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libreoffice/openoffice system theme

Started bydavid thompson <crass@gmx.co.uk>
First post2024-12-13 13:30 +0100
Last post2024-12-19 12:50 +0100
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  libreoffice/openoffice system theme david thompson <crass@gmx.co.uk> - 2024-12-13 13:30 +0100
    Re: libreoffice/openoffice system theme Christian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de> - 2024-12-15 08:30 +0100
      Re: libreoffice/openoffice system theme david thompson <dmthompson@gmx.com> - 2024-12-15 13:40 +0100
        Re: libreoffice/openoffice system theme Christian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de> - 2024-12-15 14:10 +0100
          Re: libreoffice/openoffice system theme <dmthompson@gmx.com> - 2024-12-17 14:00 +0100
            Re: libreoffice/openoffice system theme Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2024-12-17 14:40 +0100
              Re: libreoffice/openoffice system theme <dmthompson@gmx.com> - 2024-12-18 12:40 +0100
                Re: libreoffice/openoffice system theme Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2024-12-18 13:20 +0100
                Re: libreoffice/openoffice system theme dmthompson@gmx.com - 2024-12-18 13:40 +0100
                  Re: libreoffice/openoffice system theme Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2024-12-18 14:40 +0100
                    Re: libreoffice/openoffice system theme Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2024-12-18 16:40 +0100
                  Re: libreoffice/openoffice system theme dmthompson@gmx.com - 2024-12-19 12:50 +0100

#275632 — libreoffice/openoffice system theme

Fromdavid thompson <crass@gmx.co.uk>
Date2024-12-13 13:30 +0100
Subjectlibreoffice/openoffice system theme
Message-ID<JTcXT-gCUj-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
Hi all,

I am having some trouble getting libreoffice or/and openoffice adopting the system theme - they wont do it.

I use a dark theme, due to my eyesight - it helps.

Things is that on Devuan libreoffice/openoffice naturally adopts the system theme - why is that?

This happens on LMDE as well.

Both Debian and LMDE are the bookworm version of debian.

Does someone know how to fix this - I asked on linuxquestions, but it seems no one knows.

All advice is much appreciated.

cheers

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#275725

FromChristian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de>
Date2024-12-15 08:30 +0100
Message-ID<JTReF-h9Et-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#275632

Am 13.12.24 um 13:02 schrieb david thompson:
> I am having some trouble getting libreoffice or/and openoffice adopting the system theme - they wont do it.

There are packages like for example libreoffice-plasma, libreoffice-kf5,
libreoffice-style-breeze you can use for integration in your desktop
environment. Which DE do you use?

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#275731

Fromdavid thompson <dmthompson@gmx.com>
Date2024-12-15 13:40 +0100
Message-ID<JTW4F-hcw8-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#275725
Hi

Thanks for the reply, and info.

Yeah, I forgot to include certain details.

I am using xfce4 desktop, have Adwaita-dark, and xfce-duskm as well as other themes installed.

Once again thanks.

BTW tried out openmandriva other night, opened libreoffice, using the dark theme and libreiffice took the dark theme naturally - scratches
head,

On Sun, 15 Dec 2024 08:23:44 +0100
Christian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de> wrote:

> Am 13.12.24 um 13:02 schrieb david thompson:
> > I am having some trouble getting libreoffice or/and openoffice
> > adopting the system theme - they wont do it.
>
> There are packages like for example libreoffice-plasma,
> libreoffice-kf5, libreoffice-style-breeze you can use for integration
> in your desktop environment. Which DE do you use?
>

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#275732

FromChristian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de>
Date2024-12-15 14:10 +0100
Message-ID<JTWxH-hcVg-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#275731

Am 15.12.24 um 13:37 schrieb david thompson:
> I am using xfce4 desktop, have Adwaita-dark, and xfce-duskm as well as other themes installed.

Please try libreoffice-gtk3

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#275819

From<dmthompson@gmx.com>
Date2024-12-17 14:00 +0100
Message-ID<JUFl8-dJu-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#275732
Hello,

Just followed your advice, but have to say that libreoffice on Debian
is not what I was expecting;  slow start-up, opens .odt documents with
wrong application (chart when it should be a word-processor), online
help about this issue is no help, cannot open word-processor directly
have to go through an interface.

Not your fault.

Have installed Abiword - instantly takes theme, no problem in
opening .odt docs - just have to find a way to have my adaptations set
as default.

Thanks for your help.

Cheers

On Sun, 15 Dec 2024 14:00:23 +0100
Christian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de> wrote:

> Am 15.12.24 um 13:37 schrieb david thompson:
> > I am using xfce4 desktop, have Adwaita-dark, and xfce-duskm as well
> > as other themes installed.
>
> Please try libreoffice-gtk3
>

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#275821

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2024-12-17 14:40 +0100
Message-ID<JUFXP-ebz-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#275819
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 12:54:49 +0000
<dmthompson@gmx.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Just followed your advice, but have to say that libreoffice on Debian
> is not what I was expecting;  slow start-up, opens .odt documents with
> wrong application (chart when it should be a word-processor), online
> help about this issue is no help, cannot open word-processor directly
> have to go through an interface.

Does your Main Menu > Office sub-menu not contain a LibreOffice Writer
entry, along with LibreOffice Calc and others? The exact items here
will depend on what was selected at installation.
> 
> Not your fault.
> 
> Have installed Abiword - instantly takes theme, no problem in
> opening .odt docs - just have to find a way to have my adaptations set
> as default.
> 

Right-click an .odt file, Open With.. > Set Default Application..

-- 
Joe

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#275870

From<dmthompson@gmx.com>
Date2024-12-18 12:40 +0100
Message-ID<JV0zg-tVB-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#275821
Hi all,

Thanks for the reply, and help.

I do not know the answer to the question, as yet.  All i know is that
unlike what I am used to, some kind of user interface comes up, where
one part is a large box that incite dropping docs into to open - I tried
that yesterday but still got an attempt to open a chart for a switer
doc.  There are on the right, if i remember correctly, shaded out menu
entries for swriter, scalc, sdraw or libreoffice equivlent - but i will
need to further investigate.

I just typed, to install libreoffice-gtk, one would expect for all
components of the suite to be installed - right;)

All the best.

On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 13:30:06 +0000
Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 12:54:49 +0000
> <dmthompson@gmx.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Just followed your advice, but have to say that libreoffice on
> > Debian is not what I was expecting;  slow start-up, opens .odt
> > documents with wrong application (chart when it should be a
> > word-processor), online help about this issue is no help, cannot
> > open word-processor directly have to go through an interface.
>
> Does your Main Menu > Office sub-menu not contain a LibreOffice Writer
> entry, along with LibreOffice Calc and others? The exact items here
> will depend on what was selected at installation.
> >
> > Not your fault.
> >
> > Have installed Abiword - instantly takes theme, no problem in
> > opening .odt docs - just have to find a way to have my adaptations
> > set as default.
> >
>
> Right-click an .odt file, Open With.. > Set Default Application..
>

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#275871

FromHans <hans.ullrich@loop.de>
Date2024-12-18 13:20 +0100
Message-ID<JV1bX-uwC-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#275870
I believe, the original poster meant, if he clicks on an *.odt file, then he 
expects libreoffice to be started.

This is a feature of the windowmanager he is using.

To help him, we should know, which windowmanager (KDE, Gnome, XFCE whatever) 
he is using, as each wm jhas its own settings.

Hans

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#275872

Fromdmthompson@gmx.com
Date2024-12-18 13:40 +0100
Message-ID<JV1vj-uHe-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#275870
Hi all,

Its what I am used to doing, and my thinking seems to go that way, but
you are right, at the end of the day.

I looged back into Debian this morning, after the email I sent following
this thread title/subject, and you are right, and i think the person
called Joe gave the hint, and i checked to see if swriter was installed
it was not so I installed it, and the was able to open a swriter doc in
the word-processor.

So basically, it looks like the problem is solved - apart from the slow
startup.

I generally use slackware, and have not encountered these problems.

All thanks for the help, its much appreciated.

cheers

On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 12:00:31PM +0000, Brad Rogers wrote:
>On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 11:29:34 +0000
><dmthompson@gmx.com> wrote:
>
>Hello dmthompson@gmx.com,
>
>>I just typed, to install libreoffice-gtk, one would expect for all
>>components of the suite to be installed - right;)
>
>No;  Why would you install (for example) libreoffice-qt if you don't use
>KDE/Plasma?
>
>A rhetorical question.
>
>--
> Regards  _       "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}"
>         / )      "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent"
>        / _)rad   "Is it only me that has a working delete key?"
>You're the psychotic daughter of a psychotic mother
>Pure Mania - The Vibrators

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#275875

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2024-12-18 14:40 +0100
Message-ID<JV2ro-vpY-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#275872
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 13:00:26 +0000
Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 12:34:42 +0000
> dmthompson@gmx.com wrote:
> 
> Hello dmthompson@gmx.com,
> 
> >called Joe gave the hint, and i checked to see if swriter was
> >installed it was not so I installed it, and the was able to open a
> >swriter doc in  
> 
> That makes it sound as though you may not have the package
> 'libreoffice' installed.  libreoffice is a metapackage that will
> install all the _required_ parts of LO.  There will still be optional
> parts that it may be desirable for you to also install, but that's up
> to you.
> 
> I don't know what you use for package management but trying installing
> the metapackage 'libreoffice'.  It can't hurt - if it's already
> installed your installer will tell you so.
> 

A standard Debian stable installation will not include Base or Impress,
but they can be added later, of course. It should certainly have
included Writer.

-- 
Joe 

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#275878

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2024-12-18 16:40 +0100
Message-ID<JV4jv-wRi-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#275875
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 13:51:09 +0000
Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 13:39:21 +0000
> Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Joe,
> 
> >A standard Debian stable installation will not include Base or
> >Impress,  
> 
> Really?  Because I see Depends: libreoffice-impress and
> libreoffice-base in testing.
> 

OK, times change. A recent installation of bookworm does have Impress,
my sid workstation doesn't, and I can't remember which stable this
originated from.

Both have libreoffice-base-core, shared libraries for Base, Calc and
writer but neither have Base itself, nor Report Builder. Understandable,
as last time I tried them they were both unusably buggy. RB completely
failed to run one day when I needed an invoice in a hurry, so I threw
together something with php-tcpdf and never went near RB again. I
suppose it might be OK now. It took Base a couple of years to get a
native MySQL driver, before which the unspeakable Linux odbc driver had
to be used, and sometimes worked.

-- 
Joe

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#275913

Fromdmthompson@gmx.com
Date2024-12-19 12:50 +0100
Message-ID<JVnct-S5b-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#275872
Hi,

What happened, to install openoffice using dpkg, libreoffice was
removed, along with various other packages, so when i came back to
reinstating libreoffice (as part of testing) openoffice was removed,
but I believe when I installed libreoffice-gtk3 not all the components
of libreoffice were pulled in - unlike the standard libreoffice install
- if this make sense to all.

Anyway the problem is removed - all is well.

Thanks everyone.

On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 01:00:26PM +0000, Brad Rogers wrote:
>On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 12:34:42 +0000
>dmthompson@gmx.com wrote:
>
>Hello dmthompson@gmx.com,
>
>>called Joe gave the hint, and i checked to see if swriter was installed
>>it was not so I installed it, and the was able to open a swriter doc in
>
>That makes it sound as though you may not have the package 'libreoffice'
>installed.  libreoffice is a metapackage that will install all the
>_required_ parts of LO.  There will still be optional parts that it may
>be desirable for you to also install, but that's up to you.
>
>I don't know what you use for package management but trying installing
>the metapackage 'libreoffice'.  It can't hurt - if it's already installed
>your installer will tell you so.
>
>--
> Regards  _       "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}"
>         / )      "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent"
>        / _)rad   "Is it only me that has a working delete key?"
>The deadbeats and the dispossessed, the seekers of unlikeliness
>Street Of Dreams - The Damned

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