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An issue with the Debian installer

Started by	Zack <emailme2015@gmx.com>
First post	2015-09-25 18:10 +0200
Last post	2015-09-25 22:50 +0200
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  An issue with the Debian installer Zack <emailme2015@gmx.com> - 2015-09-25 18:10 +0200
    Re: An issue with the Debian installer Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2015-09-25 19:30 +0200
      Re: An issue with the Debian installer Zack <emailme2015@gmx.com> - 2015-09-25 21:10 +0200
        Re: An issue with the Debian installer Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2015-09-25 21:30 +0200
        Re: An issue with the Debian installer Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2015-09-25 21:30 +0200
          Re: An issue with the Debian installer Zack <emailme2015@gmx.com> - 2015-09-25 21:40 +0200
            Re: An issue with the Debian installer Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2015-09-25 23:10 +0200
            Re: An issue with the Debian installer Charlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com> - 2015-09-26 01:30 +0200
          Re: An issue with the Debian installer Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2015-09-26 11:50 +0200
            Re: An issue with the Debian installer Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2015-09-26 13:50 +0200
              Re: An issue with the Debian installer Charlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com> - 2015-09-26 16:40 +0200
        Re: An issue with the Debian installer Antti Talsta <atalsta@nothingtosee.org> - 2015-09-26 02:40 +0200
          Re: An issue with the Debian installer "LinuxAus ." <heracles1108@gmail.com> - 2015-09-26 04:40 +0200
            Re: An issue with the Debian installer Heracles <heracles@iprimus.com.au> - 2015-09-27 08:40 +0200
            Re: An issue with the Debian installer Bob Holtzman <holtzm@cox.net> - 2015-09-27 22:20 +0200
      Re: An issue with the Debian installer real bas <realbas89@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 21:10 +0200
    Re: An issue with the Debian installer Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-25 19:40 +0200
      Re: An issue with the Debian installer Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-25 22:50 +0200

#158240 — An issue with the Debian installer

From	Zack <emailme2015@gmx.com>
Date	2015-09-25 18:10 +0200
Subject	An issue with the Debian installer
Message-ID	<qcDJo-6jZ-11@gated-at.bofh.it>

Hi, guys, how's it going? I got one question:

I installed the system using the CD 1. Everything was fine (the 
installation process). But, when the system runs, it shows the command 
line mode only, not the graphical environment, I mean, not GNOME. What 
should I do to resolve this issue? As I said above, all the installation 
process was ok. Thanks.

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#158243

From	Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk>
Date	2015-09-25 19:30 +0200
Message-ID	<qcEYO-82I-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#158240

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On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 11:58:40 +0200
Zack <emailme2015@gmx.com> wrote:

Hello Zack,

>should I do to resolve this issue? As I said above, all the
>installation process was ok. Thanks.

Try what Zack said first, but it's possible that you didn't install a
graphical DE.  I believe one is highlighted, but not selected in the
installer (I haven't used an installer for several years, but will be
doing so soon(ish)).

If you find X won't start, as root do; apt-get install gnome

Then you should be set.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
Early morning when I wake up, I look like Kiss but without the make up
Strong - Robbie Williams

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#158251

From	Zack <emailme2015@gmx.com>
Date	2015-09-25 21:10 +0200
Message-ID	<qcGxz-1U9-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
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I do not understand why the installer do not install the desktop 
environment (GNOME).

El 25/09/2015 a las 20:43, real bas escribió:
> Hello Zack,
> I suggest you install mate-desktop (looks like gnome2) instead of 
> gnome3 if you have Debian Jessie.
>
> 2015-09-25 13:06 GMT-04:00 Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk 
> <mailto:brad@fineby.me.uk>>:
>
>     On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 11:58:40 +0200
>     Zack <emailme2015@gmx.com <mailto:emailme2015@gmx.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hello Zack,
>
>     >should I do to resolve this issue? As I said above, all the
>     >installation process was ok. Thanks.
>
>     Try what Zack said first, but it's possible that you didn't install a
>     graphical DE.  I believe one is highlighted, but not selected in the
>     installer (I haven't used an installer for several years, but will be
>     doing so soon(ish)).
>
>     If you find X won't start, as root do; apt-get install gnome
>
>     Then you should be set.
>
>     --
>      Regards  _
>              / )           "The blindingly obvious is
>             / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
>     Early morning when I wake up, I look like Kiss but without the make up
>     Strong - Robbie Williams
>
>

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#158253

From	Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Date	2015-09-25 21:30 +0200
Message-ID	<qcGQW-2j5-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#158251

Zack wrote:
> I do not understand why the installer do not install the desktop
> environment (GNOME).
> [snip]

First we need to know exactly what CD or DVD you obtained 
(purchased or downloaded?).

Your problem description reminds me of my first attempts 
installing Debian.

In one case what I got was the Netinstall version. As I did not 
have a functional internet connection at the time, I was left 
with functional, but command line only, minimal system.

The other way I managed to fail was mistakenly ordering the 
command line version of the live edition.

HTH

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#158254

From	Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk>
Date	2015-09-25 21:30 +0200
Message-ID	<qcGQW-2j5-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 21:07:34 +0200
Zack <emailme2015@gmx.com> wrote:

Hello Zack,

>I do not understand why the installer do not install the desktop 
>environment (GNOME).

Because you didn't tell it to.

-- 
 Regards  _
         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
That's what I call you
Heaven Sent - INXS

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#158256

From	Zack <emailme2015@gmx.com>
Date	2015-09-25 21:40 +0200
Message-ID	<qcH0C-2u4-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#158254

Come on, guys, I'm serious. I want the system installed on my computer. 
Should I download again the iso image to retry with a new installer? An 
alternative.

El 25/09/2015 a las 21:21, Brad Rogers escribió:
> On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 21:07:34 +0200
> Zack <emailme2015@gmx.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Zack,
>
>> I do not understand why the installer do not install the desktop
>> environment (GNOME).
> Because you didn't tell it to.
>

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#158265

From	Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk>
Date	2015-09-25 23:10 +0200
Message-ID	<qcIpH-4D0-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#158256

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On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 21:37:50 +0200
Zack <emailme2015@gmx.com> wrote:

Hello Zack,

>Come on, guys, I'm serious. I want the system installed on my computer. 

As was I.

>Should I download again the iso image to retry with a new installer? An 
>alternative.

You've already been told what to do.  Twice, IIRC.

-- 
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         / )           "The blindingly obvious is
        / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
Success defined by acquisition stinks
Money is Not Our God -  Killing Joke

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#158271

From	Charlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com>
Date	2015-09-26 01:30 +0200
Message-ID	<qcKBb-7G0-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#158256

On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 21:37:50 +0200
Zack <emailme2015@gmx.com> wrote:

>Come on, guys, I'm serious. I want the system installed on my computer. 
>Should I download again the iso image to retry with a new installer? An 
>alternative.
>
>El 25/09/2015 a las 21:21, Brad Rogers escribió:
>> On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 21:07:34 +0200
>> Zack <emailme2015@gmx.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Zack,
>>
>>> I do not understand why the installer do not install the desktop
>>> environment (GNOME).

Debian installs different than most linux distributions. The cd
installs the operating system, without any desktop environment (GNOME).
Apparently, many users like to add their own choices to that
installation. One of the questions in the install asked what you want
to add. The different desktops are included in that question, along
with Print Server, SSH Server, and something else. Gnome is
highlighted, but you have to hit space to put an asterisk on it to get
it installed. Now that the installer finished, you can add Gnome. 

>> Because you didn't tell it to.
>>
>

-- 
Charlie Kravetz
Linux Registered User Number 425914
[http://linuxcounter.net/user/425914.html]
Never let anyone steal your DREAM.   [http://keepingdreams.com]

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#158289

From	Curt <curty@free.fr>
Date	2015-09-26 11:50 +0200
Message-ID	<qcUhb-4BB-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#158254

On 2015-09-25, Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 21:07:34 +0200
> Zack <emailme2015@gmx.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Zack,
>
>>I do not understand why the installer do not install the desktop=20
>>environment (GNOME).
>
> Because you didn't tell it to.
>

He appears to have the startx command (he's as short on specifics as he
is long on complaints), so normally when issuing that command at the
console without any GUI environments or window managers installed
whatsover should get him a terminal emulator in a window with a big
black X for a mouse cursor (if memory serves, maybe I'm all wet).

He says the system reboots. That's not normal; something's going haywire
somewhere.

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#158293

From	Curt <curty@free.fr>
Date	2015-09-26 13:50 +0200
Message-ID	<qcW9k-7jw-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#158289

On 2015-09-26, Curt <curty@free.fr> wrote:
> On 2015-09-25, Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 21:07:34 +0200
>> Zack <emailme2015@gmx.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Zack,
>>
>>>I do not understand why the installer do not install the desktop
>>>environment (GNOME).
>>
>> Because you didn't tell it to.
>>
>
> He appears to have the startx command (he's as short on specifics as he
> is long on complaints), so normally when issuing that command at the
> console without any GUI environments or window managers installed
> whatsover should get him a terminal emulator in a window with a big
> black X for a mouse cursor (if memory serves, maybe I'm all wet).

Or maybe I'm thinking of xinit?

Would you have startx at all if you installed no kind of GUI whatsoever.

The answer to these questions and more in the next installment.

> He says the system reboots. That's not normal; something's going haywire
> somewhere.
>
>


--

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#158303

From	Charlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com>
Date	2015-09-26 16:40 +0200
Message-ID	<qcYNP-2IN-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#158293

On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 11:47:35 +0000 (UTC)
Curt <curty@free.fr> wrote:

>On 2015-09-26, Curt <curty@free.fr> wrote:
>> On 2015-09-25, Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 21:07:34 +0200
>>> Zack <emailme2015@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Zack,
>>>
>>>>I do not understand why the installer do not install the desktop
>>>>environment (GNOME).
>>>
>>> Because you didn't tell it to.
>>>
>>
>> He appears to have the startx command (he's as short on specifics as he
>> is long on complaints), so normally when issuing that command at the
>> console without any GUI environments or window managers installed
>> whatsover should get him a terminal emulator in a window with a big
>> black X for a mouse cursor (if memory serves, maybe I'm all wet).
>
>Or maybe I'm thinking of xinit?
>
>Would you have startx at all if you installed no kind of GUI whatsoever.

Considering startx is designed to start the xorg server, without a
graphic desktop, there is no need for it. 

>
>The answer to these questions and more in the next installment.
>
>> He says the system reboots. That's not normal; something's going haywire
>> somewhere.
>>
>>
>
>


-- 
Charlie Kravetz
Linux Registered User Number 425914
[http://linuxcounter.net/user/425914.html]
Never let anyone steal your DREAM.   [http://keepingdreams.com]

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#158275

From	Antti Talsta <atalsta@nothingtosee.org>
Date	2015-09-26 02:40 +0200
Message-ID	<qcLGW-KJ-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#158251

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 09:07:34PM +0200, Zack wrote:
> I do not understand why the installer do not install the desktop environment
> (GNOME).

Maybe you didn't tell it to install it? I don't remember if DE is
selected by default during installation. Probably not cause at least
netinstall has many choices for DE/VM.

-- 
Antti Talsta

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#158280

From	"LinuxAus ." <heracles1108@gmail.com>
Date	2015-09-26 04:40 +0200
Message-ID	<qcNz3-3uM-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#158275

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One simple alternative is to download wukulu Linux which is Debian with the
enlightenment desktop. Then let it upgrade. When I did it I ended up with a
good Debian 8 system with everything working, my WiFi, my printers etc.
On 26/09/2015 10:38 AM, "Antti Talsta" <atalsta@nothingtosee.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 09:07:34PM +0200, Zack wrote:
> > I do not understand why the installer do not install the desktop
> environment
> > (GNOME).
>
> Maybe you didn't tell it to install it? I don't remember if DE is
> selected by default during installation. Probably not cause at least
> netinstall has many choices for DE/VM.
>
> --
> Antti Talsta
>
>

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#158334

From	Heracles <heracles@iprimus.com.au>
Date	2015-09-27 08:40 +0200
Message-ID	<qddMR-7Cu-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#158280

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On 26/09/15 12:14, LinuxAus . wrote:
>
> One simple alternative is to download wukulu Linux which is Debian 
> with the enlightenment desktop. Then let it upgrade. When I did it I 
> ended up with a good Debian 8 system with everything working, my WiFi, 
> my printers etc.
>
That should read Makulu Linux!

> On 26/09/2015 10:38 AM, "Antti Talsta" <atalsta@nothingtosee.org 
> <mailto:atalsta@nothingtosee.org>> wrote:
>
>     On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 09:07:34PM +0200, Zack wrote:
>     > I do not understand why the installer do not install the desktop
>     environment
>     > (GNOME).
>
>     Maybe you didn't tell it to install it? I don't remember if DE is
>     selected by default during installation. Probably not cause at least
>     netinstall has many choices for DE/VM.
>
>     --
>     Antti Talsta
>

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#158354

From	Bob Holtzman <holtzm@cox.net>
Date	2015-09-27 22:20 +0200
Message-ID	<qdqAp-JT-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#158280

On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 12:14:43PM +1000, LinuxAus . wrote:
> One simple alternative is to download wukulu Linux which is Debian with the
> enlightenment desktop. Then let it upgrade. When I did it I ended up with a
> good Debian 8 system with everything working, my WiFi, my printers etc.
> On 26/09/2015 10:38 AM, "Antti Talsta" <atalsta@nothingtosee.org> wrote:
> 

Does it use systemd or sysv?  

> > On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 09:07:34PM +0200, Zack wrote:
> > > I do not understand why the installer do not install the desktop
> > environment
> > > (GNOME).
> >
> > Maybe you didn't tell it to install it? I don't remember if DE is
> > selected by default during installation. Probably not cause at least
> > netinstall has many choices for DE/VM.
> >
> > --
> > Antti Talsta
> >
> >

-- 

Bob Holtzman
A fair fight is the result of poor planning.

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#158252

From	real bas <realbas89@gmail.com>
Date	2015-09-25 21:10 +0200
Message-ID	<qcGxz-1U9-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#158243

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Hello Zack,
I suggest you install mate-desktop (looks like gnome2) instead of gnome3 if
you have Debian Jessie.

2015-09-25 13:06 GMT-04:00 Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk>:

> On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 11:58:40 +0200
> Zack <emailme2015@gmx.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Zack,
>
> >should I do to resolve this issue? As I said above, all the
> >installation process was ok. Thanks.
>
> Try what Zack said first, but it's possible that you didn't install a
> graphical DE.  I believe one is highlighted, but not selected in the
> installer (I haven't used an installer for several years, but will be
> doing so soon(ish)).
>
> If you find X won't start, as root do; apt-get install gnome
>
> Then you should be set.
>
> --
>  Regards  _
>          / )           "The blindingly obvious is
>         / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
> Early morning when I wake up, I look like Kiss but without the make up
> Strong - Robbie Williams
>

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#158246

From	Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
Date	2015-09-25 19:40 +0200
Message-ID	<qcF8u-8dM-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#158240

Zack composed on 2015-09-25 11:58 (UTC+0200):

> Hi, guys, how's it going? I got one question:

> I installed the system using the CD 1. Everything was fine (the 
> installation process). But, when the system runs, it shows the command 
> line mode only, not the graphical environment, I mean, not GNOME. What 
> should I do to resolve this issue? As I said above, all the installation 
> process was ok. Thanks.

How old is your machine? If it's more than 8-10 years old, or very new, it's
possible there's a driver issue involved. What's the output from 'lspci |
grep VGA' and from 'lsmod | grep drm'?
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

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#158263

From	Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
Date	2015-09-25 22:50 +0200
Message-ID	<qcI6l-40T-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#158246

Zack composed on 2015-09-25 19:50 (UTC+0200):

> Felix Miata composed:

>> Zack composed on 2015-09-25 11:58 (UTC+0200):

>>> Hi, guys, how's it going? I got one question:
>>> I installed the system using the CD 1. Everything was fine (the
>>> installation process). But, when the system runs, it shows the command
>>> line mode only, not the graphical environment, I mean, not GNOME. What
>>> should I do to resolve this issue? As I said above, all the installation
>>> process was ok. Thanks.

>> How old is your machine? If it's more than 8-10 years old, or very new, it's
>> possible there's a driver issue involved. What's the output from 'lspci |
>> grep VGA' and from 'lsmod | grep drm'?

> Well, when I run the command "startx", the system restart
> (reboot). I don't know what to do, really.

What to do is login as root at the screen you see, run those commands, and
email back to the mailing list the results. If those don't provide bad
answers, then doing what Kent on 2015-09-25 12:02 (UTC-0500) and Brad on
2015-09-25 18:06 (UTC+0100) suggested should get you going.

Also, answer the question I asked about your computer's age.
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

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#158280

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