that some people are installing
> >> using "dpkg -i"; but does that take care of dependencies?
> >
> > No.  But try:
> >
> > # dpkg -i foo.deb
> >
> > Which will probably complain about dependencies, then:
> >
> > # apt-get -f install
> > Which will sort out the dependencies and finish installing foo.deb.
> >
> > I just tried it for the first time, and it worked a treat.
> >
> > Otherwise, list the missing dependencies and install them manually!  (Or
> > with Synaptic.)
>
> Didn't someone mention gdebi?

Yes. 

So are you saying that only solutions applicable to GNOME, and nothing else, 
are allowed on this list now?  Do we actually know that the OP uses Gnome?  
That all future readers of the archives will use Gnome?

And are you saying that only those prepared to offer GUI solutions are allowed 
to answer questions specifically about CLI problems, in this case, in this 
post, specifically dpkg -i?

Lisi

>  Description: Simple tool to install deb files - GNOME GUI
>  gdebi lets you install local deb packages resolving and installing
>  its dependencies. apt does the same, but only for remote (http, ftp)
>  located packages.
>
> I think it was Petter (not sure of spelling).
>
> > Lisi

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#158549

On Saturday 03 October 2015 19:50:18 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> Do we actually know that the OP uses Gnome?  
> That all future readers of the archives will use Gnome?

The OP has since posted.  I was forgetting that several other desktops use 
Gnome applications.  But I still maintain that a CLI answer to a CLI question 
is worth having in the archives.

Lisi

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#158550

Le 03/10/2015 21:21, rlharris@oplink.net a écrit :
> On Sat, October 3, 2015 2:06 pm, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>> On Saturday 03 October 2015 19:50:18 Lisi Reisz wrote:
>>> Do we actually know that the OP uses Gnome? Â 
>>> That all future readers of the archives will use Gnome?
>> I was forgetting that several other desktops
>> use Gnome applications.  But I still maintain that a CLI answer to a CLI
>> question is worth having in the archives.
> Perhaps I missed something, but
>
> (1) is gdebi a Gnome package? and
>
> (2) what is not CLI about the command:
>
>     ~/Downloads # gdebi gnome-earth-stable_current_i386.deb
>
> Russ
>
>
>

the gdebi package contains the gnome version, the cli is in gdebi-core.
There is also a kde version in gdebi-kde

Maybe a wishlist bug for renaming the packages, since it is strange the
gdebi command is not in the gdebi package.

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#158552

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On Oct 3, 2015 4:28 PM, "Erwan David" <erwan@rail.eu.org> wrote:

> Le 03/10/2015 21:21, rlharris@oplink.net a écrit :
> > On Sat, October 3, 2015 2:06 pm, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >> On Saturday 03 October 2015 19:50:18 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >>> Do we actually know that the OP uses Gnome? Â
> >>> That all future readers of the archives will use Gnome?
> >> I was forgetting that several other desktops
> >> use Gnome applications.  But I still maintain that a CLI answer to a CLI
> >> question is worth having in the archives.
> > Perhaps I missed something, but
> >
> > (1) is gdebi a Gnome package? and
> >
> > (2) what is not CLI about the command:
> >
> >     ~/Downloads # gdebi gnome-earth-stable_current_i386.deb
> >
> > Russ
> >
> >
> >
>
> the gdebi package contains the gnome version, the cli is in gdebi-core.
> There is also a kde version in gdebi-kde
>
> Maybe a wishlist bug for renaming the packages, since it is strange the
> gdebi command is not in the gdebi package.
>
>

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#158556

On Saturday 03 October 2015 20:27:47 Erwan David wrote:
> Le 03/10/2015 21:21, rlharris@oplink.net a écrit :
> > On Sat, October 3, 2015 2:06 pm, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >> On Saturday 03 October 2015 19:50:18 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >>> Do we actually know that the OP uses Gnome? Â
> >>> That all future readers of the archives will use Gnome?
> >>
> >> I was forgetting that several other desktops
> >> use Gnome applications.  But I still maintain that a CLI answer to a CLI
> >> question is worth having in the archives.
> >
> > Perhaps I missed something, but
> >
> > (1) is gdebi a Gnome package? and
> >
> > (2) what is not CLI about the command:
> >
> >     ~/Downloads # gdebi gnome-earth-stable_current_i386.deb
> >
> > Russ
>
> the gdebi package contains the gnome version, the cli is in gdebi-core.
> There is also a kde version in gdebi-kde
>
> Maybe a wishlist bug for renaming the packages, since it is strange the
> gdebi command is not in the gdebi package.

Thanks, Erwan for the explanation.  So I haven't quite gone mad, and aptitude 
search explains all.  gdebi GNOME GUI is indeed a Gnome GUI tool.  But the 
gdebi command is, according to aptitude search, in gdebi-core, which I have 
installed.  I have not installed either of the GUI packages.  I'll see 
whether it works next time I have a .deb to install.

Lisi

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#158551

On Sat, October 3, 2015 2:06 pm, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Saturday 03 October 2015 19:50:18 Lisi Reisz wrote:
>> Do we actually know that the OP uses Gnome?  
>> That all future readers of the archives will use Gnome?
> I was forgetting that several other desktops
> use Gnome applications.  But I still maintain that a CLI answer to a CLI
> question is worth having in the archives.

Perhaps I missed something, but

(1) is gdebi a Gnome package? and

(2) what is not CLI about the command:

    ~/Downloads # gdebi gnome-earth-stable_current_i386.deb

Russ

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#158553

On Saturday 03 October 2015 20:21:55 rlharris@oplink.net wrote:
> On Sat, October 3, 2015 2:06 pm, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Saturday 03 October 2015 19:50:18 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >> Do we actually know that the OP uses Gnome?  
> >> That all future readers of the archives will use Gnome?
> >
> > I was forgetting that several other desktops
> > use Gnome applications.  But I still maintain that a CLI answer to a CLI
> > question is worth having in the archives.
>
> Perhaps I missed something, but
>
> (1) is gdebi a Gnome package? and

Curt said it was:  Simple tool to install deb files - GNOME GUI
>
> (2) what is not CLI about the command:
>
Nothing.  I stand corrected.  But almost all references to it, including 
aptitude show and its name, refer to its graphical user interface.

> Simple tool to install deb files - **GNOME GUI**

>     ~/Downloads # gdebi gnome-earth-stable_current_i386.deb

I also thought that the package you were trying to install was 
called "googleearth".  It says so in the subject line.  Ah!  A search 
suggests that you did actually mean googleearth not gnome-earth.

"gdebi is a simple tool to install deb files. It lets you install local deb 
packages resolving and installing. its dependencies. apt does the same, but 
only for remote (http, ftp) located package repositories. It has a graphical 
user interface but can also be used in your terminal."

I had not gathered the last few words.  It is obviously a very useful tool.  
But it raises another question.  Why is it called "GNOME GUI", which it does 
seem to be consistently, if it is neither a Gnome tool nor a GUI one??

I've only just gravitated to apt-get -f install.  I obviously need to 
gravitate to gdebi.  

Lisi

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#158555

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On 2015-10-03 at 16:56, Lisi Reisz wrote:

> "gdebi is a simple tool to install deb files. It lets you install local deb 
> packages resolving and installing. its dependencies. apt does the same, but 
> only for remote (http, ftp) located package repositories. It has a graphical 
> user interface but can also be used in your terminal."
> 
> I had not gathered the last few words.  It is obviously a very useful tool.  
> But it raises another question.  Why is it called "GNOME GUI", which it does 
> seem to be consistently, if it is neither a Gnome tool nor a GUI one??

There are three relevant packages here:

$ apt-cache search gdebi | grep gdebi
gdebi - simple tool to view and install deb files - GNOME GUI
gdebi-core - simple tool to install deb files
gdebi-kde - simple tool to install deb files - KDE GUI

The CLI to gdebi is in the gdebi-core package. There are two GUIs
available, which are in separate packages, which are labeled
appropriately.


It would probably be more appropriate if the three packages were named
'gdebi-gnome', 'gdebi-cli', and 'gdebi-kde', respectively, with the
unadorned 'gdebi' being either a metapackage or a virtual package. (And
possibly with a separate 'gdebi-core' or 'gdebi-common' package for the
shared elements, which are currently in the same package as the CLI.)

The maintainer has not chosen to do it that way, however, and the
current approach does make some amount of sense.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.         -- George Bernard Shaw

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#158557

On Sat, October 3, 2015 3:56 pm, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> I also thought that the package you were trying to install was
> called "googleearth".  It says so in the subject line.  Ah!  A search
> suggests that you did actually mean googleearth not gnome-earth.

As best as I can put together the pieces, some time ago Google created a
Debian package of Google Earth (gnome-earth-stable_current_i386.deb); the
package is available for download from http://www.google.com/earth/.  But
until recently, Debian users have experienced difficulty installing the
package and some have found the program problematic, once installed.

So, someone in the realm of Debian put together a package called
"googleearth-package", the function of which is to (1) download from the
Google web site the latest stable revision of Google Earth, (2) from it
build a new Debian package, and (3) install the new Debian package.  That
appears to have been a good solution.

However, pretty much coincident with the advent of Jessie, the
"gnome-earth-stable_current_i386.deb" package provided by Google appears
to install and run properly, at least when installed with the command
"gdebi gnome-earth-stable_current_i386.deb".

So, at the present time, it appears that the need for
"googleearth-package" has passed -- at least with respect to Jessie (and
in my case, with the combination of Xfce on an i386 system).  Direct
installation with gdebi is simpler and faster.

P.S. I am posting this to the list simply because the knowledge would have
saved me a number of hours of search and trial and error.

Russ

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