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  How can I test the graphics card? Serkan Kurt <sserkk@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 12:10 +0100
    Re: How can I test the graphics card? George at Clug <Clug@goproject.info> - 2024-12-31 13:50 +0100
      Re: How can I test the graphics card? Serkan Kurt <sserkk@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 19:30 +0100
        Re: How can I test the graphics card? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-12-31 19:50 +0100
          Re: How can I test the graphics card? Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> - 2024-12-31 20:10 +0100
        Re: How can I test the graphics card? Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2024-12-31 20:00 +0100
          Re: How can I test the graphics card? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 03:30 +0100
    Re: How can I test the graphics card? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 03:50 +0100
      Re: How can I test the graphics card? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 04:10 +0100

#276217 — How can I test the graphics card?

Hi!
How can I test memory of the graphics card?
How can I test other features of the graphics card?
Is there free software for this purpose?

The menu texts in the "Blender" software are not readable. Sometimes
the system freezes while watching a video.

nouveau 0000:01:00.0: fifo: CACHE_ERROR - ch 5 [systemd-logind[502]]
subc 0 mthd 0060 data beef0201

nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc00f (-2)
nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc00f (-2)
nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Direct firmware load for nouveau/nv84_xuc00f
failed with error -2
 nouveau 0000:01:00.0: vp: unable to load firmware nouveau/nv84_xuc00f
nouveau 0000:01:00.0: vp: init failed, -2
nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc103 (-2)
nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc103 (-2)
nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Direct firmware load for nouveau/nv84_xuc103
failed with error -2
nouveau 0000:01:00.0: bsp: unable to load firmware nouveau/nv84_xuc103
nouveau 0000:01:00.0: bsp: init failed, -2

My graphics card is NVIDIA Corporation G86M [GeForce 8600M GS] (rev a1).
Debian 12 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Best regards...

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#276220

Serkan,

I am assuming that this Nvidia video card is in a laptop?

Is your GUI using Wayland?  If it is, for testing purposes, I recommend switching back to X11.

You may have a hardware fault?

Hoping that you do not have a hardware fault, I would recommend installing Nvidia proprietary drivers.

I would install and then run nvidia-detect and install the nvidia drivers it recommends.
# apt install nvidia-detect
# nvidia-detect
# apt install [package recommended by nvidia-detect]

If these drivers causes issues you should be able to remove the nvidia drivers by
# apt purge nvidia*

This Debian Wiki explains Nvidia proprietary driver installation better than I can:
https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers

For testing Nvidia drivers I like to use glmark2
# apt install glmark2

If your GUI is using Wayland, then also install glmark2-wayland 
# apt install glmark2 glmark2-wayland

$ glmark2
or 
$ glmark2-wayland      (for Wayland systems)

Hope this helps.

George.


On Tuesday, 31-12-2024 at 22:07 Serkan Kurt wrote:
> Hi!
> How can I test memory of the graphics card?
> How can I test other features of the graphics card?
> Is there free software for this purpose?
> 
> The menu texts in the "Blender" software are not readable. Sometimes
> the system freezes while watching a video.
> 
> nouveau 0000:01:00.0: fifo: CACHE_ERROR - ch 5 [systemd-logind[502]]
> subc 0 mthd 0060 data beef0201
> 
> nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc00f (-2)
> nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc00f (-2)
> nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Direct firmware load for nouveau/nv84_xuc00f
> failed with error -2
>  nouveau 0000:01:00.0: vp: unable to load firmware nouveau/nv84_xuc00f
> nouveau 0000:01:00.0: vp: init failed, -2
> nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc103 (-2)
> nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc103 (-2)
> nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Direct firmware load for nouveau/nv84_xuc103
> failed with error -2
> nouveau 0000:01:00.0: bsp: unable to load firmware nouveau/nv84_xuc103
> nouveau 0000:01:00.0: bsp: init failed, -2
> 
> My graphics card is NVIDIA Corporation G86M [GeForce 8600M GS] (rev a1).
> Debian 12 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> 
> Best regards...
> 
> 

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#276231

Thank you for your suggestion. Unfortunately, I get a message like this.

"Your card is only supported by the 340 legacy drivers series, which
is only available up to buster."

George at Clug <Clug@goproject.info>, 31 Ara 2024 Sal, 20:27 tarihinde
şunu yazdı:
>
> Serkan,
>
> I am assuming that this Nvidia video card is in a laptop?
>
> Is your GUI using Wayland?  If it is, for testing purposes, I recommend switching back to X11.
>
> You may have a hardware fault?
>
> Hoping that you do not have a hardware fault, I would recommend installing Nvidia proprietary drivers.
>
> I would install and then run nvidia-detect and install the nvidia drivers it recommends.
> # apt install nvidia-detect
> # nvidia-detect
> # apt install [package recommended by nvidia-detect]
>
> If these drivers causes issues you should be able to remove the nvidia drivers by
> # apt purge nvidia*
>
> This Debian Wiki explains Nvidia proprietary driver installation better than I can:
> https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
>
> For testing Nvidia drivers I like to use glmark2
> # apt install glmark2
>
> If your GUI is using Wayland, then also install glmark2-wayland
> # apt install glmark2 glmark2-wayland
>
> $ glmark2
> or
> $ glmark2-wayland      (for Wayland systems)
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> George.
>
>
> On Tuesday, 31-12-2024 at 22:07 Serkan Kurt wrote:
> > Hi!
> > How can I test memory of the graphics card?
> > How can I test other features of the graphics card?
> > Is there free software for this purpose?
> >
> > The menu texts in the "Blender" software are not readable. Sometimes
> > the system freezes while watching a video.
> >
> > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: fifo: CACHE_ERROR - ch 5 [systemd-logind[502]]
> > subc 0 mthd 0060 data beef0201
> >
> > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc00f (-2)
> > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc00f (-2)
> > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Direct firmware load for nouveau/nv84_xuc00f
> > failed with error -2
> >  nouveau 0000:01:00.0: vp: unable to load firmware nouveau/nv84_xuc00f
> > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: vp: init failed, -2
> > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc103 (-2)
> > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc103 (-2)
> > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Direct firmware load for nouveau/nv84_xuc103
> > failed with error -2
> > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: bsp: unable to load firmware nouveau/nv84_xuc103
> > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: bsp: init failed, -2
> >
> > My graphics card is NVIDIA Corporation G86M [GeForce 8600M GS] (rev a1).
> > Debian 12 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> >
> > Best regards...
> >
> >
>

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#276233

> "Your card is only supported by the 340 legacy drivers series, which
> is only available up to buster."

For such old hardware you're probably better off *not* using the
proprietary driver.


        Stefan

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#276235

On 2024-12-31 13:49 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:

>> "Your card is only supported by the 340 legacy drivers series, which
>> is only available up to buster."
>
> For such old hardware you're probably better off *not* using the
> proprietary driver.

Or graphics intensive software like blender.  Their homepage mentions
that OpenGL 4.3 is required[1], but the GeForce 8600M GS only supports
OpenGL 3.3.

Cheers,
       Sven


1. https://www.blender.org/download/requirements/

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#276234

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Am Dienstag, 31. Dezember 2024, 19:27:58 CET schrieb Serkan Kurt:
Try this, as decribed here:
https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#sid-340[1]

WARNING! Pay attention, to install nothing else as described here and the needed dependencies 
called from this two packages. 

# apt update
# apt install nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver firmware-misc-nonfree

Do NOT update any other packages, even if aptitude is suggesting it. Most people in the past 
believe, they must upgrade other packages, too. 
This is NOT necessaryand break your system!

I suggest to install these two packages and theire dependencies, and remove the entres from 
sid and testing back to "stable".

You can then try to build the 340xx packages (I am using module-assistant for it). If it builds, 
you are lucky, then it will work, too.

Please note: If you got an Intel cpu with inbuild GPU, then you might need  "bumblebee" or 
"primusrun" for it, to activate the external NVidia GPU and deactivate the Intel GPU.

Note: In rare cases, you can also use the 390xx driver, but the 86M from Nvidia should work 
with the 340xx.

The problem is NOT the module itself, the problem is the compiling. If the compile works, the 
driver will work! 

The reason is, that since 340xx in debian, the compiler was changed somehow by the 
devolpers, so mostly the build fails. I suppose, they fixed it in sid.

Good luck!

Hans


> Thank you for your suggestion. Unfortunately, I get a message like this.
> 
> "Your card is only supported by the 340 legacy drivers series, which
> is only available up to buster."
> 
> George at Clug <Clug@goproject.info>, 31 Ara 2024 Sal, 20:27 tarihinde
> 
> şunu yazdı:
> > Serkan,
> > 
> > I am assuming that this Nvidia video card is in a laptop?
> > 
> > Is your GUI using Wayland?  If it is, for testing purposes, I recommend
> > switching back to X11.
> > 
> > You may have a hardware fault?
> > 
> > Hoping that you do not have a hardware fault, I would recommend installing
> > Nvidia proprietary drivers.
> > 
> > I would install and then run nvidia-detect and install the nvidia drivers
> > it recommends. # apt install nvidia-detect
> > # nvidia-detect
> > # apt install [package recommended by nvidia-detect]
> > 
> > If these drivers causes issues you should be able to remove the nvidia
> > drivers by # apt purge nvidia*
> > 
> > This Debian Wiki explains Nvidia proprietary driver installation better
> > than I can: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
> > 
> > For testing Nvidia drivers I like to use glmark2
> > # apt install glmark2
> > 
> > If your GUI is using Wayland, then also install glmark2-wayland
> > # apt install glmark2 glmark2-wayland
> > 
> > $ glmark2
> > or
> > $ glmark2-wayland      (for Wayland systems)
> > 
> > Hope this helps.
> > 
> > George.
> > 
> > On Tuesday, 31-12-2024 at 22:07 Serkan Kurt wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > > How can I test memory of the graphics card?
> > > How can I test other features of the graphics card?
> > > Is there free software for this purpose?
> > > 
> > > The menu texts in the "Blender" software are not readable. Sometimes
> > > the system freezes while watching a video.
> > > 
> > > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: fifo: CACHE_ERROR - ch 5 [systemd-logind[502]]
> > > subc 0 mthd 0060 data beef0201
> > > 
> > > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc00f (-2)
> > > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc00f (-2)
> > > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Direct firmware load for nouveau/nv84_xuc00f
> > > failed with error -2
> > > 
> > >  nouveau 0000:01:00.0: vp: unable to load firmware nouveau/nv84_xuc00f
> > > 
> > > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: vp: init failed, -2
> > > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc103 (-2)
> > > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc103 (-2)
> > > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Direct firmware load for nouveau/nv84_xuc103
> > > failed with error -2
> > > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: bsp: unable to load firmware nouveau/nv84_xuc103
> > > nouveau 0000:01:00.0: bsp: init failed, -2
> > > 
> > > My graphics card is NVIDIA Corporation G86M [GeForce 8600M GS] (rev a1).
> > > Debian 12 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> > > 
> > > Best regards...



--------
[1] https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#sid-340

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#276267

On 01/01/2025 01:50, Hans wrote:
> # apt install nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver firmware-misc-nonfree
> 
> Do NOT update any other packages, even if aptitude is suggesting it. 
> Most people in the past believe, they must upgrade other packages, too.
> 
> This is NOT necessary and break your system!

You have posted this recipe several times. Instead of adding WARNINGS, 
read how to use apt pinning and update your guide.

An earlier example:

Re: nvidia package 340xx. Mon, 26 Aug 2024 09:38:12 +0700.
<https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/vagpqk$3rc$1@ciao.gmane.io>

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#276271

On 31/12/2024 18:07, Serkan Kurt wrote:
> nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc00f (-2)
> nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc00f (-2)
> nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Direct firmware load for nouveau/nv84_xuc00f
> failed with error -2

Have you trying to find more info related to firmware files mentioned in 
error messages? They may be necessary, however in some cases drivers 
tries to load firmware that is available through public channels. In 
some cases firmware can not be included in .deb packages due to 
licensing issues, but when desperately needed, can be extracted from 
proprietary drivers downloaded from vendor sites.

My experience is that freezes due to graphics card drivers might happen 
for any vendor. Specifically to nvidia, several years ago I switched 
back and forth between nouveau and proprietary drivers, patching the 
latter for up to date kernels, due to some artefact in both cases.

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#276375

It seems the message, I am replying to, was rejected by the mailing list 
server, likely due to an attachment with a screenshot. That is why all 
quoted lines are preserved.

On 06/01/2025 00:53, Serkan Kurt wrote:
> Thank you Max. I managed to install the "nv84" firmware by adapting
> the instructions from
> "https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/VideoAcceleration.html". The
> graphical system has accelerated significantly.

Nice.

> Previous errors do not
> appear in dmesg. But when I run the "Blender" software, the text still
> does not appear and the dmesg output is as follows;

Instead of dmesg I recommend "journalctl" as root, perhaps with "-b" 
(and maybe more) option. Log entries from various applications may be 
helpful.

> [   58.669512] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: gr: DATA_ERROR 00000004 [INVALID_VALUE]
> [   58.669525] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: gr: 00100000 [] ch 4 [001f729000
> Xwayland[2304]] subc 4 class 502d mthd 0838 data 000121b0

Notice the warning concerning Blender requirements in
Sven Joachim. Tue, 31 Dec 2024 20:09:09 +0100.
<https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/87ikqzbrfu.fsf@turtle.gmx.de>

Lookup for these messages in the nouveau bug tracker and discussion 
groups. You may try kernel and graphics stack packages from the Debian 
backports repository. If issues have not fixed yet, alternatives may be:
- Buy another graphics card that is better supported by Linux drivers. 
(Sorry, I can not suggest anything specific.)
- If the developers do not mind to improve support of your device and 
your a ready to compile custom kernels, mesa, and some other packages 
then you may file a bug.

> [   58.669652] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: gr: TRAP_MP_EXEC - TP 0 MP 0:
> 00000010 [INVALID_OPCODE] at 06e6c8 warp 1, opcode feef4977 fddf3f37
> [   58.669664] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: gr: TRAP_MP_EXEC - TP 0 MP 1:
> 00000010 [INVALID_OPCODE] at 06e6c8 warp 0, opcode feef4977 fddf3f37
> [   58.669670] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: gr: 00200000 [] ch 4 [001f729000
> Xwayland[2304]] subc 3 class 8297 mthd 0d74 data 00000000
> 
> When I restarted Blender;
> 
> [  307.480197] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: fifo: CACHE_ERROR - ch 5
> [systemd-logind[502]] subc 0 mthd 0060 data beef0201
> [  348.340249] perf: interrupt took too long (3960 > 3956), lowering
> kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 50500
> [  723.319669] perf: interrupt took too long (4960 > 4950), lowering
> kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 40250
> [  891.057444] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: gr: DATA_ERROR 00000004 [INVALID_VALUE]
> [  891.057459] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: gr: 00100000 [] ch 6 [001f42f000
> Xwayland[2304]] subc 4 class 502d mthd 0838 data 000121b0
> [  911.824655] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: fifo: CACHE_ERROR - ch 5
> [systemd-logind[502]] subc 0 mthd 0060 data beef0201
> [ 1020.563973] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: fifo: CACHE_ERROR - ch 5
> [systemd-logind[502]] subc 0 mthd 0060 data beef0201
> [ 1020.568736] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: fifo: CACHE_ERROR - ch 5
> [systemd-logind[502]] subc 0 mthd 0060 data beef0201
> [ 1020.798138] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: fifo: CACHE_ERROR - ch 5
> [systemd-logind[502]] subc 0 mthd 0060 data beef0201
> 
> Note: Before installing the firmware, I installed the nvidia drivers
> from sid. But the graphical interface did not open and I had to
> reinstall it.
> 
> Do you have any other advice?
> 
> Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>, 2 Oca 2025 Per, 05:44 tarihinde şunu yazdı:
>>
>> On 31/12/2024 18:07, Serkan Kurt wrote:
>>> nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc00f (-2)
>>> nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nv84_xuc00f (-2)
>>> nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Direct firmware load for nouveau/nv84_xuc00f
>>> failed with error -2
>>
>> Have you trying to find more info related to firmware files mentioned in
>> error messages? They may be necessary, however in some cases drivers
>> tries to load firmware that is available through public channels. In
>> some cases firmware can not be included in .deb packages due to
>> licensing issues, but when desperately needed, can be extracted from
>> proprietary drivers downloaded from vendor sites.
>>
>> My experience is that freezes due to graphics card drivers might happen
>> for any vendor. Specifically to nvidia, several years ago I switched
>> back and forth between nouveau and proprietary drivers, patching the
>> latter for up to date kernels, due to some artefact in both cases.
>>

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