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Problem with apt-get and sources.list

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First post2016-01-13 19:40 +0100
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  Problem with apt-get and sources.list Amr Saber <amr.m.saber.mail@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 19:40 +0100
    Re: Problem with apt-get and sources.list Charlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com> - 2016-01-13 22:20 +0100
      Re: Problem with apt-get and sources.list Jose Martinez <jomartinez812@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 22:20 +0100
    Re: Problem with apt-get and sources.list David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2016-01-14 00:30 +0100
      Re: Problem with apt-get and sources.list Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 00:40 +0100
        Re: Problem with apt-get and sources.list Amr Saber <amr.m.saber.mail@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 00:50 +0100
        Re: Problem with apt-get and sources.list Jose Martinez <jomartinez812@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 01:10 +0100
          Re: Problem with apt-get and sources.list Jochen Spieker <ml@well-adjusted.de> - 2016-01-14 01:20 +0100
            Re: Problem with apt-get and sources.list Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 02:10 +0100
            Re: Problem with apt-get and sources.list Jose Martinez <jomartinez812@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 02:40 +0100
    Re: Problem with apt-get and sources.list Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-01-14 19:50 +0100
      Re: Problem with apt-get and sources.list Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-01-14 20:10 +0100
        Re: Problem with apt-get and sources.list Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-01-15 10:00 +0100
          Re: Problem with apt-get and sources.list Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-01-15 20:40 +0100
            Re: Problem with apt-get and sources.list Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-01-21 03:50 +0100
              Re: Problem with apt-get and sources.list Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-01-21 12:00 +0100
      Re: Problem with apt-get and sources.list Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2016-01-15 20:20 +0100
        Re: Problem with apt-get and sources.list Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> - 2016-01-21 03:50 +0100
          Re: Problem with apt-get and sources.list Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> - 2016-01-21 11:20 +0100
            Re: Problem with apt-get and sources.list Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-01-21 12:10 +0100
              Re: Problem with apt-get and sources.list Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2016-01-21 13:10 +0100

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#162996 — Problem with apt-get and sources.list

FromAmr Saber <amr.m.saber.mail@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-13 19:40 +0100
SubjectProblem with apt-get and sources.list
Message-ID<qQyuR-3Ce-13@gated-at.bofh.it>

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Hi there,
While I was configuring some thing in the sources.list file as apt-get
couldn't get any package I wanted or asked for (I double checked the
spelling for each package) and it just said package not found ...
any way, The problem is that the sources.list file was accidentally deleted
and I can't find any version of it online and ofcourse the apt-get is no
longer working at all

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#163000

FromCharlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com>
Date2016-01-13 22:20 +0100
Message-ID<qQAZH-5re-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#162996
On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 20:31:18 +0200
Amr Saber <amr.m.saber.mail@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi there,
>While I was configuring some thing in the sources.list file as apt-get
>couldn't get any package I wanted or asked for (I double checked the
>spelling for each package) and it just said package not found ...
>any way, The problem is that the sources.list file was accidentally deleted
>and I can't find any version of it online and ofcourse the apt-get is no
>longer working at all

When you are ready to learn how to build a new one:
https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList

-- 
Charlie Kravetz
Linux Registered User Number 425914
[http://linuxcounter.net/user/425914.html]
Never let anyone steal your DREAM.   [http://keepingdreams.com]

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#163001

FromJose Martinez <jomartinez812@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-13 22:20 +0100
Message-ID<qQAZI-5re-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#163000

On 01/13/2016 02:38 PM, Charlie Kravetz wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 20:31:18 +0200
> Amr Saber <amr.m.saber.mail@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>> While I was configuring some thing in the sources.list file as apt-get
>> couldn't get any package I wanted or asked for (I double checked the
>> spelling for each package) and it just said package not found ...
>> any way, The problem is that the sources.list file was accidentally deleted
>> and I can't find any version of it online and ofcourse the apt-get is no
>> longer working at all
>
> When you are ready to learn how to build a new one:
> https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList
>

You can also check out man 5 sources.list for some good information.
-- 
Que te vaya bien
JM

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#163003

FromDavid Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
Date2016-01-14 00:30 +0100
Message-ID<qQD1w-6Mu-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#162996
On 01/13/2016 10:31 AM, Amr Saber wrote:
> Hi there,
> While I was configuring some thing in the sources.list file as apt-get
> couldn't get any package I wanted or asked for (I double checked the
> spelling for each package) and it just said package not found ...

You can search for packages here:

     http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages

> any way, The problem is that the sources.list file was accidentally deleted

It's useful to make copies of original configuration files before 
editing them:

     # cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list-orig

     # vi /etc/apt/sources.list


Better yet is putting them into a version control system.


 > and I can't find any version of it online and ofcourse the apt-get is
 > no longer working at all

Somebody already posted a Jessie file.  Here's my Wheezy file:

$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
#deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.8.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 xfce-CD 
Binary-1 20150110-14:41]/ wheezy main

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main

deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main

deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-backports main


David

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#163004

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-14 00:40 +0100
Message-ID<qQDbc-6Qp-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#163003
On Wednesday 13 January 2016 23:22:30 David Christensen wrote:
> On 01/13/2016 10:31 AM, Amr Saber wrote:
> > Hi there,
> > While I was configuring some thing in the sources.list file as apt-get
> > couldn't get any package I wanted or asked for (I double checked the
> > spelling for each package) and it just said package not found ...
>
> You can search for packages here:
>
>      http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
>
> > any way, The problem is that the sources.list file was accidentally
> > deleted
>
> It's useful to make copies of original configuration files before
> editing them:
>
>      # cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list-orig
>
>      # vi /etc/apt/sources.list
>
>
> Better yet is putting them into a version control system.
>
>  > and I can't find any version of it online and ofcourse the apt-get is
>  > no longer working at all
>
> Somebody already posted a Jessie file.  Here's my Wheezy file:
>
> $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
> #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.8.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 xfce-CD
> Binary-1 20150110-14:41]/ wheezy main
>
> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main
> deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main
>
> deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main
>
> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main
> deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main
>
> deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-backports main
>
>
> David

And in case you are less purist:

deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib non-free

deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free

deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free

deb http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main contrib non-free

deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ wheezy-backports iceweasel-release

Though in both cases Brian's choice of mirror was better.

Lisi

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#163005

FromAmr Saber <amr.m.saber.mail@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-14 00:50 +0100
Message-ID<qQDkS-6Vy-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
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I really cant thank you all enough :)
On 14 Jan 2016 01:39, "Lisi Reisz" <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday 13 January 2016 23:22:30 David Christensen wrote:
> > On 01/13/2016 10:31 AM, Amr Saber wrote:
> > > Hi there,
> > > While I was configuring some thing in the sources.list file as apt-get
> > > couldn't get any package I wanted or asked for (I double checked the
> > > spelling for each package) and it just said package not found ...
> >
> > You can search for packages here:
> >
> >      http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
> >
> > > any way, The problem is that the sources.list file was accidentally
> > > deleted
> >
> > It's useful to make copies of original configuration files before
> > editing them:
> >
> >      # cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list-orig
> >
> >      # vi /etc/apt/sources.list
> >
> >
> > Better yet is putting them into a version control system.
> >
> >  > and I can't find any version of it online and ofcourse the apt-get is
> >  > no longer working at all
> >
> > Somebody already posted a Jessie file.  Here's my Wheezy file:
> >
> > $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
> > #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.8.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 xfce-CD
> > Binary-1 20150110-14:41]/ wheezy main
> >
> > deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main
> > deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main
> >
> > deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main
> > deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main
> >
> > deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main
> > deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main
> >
> > deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-backports main
> >
> >
> > David
>
> And in case you are less purist:
>
> deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib non-free
>
> deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free
>
> deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
>
> deb http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main contrib non-free
>
> deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ wheezy-backports iceweasel-release
>
> Though in both cases Brian's choice of mirror was better.
>
> Lisi
>
>

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#163006

FromJose Martinez <jomartinez812@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-14 01:10 +0100
Message-ID<qQDEd-7hT-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#163004

On 01/13/2016 05:38 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 January 2016 23:22:30 David Christensen wrote:
>> On 01/13/2016 10:31 AM, Amr Saber wrote:
>>> Hi there,
>>> While I was configuring some thing in the sources.list file as apt-get
>>> couldn't get any package I wanted or asked for (I double checked the
>>> spelling for each package) and it just said package not found ...
>>
>> You can search for packages here:
>>
>>       http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
>>
>>> any way, The problem is that the sources.list file was accidentally
>>> deleted
>>
>> It's useful to make copies of original configuration files before
>> editing them:
>>
>>       # cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list-orig
>>
>>       # vi /etc/apt/sources.list
>>
>>
>> Better yet is putting them into a version control system.
>>
>>   > and I can't find any version of it online and ofcourse the apt-get is
>>   > no longer working at all
>>
>> Somebody already posted a Jessie file.  Here's my Wheezy file:
>>
>> $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
>> #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.8.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 xfce-CD
>> Binary-1 20150110-14:41]/ wheezy main
>>
>> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main
>> deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main
>>
>> deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main
>> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main
>>
>> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main
>> deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main
>>
>> deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-backports main
>>
>>
>> David
>
> And in case you are less purist:
>
> deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib non-free
>
> deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free
>
> deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
>
> deb http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main contrib non-free
>
> deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ wheezy-backports iceweasel-release
>

Lisi, where can you get the authentication signature for the the 
mozilla.debian.net repository??

> Though in both cases Brian's choice of mirror was better.
>
> Lisi
>

-- 
Que te vaya bien
JM

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#163008

FromJochen Spieker <ml@well-adjusted.de>
Date2016-01-14 01:20 +0100
Message-ID<qQDNU-7lu-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#163006

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Jose Martinez:
> 
> Lisi, where can you get the authentication signature for the the
> mozilla.debian.net repository??

I am not Lisi, but have you considered just going straight to
http://mozilla.debian.net/? :)


J.
-- 
When you put a gun to my head you aren't fooling anyone.
[Agree]   [Disagree]
                 <http://archive.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html>

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#163009

FromLisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-14 02:10 +0100
Message-ID<qQEAi-7UG-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#163008
On Thursday 14 January 2016 00:10:17 Jochen Spieker wrote:
> Jose Martinez:
> > Lisi, where can you get the authentication signature for the the
> > mozilla.debian.net repository??
>
> I am not Lisi, but have you considered just going straight to
> http://mozilla.debian.net/? :)

You beat me to it, Jochen!!

Lisi

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#163010

FromJose Martinez <jomartinez812@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-14 02:40 +0100
Message-ID<qQF3j-88a-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#163008

On 01/13/2016 06:10 PM, Jochen Spieker wrote:
> Jose Martinez:
>>
>> Lisi, where can you get the authentication signature for the the
>> mozilla.debian.net repository??
>
> I am not Lisi, but have you considered just going straight to
> http://mozilla.debian.net/? :)
>
>
> J.
>
Hmmm...What a novel idea!!

-- 
Que te vaya bien
JM

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#163049

FromAdam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net>
Date2016-01-14 19:50 +0100
Message-ID<qQV85-2CA-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#162996
On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 20:31:18 +0200
Amr Saber <amr.m.saber.mail@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi there,
> While I was configuring some thing in the sources.list file as apt-get
> couldn't get any package I wanted or asked for (I double checked the
> spelling for each package) and it just said package not found ...
> any way, The problem is that the sources.list file was accidentally
> deleted and I can't find any version of it online and ofcourse the
> apt-get is no longer working at all

Assuming you're running stable,

deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable main
deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable-updates main
deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable-proposed-updates main
deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable-backports main
deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main

is the complete setup. For testing, just remove backports and replace
'stable' with 'testing'.

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#163050

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2016-01-14 20:10 +0100
Message-ID<qQVrr-30k-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#163049
On Thu 14 Jan 2016 at 18:18:09 +0300, Adam Wilson wrote:

> On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 20:31:18 +0200
> Amr Saber <amr.m.saber.mail@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi there,
> > While I was configuring some thing in the sources.list file as apt-get
> > couldn't get any package I wanted or asked for (I double checked the
> > spelling for each package) and it just said package not found ...
> > any way, The problem is that the sources.list file was accidentally
> > deleted and I can't find any version of it online and ofcourse the
> > apt-get is no longer working at all
> 
> Assuming you're running stable,
> 
> deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable main
> deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable-updates main
> deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable-proposed-updates main
> deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable-backports main
> deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
> 
> is the complete setup. For testing, just remove backports and replace
> 'stable' with 'testing'.

http.debian.net/debian/

is exactly the same as

httpredir.debian.org/debian/

The .org indicates it is an official, supported mirror but it makes no
difference when updating and downloading. The former gets you to the
latter.

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#163089

FromAdam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net>
Date2016-01-15 10:00 +0100
Message-ID<qR8oG-3Fn-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#163050
On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 19:08:53 +0000
Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu 14 Jan 2016 at 18:18:09 +0300, Adam Wilson wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 20:31:18 +0200
> > Amr Saber <amr.m.saber.mail@gmail.com> wrote:
> >   
> > > Hi there,
> > > While I was configuring some thing in the sources.list file as
> > > apt-get couldn't get any package I wanted or asked for (I double
> > > checked the spelling for each package) and it just said package
> > > not found ... any way, The problem is that the sources.list file
> > > was accidentally deleted and I can't find any version of it
> > > online and ofcourse the apt-get is no longer working at all  
> > 
> > Assuming you're running stable,
> > 
> > deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable main
> > deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable-updates main
> > deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable-proposed-updates main
> > deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable-backports main
> > deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
> > 
> > is the complete setup. For testing, just remove backports and
> > replace 'stable' with 'testing'.  
> 
> http.debian.net/debian/
> 
> is exactly the same as
> 
> httpredir.debian.org/debian/
> 
> The .org indicates it is an official, supported mirror but it makes no
> difference when updating and downloading. The former gets you to the
> latter.
> 

I am aware of this. I used to use httpredir.debian.org in my
sources.list, but switched to http.debian.net because honestly it just
looks better.

Btw, what exactly is the purpose of '<release>-proposed-updates'? I
always enable it for completeness' sake, but is this good practice?

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#163120

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2016-01-15 20:40 +0100
Message-ID<qRio2-26L-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#163089
On Fri 15 Jan 2016 at 09:54:30 +0300, Adam Wilson wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 19:08:53 +0000
> Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > http.debian.net/debian/
> > 
> > is exactly the same as
> > 
> > httpredir.debian.org/debian/
> > 
> > The .org indicates it is an official, supported mirror but it makes no
> > difference when updating and downloading. The former gets you to the
> > latter.
> > 
> 
> I am aware of this. I used to use httpredir.debian.org in my
> sources.list, but switched to http.debian.net because honestly it just
> looks better.

Looks do not matter. Either works for now and, for most users, it saves
them agonising about which mirror to use.

> Btw, what exactly is the purpose of '<release>-proposed-updates'? I
> always enable it for completeness' sake, but is this good practice?

https://wiki.debian.org/StableProposedUpdates

I've never used it and have no plans to do so. 

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#163350

FromAdam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net>
Date2016-01-21 03:50 +0100
Message-ID<qTdtT-77d-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#163120
On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 19:34:31 +0000 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:

> On Fri 15 Jan 2016 at 09:54:30 +0300, Adam Wilson wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 19:08:53 +0000
> > Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
> > 
> > > http.debian.net/debian/
> > > 
> > > is exactly the same as
> > > 
> > > httpredir.debian.org/debian/
> > > 
> > > The .org indicates it is an official, supported mirror but it
> > > makes no difference when updating and downloading. The former
> > > gets you to the latter.
> > > 
> > 
> > I am aware of this. I used to use httpredir.debian.org in my
> > sources.list, but switched to http.debian.net because honestly it
> > just looks better.
> 
> Looks do not matter. Either works for now and, for most users, it
> saves them agonising about which mirror to use.

If looks don't matter, then why did you correct my recommendation of
http.debian.net? It points to the same thing anyway, and is easier to
type.

> > Btw, what exactly is the purpose of '<release>-proposed-updates'? I
> > always enable it for completeness' sake, but is this good practice?
> 
> https://wiki.debian.org/StableProposedUpdates
> 
> I've never used it and have no plans to do so. 

Very well then. I only use jessie and jessie-updates at the moment.

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#163367

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2016-01-21 12:00 +0100
Message-ID<qTl87-45V-33@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#163350
On Wed 20 Jan 2016 at 17:56:53 +0300, Adam Wilson wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 19:34:31 +0000 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri 15 Jan 2016 at 09:54:30 +0300, Adam Wilson wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 19:08:53 +0000
> > > Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > http.debian.net/debian/
> > > > 
> > > > is exactly the same as
> > > > 
> > > > httpredir.debian.org/debian/
> > > > 
> > > > The .org indicates it is an official, supported mirror but it
> > > > makes no difference when updating and downloading. The former
> > > > gets you to the latter.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I am aware of this. I used to use httpredir.debian.org in my
> > > sources.list, but switched to http.debian.net because honestly it
> > > just looks better.
> > 
> > Looks do not matter. Either works for now and, for most users, it
> > saves them agonising about which mirror to use.
> 
> If looks don't matter, then why did you correct my recommendation of
> http.debian.net? It points to the same thing anyway, and is easier to
> type.

Users will come across httpredir.debian.org in the documentation so it
was an attempt to head off any confusion which might have arisen in this
thread over the use of two different URIs for the same resource. I think
the redirector developer has committed to both working.

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#163119

FromChris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz>
Date2016-01-15 20:20 +0100
Message-ID<qRi4G-204-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#163049
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 06:18:09PM +0300, Adam Wilson wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 20:31:18 +0200
> Amr Saber <amr.m.saber.mail@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi there,
> > While I was configuring some thing in the sources.list file as apt-get
> > couldn't get any package I wanted or asked for (I double checked the
> > spelling for each package) and it just said package not found ...
> > any way, The problem is that the sources.list file was accidentally
> > deleted and I can't find any version of it online and ofcourse the
> > apt-get is no longer working at all
> 
> Assuming you're running stable,
> 
> deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable main
> deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable-updates main
> deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable-proposed-updates main
> deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable-backports main
> deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
> 
> is the complete setup. 

It's not complete, it's missing contrib and non-free.

-- 
"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
oppressing." --- Malcolm X

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#163349

FromAdam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net>
Date2016-01-21 03:50 +0100
Message-ID<qTdtT-77d-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#163119
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 08:17:42 +1300 Chris Bannister
<cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 06:18:09PM +0300, Adam Wilson wrote:
> > On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 20:31:18 +0200
> > Amr Saber <amr.m.saber.mail@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi there,
> > > While I was configuring some thing in the sources.list file as
> > > apt-get couldn't get any package I wanted or asked for (I double
> > > checked the spelling for each package) and it just said package
> > > not found ... any way, The problem is that the sources.list file
> > > was accidentally deleted and I can't find any version of it
> > > online and ofcourse the apt-get is no longer working at all
> > 
> > Assuming you're running stable,
> > 
> > deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable main
> > deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable-updates main
> > deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable-proposed-updates main
> > deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable-backports main
> > deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
> > 
> > is the complete setup. 
> 
> It's not complete, it's missing contrib and non-free.
> 

Correction: complete *official* setup anyway. Unless Debian has dropped
any pretence of contrib and non-free being unofficial.

I don't recommend non-free software to anyone as a matter of principle.

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#163362

FromChris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz>
Date2016-01-21 11:20 +0100
Message-ID<qTkvo-3Pq-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#163349
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 05:57:52PM +0300, Adam Wilson wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 08:17:42 +1300 Chris Bannister
> <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 06:18:09PM +0300, Adam Wilson wrote:
> > > On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 20:31:18 +0200
> > > Amr Saber <amr.m.saber.mail@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hi there,
> > > > While I was configuring some thing in the sources.list file as
> > > > apt-get couldn't get any package I wanted or asked for (I double
> > > > checked the spelling for each package) and it just said package
> > > > not found ... any way, The problem is that the sources.list file
> > > > was accidentally deleted and I can't find any version of it
> > > > online and ofcourse the apt-get is no longer working at all
> > > 
> > > Assuming you're running stable,
> > > 
> > > deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable main
> > > deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable-updates main
> > > deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable-proposed-updates main
> > > deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable-backports main
> > > deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
> > > 
> > > is the complete setup. 
> > 
> > It's not complete, it's missing contrib and non-free.
> 
> Correction: complete *official* setup anyway. Unless Debian has dropped
> any pretence of contrib and non-free being unofficial.

Whatever. To have a fully functioning system you need contrib and
non-free in your sources.list, sure, you could go out of your way and
buy hardware which doesn't need any firmware, but guess what, those
people don't tend to post to this list asking for help.

> I don't recommend non-free software to anyone as a matter of principle.

Sure, but when their computer stops working because of an update and the
installed firmware blob is no longer working, they'll complain to this
list --- and guess what the posted solution will be? 

I'm certain it will be "oh, you're missing contrib and non-free in your
sources.list"

It appears there was some talk about refining the sources.list, but it's
not so straight forward:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2016/01/msg00233.html

-- 
"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
oppressing." --- Malcolm X

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#163368

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2016-01-21 12:10 +0100
Message-ID<qTlhM-4qv-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#163362
On Thu 21 Jan 2016 at 23:10:51 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 05:57:52PM +0300, Adam Wilson wrote:
> > On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 08:17:42 +1300 Chris Bannister
> > <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 06:18:09PM +0300, Adam Wilson wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 20:31:18 +0200
> > > > Amr Saber <amr.m.saber.mail@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Hi there,
> > > > > While I was configuring some thing in the sources.list file as
> > > > > apt-get couldn't get any package I wanted or asked for (I double
> > > > > checked the spelling for each package) and it just said package
> > > > > not found ... any way, The problem is that the sources.list file
> > > > > was accidentally deleted and I can't find any version of it
> > > > > online and ofcourse the apt-get is no longer working at all
> > > > 
> > > > Assuming you're running stable,
> > > > 
> > > > deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable main
> > > > deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable-updates main
> > > > deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable-proposed-updates main
> > > > deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ stable-backports main
> > > > deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
> > > > 
> > > > is the complete setup. 
> > > 
> > > It's not complete, it's missing contrib and non-free.
> > 
> > Correction: complete *official* setup anyway. Unless Debian has dropped
> > any pretence of contrib and non-free being unofficial.
> 
> Whatever. To have a fully functioning system you need contrib and
> non-free in your sources.list, sure, you could go out of your way and
> buy hardware which doesn't need any firmware, but guess what, those
> people don't tend to post to this list asking for help.
> 
> > I don't recommend non-free software to anyone as a matter of principle.
> 
> Sure, but when their computer stops working because of an update and the
> installed firmware blob is no longer working, they'll complain to this
> list --- and guess what the posted solution will be? 
> 
> I'm certain it will be "oh, you're missing contrib and non-free in your
> sources.list"
> 
> It appears there was some talk about refining the sources.list, but it's
> not so straight forward:
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2016/01/msg00233.html

If non-free firmware is provided during the course of using the installer
the "official" sources.list includes non-free. 

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