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  Synaptic problem(s) Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> - 2024-11-28 15:00 +0100
    Re: Synaptic problem(s) "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2024-11-28 20:10 +0100
    Re: Synaptic problem(s) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-11-29 19:40 +0100
      Re: Synaptic problem(s) Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2024-11-29 20:40 +0100
      Re: Synaptic problem(s) Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> - 2024-11-30 12:20 +0100
        Re: Synaptic problem(s) Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2024-11-30 15:50 +0100
          Re: Synaptic problem(s) Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-11-30 16:10 +0100
            Re: Synaptic problem(s) Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2024-11-30 17:20 +0100
            Re: Synaptic problem(s) Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> - 2024-12-01 11:50 +0100
              Re: Synaptic problem(s) "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2024-12-01 13:20 +0100
                Re: Synaptic problem(s) Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> - 2024-12-02 14:10 +0100

#274957 — Synaptic problem(s)

Running Debian 12.7 with MATE
When launching Synaptic I get a message saying
   [ You have 1 broken package on your system!"
     Use the "Broken" filter to locate it.       ]
Synaptic's Help isn't helpful :{
It also reports packages to be updated.

Also started to install gnumeric and it wanted to remove some files I 
associate with printer drivers and also ghostscript.

To investigate I searched for it and Synaptic had a red filled box to 
the left of its name.

I did a power off/on restart. Still the same.

What should I do now?
I suspect using apt &/or cousins would be more informative.\
Never used them.

Help please.
[ learned >60 years ago - If you don't know what you're doin *DON'T*!!!]

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#274970

On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 07:55:37AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> Running Debian 12.7 with MATE
> When launching Synaptic I get a message saying
>   [ You have 1 broken package on your system!"
>     Use the "Broken" filter to locate it.       ]
> Synaptic's Help isn't helpful :{
> It also reports packages to be updated.
> 

Screenshot please Richard - if we can't see it, we can't diagnose it.

> Also started to install gnumeric and it wanted to remove some files I
> associate with printer drivers and also ghostscript.
> 

Details please.

> To investigate I searched for it and Synaptic had a red filled box to the
> left of its name.
> 

Synaptic is a front end to apt. Use command line apt to see what it
reports?

> I did a power off/on restart. Still the same.
> 

What did you expect this would have fixed: nothing had changed.

> What should I do now?
> I suspect using apt &/or cousins would be more informative.\
> Never used them.
> 

You might find that the details of exactly what's broken would be more
tractable, yes.
> Help please.
> [ learned >60 years ago - If you don't know what you're doin *DON'T*!!!]
> 

All best, as ever,

Andy
(amacater@debian.org)
> 

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#274991

On Thu 28 Nov 2024 at 07:55:37 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
> Running Debian 12.7 with MATE
> When launching Synaptic I get a message saying
>   [ You have 1 broken package on your system!"
>     Use the "Broken" filter to locate it.       ]
> Synaptic's Help isn't helpful :{
> It also reports packages to be updated.
> 
> Also started to install gnumeric and it wanted to remove some files I
> associate with printer drivers and also ghostscript.
> 
> To investigate I searched for it and Synaptic had a red filled box to
> the left of its name.
> 
> I did a power off/on restart. Still the same.
> 
> What should I do now?
> I suspect using apt &/or cousins would be more informative.\
> Never used them.
> 
> Help please.
> [ learned >60 years ago - If you don't know what you're doin *DON'T*!!!]

  $ dpkg -l | grep -v '^ii '

may give you an idea of which packages are broken.

Cheers,
David.

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#274992

On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 12:30:44 -0600
David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu 28 Nov 2024 at 07:55:37 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
> > Running Debian 12.7 with MATE
> > When launching Synaptic I get a message saying
> >   [ You have 1 broken package on your system!"
> >     Use the "Broken" filter to locate it.       ]
> > Synaptic's Help isn't helpful :{
> > It also reports packages to be updated.
> > 
> > Also started to install gnumeric and it wanted to remove some files
> > I associate with printer drivers and also ghostscript.
> > 
> > To investigate I searched for it and Synaptic had a red filled box
> > to the left of its name.
> > 
> > I did a power off/on restart. Still the same.
> > 
> > What should I do now?
> > I suspect using apt &/or cousins would be more informative.\
> > Never used them.
> > 
> > Help please.
> > [ learned >60 years ago - If you don't know what you're doin
> > *DON'T*!!!]  
> 
>   $ dpkg -l | grep -v '^ii '
> 
> may give you an idea of which packages are broken.
> 

As to what can be done... 'broken' usually means that one or more
dependencies of the package are unavailable, and cannot be found in the
selected repositories. This happens reasonably often in unstable, but it
shouldn't happen in a new installation of stable.

If I were to guess, I'd say it involved a package which used to be in
an older stable, but an upgrade to a new version of stable has occurred,
and the new version doesn't contain the package. The package will not be
removed, but it is now unsupported, and libraries it depends on may
have been upgraded to versions outside the dependency specification. I
have seen that happen, and it was a package I used to use occasionally
before the upgrade. Some years ago now.

We will have a better idea once some useful error messages have been
obtained, such as by trying to upgrade the package using apt. Actually,
Synaptic should be able to show the errors, by looking in the Details
box during an upgrade attempt. It should display about the same
messages as apt would.

-- 
Joe

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#275005

On 11/29/24 12:30 PM, David Wright wrote:
> On Thu 28 Nov 2024 at 07:55:37 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
>> Running Debian 12.7 with MATE
>> When launching Synaptic I get a message saying
>>    [ You have 1 broken package on your system!"
>>      Use the "Broken" filter to locate it.       ]
>> Synaptic's Help isn't helpful :{
>> It also reports packages to be updated.
>>
>> Also started to install gnumeric and it wanted to remove some files I
>> associate with printer drivers and also ghostscript.
>>
>> To investigate I searched for it and Synaptic had a red filled box to
>> the left of its name.
>>
>> I did a power off/on restart. Still the same.
>>
>> What should I do now?
>> I suspect using apt &/or cousins would be more informative.\
>> Never used them.
>>
>> Help please.
>> [ learned >60 years ago - If you don't know what you're doin *DON'T*!!!]
> 
>    $ dpkg -l | grep -v '^ii '
> 
> may give you an idea of which packages are broken.
> 
> Cheers,
> David.
> 
> 

Its cryptic output referred to "ghostscript" for which Synaptic 
displayed a red check-box. I tried to remove it and then reinstall with 
synaptic which repeatedly  complained when I tried to exit asking if it 
should discard marked changes. I choose Apply from menu. It responds:

> W: Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/g/ghostscript/libgs10_10.0.0%7edfsg-11%2bdeb12u5_amd64.deb
>   404  Not Found [IP: 151.101.70.132 80]
> 
> 
> W: Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/g/ghostscript/libgs10-common_10.0.0%7edfsg-11%2bdeb12u5_all.deb
>   404  Not Found [IP: 151.101.70.132 80]
> 
> 

I then force exit and switch to terminal mode and do following:

> richard@debian12:~$ su
> Password: 
> root@debian12:/home/richard#  dpkg -l | grep -v '^ii '
> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
> | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
> ||/ Name                                          Version                             Architecture Description
> +++-=============================================-===================================-============-================================================================================
> iU  ghostscript                                   10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u5              amd64        interpreter for the PostScript language and for PDF
> root@debian12:/home/richard# 

followed by

> oot@debian12:/home/richard# dpkg -l '*ghostscript*'| grep -v '^ii '
> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
> | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
> ||/ Name             Version                Architecture Description
> +++-================-======================-============-===================================================
> iU  ghostscript      10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u5 amd64        interpreter for the PostScript language and for PDF
> un  ghostscript-cups <none>                 <none>       (no description available)
> root@debian12:/home/richard# 
> 

Thank you.
Now what? ?? ??? <groaning grin> ;/

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#275020

On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 05:18:35 -0600
Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> wrote:

> On 11/29/24 12:30 PM, David Wright wrote:
> > On Thu 28 Nov 2024 at 07:55:37 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:  
> >> Running Debian 12.7 with MATE
> >> When launching Synaptic I get a message saying
> >>    [ You have 1 broken package on your system!"
> >>      Use the "Broken" filter to locate it.       ]
> >> Synaptic's Help isn't helpful :{
> >> It also reports packages to be updated.
> >>
> >> Also started to install gnumeric and it wanted to remove some
> >> files I associate with printer drivers and also ghostscript.
> >>
> >> To investigate I searched for it and Synaptic had a red filled box
> >> to the left of its name.
> >>
> >> I did a power off/on restart. Still the same.
> >>
> >> What should I do now?
> >> I suspect using apt &/or cousins would be more informative.\
> >> Never used them.
> >>
> >> Help please.
> >> [ learned >60 years ago - If you don't know what you're doin
> >> *DON'T*!!!]  
> > 
> >    $ dpkg -l | grep -v '^ii '
> > 
> > may give you an idea of which packages are broken.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > David.
> > 
> >   
> 
> Its cryptic output referred to "ghostscript" for which Synaptic 
> displayed a red check-box. I tried to remove it and then reinstall
> with synaptic which repeatedly  complained when I tried to exit
> asking if it should discard marked changes. I choose Apply from menu.
> It responds:
> 
> > W: Failed to
> > fetch http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/g/ghostscript/libgs10_10.0.0%7edfsg-11%2bdeb12u5_amd64.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 151.101.70.132 80]
> > 
> > 
> > W: Failed to
> > fetch http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/g/ghostscript/libgs10-common_10.0.0%7edfsg-11%2bdeb12u5_all.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 151.101.70.132 80]
> > 

I don't know if it helps, but the current ghostscript on my Deb 12 is
version 12u6, not 12u5. 

What happens when you try:

 apt upgrade ghostscript

from a terminal? (as root/sudo, close Synaptic first, apt uses the same
database)

-- 
Joe

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#275022

On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 14:45:01 +0000, Joe wrote:
> I don't know if it helps, but the current ghostscript on my Deb 12 is
> version 12u6, not 12u5. 
> 
> What happens when you try:
> 
>  apt upgrade ghostscript

"apt upgrade" does not take a package name as an argument.  It tries
to upgrade *all* of the packages you have.

To upgrade a single package, use "install" instead.

    apt update
    apt install ghostscript

However, in Richard's case, the package is in state iU (Unpacked),
which indicates that something failed during the installation,
around the Unpacking step.

The first thing I would've checked is "df".  Make sure there are no
file systems running out of space.

If the file systems were fine, then I would've done

    dpkg --configure -a

to retry whatever failed during or after the Unpacking step.  If
that fails, then you should see a message telling you why.  Reporting
that message would be an important detail when bringing the issue to
the mailing list.

If that command does nothing at all (because the package isn't ready
for configuration), then I might try removing it, or I might try
"apt update; apt install ghostscript" depending on which one I feel is
more likely to work at that moment.

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#275025

On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 10:00:03 -0500
Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 14:45:01 +0000, Joe wrote:
> > I don't know if it helps, but the current ghostscript on my Deb 12
> > is version 12u6, not 12u5. 
> > 
> > What happens when you try:
> > 
> >  apt upgrade ghostscript  
> 
> "apt upgrade" does not take a package name as an argument.  It tries
> to upgrade *all* of the packages you have.
> 
> To upgrade a single package, use "install" instead.
> 
>     apt update
>     apt install ghostscript

Sorry, I have done a couple of single upgrades, but long in the past,
probably before apt was a separate command.

-- 
Joe

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#275085

On 11/30/24 9:00 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 14:45:01 +0000, Joe wrote:
>> I don't know if it helps, but the current ghostscript on my Deb 12 is
>> version 12u6, not 12u5.
>>
>> What happens when you try:
>>
>>   apt upgrade ghostscript
> 
> "apt upgrade" does not take a package name as an argument.  It tries
> to upgrade *all* of the packages you have.
> 
> To upgrade a single package, use "install" instead.
> 
>      apt update
>      apt install ghostscript
> 
> However, in Richard's case, the package is in state iU (Unpacked),
> which indicates that something failed during the installation,
> around the Unpacking step.
> 
> The first thing I would've checked is "df".  Make sure there are no
> file systems running out of space.
> 
> If the file systems were fine, then I would've done
> 
>      dpkg --configure -a
> 
> to retry whatever failed during or after the Unpacking step.  If
> that fails, then you should see a message telling you why.  Reporting
> that message would be an important detail when bringing the issue to
> the mailing list.
> 
> If that command does nothing at all (because the package isn't ready
> for configuration), then I might try removing it, or I might try
> "apt update; apt install ghostscript" depending on which one I feel is
> more likely to work at that moment.
> 
> 

In terminal mode as root I did "apt update" which concluded:=
> Fetched 62.1 MB in 30s (2,070 kB/s)                                            
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree... Done
> Reading state information... Done
> 77 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
> N: Repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease' changed its 'Version' value from '12.7' to '12.8'

also
> root@debian12:/home/richard# df
> Filesystem     1K-blocks     Used Available Use% Mounted on
> udev             1899716        0   1899716   0% /dev
> tmpfs             386696     1540    385156   1% /run
> /dev/sda9       23315280 14930176   7175404  68% /
> tmpfs            1933464      488   1932976   1% /dev/shm
> tmpfs               5120        8      5112   1% /run/lock
> /dev/sda6       14348168       24  13597456   1% /Bible
> /dev/sda8       65873764 53583092   8918864  86% /Deb9Home
> tmpfs             386692       72    386620   1% /run/user/1000

Then

> root@debian12:/home/richard# apt --fix-broken install
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree... Done
> Reading state information... Done
> Correcting dependencies... Done
> The following additional packages will be installed:
>   ghostscript libgs10 libgs10-common
> The following packages will be upgraded:
>   ghostscript libgs10 libgs10-common
> 3 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 74 not upgraded.
> 1 not fully installed or removed.
> Need to get 3,111 kB of archives.
> After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
> Get:1 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security/main amd64 ghostscript amd64 10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u6 [57.5 kB]
> Get:2 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security/main amd64 libgs10 amd64 10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u6 [2,467 kB]
> Get:3 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security/main amd64 libgs10-common all 10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u6 [587 kB]
> Fetched 3,111 kB in 1s (2,268 kB/s)     
> Reading changelogs... Done
> (Reading database ... 180583 files and directories currently installed.)
> Preparing to unpack .../ghostscript_10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u6_amd64.deb ...
> Unpacking ghostscript (10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u6) over (10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u5) ...
> Preparing to unpack .../libgs10_10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u6_amd64.deb ...
> Unpacking libgs10:amd64 (10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u6) over (10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u4) ...
> Preparing to unpack .../libgs10-common_10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u6_all.deb ...
> Unpacking libgs10-common (10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u6) over (10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u4) ...
> Setting up libgs10-common (10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u6) ...
> Setting up libgs10:amd64 (10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u6) ...
> Setting up ghostscript (10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u6) ...
> Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.36-9+deb12u8) ...
> Processing triggers for man-db (2.11.2-2) ...
> root@debian12:/home/richard# 

All seems well so far. "dpkg -l | grep -v '^ii ' " reported no problems.
Closed terminal and launched Synaptic. No errors *OR* warnings :}

Thanks to all.
What should I do next ( /etc/debian_version reports 12.7)?

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#275091

On Sun, Dec 01, 2024 at 04:43:00AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 11/30/24 9:00 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > 
> > "apt upgrade" does not take a package name as an argument.  It tries
> > to upgrade *all* of the packages you have.
> > 
> > To upgrade a single package, use "install" instead.
> > 
> >      apt update
> >      apt install ghostscript
> > 
> > 
> > If the file systems were fine, then I would've done
> > 
> >      dpkg --configure -a
> > 

Greg's advice is absolutely correct. Occasionally a package will fail
to unpack and the command above will essentially fix this.

> > to retry whatever failed during or after the Unpacking step.  If
> > that fails, then you should see a message telling you why.  Reporting
> > that message would be an important detail when bringing the issue to
> > the mailing list.
> > 
> 
> In terminal mode as root I did "apt update" which concluded:=
> > Fetched 62.1 MB in 30s (2,070 kB/s)
> > Reading package lists... Done
> > Building dependency tree... Done
> > Reading state information... Done
> > 77 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
> > N: Repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease' changed its 'Version' value from '12.7' to '12.8'
> 

At that point, I might have stopped. Potentially you don't update often
and you've missed the point release upgrade to 12.8 in the last month or
so. That might also explain why files were missing, so:

apt update ; apt full-upgrade

or (my preference but others methods are also valid)

apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade

> Then
> 
> > root@debian12:/home/richard# apt --fix-broken install

<snippage>
> > Processing triggers for man-db (2.11.2-2) ...
> > root@debian12:/home/richard#
> 
> All seems well so far. "dpkg -l | grep -v '^ii ' " reported no problems.

Right, the upgrade you did seems to have worked fine.

> Closed terminal and launched Synaptic. No errors *OR* warnings :}
> 
> Thanks to all.
> What should I do next ( /etc/debian_version reports 12.7)?

apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade to make sure you're up to date
then reboot. At that point, /etc/debian-version should read 12.8
and uname -a should give you 6.0-28-amd64 as your kernel version 

All the very best, as ever,

Andy Cater 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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#275131

On 12/1/24 6:12 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 01, 2024 at 04:43:00AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> [SNIP]
>> What should I do next ( /etc/debian_version reports 12.7)?
> 
> apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade to make sure you're up to date
> then reboot. At that point, /etc/debian-version should read 12.8

It does.

> and uname -a should give you 6.0-28-amd64 as your kernel version

I see:
> richard@debian12:~$ uname -a 
> Linux debian12 6.1.0-28-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.119-1 (2024-11-22) x86_64 GNU/Linux
> richard@debian12:~$ 


> 
> All the very best, as ever,
> 
> Andy Cater
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
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