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First post2024-09-25 21:50 +0200
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  please help app missing ... memorysticky <memorysticky@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 21:50 +0200
    Re: please help app missing ... Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2024-09-25 22:00 +0200
      Re: please help app missing ... Xiyue Deng <manphiz@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 22:50 +0200
        Re: please help app missing ... George at Clug <Clug@goproject.info> - 2024-09-25 23:10 +0200
          Re: please help app missing ... Xiyue Deng <manphiz@gmail.com> - 2024-09-26 04:00 +0200
        Re: please help app missing ... Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2024-09-25 23:50 +0200
          Re: please help app missing ... Xiyue Deng <manphiz@gmail.com> - 2024-09-26 01:00 +0200
    Re: please help app missing ... Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2024-09-25 23:50 +0200
    Re: please help app missing ... Mindaugas <mindaugasceliesius@gmail.com> - 2024-09-26 14:10 +0200

#273280 — please help app missing ...

Frommemorysticky <memorysticky@gmail.com>
Date2024-09-25 21:50 +0200
Subjectplease help app missing ...
Message-ID<JqGbn-eNxH-3@gated-at.bofh.it>

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Hello, I recently did a wipe and reinstalled Debian 12.
One issue I'm having is, I can no longer install gimp, it seems to be
missing from the repos.
Only thing I can find in the repos is gimp-help etc.

Please reply back.
thanks

Sincerely,
nicky

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#273281

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2024-09-25 22:00 +0200
Message-ID<JqGl3-eNB3-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#273280
On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 19:26:07 +0000
memorysticky <memorysticky@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello, I recently did a wipe and reinstalled Debian 12.
> One issue I'm having is, I can no longer install gimp, it seems to be
> missing from the repos.
> Only thing I can find in the repos is gimp-help etc.
> 
> Please reply back.
> thanks

Exactly what did you do? I installed Debian 12 Xfce4 desktop version
six days ago, and Gimp was installed with it. I don't see any reports
about it in the last week.

-- 
Joe

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#273283

FromXiyue Deng <manphiz@gmail.com>
Date2024-09-25 22:50 +0200
Message-ID<JqH7r-eO6n-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#273281
Joe <joe@jretrading.com> writes:

> On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 19:26:07 +0000
> memorysticky <memorysticky@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello, I recently did a wipe and reinstalled Debian 12.
>> One issue I'm having is, I can no longer install gimp, it seems to be
>> missing from the repos.
>> Only thing I can find in the repos is gimp-help etc.
>> 
>> Please reply back.
>> thanks
>
> Exactly what did you do? I installed Debian 12 Xfce4 desktop version
> six days ago, and Gimp was installed with it. I don't see any reports
> about it in the last week.
>
> -- 
> Joe
>

Gimp was removed from testing on 2024-09-25[1] due to the ongoing
transition.  See [2] for more details.

I think you can enable sid (if only temporarily) and install it from
there.

[1] https://tracker.debian.org/news/1569365/gimp-removed-from-testing/
[2] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gimp

-- 
Xiyue Deng

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#273284

FromGeorge at Clug <Clug@goproject.info>
Date2024-09-25 23:10 +0200
Message-ID<JqHqN-eOsr-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
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Hi,


Does anyone know who/how/why Gimp was removed from testing?


I found the links below, but to me they don't explain any valid
reasons or how this decision was made (automated or by human) ?


So curious how such a well known package becomes removed. And wonder
how it will be available when Stable is released.



https://tracker.debian.org/news/1569365/gimp-removed-from-testing/


https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gimp-plugin-registry/news/
[2024-09-25] gimp-plugin-registry REMOVED from testing [1] (Debian
testing watch) 



https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gimp
    The VCS repository is not up to date [2], push the missing
commits. high   
   
 lintian reports 1 error and 15 warnings [3] high   
   
The package has not entered testing even though the delay is over
normal


https://udd.debian.org/lintian/?packages=gimp



		gimp [4]
 		2.10.38-2
 
 		error
 		 source-is-missing [5] 
 		[devel-docs/libgimp/html/libgimp-gimppaths.html] 








George.



On Thursday, 26-09-2024 at 06:41 Xiyue Deng wrote:


Joe  writes:

> On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 19:26:07 +0000
> memorysticky  wrote:
>
>> Hello, I recently did a wipe and reinstalled Debian 12.
>> One issue I'm having is, I can no longer install gimp, it seems to
be
>> missing from the repos.
>> Only thing I can find in the repos is gimp-help etc.
>> 
>> Please reply back.
>> thanks
>
> Exactly what did you do? I installed Debian 12 Xfce4 desktop version
> six days ago, and Gimp was installed with it. I don't see any
reports
> about it in the last week.
>
> -- 
> Joe
>

Gimp was removed from testing on 2024-09-25[1] due to the ongoing
transition.  See [2] for more details.

I think you can enable sid (if only temporarily) and install it from
there.

[1] https://tracker.debian.org/news/1569365/gimp-removed-from-testing/
[2] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gimp

-- 
Xiyue Deng



Links:
------
[1]
https://tracker.debian.org/news/1569233/gimp-plugin-registry-removed-from-testing/
[2] https://qa.debian.org/cgi-bin/vcswatch?package=gimp
[3] https://udd.debian.org/lintian/?packages=gimp
[4] https://tracker.debian.org/gimp
[5] https://udd.debian.org/lintian-tag/source-is-missing

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#273289

FromXiyue Deng <manphiz@gmail.com>
Date2024-09-26 04:00 +0200
Message-ID<JqLXr-eQXV-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#273284
George at Clug <Clug@goproject.info> writes:

> Hi,
>
>
> Does anyone know who/how/why Gimp was removed from testing?
>
>
> I found the links below, but to me they don't explain any valid
> reasons or how this decision was made (automated or by human) ?
>
>
> So curious how such a well known package becomes removed. And wonder
> how it will be available when Stable is released.
>

In my previous mail I missed the fact that there was a serious bug
against Gimp (https://bugs.debian.org/1078402) which caused it to be
removed from testing.  You can also see this from the "excuses" section
on its tracker page:

Issues preventing migration:
∙ ∙ Updating gimp would introduce bugs in testing: #1078402

I guess it takes some effort to backport the upstream fix because Gimp
has migrated to meson on HEAD but the 2.10.x branch is still using
autotools.

>
>
> https://tracker.debian.org/news/1569365/gimp-removed-from-testing/
>
>
> https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gimp-plugin-registry/news/
> [2024-09-25] gimp-plugin-registry REMOVED from testing [1] (Debian
> testing watch) 
>
>
>
> https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gimp
>     The VCS repository is not up to date [2], push the missing
> commits. high   
>    
>  lintian reports 1 error and 15 warnings [3] high   
>    
> The package has not entered testing even though the delay is over
> normal
>
>
> https://udd.debian.org/lintian/?packages=gimp
>
>
>
> 		gimp [4]
>  		2.10.38-2
>  
>  		error
>  		 source-is-missing [5] 
>  		[devel-docs/libgimp/html/libgimp-gimppaths.html] 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> George.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, 26-09-2024 at 06:41 Xiyue Deng wrote:
>
>
> Joe  writes:
>
>> On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 19:26:07 +0000
>> memorysticky  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, I recently did a wipe and reinstalled Debian 12.
>>> One issue I'm having is, I can no longer install gimp, it seems to
> be
>>> missing from the repos.
>>> Only thing I can find in the repos is gimp-help etc.
>>> 
>>> Please reply back.
>>> thanks
>>
>> Exactly what did you do? I installed Debian 12 Xfce4 desktop version
>> six days ago, and Gimp was installed with it. I don't see any
> reports
>> about it in the last week.
>>
>> -- 
>> Joe
>>
>
> Gimp was removed from testing on 2024-09-25[1] due to the ongoing
> transition.  See [2] for more details.
>
> I think you can enable sid (if only temporarily) and install it from
> there.
>
> [1] https://tracker.debian.org/news/1569365/gimp-removed-from-testing/
> [2] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gimp
>
> -- 
> Xiyue Deng
>
>
>
> Links:
> ------
> [1]
> https://tracker.debian.org/news/1569233/gimp-plugin-registry-removed-from-testing/
> [2] https://qa.debian.org/cgi-bin/vcswatch?package=gimp
> [3] https://udd.debian.org/lintian/?packages=gimp
> [4] https://tracker.debian.org/gimp
> [5] https://udd.debian.org/lintian-tag/source-is-missing

-- 
Xiyue Deng

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#273287

FromCharles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com>
Date2024-09-25 23:50 +0200
Message-ID<JqI3w-eOGC-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#273283
On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 13:41:52 -0700
Xiyue Deng <manphiz@gmail.com> wrote:

> Gimp was removed from testing on 2024-09-25[1] due to the ongoing
> transition.  See [2] for more details.

The original poster specified Debian 12, not testing. Wherefore the
following is dangerous advice.

> 
> I think you can enable sid (if only temporarily) and install it from
> there.
> 
> [1] https://tracker.debian.org/news/1569365/gimp-removed-from-testing/
> [2] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gimp



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#273288

FromXiyue Deng <manphiz@gmail.com>
Date2024-09-26 01:00 +0200
Message-ID<JqJ9g-ePkY-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#273287
Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> writes:

> On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 13:41:52 -0700
> Xiyue Deng <manphiz@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Gimp was removed from testing on 2024-09-25[1] due to the ongoing
>> transition.  See [2] for more details.
>
> The original poster specified Debian 12, not testing. Wherefore the
> following is dangerous advice.
>

Thanks for pointing this out!  Yes, one should definitely avoid making a
FrankenDebian.

OTOH, let's wait for OP to clarify what OP has installed in your other
mail.

>> 
>> I think you can enable sid (if only temporarily) and install it from
>> there.
>> 
>> [1] https://tracker.debian.org/news/1569365/gimp-removed-from-testing/
>> [2] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gimp
>
>
>
> -- 
> Does anybody read signatures any more?
>
> https://charlescurley.com
> https://charlescurley.com/blog/
>

-- 
Xiyue Deng

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#273286

FromCharles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com>
Date2024-09-25 23:50 +0200
Message-ID<JqI3v-eOGC-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#273280
On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 19:26:07 +0000
memorysticky <memorysticky@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello, I recently did a wipe and reinstalled Debian 12.
> One issue I'm having is, I can no longer install gimp, it seems to be
> missing from the repos.
> Only thing I can find in the repos is gimp-help etc.

Curiouser and curiouser.

root@issola:/# apt-cache search gimp | sort | grep -E '^gimp '
gimp - GNU Image Manipulation Program
root@issola:/#

So it's definitely there. Which leads me to wonder: have you done an
"apt update" lately?

I also wonder what your /etc/apt/sources.list looks like. Mine (beware
of wrapping):

root@issola:/# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
#deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 12.2.0 _Bookworm_ - Official amd64 NETINST with firmware 20231007-10:28]/ bookworm main non-free-firmware

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
# deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware

deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
# deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware

# bookworm-updates, to get updates before a point release is made;
# see https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_updates_and_backports
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
# deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware

# This system was installed using small removable media
# (e.g. netinst, live or single CD). The matching "deb cdrom"
# entries were disabled at the end of the installation process.
# For information about how to configure apt package sources,
# see the sources.list(5) manual.
root@issola:/# 


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#273296

FromMindaugas <mindaugasceliesius@gmail.com>
Date2024-09-26 14:10 +0200
Message-ID<JqVtL-eXzu-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#273280
Hello. You can always install gimp from flatpak. No need to play with 
sid repos...

On 9/25/24 22:26, memorysticky wrote:
> Hello, I recently did a wipe and reinstalled Debian 12.
> One issue I'm having is, I can no longer install gimp, it seems to be 
> missing from the repos.
> Only thing I can find in the repos is gimp-help etc.
>
> Please reply back.
> thanks
>
> Sincerely,
> nicky
>

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