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| Started by | Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> |
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| First post | 2015-12-05 18:40 +0100 |
| Last post | 2015-12-06 21:10 +0100 |
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no mouse cursor unless manual X config 'Option "HWCursor" "off"' in Jessie Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2015-12-05 18:40 +0100
Re: no mouse cursor unless manual X config 'Option "HWCursor" "off"' in Jessie Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-12-05 22:00 +0100
Re: no mouse cursor unless manual X config 'Option "HWCursor" "off"' in Jessie Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2015-12-05 22:00 +0100
Re: no mouse cursor unless manual X config 'Option "HWCursor" "off"' in Jessie Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2015-12-06 00:00 +0100
Re: no mouse cursor unless manual X config 'Option "HWCursor" "off"' in Jessie Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-12-06 00:30 +0100
Re: no mouse cursor unless manual X config 'Option "HWCursor" "off"' in Jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-12-06 00:40 +0100
Re: no mouse cursor unless manual X config 'Option "HWCursor" "off"' in Jessie Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-12-06 01:00 +0100
Re: no mouse cursor unless manual X config 'Option "HWCursor" "off"' in Jessie [solved] Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2015-12-06 21:10 +0100
| From | Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2015-12-05 18:40 +0100 |
| Subject | no mouse cursor unless manual X config 'Option "HWCursor" "off"' in Jessie |
| Message-ID | <qCoYp-41p-15@gated-at.bofh.it> |
Fresh Jessie installation about a week ago, TDE added last night. Normally using startx rather than any DM, but DM when used, has no pointer either.. Mouse could be used to select and click, but no way to tell where pointer was until it hovered something that changes on hover. Same problem in IceWM. I have other machines that use this same Intel 945G/ICH7 chipset, so it's hard to imagine why this is needed here but not elsewhere, nor in openSUSE 13.1/KDE4 nor openSUSE Leap/IceWM nor Mageia 5/KDE4 on same machine. I've never before on any post-XFree86 installation needed to turn off HWCursor. Naturally as the problem is same in IceWM, this must be a Jessie problem, not a TDE or hardware problem. Any ideas on how to eliminate need for disabling HWCursor? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
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| From | Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-12-05 22:00 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: no mouse cursor unless manual X config 'Option "HWCursor" "off"' in Jessie |
| Message-ID | <qCs5X-5T1-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #161575 |
On Sat 05 Dec 2015 at 12:38:38 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > Fresh Jessie installation about a week ago, TDE added last night. Normally > using startx rather than any DM, but DM when used, has no pointer either.. > Mouse could be used to select and click, but no way to tell where pointer was > until it hovered something that changes on hover. Same problem in IceWM. I > have other machines that use this same Intel 945G/ICH7 chipset, so it's hard > to imagine why this is needed here but not elsewhere, nor in openSUSE > 13.1/KDE4 nor openSUSE Leap/IceWM nor Mageia 5/KDE4 on same machine. I've > never before on any post-XFree86 installation needed to turn off HWCursor. > Naturally as the problem is same in IceWM, this must be a Jessie problem, not > a TDE or hardware problem. Any ideas on how to eliminate need for disabling > HWCursor? Did the pointer work before you added TDE (whatever that is)?
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| From | Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> |
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| Date | 2015-12-05 22:00 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: no mouse cursor unless manual X config 'Option "HWCursor" "off"' in Jessie |
| Message-ID | <qCs5X-5T1-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #161580 |
On Saturday 05 December 2015 15:52:13 Brian wrote: > On Sat 05 Dec 2015 at 12:38:38 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > Fresh Jessie installation about a week ago, TDE added last night. > > Normally using startx rather than any DM, but DM when used, has no > > pointer either.. Mouse could be used to select and click, but no way > > to tell where pointer was until it hovered something that changes on > > hover. Same problem in IceWM. I have other machines that use this > > same Intel 945G/ICH7 chipset, so it's hard to imagine why this is > > needed here but not elsewhere, nor in openSUSE 13.1/KDE4 nor > > openSUSE Leap/IceWM nor Mageia 5/KDE4 on same machine. I've never > > before on any post-XFree86 installation needed to turn off HWCursor. > > Naturally as the problem is same in IceWM, this must be a Jessie > > problem, not a TDE or hardware problem. Any ideas on how to > > eliminate need for disabling HWCursor? > > Did the pointer work before you added TDE (whatever that is)? Its a fork of KDE-3.5, with a huge list of bugs fixed. Highly recommended by Grandpa Gene. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
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| From | Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2015-12-06 00:00 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: no mouse cursor unless manual X config 'Option "HWCursor" "off"' in Jessie |
| Message-ID | <qCtY6-740-15@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #161580 |
Brian composed on 2015-12-05 20:52 (UTC): > On Sat 05 Dec 2015 at 12:38:38 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: >> Fresh Jessie installation about a week ago, TDE added last night. Normally >> using startx rather than any DM, but DM when used, has no pointer either.. >> Mouse could be used to select and click, but no way to tell where pointer was >> until it hovered something that changes on hover. Same problem in IceWM. I >> have other machines that use this same Intel 945G/ICH7 chipset, so it's hard >> to imagine why this is needed here but not elsewhere, nor in openSUSE >> 13.1/KDE4 nor openSUSE Leap/IceWM nor Mageia 5/KDE4 on same machine. I've >> never before on any post-XFree86 installation needed to turn off HWCursor. >> Naturally as the problem is same in IceWM, this must be a Jessie problem, not >> a TDE or hardware problem. Any ideas on how to eliminate need for disabling >> HWCursor? > Did the pointer work before you added TDE I don't remember whether I tried IceWM before installing TDE. I rarely use anything other than [K,T]DE except to determine whether a problem belongs to Xorg or [K,T]DE. > (whatever that is)? It's what KDE could have been: https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Trinity_Desktop_Environment -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
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| From | Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-12-06 00:30 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: no mouse cursor unless manual X config 'Option "HWCursor" "off"' in Jessie |
| Message-ID | <qCur7-7uN-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #161586 |
On Sat 05 Dec 2015 at 17:56:14 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > Brian composed on 2015-12-05 20:52 (UTC): > > > On Sat 05 Dec 2015 at 12:38:38 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > >> Fresh Jessie installation about a week ago, TDE added last night. Normally > >> using startx rather than any DM, but DM when used, has no pointer either.. > >> Mouse could be used to select and click, but no way to tell where pointer was > >> until it hovered something that changes on hover. Same problem in IceWM. I > >> have other machines that use this same Intel 945G/ICH7 chipset, so it's hard > >> to imagine why this is needed here but not elsewhere, nor in openSUSE > >> 13.1/KDE4 nor openSUSE Leap/IceWM nor Mageia 5/KDE4 on same machine. I've > >> never before on any post-XFree86 installation needed to turn off HWCursor. > >> Naturally as the problem is same in IceWM, this must be a Jessie problem, not > >> a TDE or hardware problem. Any ideas on how to eliminate need for disabling > >> HWCursor? > > > Did the pointer work before you added TDE > > I don't remember whether I tried IceWM before installing TDE. I rarely use > anything other than [K,T]DE except to determine whether a problem belongs to > Xorg or [K,T]DE. You could start from scratch and refresh your memory. > > (whatever that is)? > > It's what KDE could have been: > https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Trinity_Desktop_Environment Ah; it's non-Debian. All the more reason to re-install Jessie and investigate.
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| From | Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-12-06 00:40 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: no mouse cursor unless manual X config 'Option "HWCursor" "off"' in Jessie |
| Message-ID | <qCuAO-7y8-15@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #161588 |
On Saturday 05 December 2015 23:25:20 Brian wrote: > On Sat 05 Dec 2015 at 17:56:14 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > Brian composed on 2015-12-05 20:52 (UTC): > > > On Sat 05 Dec 2015 at 12:38:38 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > >> Fresh Jessie installation about a week ago, TDE added last night. > > >> Normally using startx rather than any DM, but DM when used, has no > > >> pointer either.. Mouse could be used to select and click, but no way > > >> to tell where pointer was until it hovered something that changes on > > >> hover. Same problem in IceWM. I have other machines that use this same > > >> Intel 945G/ICH7 chipset, so it's hard to imagine why this is needed > > >> here but not elsewhere, nor in openSUSE 13.1/KDE4 nor openSUSE > > >> Leap/IceWM nor Mageia 5/KDE4 on same machine. I've never before on any > > >> post-XFree86 installation needed to turn off HWCursor. Naturally as > > >> the problem is same in IceWM, this must be a Jessie problem, not a TDE > > >> or hardware problem. Any ideas on how to eliminate need for disabling > > >> HWCursor? > > > > > > Did the pointer work before you added TDE > > > > I don't remember whether I tried IceWM before installing TDE. I rarely > > use anything other than [K,T]DE except to determine whether a problem > > belongs to Xorg or [K,T]DE. > > You could start from scratch and refresh your memory. > > > > (whatever that is)? > > > > It's what KDE could have been: > > https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Trinity_Desktop_Environment > > Ah; it's non-Debian. All the more reason to re-install Jessie and > investigate. We'd love to be Debian. We are too short of money (for lots of infrastructure) and developers quite to get there. Lisi
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| From | Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-12-06 01:00 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: no mouse cursor unless manual X config 'Option "HWCursor" "off"' in Jessie |
| Message-ID | <qCuUa-7EP-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #161590 |
On Sat 05 Dec 2015 at 23:38:32 +0000, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 05 December 2015 23:25:20 Brian wrote: > > On Sat 05 Dec 2015 at 17:56:14 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > > Brian composed on 2015-12-05 20:52 (UTC): > > > > On Sat 05 Dec 2015 at 12:38:38 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > > >> Fresh Jessie installation about a week ago, TDE added last night. > > > >> Normally using startx rather than any DM, but DM when used, has no > > > >> pointer either.. Mouse could be used to select and click, but no way > > > >> to tell where pointer was until it hovered something that changes on > > > >> hover. Same problem in IceWM. I have other machines that use this same > > > >> Intel 945G/ICH7 chipset, so it's hard to imagine why this is needed > > > >> here but not elsewhere, nor in openSUSE 13.1/KDE4 nor openSUSE > > > >> Leap/IceWM nor Mageia 5/KDE4 on same machine. I've never before on any > > > >> post-XFree86 installation needed to turn off HWCursor. Naturally as > > > >> the problem is same in IceWM, this must be a Jessie problem, not a TDE > > > >> or hardware problem. Any ideas on how to eliminate need for disabling > > > >> HWCursor? > > > > > > > > Did the pointer work before you added TDE > > > > > > I don't remember whether I tried IceWM before installing TDE. I rarely > > > use anything other than [K,T]DE except to determine whether a problem > > > belongs to Xorg or [K,T]DE. > > > > You could start from scratch and refresh your memory. > > > > > > (whatever that is)? > > > > > > It's what KDE could have been: > > > https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Trinity_Desktop_Environment > > > > Ah; it's non-Debian. All the more reason to re-install Jessie and > > investigate. > > We'd love to be Debian. We are too short of money (for lots of > infrastructure) and developers quite to get there. There is a RFP. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=742958 Not that is of any help to the OP.
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| From | Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2015-12-06 21:10 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: no mouse cursor unless manual X config 'Option "HWCursor" "off"' in Jessie [solved] |
| Message-ID | <qCNN8-38D-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #161588 |
Brian composed on 2015-12-05 23:25 (UTC):
> On Sat 05 Dec 2015 at 17:56:14 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
>> Brian composed on 2015-12-05 20:52 (UTC):
>> > On Sat 05 Dec 2015 at 12:38:38 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
>> >> Fresh Jessie installation about a week ago, TDE added last night. Normally
>> >> using startx rather than any DM, but DM when used, has no pointer either..
>> >> Mouse could be used to select and click, but no way to tell where pointer was
>> >> until it hovered something that changes on hover. Same problem in IceWM. I
>> >> have other machines that use this same Intel 945G/ICH7 chipset, so it's hard
>> >> to imagine why this is needed here but not elsewhere, nor in openSUSE
>> >> 13.1/KDE4 nor openSUSE Leap/IceWM nor Mageia 5/KDE4 on same machine. I've
>> >> never before on any post-XFree86 installation needed to turn off HWCursor.
>> >> Naturally as the problem is same in IceWM, this must be a Jessie problem, not
>> >> a TDE or hardware problem. Any ideas on how to eliminate need for disabling
>> >> HWCursor?
>> > Did the pointer work before you added TDE
>> I don't remember whether I tried IceWM before installing TDE. I rarely use
>> anything other than [K,T]DE except to determine whether a problem belongs to
>> Xorg or [K,T]DE.
> You could start from scratch and refresh your memory.
It was originally a minimal install to a systm with XGI video. Intel video
driver was not installed, so modesetting driver was used, otherwise working
well enough to cause me to neglect to inspect Xorg.0.log until after moving
the HD to a sibling machine to test. Using Intel driver the workaround is
unnecessary, thus no more installing is necessary. Reinstalling is for
Windows users anyway.
>> > (whatever that is)?
>> It's what KDE could have been:
>> https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Trinity_Desktop_Environment
> Ah; it's non-Debian. All the more reason to re-install Jessie and
> investigate.
TDE is no fly-by-night, available currently for these distros:
Debian (Stretch, Jessie, Wheezy, Squeeze, Lenny)
Ubuntu
Redhat/CentOS
Fedora
Mageia
Mandriva
OpenSUSE
PCLinuxOS
with at least one other nearly complete in the form of a live DVD.
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/How_to_Install_TDE
--
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
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