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| Started by | Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> |
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| First post | 2024-08-19 13:20 +0200 |
| Last post | 2024-08-21 09:20 +0200 |
| Articles | 8 on this page of 48 — 20 participants |
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Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ] Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> - 2024-08-19 13:20 +0200
Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ] David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2024-08-19 14:10 +0200
Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ] Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> - 2024-08-19 15:50 +0200
Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ] Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2024-08-19 18:00 +0200
Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ] Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> - 2024-08-19 20:20 +0200
Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ] Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2024-08-19 22:00 +0200
Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ] Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> - 2024-08-20 10:50 +0200
Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ] "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2024-08-20 11:40 +0200
Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ] Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> - 2024-08-20 12:50 +0200
Trixie and i386 - was [Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ]] Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> - 2024-08-20 14:40 +0200
Re: Trixie and i386 - was [Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ]] Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2024-08-20 15:50 +0200
Future of i386 as installer "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2024-08-20 15:50 +0200
The lack of a future for 32-bit x86 installs (Was Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ]) Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2024-08-20 17:20 +0200
Re: The lack of a future for 32-bit x86 installs (Was Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ]) Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2024-08-20 18:10 +0200
Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ] Tom Dial <tddial@comcast.net> - 2024-08-20 00:50 +0200
Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ] David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-08-20 05:20 +0200
Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ] Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> - 2024-08-20 10:10 +0200
Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ] David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-08-20 06:30 +0200
Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ] Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> - 2024-08-20 10:20 +0200
UEFI multiboot (was: Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ]) Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-08-20 17:20 +0200
Re: UEFI multiboot (was: Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ]) Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> - 2024-08-20 17:30 +0200
Re: UEFI multiboot (was: Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ]) Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2024-08-20 18:00 +0200
Re: UEFI multiboot (was: Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ]) Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2024-08-20 18:30 +0200
Re: UEFI multiboot gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-08-20 22:20 +0200
Re: UEFI multiboot Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-08-21 06:00 +0200
Re: UEFI multiboot Felix Miata <mrmazda@stanis.net> - 2024-08-21 06:30 +0200
Re: UEFI multiboot Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-08-21 18:20 +0200
Re: UEFI multiboot Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2024-08-21 19:40 +0200
Re: UEFI multiboot Felix Miata <mrmazda@stanis.net> - 2024-08-22 00:30 +0200
Re: UEFI multiboot Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-08-22 05:20 +0200
Re: UEFI multiboot Felix Miata <mrmazda@stanis.net> - 2024-08-22 11:50 +0200
Re: UEFI multiboot Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-08-22 18:00 +0200
Re: UEFI multiboot Felix Miata <mrmazda@stanis.net> - 2024-08-22 22:50 +0200
[SUMMARY] Re: UEFI multiboot Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-08-23 05:10 +0200
Re: [SUMMARY] UEFI multiboot Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2024-08-23 06:50 +0200
Re: UEFI multiboot Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-08-30 18:10 +0200
Re: UEFI multiboot Felix Miata <mrmazda@stanis.net> - 2024-08-30 18:50 +0200
Re: UEFI multiboot Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-08-31 04:20 +0200
[SUMMARY] Re: UEFI multiboot Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-09-14 06:10 +0200
Re: [SUMMARY] UEFI multiboot Felix Miata <mrmazda@stanis.net> - 2024-09-14 06:40 +0200
Re: [SUMMARY] UEFI multiboot songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2024-09-14 19:40 +0200
Re: [SUMMARY] UEFI multiboot Felix Miata <mrmazda@stanis.net> - 2024-09-14 21:20 +0200
Re: [SUMMARY] UEFI multiboot "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2024-09-14 21:40 +0200
Re: [SUMMARY] UEFI multiboot Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2024-09-16 12:20 +0200
Re: [SUMMARY] UEFI multiboot songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2024-09-17 01:50 +0200
Re: UEFI multiboot Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2024-08-22 12:00 +0200
Re: UEFI multiboot Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2024-08-21 08:50 +0200
Re: UEFI multiboot Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2024-08-21 09:20 +0200
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| From | songbird <songbird@anthive.com> |
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| Date | 2024-09-14 19:40 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: [SUMMARY] UEFI multiboot |
| Message-ID | <JmEUx-cfo0-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #273073 |
Felix Miata wrote: > Max Nikulin composed on 2024-09-14 10:59 (UTC+0700): > >> So multiple loaders from the same vendor is tricky in the case of UEFI >> SecureBoot. Behavior of grub may vary across Linux distributions. > > Thus, consider to KISS. Pick one installation's bootloader to depend on. Install > no others. hmm, well i actually use Refind for my normal booting up and install GRUB as a backup. so far i've never needed the backup but i do test it out from time to time. songbird
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| From | Felix Miata <mrmazda@stanis.net> |
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| Date | 2024-09-14 21:20 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: [SUMMARY] UEFI multiboot |
| Message-ID | <JmGtj-cgpY-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #273082 |
songbird composed on 2024-09-14 13:07 (UTC-0400): > Felix Miata wrote: >> Max Nikulin composed on 2024-09-14 10:59 (UTC+0700): >>> So multiple loaders from the same vendor is tricky in the case of UEFI >>> SecureBoot. Behavior of grub may vary across Linux distributions. >> Thus, consider to KISS. Pick one installation's bootloader to depend on. Install >> no others. > hmm, well i actually use Refind for my normal booting up > and install GRUB as a backup. so far i've never needed the > backup but i do test it out from time to time. Which distros ship rEFInd? It's not among packages monitored by distrowatch. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata
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| From | "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2024-09-14 21:40 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: [SUMMARY] UEFI multiboot |
| Message-ID | <JmGMF-cgw5-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #273083 |
Hi, Felix Miata wrote: > Which distros ship rEFInd? It's not among packages monitored by distrowatch. It seems that Debian does since a while: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/refind The tracker page points by its "homepage" link to https://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/ which shows the name "rEFInd". Have a nice day :) Thomas
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| From | Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi> |
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| Date | 2024-09-16 12:20 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: [SUMMARY] UEFI multiboot |
| Message-ID | <JngZP-cFOW-13@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #273082 |
songbird <songbird@anthive.com> writes: > hmm, well i actually use Refind for my normal booting up > and install GRUB as a backup. so far i've never needed the > backup but i do test it out from time to time. Um, so how do you choose which boot manager you want to run? UEFI boot menu?
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| From | songbird <songbird@anthive.com> |
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| Date | 2024-09-17 01:50 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: [SUMMARY] UEFI multiboot |
| Message-ID | <JntDH-cNxI-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #273110 |
Anssi Saari wrote: > songbird <songbird@anthive.com> writes: > >> hmm, well i actually use Refind for my normal booting up >> and install GRUB as a backup. so far i've never needed the >> backup but i do test it out from time to time. > > Um, so how do you choose which boot manager you want to run? UEFI boot > menu? > efibootmgr lets you pick. songbird
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| From | Joe <joe@jretrading.com> |
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| Date | 2024-08-22 12:00 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: UEFI multiboot |
| Message-ID | <JecLL-6Lfd-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #272446 |
On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:17:58 +0700 Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> wrote: > > Actually I tried dpkg-reconfigure for grub and shim packages and your > message made me thinking that you may correct me and may provide > proper commands to configure *UEFI* boot menu. > > efibootmgr As I mentioned previously, not all UEFI implementations behave properly. Your firmware probably has a hotkey to run the UEFI boot selector after power on, but it may not have any editing facilities. From Windows it's much harder, and requires rebooting into Safe Mode. In Linux, efibootmgr can be run from chroot from e.g. a Debian installation medium in rescue mode. -- Joe
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| From | Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> |
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| Date | 2024-08-21 08:50 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: UEFI multiboot |
| Message-ID | <JdNkl-6voj-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #272381 |
Max Nikulin (12024-08-21): > Do you mean 3rd party bootloader (e.g. grub)? There is nothing “3rd party” about GRUB. > I was responding to "AIUI > UEFI/GPT were designed to support multi-boot". Yes, and so was I. If you want half a dozen different GRUBs configured for half a dozen installed distros, it is possible. Completely useless because: > Custom configuration of grub > (earlier lilo) was possible before UEFI and GPT. … and more convenient. But it is possible. > Erwan posted directory tree for debian+ubuntu ESP, but it is a case of > different vendors. Richard wants 2 variants of Debian (however UEFI may be > irrelevant to that machine). As I said, perfectly possible. > I was experimenting trying to get 2 entries > from the same vendor in the UEFI (firmware) boot menu and found it tricky > and inconvenient. “Tricky and inconvenient” ≠ “impossible” -- Nicolas George
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| From | Joe <joe@jretrading.com> |
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| Date | 2024-08-21 09:20 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: UEFI multiboot |
| Message-ID | <JdNNn-6vNt-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #272384 |
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 08:45:05 +0200 Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> wrote: > Max Nikulin (12024-08-21): > > Do you mean 3rd party bootloader (e.g. grub)? > > There is nothing “3rd party” about GRUB. > > > I was responding to > > "AIUI > > UEFI/GPT were designed to support multi-boot". > > Yes, and so was I. If you want half a dozen different GRUBs configured > for half a dozen installed distros, it is possible. Completely useless > because: > > > Custom > > configuration of grub > > (earlier lilo) was possible before UEFI and GPT. > > … and more convenient. But it is possible. > > > Erwan posted directory tree for debian+ubuntu ESP, but it is a case > > of different vendors. Richard wants 2 variants of Debian (however > > UEFI may be irrelevant to that machine). > > As I said, perfectly possible. > > > I was experimenting trying to get 2 > > entries > > from the same vendor in the UEFI (firmware) boot menu and found it > > tricky and inconvenient. > > “Tricky and inconvenient” ≠ “impossible” > No all UEFI firmware is equal. I have an Acer netbook which does not honour DefaultBoot. When cold booted, it always boots to the Windows drive and resets that as the default boot. Fortunately, it can be overridden by a USB stick. It does honour NextBoot, so I have a script which sets NextBoot to grub on each Linux boot, and I carry a Debian rescue USB for the odd occasion when I have to use Windows. -- Joe
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