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  Re: do we have KDE expertise among us? Franco Martelli <martellif67@gmail.com> - 2024-08-23 17:40 +0200
    Re: do we have KDE expertise among us? George at Clug <Clug@goproject.info> - 2024-08-24 01:40 +0200

#272490 — Re: do we have KDE expertise among us?

Hi,

I'm a Debian KDE end-user from years, but in your post there are too 
many topics! Try to write an email for each of these.

On 22/08/24 at 19:20, DdB wrote:
> Beloved debian users,
> 
>   After years of using GNOME (even back in my Ubuntu-days), i got fed up
> with the ever changing behavior, which came on top of "development
> politics". And since i was/am still on buster, i decided to move forward
> to bookworm-KDE. But i am old and slow. It really took me a month to get
> a sort of minimal version up and running. I call this step:
> proof-of-concept. Now comes the harder part: to really take control of
> this desktop, not like a developer, but as a user. (I am currently
> evaluating to make use of ansible and redo the whole setup, but in a
> reproducible way.)
> 
>   Several issues are bugging me:
> 1. I can't get Window rules to work, neither for wayland nor for x11, i
> seem to be doing those wrong.
Do you mean that you have trouble using tools like xdotool or xprop?

> 2. I would really like to have a clickable menu only with my own
> commands/scripts in it, preferably in one single file, not spread out
> over many. Is such a thing available?
The only tool I know to rearrange KDE's menu is "kmenuedit"

> 3. Some applications are not listed by wmctrl -l as if they were not
> managed by the window manager, therefore i cannot move them around in my
> scripts (and windows rules ... i told ya)
Here wmctrl seems works fine in Xorg do you use Wayland?

> 4. True story: after just one day of living in the new environment, it
> crashed hard, all the open applications were gone. Could be a strange
> are incident, in buster, i had such a thing happen to me only about 4
> times per year!
Me too had instability issue, I solved that changing the default setup, 
It may depend on driver, acceleration, compositor…

> 
> Apart from the huge UI change, i also changed the root filesystem (it is
> zfs now, i used to have my data in it before, but this time, it is
> more). To achieve this, i went with zbm (zfsbootmanager) instead of
> grub. tbh: currently, i still use both, switching at least twice per day.
> 
> And i got my VPN client working in KDE, only the iptable rules to
> protect me from acidental leaks (kill switch) need to be reinstalled
> after every boot. How to make them permanent the right way?
> 
> That's it for today, any comment/hint/suggestion warmly welcome, DdB
> 
Too many topics

Cheers
-- 
Franco Martelli

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> On 22/08/24 at 19:20, DdB wrote:
> > Beloved debian users,
> > 
> >   After years of using GNOME (even back in my Ubuntu-days), i got fed up
> > with the ever changing behavior, which came on top of "development
> > politics". And since i was/am still on buster, i decided to move forward
> > to bookworm-KDE. But i am old and slow. It really took me a month to get
> > a sort of minimal version up and running. I call this step:
> > proof-of-concept. Now comes the harder part: to really take control of
> > this desktop, not like a developer, but as a user. (I am currently
> > evaluating to make use of ansible and redo the whole setup, but in a
> > reproducible way.)
> > And i got my VPN client working in KDE, only the iptable rules to
> > protect me from acidental leaks (kill switch) need to be reinstalled
> > after every boot. How to make them permanent the right way?


DdB,

I have little technical knowledge of Linux, compared to the things you indicated that you do. 

I use KDE but I do not modify it beyond using the UI's own methods for menus, etc. I also use XFCE where to make changes to the menus I install and use menulibre. 

In general, I use the base installed packages from the Debian repositories, and I do not alter the environment or its file systems.  I guess a bit boring for many people in this email list, however it provides me with a stable and working environment. Hence I cannot offer suggests for many of the things you mentioned. However I do use iptables and now nftables (thanks to help provided from people in this Debian User list).

Maybe the answer to your question "How to make them permanent the right way?" would be by installing and using "iptables-persistent". I first set up my working rules, then once they are correct, I install iptables-persistent and save my rules. The below Debian web site offers another way besides using iptables-persistent, but I have not used this method.

# apt install iptables-persistent

https://wiki.debian.org/iptables
Another way is to use the package iptables-persistent. Rules can be stored something like this:

  iptables-save > /etc/iptables/rules.v4
  ip6tables-save > /etc/iptables/rules.v6

https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-save-iptables-firewall-rules-permanently-on-linux/

George.

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