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need jigdo help

Started bygene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
First post2024-09-21 12:50 +0200
Last post2024-09-23 02:20 +0200
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  need jigdo help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-09-21 12:50 +0200
    Re: need jigdo help "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2024-09-21 13:50 +0200
    Re: need jigdo help Tom Furie <tom@furie.org.uk> - 2024-09-21 15:40 +0200
    Re: need jigdo help "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2024-09-21 17:10 +0200
      Re: need jigdo help "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2024-09-21 17:20 +0200
      Re: need jigdo help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-09-21 19:40 +0200
        Re: need jigdo help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-09-21 21:10 +0200
          Re: need jigdo help "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2024-09-21 21:40 +0200
          Re: need jigdo help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-09-23 02:20 +0200

#273185 — need jigdo help

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2024-09-21 12:50 +0200
Subjectneed jigdo help
Message-ID<Jp5QB-dONZ-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
Hi all, attempting to obtain a netinstall for trixie
ls of working directory:
-rw-r--r-- 1 gene gene     46282 Sep 21 06:22 
debian-testing-amd64-netinst.jigdo
-rw-r--r-- 1 gene gene 149573718 Sep 21 06:23 
debian-testing-amd64-netinst.template

command issued and results after installing jigdo-file:(word wrapped by 
tbird)

gene@coyote:~/linuxcnc_trixie_install$ jigdo-file mi 
--template=debian-testing-amd64-netinst.template
Found 0 of the 1001 files required by the template
Will not create image or temporary file - try again with different input 
files

What am I doing wrong?

tnx.

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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#273186

From"Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net>
Date2024-09-21 13:50 +0200
Message-ID<Jp6MG-dPqs-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#273185
Hi,

I always used jigdo-lite (and described it at:
  https://wiki.debian.org/JigdoOnLive#Download_one_or_more_Jigdo_ISOs
)
jigdo-lite is the official advise by Debian:
  https://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#how


Gene Heskett wrote:
> gene@coyote:~/linuxcnc_trixie_install$ jigdo-file mi --template=debian-testing-amd64-netinst.template
> Found 0 of the 1001 files required by the template

jigdo-file seems to be for production of the image from .template
and local files:
  https://manpages.debian.org/bookworm/jigdo-file/jigdo-file.1.en.html
  "MAKE-IMAGE, MI
   Reads `.template' and FILES, creates image (or `imagename.tmp').
   Provides a rudimentary way of reassembling images - jigdo is usually
   better suited for this task. However, in contrast to jigdo, no
   `.jigdo' file is required."

Unless you have a local Debian package mirror reachable by your
filesystem, you will have to obtain the beef of the ISO image from the
internet.
A .jigdo file contains URLs like
  [Servers]
  Debian=http://us.cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/snapshot/Debian/
  Debian=http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20230611T102113Z/ --try-last
as package sources of last resort.
jigdo-lite will ask for the URL of your favorite Debian mirror server
as package source for first tries.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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#273193

FromTom Furie <tom@furie.org.uk>
Date2024-09-21 15:40 +0200
Message-ID<Jp8v8-dQCV-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#273185

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On Sat, Sep 21, 2024 at 06:49:25AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> Hi all, attempting to obtain a netinstall for trixie
> 
> gene@coyote:~/linuxcnc_trixie_install$ jigdo-file mi
> --template=debian-testing-amd64-netinst.template
> Found 0 of the 1001 files required by the template

To recrate an ISO from jigdo you probbly want to look at jigdo-lite, from
the same package. As far as I know, jigdo-file is for creating the jigdo
files.

Cheers,
Tom

-- 
  A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's written on. Include
  me out. -Samuel Goldwyn

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#273195

From"Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com>
Date2024-09-21 17:10 +0200
Message-ID<Jp9Ue-dRFC-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#273185
On Sat, Sep 21, 2024 at 06:49:25AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> Hi all, attempting to obtain a netinstall for trixie
> ls of working directory:
> -rw-r--r-- 1 gene gene     46282 Sep 21 06:22
> debian-testing-amd64-netinst.jigdo
> -rw-r--r-- 1 gene gene 149573718 Sep 21 06:23
> debian-testing-amd64-netinst.template
> 
> command issued and results after installing jigdo-file:(word wrapped by
> tbird)
> 

As others have said: you need to use jigdo-lite rather than jigdo-file.

Download the netinst<dot>template and netinst<dot>Jigdo files from 

https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-cd/

as below:

https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-cd/debian-12.7.0-amd64-netinst.jigdo

https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-cd/debian-12.7.0-amd64-netinst.template

Run jigdo-lite in a terminal as root

It will prompt you for the location of the jigdo file - probably something like /home/gene/Downloads/debian-12.7.0-amd64.jigdo

It should prompt you for the location of a Debian mirror - give it a URL for
your nearest Debian mirror or http://deb.debian.org/debian/

It will look in the directory you gave for the .jigdo file to find the 
.template and should not need to redownload this.

It should then "just work" - I've just been doing exactly this to check.

All the very best, as ever,

Andrew Cater
(amacater@debian.org)

> gene@coyote:~/linuxcnc_trixie_install$ jigdo-file mi
> --template=debian-testing-amd64-netinst.template
> Found 0 of the 1001 files required by the template
> Will not create image or temporary file - try again with different input
> files
> 
> What am I doing wrong?
> 
> tnx.
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
> -- 
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
>  - Louis D. Brandeis
>

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#273196

From"Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net>
Date2024-09-21 17:20 +0200
Message-ID<Jpa3T-dRJj-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#273195
Hi,

Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> Run jigdo-lite in a terminal as root

Why as root ?
I never had to be root when i used it.


(Actually Gene Heskett was not too wrong when using jigdo-file, because
jigdo-lite itself uses jigdo-file at multiple occasions.
  https://sources.debian.org/src/jigdo/0.8.2-1/scripts/jigdo-lite )


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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#273197

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2024-09-21 19:40 +0200
Message-ID<Jpcfn-dT2O-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#273195
On 9/21/24 11:05, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 21, 2024 at 06:49:25AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
>> Hi all, attempting to obtain a netinstall for trixie
>> ls of working directory:
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 gene gene     46282 Sep 21 06:22
>> debian-testing-amd64-netinst.jigdo
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 gene gene 149573718 Sep 21 06:23
>> debian-testing-amd64-netinst.template
>>
>> command issued and results after installing jigdo-file:(word wrapped by
>> tbird)
>>
> 
> As others have said: you need to use jigdo-lite rather than jigdo-file.
> 
> Download the netinst<dot>template and netinst<dot>Jigdo files from
> 
> https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-cd/
> 
> as below:
> 
> https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-cd/debian-12.7.0-amd64-netinst.jigdo
> 
> https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-cd/debian-12.7.0-amd64-netinst.template
> 
> Run jigdo-lite in a terminal as root
> 
> It will prompt you for the location of the jigdo file - probably something like /home/gene/Downloads/debian-12.7.0-amd64.jigdo
> 
> It should prompt you for the location of a Debian mirror - give it a URL for
> your nearest Debian mirror or http://deb.debian.org/debian/
> 
> It will look in the directory you gave for the .jigdo file to find the
> .template and should not need to redownload this.
> 
> It should then "just work" - I've just been doing exactly this to check.
> 
> All the very best, as ever,
> 
> Andrew Cater
> (amacater@debian.org)
> 
Thank you Andy, obviously jigdo-file was wrong command. already printed 
FFR. IMO the man pages suck, no obvious cross correlation to guide the 
user toward success.  Needs at least a see also section at the bottom.

>> gene@coyote:~/linuxcnc_trixie_install$ jigdo-file mi
>> --template=debian-testing-amd64-netinst.template
>> Found 0 of the 1001 files required by the template
>> Will not create image or temporary file - try again with different input
>> files
>>
>> What am I doing wrong?
>>
>> tnx.
>>
>> Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
>> -- 
>> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>>   soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
>> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
>> If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
>>   - Louis D. Brandeis
>>
> 
> .

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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#273198

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2024-09-21 21:10 +0200
Message-ID<JpdEu-dU1m-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#273197
On 9/21/24 13:34, gene heskett wrote:
> On 9/21/24 11:05, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>> On Sat, Sep 21, 2024 at 06:49:25AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
>>> Hi all, attempting to obtain a netinstall for trixie
>>> ls of working directory:
>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 gene gene     46282 Sep 21 06:22
>>> debian-testing-amd64-netinst.jigdo
>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 gene gene 149573718 Sep 21 06:23
>>> debian-testing-amd64-netinst.template
>>>
>>> command issued and results after installing jigdo-file:(word wrapped by
>>> tbird)
>>>
>>
>> As others have said: you need to use jigdo-lite rather than jigdo-file.
>>
>> Download the netinst<dot>template and netinst<dot>Jigdo files from
>>
>> https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-cd/
>>
>> as below:
>>
>> https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-cd/debian-12.7.0-amd64-netinst.jigdo
>>
>> https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-cd/debian-12.7.0-amd64-netinst.template
>>
>> Run jigdo-lite in a terminal as root
>>
>> It will prompt you for the location of the jigdo file - probably 
>> something like /home/gene/Downloads/debian-12.7.0-amd64.jigdo
>>
>> It should prompt you for the location of a Debian mirror - give it a 
>> URL for
>> your nearest Debian mirror or http://deb.debian.org/debian/
>>
>> It will look in the directory you gave for the .jigdo file to find the
>> .template and should not need to redownload this.
>>
>> It should then "just work" - I've just been doing exactly this to check.
>>
>> All the very best, as ever,
>>
>> Andrew Cater
>> (amacater@debian.org)
Well, since its looking like rain which we need badly, and I'm still 
barefoot but bandaged to the knees, I'm stuck playing. The linuxcnc 
people have a hybrid iso for 12.6, which should update to 12.7, so I've 
pulled it and burnt it to a dvd+rw.

But burning it, I spotted xfburn in the menu's, looks nice but when will 
it actually be able to burn an iso???

So I had to fall back to k3b which worked, once I had found the iso. The 
selection window is only 6 or so filenames tall, mouse wheel scrolls 50 
names at a time, making, when there are 1000+ entries in my home dir, 
very frustrating. The right hand scroll buttons only work when they want 
to, so it took me >15 minutes to find the file & get the write started.
k3b has existed in this condition of making it near impossible to find 
the iso to be burnt for what seems like a decade.  Ingo can't be 
bothered to fix a huge usability problem.

I have 100 count spindles of every type of cd/dvd ever made, but have 
not stored them in closed, dark spaces. Long term exposure to the room 
lights apparently erases the ID track. The only type surviving a decade 
and still working as advertised is some sony brand dvd+rw's.

So when does xfburn grow erase/write abilities?

> Thank you Andy, obviously jigdo-file was wrong command. already printed 
> FFR. IMO the man pages suck, no obvious cross correlation to guide the 
> user toward success.  Needs at least a see also section at the bottom.
> 
>>> gene@coyote:~/linuxcnc_trixie_install$ jigdo-file mi
>>> --template=debian-testing-amd64-netinst.template
>>> Found 0 of the 1001 files required by the template
>>> Will not create image or temporary file - try again with different input
>>> files
>>>
>>> What am I doing wrong?
>>>
>>> tnx.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
>>> -- 
>>> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>>>   soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
>>> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
>>> If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law 
>>> respectable.
>>>   - Louis D. Brandeis
>>>
>>
>> .
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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#273199

From"Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com>
Date2024-09-21 21:40 +0200
Message-ID<Jpe7v-dUao-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#273198
On Sat, Sep 21, 2024 at 03:02:36PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 9/21/24 13:34, gene heskett wrote:
> > On 9/21/24 11:05, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > > 
> > > All the very best, as ever,
> > > 
> > > Andrew Cater
> > > (amacater@debian.org)
> Well, since its looking like rain which we need badly, and I'm still
> barefoot but bandaged to the knees, I'm stuck playing. The linuxcnc people
> have a hybrid iso for 12.6, which should update to 12.7, so I've pulled it
> and burnt it to a dvd+rw.
> 
> So when does xfburn grow erase/write abilities?
> 

It may have them - I haven't used it.

I quite like the command line utility growisofs for an ISO image:

            growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=debian-12.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso

Again, this should "just work" and is essentially the Example from the 
man page.

xorriso should also work, of course, and Thomas can help on that one :)

At this point, I've long since given up on CD or DVD physical media except
as a very last resort.

As mentioned extensively on this list in the last ten days or so:

dd if=/home/Gene/debian-12.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdX obs=4M oflag=sync
 status=progress

where /dev/sdX is wherever the USB stick is recognised when you stick it in.
( mount  on its own will tell you what file systems are recognised).

If the USB stick automounts, unmount it before running the command above.

All the best, as ever,

Andy Cater
(amacater@debian.org)




> > Thank you Andy, obviously jigdo-file was wrong command. already printed
> > FFR. IMO the man pages suck, no obvious cross correlation to guide the
> > user toward success.  Needs at least a see also section at the bottom.
> > 
> > > > gene@coyote:~/linuxcnc_trixie_install$ jigdo-file mi
> > > > --template=debian-testing-amd64-netinst.template
> > > > Found 0 of the 1001 files required by the template
> > > > Will not create image or temporary file - try again with different input
> > > > files
> > > > 
> > > > What am I doing wrong?
> > > > 
> > > > tnx.
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
> > > > -- 
> > > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> > > >   soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> > > > If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law
> > > > respectable.
> > > >   - Louis D. Brandeis
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > .
> > 
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
> -- 
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
>  - Louis D. Brandeis
>

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#273218

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2024-09-23 02:20 +0200
Message-ID<JpEY1-eaz8-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#273198
On 9/22/24 04:42, mick.crane wrote:
> On 2024-09-21 20:02, gene heskett wrote:
> 
>> But burning it, I spotted xfburn in the menu's, looks nice but when
>> will it actually be able to burn an iso???
> 
> If remembering correctly from a while ago had to click in the boxes for 
> write speed and some other thing for xfburn to show its defaults, then 
> it worked.
> (bookworm)
> mick
> 
Whoever wrote the error msg should have pointed to that instead of 
claiming burning has not been implemented.

I'll have to give that a try, thanks mick.
> .

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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