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  About new mail client Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras <jemadux@openmailbox.org> - 2015-12-18 10:20 +0100
    Re: About new mail client Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2015-12-18 10:40 +0100
    Re: About new mail client Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2015-12-21 15:00 +0100
      Re: About new mail client Stuart Longland <stuartl@longlandclan.id.au> - 2016-01-20 02:00 +0100
        Re: About new mail client Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2016-01-20 08:10 +0100
          Re: About new mail client Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2016-01-20 10:00 +0100
            Re: About new mail client Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 15:40 +0100
    Re: About new mail client Jonas Hedman <jonas.hedman@fripost.org> - 2016-01-19 14:50 +0100
      Re: About new mail client Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2016-01-19 17:20 +0100
        Re: About new mail client Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2016-01-19 17:40 +0100
      Re: About new mail client Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-01-21 03:50 +0100

#161858 — About new mail client

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My branch is sid and used to use icedove as default mail client . I think with enigmail is kinda broken and I can't use as encryption and sign messages . any suggestions ? I am thinking about sylpheed or claws .which one you suggest me ?
- --
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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#161859

On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 11:12:29 +0200
Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras <jemadux@openmailbox.org> wrote:

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> My branch is sid and used to use icedove as default mail client . I
> think with enigmail is kinda broken and I can't use as encryption and
> sign messages . any suggestions ? I am thinking about sylpheed or
> claws .which one you suggest me ?
>

I think you will need to try both. Icedove is the horrible beast that
it is because it does everything, there will be various features
missing from the others, and the two of them separated quite a few
years ago now.

I have used claws for several years, but I don't do anything exotic
with it, just usenet and local IMAP. It is a little buggy, but at the
moment, nothing important to me is broken.

-- 
Joe

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#161963

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:12:29AM +0200, Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras
wrote:
> 
> My branch is sid and used to use icedove as default mail client . I
> think with enigmail is kinda broken and I can't use as encryption and
> sign messages . any suggestions ? I am thinking about sylpheed or
> claws .which one you suggest me ?

You may want to consider mutt, it integrates with PGP, and doesn't
append emails with gibberish.

> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Sent using mutt from my laptop!

-- 
"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
oppressing." --- Malcolm X

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#163303

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On 21/12/15 23:59, Chris Bannister wrote:
>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
> Sent using mutt from my laptop!

Oddly enough, I've found mutt running on my server from my phone using
ConnectBot (for SSH) vastly superior to K-9 Mail (and the stock Android
client) in a number of ways.

The two downsides being a lack of incoming mail notification and
attachment handling being a pain.

Other than that, I find sending a quick email or replying to be easier.
-- 
Stuart Longland (aka Redhatter, VK4MSL)

I haven't lost my mind...
  ...it's backed up on a tape somewhere.

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#163308

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 10:51:53AM +1000, Stuart Longland wrote:
> On 21/12/15 23:59, Chris Bannister wrote:
> >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Umm, I didn't write that. (You went overboard with your snipping.)

> > Sent using mutt from my laptop!
> 
> Oddly enough, I've found mutt running on my server from my phone using
> ConnectBot (for SSH) vastly superior to K-9 Mail (and the stock Android
> client) in a number of ways.

-- 
"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
oppressing." --- Malcolm X

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#163315

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On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 08:05:07PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
>On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 10:51:53AM +1000, Stuart Longland wrote:
>> On 21/12/15 23:59, Chris Bannister wrote:
>> >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>
>Umm, I didn't write that. (You went overboard with your snipping.)

From what I can see, you did. Note that the line is double-quoted. The 
line under, which you wrote is single-quoted, but the "Sent from..." 
line WAS there in your email, quoted from the OP. Stuart was simply 
quoting your quote.

>
>> > Sent using mutt from my laptop!
>>
>> Oddly enough, I've found mutt running on my server from my phone using
>> ConnectBot (for SSH) vastly superior to K-9 Mail (and the stock Android
>> client) in a number of ways.
>
>-- 
>"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
>who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the
>oppressing." --- Malcolm X
>

-- 
For more information, please reread.

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#163322

On 1/20/16, Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 08:05:07PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
>>On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 10:51:53AM +1000, Stuart Longland wrote:
>>> On 21/12/15 23:59, Chris Bannister wrote:
>>> >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>
>>Umm, I didn't write that. (You went overboard with your snipping.)
>
> From what I can see, you did. Note that the line is double-quoted. The
> line under, which you wrote is single-quoted, but the "Sent from..."
> line WAS there in your email, quoted from the OP. Stuart was simply
> quoting your quote.


Out of curiosity, I just went dumpster diving in my email's trash
bucket. It is in fact from an email by Chris. Chris quoted a previous
post by someone else before then responding to it. Chris did not
originate the "Android" line.

Cindy :)

-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* words #fail me. *

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#163285

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On 15-12-18 11:12:29, Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras wrote:
> My branch is sid and used to use icedove as default mail client . I think with enigmail is kinda broken and I can't use as encryption and sign messages . any suggestions ? I am thinking about sylpheed or claws .which one you suggest me ?
> --
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
> 

What about som textbased client like mutt or alpine?



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Jonas Hedman 

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#163292

On Tue, 19 Jan 2016, Jonas Hedman wrote:

> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 08:41:22
> From: Jonas Hedman <jonas.hedman@fripost.org>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: About new mail client
> 
> On 15-12-18 11:12:29, Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras wrote:
>> My branch is sid and used to use icedove as default mail client . I think with enigmail is kinda broken and I can't use as encryption and sign messages . any suggestions ? I am thinking about sylpheed or claws .which one you suggest me ?
>> --
>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>
>
> What about som textbased client like mutt or alpine?
>
Another possibility along these lines would be nmh.  The thing I like 
about nmh is it doesn't store messages in mbox format files.  Each 
message lives in its own file.  This might seem trivial to many until 
clamav quarrantines your entire mbox file because it found a virus in a 
single message.  I had that happen to me once and lost over 600 other 
messages that way.  It's necessary to use the inc command inside nmh to 
pull messages off the mail spool file into nmh and once this is done, the 
mail spool file is expendible.  Clamav runs on a machine set up this way 
it only quarrantines the specific messages with the viruses in them and 
leaves the rest tested and unmolested so you can read them later.  Of 
course nmh is made up of several commands so it takes a little more to 
learn to use it but with use you're not stuck in one mail client program.

> 
> >

--

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#163293

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 11:11:33AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Jan 2016, Jonas Hedman wrote:
> 
> >Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 08:41:22
> >From: Jonas Hedman <jonas.hedman@fripost.org>
> >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> >Subject: Re: About new mail client
> >
> >On 15-12-18 11:12:29, Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras wrote:
> >>My branch is sid and used to use icedove as default mail client . I think with enigmail is kinda broken and I can't use as encryption and sign messages . any suggestions ? I am thinking about sylpheed or claws .which one you suggest me ?
> >>--
> >>Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
> >>
> >
> >What about som textbased client like mutt or alpine?
> >
> Another possibility along these lines would be nmh.  The thing I like
> about nmh is it doesn't store messages in mbox format files.  Each
> message lives in its own file.  This might seem trivial to many until
> clamav quarrantines your entire mbox file because it found a virus in
> a single message.  I had that happen to me once and lost over 600
> other messages that way.  It's necessary to use the inc command
> inside nmh to pull messages off the mail spool file into nmh and once
> this is done, the mail spool file is expendible.  Clamav runs on a
> machine set up this way it only quarrantines the specific messages
> with the viruses in them and leaves the rest tested and unmolested so
> you can read them later.  Of course nmh is made up of several
> commands so it takes a little more to learn to use it but with use
> you're not stuck in one mail client program.
> 

This is similar to the (now more widely supported) maildir
format, which has the added benefits of being safe for use over
NFS and stranger remote filesystems, with multiple concurrent
access.

Maildir is supported by many packages, including Postfix, qmail,
Exim, procmail, mutt, Thunderbird, etc and so forth and so on.

-dsr-

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#163351

On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 14:41:22 +0100
Jonas Hedman <jonas.hedman@fripost.org> wrote:

> On 15-12-18 11:12:29, Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras wrote:
> > My branch is sid and used to use icedove as default mail client . I
> > think with enigmail is kinda broken and I can't use as encryption
> > and sign messages . any suggestions ? I am thinking about sylpheed
> > or claws .which one you suggest me ? -- Sent from my Android device
> > with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
> > 
> 
> What about som textbased client like mutt or alpine?

He appears to be searching for a graphical client of some sort, hence
the suggestions. Text-based clients are not to the preference of all,
especially those used to graphical clients.

As you can no doubt see from my User-Agent header, I use Claws. It is
relatively lightweight, and very easy to configure.

Claws and Sylpheed are almost identical- Claws is just more popular,
has a larger community, and some nice user interface tweaks.

I recommend Claws. It Bites!

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