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  laptop for debian 12 henrik@privatembox.com - 2025-01-02 00:40 +0100
    Re: laptop for debian 12 Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 01:00 +0100
    Re: laptop for debian 12 Eike Lantzsch ZP5CGE / KY4PZ <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2025-01-02 01:30 +0100
    Re: laptop for debian 12 Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2025-01-02 03:10 +0100
      Re: laptop for debian 12 henrik@privatembox.com - 2025-01-02 03:40 +0100
        Re: laptop for debian 12 Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2025-01-02 04:30 +0100
          Re: laptop for debian 12 "Rick Thomas" <rbthomas55@pobox.com> - 2025-01-02 05:20 +0100
        Re: laptop for debian 12 Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2025-01-02 07:00 +0100
        Re: laptop for debian 12 "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2025-01-02 21:20 +0100
        Re: laptop for debian 12 Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2025-01-04 19:10 +0100
      Re: laptop for debian 12 "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2025-01-02 21:20 +0100
    Re: laptop for debian 12 john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2025-01-02 07:30 +0100
      Re: laptop for debian 12 Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2025-01-02 13:00 +0100

#276259 — laptop for debian 12

I am considering to buy a new laptop for debian 12 installed.
Can you suggest one for that purpose?
Happy new year all debian members.

Thanks.

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#276261

On Wed, Jan 1, 2025 at 6:36 PM <henrik@privatembox.com> wrote:
>
> I am considering to buy a new laptop for debian 12 installed.
> Can you suggest one for that purpose?

Can you state the problem you are having selecting a laptop among the
near endless choices?

> Happy new year all debian members.

Jeff

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#276262

On Wednesday, 1 January 2025 20:36:15 GMT-3 henrik@privatembox.com
wrote:
> I am considering to buy a new laptop for debian 12 installed.
> Can you suggest one for that purpose?
> Happy new year all debian members.
>
> Thanks.

Hi Henrik,
depends where you are located. I have excellent experience with TUXEDO
hardware. Also the service is excellent and very customer friendly.
All the best

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Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ / ZP5CGE

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#276265

On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 00:36:15 +0100
henrik@privatembox.com wrote:

> I am considering to buy a new laptop for debian 12 installed.
> Can you suggest one for that purpose?
> Happy new year all debian members.

https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-t4-gnulinux-laptop


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#276269

On 02.01.2025 03:07, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 00:36:15 +0100
> henrik@privatembox.com wrote:
> 
>> I am considering to buy a new laptop for debian 12 installed.
>> Can you suggest one for that purpose?
>> Happy new year all debian members.
> 
> https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-t4-gnulinux-laptop

That looks interesting.
do you think the standard configure are right for now days?

     Memory: 8GB
     M.2 SSD Drive: 250GB NVME SSD
     Hard Drive: Select
     2nd SATA 2.5" or Optical Drive: Standard DVD Writer
     Partition Scheme: OS on NVME drive & separate /home partition on the 
largest available drive if 2+ drives
     Bluetooth: No Thanks
     AC Adapter: US, Mexico, & Canada - Plug Type NEMA 5-15
     Docking Station: Select
     Need an extra battery?: Select
     Computer Sleeves & Bags: Select
     Bluetooth Adapters & Stand Alone Speakers: Select
     USB Data Transfer Cable: Select
     USB Hub: Select
     VPN Service: Select
     Notebook Warranty: 1 Yr Ltd Hardware Warranty
     Optional USB-C AC Adapter: Select
     Printers & All-in-one Machines: Select
     Introductory Materials & More: Select
     Portable USB Flash & SSD Drives: Select
     Distribution to Install: Debian 12


	$799.00
Subtotal: $799.00

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#276274

>     Memory: 8GB

I live quite happily with 8GB of RAM in several of my machines, but
that's for machines which I've owned for more than 10 years already, so
I think it's OK for a new machine only if you can later bump it to 16GB,
otherwise the machine will probably be painful to use in 5-10 years.


        Stefan

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#276277

On Wed, Jan 1, 2025, at 7:21 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>>     Memory: 8GB
>
> I live quite happily with 8GB of RAM in several of my machines, but
> that's for machines which I've owned for more than 10 years already, so
> I think it's OK for a new machine only if you can later bump it to 16GB,
> otherwise the machine will probably be painful to use in 5-10 years.

And if you think you ever will want to use one or more virtual machines (e.g. you want a Windows VM for some reason) you will almost certainly want 32GiB or even 64GiB of RAM in the future.  You can, of course, plan to upgrade RAM when-and-if you need it.

The same goes for BlueTooth:  You may not need it now, and you can always add it later if you need to, but it's nice to have it when you need it rather than having to wait for delivery.

>         Stefan
Rick

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#276281

On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 03:35:53 +0100
henrik@privatembox.com wrote:

> > 
> > https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-t4-gnulinux-laptop  
> 
> That looks interesting.
> do you think the standard configure are right for now days?
> 
>      Memory: 8GB

I may have gone hog wild, but I blew it out to 64GB. Some of that is
used for video memory. The remainder is 62.5GB. Of which I am currently
using 6.02GB with Debian 12 and XFCE. My plan is that this one will
last me for a while.

It has two slots for memory. I don't know whether you can put one stick
in now and leave the other slot for later.

The pre-sales technical support was excellent; you might inquire.

>      M.2 SSD Drive: 250GB NVME SSD

Again, possibly overboard: I went with 1TB, of which I have about 400GB
not allocated.

>      Hard Drive: Select
>      2nd SATA 2.5" or Optical Drive: Standard DVD Writer
>      Partition Scheme: OS on NVME drive & separate /home partition on
> the largest available drive if 2+ drives

I did my own partition scheme.

>      Bluetooth: No Thanks

It actually does have a bluetooth adapter on it. It requires firmware,
so they don't mention it.

>      AC Adapter: US, Mexico, & Canada - Plug Type NEMA 5-15
>      Docking Station: Select
>      Need an extra battery?: Select
>      Computer Sleeves & Bags: Select
>      Bluetooth Adapters & Stand Alone Speakers: Select
>      USB Data Transfer Cable: Select
>      USB Hub: Select
>      VPN Service: Select
>      Notebook Warranty: 1 Yr Ltd Hardware Warranty
>      Optional USB-C AC Adapter: Select
>      Printers & All-in-one Machines: Select
>      Introductory Materials & More: Select
>      Portable USB Flash & SSD Drives: Select
>      Distribution to Install: Debian 12
> 
> 
> 	$799.00
> Subtotal: $799.00

Mine, of course, came to somewhat more than that.

https://linux-hardware.org/?probe=013002ebef

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#276304

On Wednesday 01 January 2025 09:35:53 pm henrik@privatembox.com wrote:
> On 02.01.2025 03:07, Charles Curley wrote:
> > On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 00:36:15 +0100
> > henrik@privatembox.com wrote:
> > 
> >> I am considering to buy a new laptop for debian 12 installed.
> >> Can you suggest one for that purpose?
> >> Happy new year all debian members.
> > 
> > https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-t4-gnulinux-laptop
> 
> That looks interesting.
> do you think the standard configure are right for now days?
> 
>      Memory: 8GB

I have 8GB in my older workstation here,  and found it limiting.  I guess it all depends on what you want to do with it.  I run a "system monitor" here that lets me see how much is being used,  currently about 2.5G,  but that will go up once I get done with my emails and start with the web browser.  The new machine has 32GB in it,  which should last me a while...

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ablest -- form of life in this section of space,  a critter that can
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#276348

>     M.2 SSD Drive: 250GB NVME SSD

One more thing to consider: if you look at the current price of SSDs,
you'll see that price per GB is significantly higher for drives <500GB.
The better "bang for buck" is between 500GB and 2TB nowadays.

[ This said, personally, I can't find much use for sizes between 250GB and
  2TB: I'm quite happy (with ample room to spare) with 250GB except on
  those machines where I store "large files" (music/video/photo/..) where
  I need at least 2TB, so 250GB might still be the better choice.  ]


        Stefan

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#276303

On Wednesday 01 January 2025 09:07:40 pm Charles Curley wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 00:36:15 +0100
> henrik@privatembox.com wrote:
> 
> > I am considering to buy a new laptop for debian 12 installed.
> > Can you suggest one for that purpose?
> > Happy new year all debian members.
> 
> https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-t4-gnulinux-laptop

Seconded.  I didn't get a laptop,  but that's where I got my new computer,  and I'm happy with the results,  and found them easy to deal with...

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ablest -- form of life in this section of space,  a critter that can
be killed but can't be tamed.  --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters"
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#276282

On 1/2/25 00:36, henrik@privatembox.com wrote:
> I am considering to buy a new laptop for debian 12 installed.
> Can you suggest one for that purpose?
>

No can do, why are you asking this question?

Lenovo laptops are not that bad and you can without to much issues
repare them yourself.

Note that Trixie is around the corner

--
John Doe

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#276286

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* On 2025 02 Jan 00:29 -0600, john doe wrote:
> On 1/2/25 00:36, henrik@privatembox.com wrote:
> > I am considering to buy a new laptop for debian 12 installed.
> > Can you suggest one for that purpose?
> > 
> 
> No can do, why are you asking this question?
> 
> Lenovo laptops are not that bad and you can without to much issues
> repare them yourself.

I replaced the display in my aging Thinkpad T410 last month.  It runs
Debian 12 with GNOME and Wayland very well so no need to throw it away.
Years back I upgraded it to 8 GB of RAM and an SSD.  Repair parts are
rather easily found for Lenovo laptops.

I've been using Debian on one Thinkpad model or another for over 25
years.

> Note that Trixie is around the corner

I also have an older Thinkpad X1 Carbon, Generation 3 that I'm running
Trixie on as well as Arch as the mood strikes.  "It just works" (TM).

- Nate

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