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  readers running debian fxkl47BF@protonmail.com - 2025-07-03 01:50 +0200
    Re: readers running debian ghe2001 <ghe2001@protonmail.com> - 2025-07-03 02:50 +0200
    Re: readers running debian "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2025-07-03 05:30 +0200
      Re: readers running debian <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2025-07-03 06:40 +0200
        Re: readers running debian "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2025-07-03 09:10 +0200
          Re: readers running debian tomas@tuxteam.de - 2025-07-03 10:00 +0200
            Re: readers running debian fxkl47BF@protonmail.com - 2025-07-03 13:30 +0200
              Re: readers running debian didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2025-07-03 14:10 +0200
                Re: readers running debian didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2025-07-03 14:20 +0200
                Re: readers running debian Frank Weißer <linux@weisser-ol.de> - 2025-07-03 20:20 +0200
                  Re: readers running debian Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2025-07-03 22:10 +0200
                    Re: readers running debian fxkl47BF@protonmail.com - 2025-07-03 23:00 +0200
                Re: readers running debian "Russell S." <rsstinnett@pm.me> - 2025-07-06 00:40 +0200
          Re: readers running debian Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2025-07-03 11:10 +0200
            Re: readers running debian Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2025-07-03 11:40 +0200
      Re: readers running debian Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2025-07-03 09:00 +0200
    Re: readers running debian Alif Radhitya <alif@radhitya.org> - 2025-07-03 07:40 +0200
      Re: readers running debian <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2025-07-03 08:50 +0200
    Re: readers running debian Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> - 2025-07-03 09:10 +0200

#280536 — readers running debian

i'm looking for a reader for pdf's and other media
are there any running debian or other linux based distributions

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#280537

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On Wednesday, July 2nd, 2025 at 5:47 PM, fxkl47BF@protonmail.com <fxkl47BF@protonmail.com> wrote:

> i'm looking for a reader for pdf's and other media
> are there any running debian or other linux based distributions

Firefox, Protonmail, and the toys that come with debian's XFCE GUI install have been quite flexible and reliable on my boxes for several years.

--
Glenn English

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#280539

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On 03.07.2025 04:47, fxkl47BF@protonmail.com wrote:
> i'm looking for a reader for pdf's and other media
> are there any running debian or other linux based distributions
>
"okular", "evince", "viewnior" to name a few.
Okular has many dependencies on KDE, so if your system uses other 
Desktop Environment, Xfce for an example, it is better to go for Evince 
and Viewnior.

-- 

  With kindest regards, Alexander.

  Debian - The universal operating system
  https://www.debian.org

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#280540

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On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 08:25:27AM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
> On 03.07.2025 04:47, fxkl47BF@protonmail.com wrote:
> > i'm looking for a reader for pdf's and other media
> > are there any running debian or other linux based distributions
> > 
> "okular", "evince", "viewnior" to name a few.

And xpdf.

  apt search "pdf.*reader"

yields (among a few false positives) a few possible hits I never heard
of.

Cheers
-- 
t

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#280545

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On 03.07.2025 09:35, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 08:25:27AM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
>> On 03.07.2025 04:47,fxkl47BF@protonmail.com wrote:
>>> i'm looking for a reader for pdf's and other media
>>> are there any running debian or other linux based distributions
>>>
>> "okular", "evince", "viewnior" to name a few.
> And xpdf.
>
>    apt search "pdf.*reader"
>
> yields (among a few false positives) a few possible hits I never heard
> of.
>
> Cheers
I've re-read original poster's message and now I think we all 
mis-interpreted their request.
I think they asked for a suggestion about hardware, like a tablet 
computer, or a handheld book reader capable of viewing PDFs and other 
media formats, with Debian or another Linux distro under the hood.
Probably these devices originally will run on Android or on some 
proprietary OS with locked bootloader and encrypted firmware, so the end 
user couldn't fight planned obsolescence.
Speaking from my little experience, making custom firmware will be 
incredibly difficult, also according to: https://wiki.debian.org/Mobile

-- 

  With kindest regards, Alexander.

  Debian - The universal operating system
  https://www.debian.org

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#280546

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On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 12:08:27PM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:

[...]

> I've re-read original poster's message and now I think we all
> mis-interpreted their request.
> I think they asked for a suggestion about hardware, like a tablet computer,
> or a handheld book reader capable of viewing PDFs and other media formats,

Quite possible, yes.

Cheers
-- 
tomás

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#280550

On Thu, 3 Jul 2025, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 12:08:27PM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> I've re-read original poster's message and now I think we all
>> mis-interpreted their request.
>> I think they asked for a suggestion about hardware, like a tablet computer,
>> or a handheld book reader capable of viewing PDFs and other media formats,
>
> Quite possible, yes.

it sounded very clear when i said it in my head :)
is there no dedicated reader device that can run a linux distro

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#280551

Le 03/07/2025 à 13:25, fxkl47BF@protonmail.com a écrit :
[...]
> is there no dedicated reader device that can run a linux distro

Hello,

A minimal search on the web for "linux on <somedevice>" leads to:
- for Kindle devices:
https://github.com/schuhumi/alpine_kindle
- for Kobo devices
https://tuxphones.com/kobo-clara-e-book-ereader-linux-kernel-hack/

I am sure there are others, I just stop searching after these results

Buf if, by "dedicated", you mean an e-book reader device running a 
GNU/Linux distro out of the box, I am not aware of any.
If the specs are more brad you may consider an android smartphone/tablet 
is a device running a Linux distro, you just have to install Calibre 
reader app, for instance...

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#280552

Le 03/07/2025 à 14:04, didier gaumet a écrit :
[...]
> If the specs are more brad 
[...]

typo error, sorry: "broad"

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#280564

not to forget (most?) Pocketbook> 
https://pocketbook.de/e-reader?gad_campaignid=22496675669

  devices! I myself chose InkPad 3 and am fine with it. But: I didn't 
find out how to work with the running linux. I only use it reading 
books, pdf and so on.

didier gaumet:
> Le 03/07/2025 à 13:25, fxkl47BF@protonmail.com a écrit :
> [...]
>> is there no dedicated reader device that can run a linux distro
> 
> Hello,
> 
> A minimal search on the web for "linux on <somedevice>" leads to:
> - for Kindle devices:
> https://github.com/schuhumi/alpine_kindle
> - for Kobo devices
> https://tuxphones.com/kobo-clara-e-book-ereader-linux-kernel-hack/
> 
> I am sure there are others, I just stop searching after these results
> 
> Buf if, by "dedicated", you mean an e-book reader device running a GNU/ 
> Linux distro out of the box, I am not aware of any.
> If the specs are more brad you may consider an android smartphone/tablet 
> is a device running a Linux distro, you just have to install Calibre 
> reader app, for instance...
> 

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#280565

> not to forget (most?) Pocketbook>
> https://pocketbook.de/e-reader?gad_campaignid=22496675669
>
>  devices! I myself chose InkPad 3 and am fine with it. But: I didn't find
>  out how to work with the running linux. I only use it reading books, pdf
> and so on.

I can't find very definitive answer about the OS they're running.
The seem to be using a Linux kernel, just like all the Android devices,
but beyond that it's not clear what's running on it.  It doesn't seem
closer to Debian than your regular Android device.

I vaguely remember someone posting a hack to install something like
Debian on a "ReMarkable" tablet (a search for "installing debian on
a remarkable tablet" might get you somewhere), but IIRC it was very much
"proof of concept" rather than something usable.

Of course, you can also take a regular Android device and install
a normal GNU/Linux distro on it.  The success depends mostly on how
well that tablet's hardware is supported by the vanilla Linux kernel.

There are some tablets sold directly with some GNU/Linux support, but
they're rare.  I know of:

- [PineNote](https://pine64.org/devices/pinenote/).

- [Librem 11](https://puri.sm/products/librem-11/).
  It's closer to a laptop than to an e-book reader, tho.

- [Framework 12](https://frame.work/ca/en/laptop12).
  This one is a laptop, but can be used as a tablet.

Both come from companies whose ethics seem a lot better aligned with
Free Software than your regular tech company, so buying their products
encourages further development in a more friendly direction.


        Stefan

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#280566

On Thu, 3 Jul 2025, Stefan Monnier wrote:

>> not to forget (most?) Pocketbook>
>> https://pocketbook.de/e-reader?gad_campaignid=22496675669
>>
>>  devices! I myself chose InkPad 3 and am fine with it. But: I didn't find
>>  out how to work with the running linux. I only use it reading books, pdf
>> and so on.
>
> I can't find very definitive answer about the OS they're running.
> The seem to be using a Linux kernel, just like all the Android devices,
> but beyond that it's not clear what's running on it.  It doesn't seem
> closer to Debian than your regular Android device.
>
> I vaguely remember someone posting a hack to install something like
> Debian on a "ReMarkable" tablet (a search for "installing debian on
> a remarkable tablet" might get you somewhere), but IIRC it was very much
> "proof of concept" rather than something usable.
>
> Of course, you can also take a regular Android device and install
> a normal GNU/Linux distro on it.  The success depends mostly on how
> well that tablet's hardware is supported by the vanilla Linux kernel.
>
> There are some tablets sold directly with some GNU/Linux support, but
> they're rare.  I know of:
>
> - [PineNote](https://pine64.org/devices/pinenote/).
>
> - [Librem 11](https://puri.sm/products/librem-11/).
>  It's closer to a laptop than to an e-book reader, tho.
>
> - [Framework 12](https://frame.work/ca/en/laptop12).
>  This one is a laptop, but can be used as a tablet.
>
> Both come from companies whose ethics seem a lot better aligned with
> Free Software than your regular tech company, so buying their products
> encourages further development in a more friendly direction.


the pinenote looks interesting though a bit pricey
the docs say there is a debian firmware available

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#280579

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There is also the Pine Tab or the Pine Note (e-ink) from Pine64 if they're in
stock.  I don't know what distro they run though.  I think they are both just
tablets, but the Pine Note has an e-ink display if that's what you're looking
for.
-- 
this is my clever sig.

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#280548

On 3/7/25 15:08, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
> On 03.07.2025 09:35, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 08:25:27AM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
>>> On 03.07.2025 04:47,fxkl47BF@protonmail.com  wrote:
>>>> i'm looking for a reader for pdf's and other media
>>>> are there any running debian or other linux based distributions
>>>>
>>> "okular", "evince", "viewnior" to name a few.
>> And xpdf.
>>
>>    apt search "pdf.*reader"
>>
>> yields (among a few false positives) a few possible hits I never heard
>> of.
>>
>> Cheers
> I've re-read original poster's message and now I think we all 
> mis-interpreted their request.
> I think they asked for a suggestion about hardware, like a tablet 
> computer, or a handheld book reader capable of viewing PDFs and other 
> media formats, with Debian or another Linux distro under the hood.
> Probably these devices originally will run on Android or on some 
> proprietary OS with locked bootloader and encrypted firmware, so the end 
> user couldn't fight planned obsolescence.
> Speaking from my little experience, making custom firmware will be 
> incredibly difficult, also according to: https://wiki.debian.org/Mobile
> 
> -- 
> 
>   With kindest regards, Alexander.
> 
>   Debian - The universal operating system
>   https://www.debian.org
> 

Yes, I quite agree with the last post above; in reading the Subject 
field of the thread, and, the text cited above, from the original 
device, the original poster appears to be seeking something like a 
kindle device - note - device, not software application - that will run 
the Debian operating system -"readers running debian" - not "PDF viewers 
running on Debian".

And,
"
 >>>> i'm looking for a reader for pdf's and other media
 >>>> are there any running debian or other linux based distributions
"


"
"So once you do know what the question actually is,
  you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
   Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
   "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
   A Trilogy In Four Parts",
   written by Douglas Adams,
   published by Pan Books, 1992
"


..
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
..............

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#280549

On 3/7/25 17:10, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 3/7/25 15:08, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
>> On 03.07.2025 09:35, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 08:25:27AM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote:
>>>> On 03.07.2025 04:47,fxkl47BF@protonmail.com  wrote:
>>>>> i'm looking for a reader for pdf's and other media
>>>>> are there any running debian or other linux based distributions
>>>>>
>>>> "okular", "evince", "viewnior" to name a few.
>>> And xpdf.
>>>
>>>    apt search "pdf.*reader"
>>>
>>> yields (among a few false positives) a few possible hits I never heard
>>> of.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>> I've re-read original poster's message and now I think we all 
>> mis-interpreted their request.
>> I think they asked for a suggestion about hardware, like a tablet 
>> computer, or a handheld book reader capable of viewing PDFs and other 
>> media formats, with Debian or another Linux distro under the hood.
>> Probably these devices originally will run on Android or on some 
>> proprietary OS with locked bootloader and encrypted firmware, so the 
>> end user couldn't fight planned obsolescence.
>> Speaking from my little experience, making custom firmware will be 
>> incredibly difficult, also according to: https://wiki.debian.org/Mobile
>>
>> -- 
>>
>>   With kindest regards, Alexander.
>>
>>   Debian - The universal operating system
>>   https://www.debian.org
>>
> 
> Yes, I quite agree with the last post above; in reading the Subject 
> field of the thread, and, the text cited above, from the original 
> device, the original poster appears to be seeking something like a 
> kindle device - note - device, not software application - that will run 
> the Debian operating system -"readers running debian" - not "PDF viewers 
> running on Debian".
> 
> And,
> "
>  >>>> i'm looking for a reader for pdf's and other media
>  >>>> are there any running debian or other linux based distributions
> "
> 
> 
> "
> "So once you do know what the question actually is,
>   you'll know what the answer means."
> - Deep Thought,
>    Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
>    "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
>    A Trilogy In Four Parts",
>    written by Douglas Adams,
>    published by Pan Books, 1992
> "
> 


I believe that the problem is in the nature of ICT users' mailing lists 
- the need to balance tolerance of varying levels of competency in the 
English language, with often bad grammar, and thence, wrongly expressed 
descriptions ("I have Debian <version> running on <software application 
name>"), with the need for accuracy, including, especially, of problem 
descriptions.

Computers and software, including operating systems, are pedantic (other 
than AI, which produces too much garbage); humans are notsomuch, and, 
often lax in communication skills.

So, many misinterpretations and misconstructions occur, needing accuracy 
in communications, to try to minimise wrongful outcomes.

Otherwise, things can occur, like I observed, many years ago in a UNIX 
class, where a student entered the command
chmod .
.

The consequences  were not what was wanted.

..
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
..............

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#280543

Alexander V. Makartsev <avbetev@gmail.com> wrote:
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> 
> On 03.07.2025 04:47, fxkl47BF@protonmail.com wrote:
> > i'm looking for a reader for pdf's and other media
> > are there any running debian or other linux based distributions
> >
> "okular", "evince", "viewnior" to name a few.
> Okular has many dependencies on KDE, so if your system uses other 
> Desktop Environment, Xfce for an example, it is better to go for Evince 
> and Viewnior.
> 
On my Debian system I have evince and atril, atril is the default PDF
reader but occasionally I find that evince works better.

-- 
Chris Green
·

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#280541

If thou art interested in minimalism, then go with 'Zathura'.

On July 2, 2025 11:47:18 PM UTC, fxkl47BF@protonmail.com wrote:
>i'm looking for a reader for pdf's and other media
>are there any running debian or other linux based distributions
>

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#280542

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On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 05:29:56AM +0000, Alif Radhitya wrote:
> If thou art interested in minimalism, then go with 'Zathura'.

Hmmm.

  tomas@caliban:~$ apt show zathura xpdf
  Package: zathura
  [...]
  Installed-Size: 723 kB
  Provides: zathura-abi-5
  Depends: zathura-pdf-poppler, libc6 (>= 2.34), libcairo2 (>= 1.14.0), libgirara-gtk3-3 (>= 0.3.7), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.50), libgtk-3-0 (>= 3.22), libmagic1 (>= 5.12), libpango-1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0), libseccomp2 (>= 0.0.0~20120605), libsqlite3-0 (>= 3.6.23), libsynctex2 (>= 2022.20220321.62855)
  [...]
  
  Package: xpdf
  [...]
  Installed-Size: 372 kB
  Provides: pdf-viewer
  Depends: libc6 (>= 2.34), libgcc-s1 (>= 3.0), libpaper1, libpoppler126 (>= 22.12.0), libstdc++6 (>= 11), libx11-6, libxm4 (>= 2.3.4), libxt6
  [...]

Cheers
-- 
tomás

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#280544

On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 01:47:18AM CEST, fxkl47BF@protonmail.com said:
> i'm looking for a reader for pdf's and other media
> are there any running debian or other linux based distributions
> 

By "reader" do you mean a software running on a standard debian computer, or a hardware specialized for 
reading documents, that you'd like to be running a debian based system ?


-- 
Erwan David

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