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| Started by | Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2015-09-08 20:40 +0200 |
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Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 20:40 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> - 2015-09-09 00:00 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 07:50 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 08:30 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> - 2015-09-09 10:50 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 12:10 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-09-09 15:20 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 15:30 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-09-09 16:00 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 17:10 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-09-09 20:00 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 17:10 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-09-09 18:30 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-09-09 19:40 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 01:00 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Charlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com> - 2015-09-09 16:40 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 12:10 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> - 2015-09-09 10:40 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 12:10 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> - 2015-09-09 21:40 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-10 00:50 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-09-10 14:40 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-11 00:00 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-11 00:30 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Charlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com> - 2015-09-11 03:30 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in Iceweasel does not work anymore in Jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-11 12:40 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in Iceweasel does not work anymore in Jessie Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-09-11 14:20 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in Iceweasel does not work anymore in Jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-11 15:50 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in Iceweasel does not work anymore in Jessie Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-09-11 17:20 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in Iceweasel does not work anymore in Jessie David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2015-09-11 18:20 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in Iceweasel does not work anymore in Jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-11 18:50 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in Iceweasel does not work anymore in Jessie The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2015-09-11 19:00 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in Iceweasel does not work anymore in Jessie Ralph Katz <ralph.katz@rcn.com> - 2015-09-11 20:00 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in Iceweasel does not work anymore in Jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 01:00 +0200
ERRATUM Re: adobe flash player in Iceweasel does not work anymore in Jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 01:10 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 08:40 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> - 2015-09-11 23:10 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 00:20 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> - 2015-09-11 23:40 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> - 2015-09-11 22:50 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 00:20 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> - 2015-09-12 01:10 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 01:20 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> - 2015-09-12 12:50 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Himanshu Shekhar <irm2015006@iiita.ac.in> - 2015-09-12 15:40 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 19:30 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Siard <shiems146@kpnplanet.nl> - 2015-09-12 21:30 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 19:30 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 12:30 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> - 2015-09-09 21:50 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 23:50 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> - 2015-09-11 23:20 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 22:30 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-09-13 00:10 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 03:10 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Himanshu Shekhar <irm2015006@iiita.ac.in> - 2015-09-13 06:50 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 12:20 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-09-13 17:20 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-09-13 17:50 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 18:10 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-09-13 19:40 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2015-09-13 18:30 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2015-09-13 19:10 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 23:50 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> - 2015-09-13 22:10 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 00:20 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Seeker <seeker5528@comcast.net> - 2015-09-14 08:30 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-10 00:50 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2015-09-10 11:40 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in Iceweasel does not work anymore in Jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-10 13:30 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> - 2015-09-11 23:30 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 22:00 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> - 2015-09-13 22:50 +0200
Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 00:00 +0200
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| From | Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-10 00:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q6WlI-8l1-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #157648 |
On Wednesday 09 September 2015 20:31:50 Paul van der Vlis wrote: > Op 09-09-15 om 12:04 schreef Lisi Reisz: > > On Wednesday 09 September 2015 09:34:11 Paul van der Vlis wrote: > >>> Neither of these works with British 4oD or Channel 5. > >> > >> I cannot recieve that here I expect, and I have no URL. So I cannot test > >> it, but I think you are wrong. > > > > How can you possibly have a valid opinion when you can't test it? > > It's my job for the last 15 years. Since you haven't tried to get Channel 4 at all, it hasn't been your job for even five minutes. > > It is you > > who are wrong. Everyone here, who can in theory get it, has problems on > > Linux, which the channel acknowledges. > > Ah, so it has nothing to do with the choice between flashplayer-mozilla > and flashplugin-nonfree? That was my opinion about. > > Yes, a channel can implement flash in such a bad way, that it's not > possible to look at it normally for Linux users. That is what I had consistently been saying. > > Yes, a channel can implement flash in such a bad way, that it's not > possible to look at it normally for Linux users. Yes, I know. If you look I specifically mentioned two specific channels. They are trying to stop people blocking adverts. The third channel paid for by advertisements is fine on Google Chrome. And if I can get my television to run catch-up on those two channels by running flashplayer-mozilla, however illogical that may seem to you, I shall do so, however experienced in other matters you may be and however much you may disapprove. I would willingly do something else, but the only other thing that has been suggested (elsewhere) is Pipelight, and that too has proved problematic. > > E.g. here: http://www.ookjij.nl/ > But this works: http://www.ookjij.nl/index_win.html > > > Even flashplayer-mozilla is still not working on my husband's desktop. > > flashplayer-mozilla will install the same flashplayer as > flashplugin-nonfree. But there is a big difference between the > flashplayer what't installed in Chromium. Chromium is better in flash. And won't play Channel 4. Nonetheless, flashplayer-mozilla works on my desktop and flashplugin-nonfree doesn't. FOR THIS SPECIFIC CHANNEL. > For security reasons I don't use flash anymore on my work-computer. > What I see there, is that really many sites use HTML5 when there is no > flash available. I think this is because of tablet-computers. On tablets > is no flash available. That is completely irrelevant to my presented problem. Lisi
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| From | Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-09-10 14:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q79iW-1uR-19@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #157655 |
On Wed 09 Sep 2015 at 23:41:45 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 09 September 2015 20:31:50 Paul van der Vlis wrote: > > > > flashplayer-mozilla will install the same flashplayer as > > flashplugin-nonfree. But there is a big difference between the > > flashplayer what't installed in Chromium. Chromium is better in flash. > > And won't play Channel 4. Are we sure, as Paul says, it is the same flashplayer? The plugin from Adobe, which is what flashplugin-nonfree installs: brian@desktop:~$ ls -l libflashplayer.so -rw-rw-r-- 1 brian brian 17459332 Aug 7 19:50 libflashplayer.so The plugin from flashplayer-mozilla: brian@desktop:~$ ls -l libflashplayer.so -rw-r--r-- 1 brian brian 17432460 Aug 11 18:14 libflashplayer.so The md5sums are different too. Now, why is that and does it matter? The respective packages are based on the same source. http://www.adobe.com/uk/software/flash/about/ identifies both plugins as the same version. I am not claiming the file size difference implies different behaviour. I would move the flashplayer-mozilla plugin in /usr/lib/mozilla out of the way and substitute the flashplugin-nonfree one. What does that get us for 4od and the iplayer? > Nonetheless, flashplayer-mozilla works on my desktop and flashplugin-nonfree > doesn't. FOR THIS SPECIFIC CHANNEL. Intriguing. Are the HAL packages installed?
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| From | Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-11 00:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q7i2R-5S9-17@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #157671 |
On Thursday 10 September 2015 13:37:03 Brian wrote:
> > Nonetheless, flashplayer-mozilla works on my desktop and
> > flashplugin-nonfree doesn't. FOR THIS SPECIFIC CHANNEL.
>
> Intriguing. Are the HAL packages installed?
All the ones you mention plus hal-trinity. But so has my husband's computer.
He has only the one libflashplayer.so, the mozilla one.
I, on the other hand, have three:
/home/lisi/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
/usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/libflashplayer.so
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
Plus two actually on my computer in some old files belonging to a client.
Reported in iceweasel thus:
<quote>
File: libflashplayer.so,libflashplayer.so,libflashplayer.so
Path: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so,/usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/libflashplayer.so,/home/lisi/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
Version: 11.2.202.350
State: Enabled (STATE_VULNERABLE_UPDATE_AVAILABLE)
Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202
</quote>
And then a table.
My husband has:
<quote>
File: libflashplayer.so
Path: /usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/libflashplayer.so
Version: 11.2.202.508
State: Enabled
Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202
</quote>
So it should be his that is working and mine that is not!
We both have Iceweasel 40.0.3-3~bpo70+1, though they manage to look very
different.
Earlier in this saga, Peter had both flashplugin-nonfree and
flashplayer-mozilla, but as it didn't work I aptitude purged both, then
installed flashplayer-mozilla.
The problem on my husband's computer is that it complains that adblocker
software is installed and working, so won't play. It isn't. I have allowed
pop-ups, allowed cookies, cleared the cache. I am stuck!
Lisi
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| From | Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-11 00:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q7ivU-6Gg-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #157708 |
On Thursday 10 September 2015 22:57:36 Lisi Reisz wrote: I have: > Path: > /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so,/usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/lib >flashplayer.so,/home/lisi/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so Version: > 11.2.202.350 My husband has: > Path: /usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/libflashplayer.so > Version: 11.2.202.508 So they are different versions. "All" I have to find out is how to get my husband the same version.... I'll look at that in the morning. But I feel that we are - I am - progressing! Lisi
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| From | Charlie Kravetz <cjk@teamcharliesangels.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-11 03:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q7lk6-2Q0-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #157710 |
On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 23:22:51 +0100 Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote: >On Thursday 10 September 2015 22:57:36 Lisi Reisz wrote: > >I have: >> Path: >> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so,/usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/lib >>flashplayer.so,/home/lisi/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so Version: >> 11.2.202.350 > >My husband has: >> Path: /usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/libflashplayer.so >> Version: 11.2.202.508 > >So they are different versions. "All" I have to find out is how to get my >husband the same version.... > >I'll look at that in the morning. > >But I feel that we are - I am - progressing! > >Lisi > > Why not just copy the file from his to yours. But first delete all those other ones, on your system. I put all my plugins in ~/.mozilla/plugins , and tell firefox where to find them in the ~/.bashrc file as MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH="/home/charlie/.mozilla/plugins" -- Charlie Kravetz Linux Registered User Number 425914 [http://linuxcounter.net/user/425914.html] Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com]
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| From | Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-11 12:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q7tUl-7o1-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #157712 |
On Friday 11 September 2015 01:38:55 Charlie Kravetz wrote: > On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 23:22:51 +0100 > > Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote: > >On Thursday 10 September 2015 22:57:36 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > >I have: > >> Path: > >> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so,/usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/ > >>lib flashplayer.so,/home/lisi/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so Version: > >> 11.2.202.350 > > > >My husband has: > >> Path: /usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/libflashplayer.so > >> Version: 11.2.202.508 > > > >So they are different versions. "All" I have to find out is how to get my > >husband the same version.... > > > >I'll look at that in the morning. > > > >But I feel that we are - I am - progressing! > > > >Lisi > > Why not just copy the file from his to yours. But first delete all > those other ones, on your system. I put all my plugins in > ~/.mozilla/plugins , and tell firefox where to find them in > the ~/.bashrc file as > MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH="/home/charlie/.mozilla/plugins" I deleted the libflashplayer.so already on my husband's computer, and copied the ones on my computer across, including creating directories where necessary. about:plugins in Iceweasel now displays exactly the same on the two computers. We have exactly the same version of Iceweasel: 40.0.3-3~bpo70+1. Channel 4 catchup programmes, which play on mine, will still not play on his. It still says that an ad blocker is turned on, and I must turn it off. :-( Something must be different, and I have just got to find out what. If/when I crack it, I shall obviously share it. Lisi
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| From | Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-09-11 14:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q7vt8-1gv-13@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #157730 |
On Fri 11 Sep 2015 at 11:36:25 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 11 September 2015 01:38:55 Charlie Kravetz wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 23:22:51 +0100 > > > > Why not just copy the file from his to yours. But first delete all > > those other ones, on your system. I put all my plugins in > > ~/.mozilla/plugins , and tell firefox where to find them in > > the ~/.bashrc file as > > MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH="/home/charlie/.mozilla/plugins" > > I deleted the libflashplayer.so already on my husband's computer, and copied > the ones on my computer across, including creating directories where > necessary. about:plugins in Iceweasel now displays exactly the same on the > two computers. We have exactly the same version of Iceweasel: > 40.0.3-3~bpo70+1. > > Channel 4 catchup programmes, which play on mine, will still not play on his. > It still says that an ad blocker is turned on, and I must turn it off. :-( > > Something must be different, and I have just got to find out what. If/when I > crack it, I shall obviously share it. You may or may not have seen this: http://www.channel4.com/4viewers/faq/name/i-am-being-warned-i-am-using-an-ad-blocker/id/503978858
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| From | Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-11 15:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q7wSe-3el-19@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #157733 |
On Friday 11 September 2015 13:10:50 Brian wrote: > On Fri 11 Sep 2015 at 11:36:25 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Friday 11 September 2015 01:38:55 Charlie Kravetz wrote: > > > On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 23:22:51 +0100 > > > > > > Why not just copy the file from his to yours. But first delete all > > > those other ones, on your system. I put all my plugins in > > > ~/.mozilla/plugins , and tell firefox where to find them in > > > the ~/.bashrc file as > > > MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH="/home/charlie/.mozilla/plugins" > > > > I deleted the libflashplayer.so already on my husband's computer, and > > copied the ones on my computer across, including creating directories > > where necessary. about:plugins in Iceweasel now displays exactly the > > same on the two computers. We have exactly the same version of > > Iceweasel: > > 40.0.3-3~bpo70+1. > > > > Channel 4 catchup programmes, which play on mine, will still not play on > > his. It still says that an ad blocker is turned on, and I must turn it > > off. :-( > > > > Something must be different, and I have just got to find out what. > > If/when I crack it, I shall obviously share it. > > You may or may not have seen this: > > > http://www.channel4.com/4viewers/faq/name/i-am-being-warned-i-am-using-an-a >d-blocker/id/503978858 Thanks, Brian. I have already allowed tracking, history, cookies and pop-ups. :-( Lisi
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| From | Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-09-11 17:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q7yhk-5qg-15@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #157737 |
On Fri 11 Sep 2015 at 14:40:03 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 11 September 2015 13:10:50 Brian wrote: > > > > You may or may not have seen this: > > > > http://www.channel4.com/4viewers/faq/name/i-am-being-warned-i-am-using-an-a > >d-blocker/id/503978858 > > Thanks, Brian. I have already allowed tracking, history, cookies and > pop-ups. :-( Isn't it more about plugins or even some standalone program you have running? A look at 'ps ax' is worth it. Running Iceweasel from a new, different account might narrow it down.
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| From | David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-09-11 18:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q7zdo-6M4-21@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #157742 |
Quoting Brian (ad44@cityscape.co.uk): > On Fri 11 Sep 2015 at 14:40:03 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Friday 11 September 2015 13:10:50 Brian wrote: > > > > > > You may or may not have seen this: > > > > > > http://www.channel4.com/4viewers/faq/name/i-am-being-warned-i-am-using-an-a > > >d-blocker/id/503978858 > > > > Thanks, Brian. I have already allowed tracking, history, cookies and > > pop-ups. :-( > > Isn't it more about plugins or even some standalone program you have > running? A look at 'ps ax' is worth it. Running Iceweasel from a new, > different account might narrow it down. I do that as a matter of course for security reasons. It does lead to one wrinkle, though. Pulse audio won't let both users play sound at the same time so one or other (flash on the browser, me running xmms under my own account) stalls. I don't know if this could be relevant to Lisi. I've yet to investigate the snags in running pulse audio at a system level rather than as a user. Cheers, David.
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| From | Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-11 18:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q7zGq-7k9-21@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #157746 |
On Friday 11 September 2015 17:16:24 David Wright wrote: > Quoting Brian (ad44@cityscape.co.uk): > > On Fri 11 Sep 2015 at 14:40:03 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Friday 11 September 2015 13:10:50 Brian wrote: > > > > You may or may not have seen this: > > > > > > > > http://www.channel4.com/4viewers/faq/name/i-am-being-warned-i-am-usin > > > >g-an-a d-blocker/id/503978858 > > > > > > Thanks, Brian. I have already allowed tracking, history, cookies and > > > pop-ups. :-( Ironically, on my computer, which is running Channel 4 fine, I have pop-ups blocked, tracking blocked, some history blocked, but I am allowing cookies. > > Isn't it more about plugins or even some standalone program you have > > running? A look at 'ps ax' is worth it. Running Iceweasel from a new, > > different account might narrow it down. > > I do that as a matter of course for security reasons. It does lead > to one wrinkle, though. Pulse audio won't let both users play sound > at the same time so one or other (flash on the browser, me running > xmms under my own account) stalls. I don't know if this could be > relevant to Lisi. > > I've yet to investigate the snags in running pulse audio at a system > level rather than as a user. It isn't sound I am having problems with at this moment, David. ;-) On the two boxen I am running the same version of Iceweasel, on the same version of the same desktop, on the same version of the same OS, and it is very different, with different settings available. I'll have try setting up a new user and see what transpires. Lisi
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| From | The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2015-09-11 19:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q7zQ6-7vz-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #157749 |
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On 2015-09-11 at 12:39, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On the two boxen I am running the same version of Iceweasel, on the > same version of the same desktop, on the same version of the same OS, > and it is very different, with different settings available. I'll > have try setting up a new user and see what transpires. Before a new user, I'd recommend trying just a new Firefox profile: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-and-remove-firefox-profiles You can use this to run multiple profiles for different purposes, and I _think_ that when combined with -no-remote, you can also use it to run multiple Firefox instances in parallel using different profiles. (I can't swear to that at the moment, though.) -- The Wanderer The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw
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| From | Ralph Katz <ralph.katz@rcn.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-11 20:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q7AMb-sV-33@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #157750 |
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On 09/11/2015 12:51 PM, The Wanderer wrote: > Before a new user, I'd recommend trying just a new Firefox profile: > > https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-and-remove-firefox-profiles > > You can use this to run multiple profiles for different purposes, and I > _think_ that when combined with -no-remote, you can also use it to run > multiple Firefox instances in parallel using different profiles. (I > can't swear to that at the moment, though.) FWIW, on jessie, I have 2 distinct instances of iceweasel that can play youtube videos concurrently (not that I'd want to do that). pulseaudio settings are default. > ~$ ps ax |grep iceweasel > 5304 ? Sl 250:05 iceweasel -new-instance -P default > 25779 pts/4 Sl 0:19 iceweasel -new-instance -P fb > 25867 pts/4 Rl 0:51 /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugin-container /usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/libflashplayer.so -greomni /usr/lib/iceweasel/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/iceweasel/browser/omni.ja -appdir /usr/lib/iceweasel/browser 25779 plugin > 25939 ? Sl 0:02 /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugin-container /usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/libflashplayer.so -greomni /usr/lib/iceweasel/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/iceweasel/browser/omni.ja -appdir /usr/lib/iceweasel/browser 5304 plugin > 25958 pts/4 S+ 0:00 grep iceweasel And yes, a fresh iceweasel profile will clear out any legacy settings that could be getting in your way. Good luck! Ralph
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| From | Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-12 01:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q7Fsu-7hE-13@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #157752 |
On Friday 11 September 2015 18:58:20 Ralph Katz wrote: > On 09/11/2015 12:51 PM, The Wanderer wrote: > > Before a new user, I'd recommend trying just a new Firefox profile: > > > > https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-and-remove-fi > >refox-profiles > > > > You can use this to run multiple profiles for different purposes, and I > > _think_ that when combined with -no-remote, you can also use it to run > > multiple Firefox instances in parallel using different profiles. (I > > can't swear to that at the moment, though.) > > FWIW, on jessie, I have 2 distinct instances of iceweasel that can play > youtube videos concurrently (not that I'd want to do that). > pulseaudio settings are default. > > > ~$ ps ax |grep iceweasel > > 5304 ? Sl 250:05 iceweasel -new-instance -P default > > 25779 pts/4 Sl 0:19 iceweasel -new-instance -P fb > > 25867 pts/4 Rl 0:51 /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugin-container > > /usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/libflashplayer.so -greomni > > /usr/lib/iceweasel/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/iceweasel/browser/omni.ja > > -appdir /usr/lib/iceweasel/browser 25779 plugin 25939 ? Sl > > 0:02 /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugin-container > > /usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/libflashplayer.so -greomni > > /usr/lib/iceweasel/omni.ja -appomni /usr/lib/iceweasel/browser/omni.ja > > -appdir /usr/lib/iceweasel/browser 5304 plugin 25958 pts/4 S+ 0:00 > > grep iceweasel > > And yes, a fresh iceweasel profile will clear out any legacy settings > that could be getting in your way. > > Good luck! > Ralph Thank you, Jimmy, Brian, The Wanderer and Ralph. These last pointers were the final answer. I have lift-off. Ad-blocker was running on my husband's computer, even though it hadn't been on mine, I had just been unable to find it. I still haven't been able to uninstall it, but I have successfully disabled it. I now have it running without a problem. So that is the two Wheezy computers successfully dealt with. All I have to do now is deal with the Jessie computer that is attached to the TV. Again, that you all very much. Lisi
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| From | Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-12 01:10 +0200 |
| Subject | ERRATUM Re: adobe flash player in Iceweasel does not work anymore in Jessie |
| Message-ID | <q7FCb-7II-47@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #157773 |
On Friday 11 September 2015 23:59:15 Lisi Reisz wrote: > Again, that you all very much. Again, thaNK you all very much. Lisi
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| From | Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-12 08:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q7MDE-YG-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #157712 |
On Friday 11 September 2015 01:38:55 Charlie Kravetz wrote: > On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 23:22:51 +0100 > > Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote: > >On Thursday 10 September 2015 22:57:36 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > >I have: > >> Path: > >> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so,/usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/ > >>lib flashplayer.so,/home/lisi/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so Version: > >> 11.2.202.350 > > > >My husband has: > >> Path: /usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/libflashplayer.so > >> Version: 11.2.202.508 > > > >So they are different versions. "All" I have to find out is how to get my > >husband the same version.... > > > >I'll look at that in the morning. > > > >But I feel that we are - I am - progressing! > > > >Lisi > > Why not just copy the file from his to yours. But first delete all > those other ones, on your system. I put all my plugins in > ~/.mozilla/plugins , and tell firefox where to find them in > the ~/.bashrc file as > MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH="/home/charlie/.mozilla/plugins" Charlie, I omitted to thank you. How remiss. Thank you for your help. Lisi
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| From | Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> |
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| Date | 2015-09-11 23:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q7DK1-4Wl-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #157708 |
Op 10-09-15 om 23:57 schreef Lisi Reisz: > On Thursday 10 September 2015 13:37:03 Brian wrote: >>> Nonetheless, flashplayer-mozilla works on my desktop and >>> flashplugin-nonfree doesn't. FOR THIS SPECIFIC CHANNEL. >> >> Intriguing. Are the HAL packages installed? > > All the ones you mention plus hal-trinity. But so has my husband's computer. > He has only the one libflashplayer.so, the mozilla one. > > I, on the other hand, have three: > /home/lisi/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so > /usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/libflashplayer.so > /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so > > Plus two actually on my computer in some old files belonging to a client. The correct place is: /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so It's important to remove the other ones. > Reported in iceweasel thus: > <quote> > File: libflashplayer.so,libflashplayer.so,libflashplayer.so > > Path: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so,/usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/libflashplayer.so,/home/lisi/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so > Version: 11.2.202.350 > State: Enabled (STATE_VULNERABLE_UPDATE_AVAILABLE) > Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202 > </quote> > And then a table. > > My husband has: > <quote> > File: libflashplayer.so > Path: /usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/libflashplayer.so > Version: 11.2.202.508 > State: Enabled > Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202 > </quote> Your husband has the correct version for Iceweasel. You are using an old version. But it's better to use Chromium, it has version 18.0.0.209. With regards, Paul van der Vlis. -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer Groningen https://www.vandervlis.nl/
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| From | Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-12 00:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q7EPM-6xj-21@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #157765 |
On Friday 11 September 2015 22:01:11 Paul van der Vlis wrote: > Op 10-09-15 om 23:57 schreef Lisi Reisz: > > On Thursday 10 September 2015 13:37:03 Brian wrote: > >>> Nonetheless, flashplayer-mozilla works on my desktop and > >>> flashplugin-nonfree doesn't. FOR THIS SPECIFIC CHANNEL. > >> > >> Intriguing. Are the HAL packages installed? > > > > All the ones you mention plus hal-trinity. But so has my husband's > > computer. He has only the one libflashplayer.so, the mozilla one. > > > > I, on the other hand, have three: > > /home/lisi/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so > > /usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/libflashplayer.so > > /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so > > > > Plus two actually on my computer in some old files belonging to a client. > > The correct place is: > /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so > It's important to remove the other ones. > > > Reported in iceweasel thus: > > <quote> > > File: libflashplayer.so,libflashplayer.so,libflashplayer.so > > > > Path: > > /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so,/usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/l > >ibflashplayer.so,/home/lisi/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so Version: > > 11.2.202.350 > > State: Enabled (STATE_VULNERABLE_UPDATE_AVAILABLE) > > Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202 > > </quote> > > And then a table. > > > > My husband has: > > <quote> > > File: libflashplayer.so > > Path: /usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/libflashplayer.so > > Version: 11.2.202.508 > > State: Enabled > > Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202 > > </quote> > > Your husband has the correct version for Iceweasel. You are using an old > version. > > But it's better to use Chromium, it has version 18.0.0.209. Paul, I am trying to do something specific that you are completely ignoring. I am certainly not going to touch anything at all on the computer that is working. And Chromium DOES NOR WORK WITH CHANNEL 4. Lisi
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| From | Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> |
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| Date | 2015-09-11 23:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q7Ed4-5uE-17@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #157671 |
Op 10-09-15 om 14:37 schreef Brian: > On Wed 09 Sep 2015 at 23:41:45 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> On Wednesday 09 September 2015 20:31:50 Paul van der Vlis wrote: >>> >>> flashplayer-mozilla will install the same flashplayer as >>> flashplugin-nonfree. But there is a big difference between the >>> flashplayer what't installed in Chromium. Chromium is better in flash. >> >> And won't play Channel 4. > > Are we sure, as Paul says, it is the same flashplayer? The plugin from > Adobe, which is what flashplugin-nonfree installs: > > brian@desktop:~$ ls -l libflashplayer.so > -rw-rw-r-- 1 brian brian 17459332 Aug 7 19:50 libflashplayer.so > > The plugin from flashplayer-mozilla: > > brian@desktop:~$ ls -l libflashplayer.so > -rw-r--r-- 1 brian brian 17432460 Aug 11 18:14 libflashplayer.so > > The md5sums are different too. Now, why is that and does it matter? > The respective packages are based on the same source. > > http://www.adobe.com/uk/software/flash/about/ > > identifies both plugins as the same version. This is an interesting question. I have no idea, I have never studied flashplayer-mozilla. Is there any documentation about it? With regards, Paul van der Vlis. -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer Groningen https://www.vandervlis.nl/
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| From | Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl> |
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| Date | 2015-09-11 22:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <q7DqF-4kk-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #157655 |
Op 10-09-15 om 00:41 schreef Lisi Reisz: > Since you haven't tried to get Channel 4 at all, it hasn't been your job for > even five minutes. Why don't you give an URL. How should I know which Channel 4? It's even unclear in which country you live. Normally you cannot watch TV in another country using the internet. <cut> >> For security reasons I don't use flash anymore on my work-computer. >> What I see there, is that really many sites use HTML5 when there is no >> flash available. I think this is because of tablet-computers. On tablets >> is no flash available. > > That is completely irrelevant to my presented problem. No. When a site works with HTML5, then you don't need flash. With regards, Paul van der Vlis. -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer Groningen https://www.vandervlis.nl/
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