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  Re: no response from listmaster Steve Kleene <skdeb@syrano.acb.uc.edu> - 2015-12-14 14:40 +0100
    Re: no response from listmaster Petter Adsen <petter@synth.no> - 2015-12-14 15:30 +0100
    Re: no response from listmaster Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-12-14 16:10 +0100
    Re: no response from listmaster John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2015-12-14 17:50 +0100

#161753 — Re: no response from listmaster

On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 16:07:40 +0800, Bret Busby <bret.busby@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 14/12/2015, Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > You have two major choices, neither one of which is what you
> > want to hear.
> >
> > 1. You can subscribe via some other address. GMail, Fastmail,
> > whatever. Let other people handle your mail for you, for money
> > or not.
>
> Why not simply take up that suggestion?
> ...
> So, to me, the simple solution, is to use something like a gmail
> account, for your mailing lists messages.

I have not ruled out that idea.  In theory, the most trivial solution was to
just reinstate my existing subscription, which had been working nicely for
nine years.  It has not been so easy after all.

What I like about my existing setup is that all of my mail gets deposited
locally on my machine.  I can read most (but no longer all) of the text with
a simple "mail" from the command line.  This is the easiest way to read and
archive my mails in the style I've developed and prefer.  If I could have
gmail forwarded to an account on my local machine, that would work well.  If
I'd have to always read it in a browser, I'd be less happy.  I won't take the
time to research alternatives like this unless I can't revive the system I
like.

> I am curious as to why you are apparently defying your employer, and
> running a particular mailserver using your employer's resources,
> against the instructions/wishes of your employer, and, why your
> employer lets you get away with so defying your employer.

I did in fact say that my employer "wishes I didn't run a mail server at
all".  That was really a guess; they have never said that to me.  What they
have done is ask me a couple of times to defend my practice.  I've done that,
and they have never asked me to stop the server.  I've run my own mail
service since I started here in 1985, originally with Bitnet and uucico.  My
employer does explicitly allow personal use of their mail resources as long
as the use is not burdensome or for personal profit.

> And, why can you not use a gmail account (or, a similar, free webmail
> account), for mailing list subscriptions, at least, in the interim?

I may look into that if my preferred solution fails.  I can also just read
the threads at the archives or gmane sites.

Thanks for your helpful suggestions and inquiries.

> Bret Busby
> Armadale
> West Australia

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#161756

On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 13:31:06 +0000 (UTC)
Steve Kleene <skdeb@syrano.acb.uc.edu> wrote:

> What I like about my existing setup is that all of my mail gets
> deposited locally on my machine.  I can read most (but no longer all)
> of the text with a simple "mail" from the command line.  This is the
> easiest way to read and archive my mails in the style I've developed
> and prefer.  If I could have gmail forwarded to an account on my
> local machine, that would work well.  If I'd have to always read it
> in a browser, I'd be less happy.  I won't take the time to research
> alternatives like this unless I can't revive the system I like.

You could use something like getmail (package getmail4):

Description-en: mail retriever with support for POP3, IMAP4 and SDPS
 getmail is intended as a simple replacement for fetchmail.
 It retrieves mail (either all messages, or only unread messages)
 from one or more POP3/IMAP4/SDPS servers for one or more email
 accounts, and reliably delivers into a qmail-style Maildir, mbox
 file or to a command (pipe delivery) like maildrop or procmail,
 specified on a per-account basis. getmail also has support for
 domain (multidrop) mailboxes.
 .
 Supported protocols:
 POP3, POP3-over-SSL, IMAP4, IMAP4-over-SSL, and SDPS mail.

Works very well for me, easy to set up. As long as your mail provider
offers one of the supported protocols (Gmail has both POP3 and IMAP) it
should do what you want.

Petter

-- 
"I'm ionized"
"Are you sure?"
"I'm positive."

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#161762

On Monday 14 December 2015 13:31:06 Steve Kleene wrote:
> If I could have
> gmail forwarded to an account on my local machine, that would work well.

You can.

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#settings/fwdandpop

That may not work, if you have to be logged in to get access.

Lisi

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#161768

Steve Kleene writes:
> What I like about my existing setup is that all of my mail gets
> deposited locally on my machine.  I can read most (but no longer all)
> of the text with a simple "mail" from the command line.  This is the
> easiest way to read and archive my mails in the style I've developed
> and prefer.  If I could have gmail forwarded to an account on my local
> machine, that would work well.

I do exactly that using Newsguy <http://newsguy.com>.  It's worked
perfectly for me for more than a decade.  Yes, it costs money (not
much).  That's an *advantage*.  It means that you are a customer with a
contract.  With Newsguy you can email customer service and get a
response from a human being within hours.  Try that with Gmail.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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