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needrestart no longer depends on libmodule-scandeps-perl?

Started byMike Kupfer <kupfer@rawbw.com>
First post2024-11-19 19:40 +0100
Last post2024-11-21 23:40 +0100
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  needrestart no longer depends on libmodule-scandeps-perl? Mike Kupfer <kupfer@rawbw.com> - 2024-11-19 19:40 +0100
    Re: needrestart no longer depends on libmodule-scandeps-perl? Christian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de> - 2024-11-19 19:50 +0100
      Re: needrestart no longer depends on libmodule-scandeps-perl? Mike Kupfer <kupfer@rawbw.com> - 2024-11-19 20:50 +0100
        Re: needrestart no longer depends on libmodule-scandeps-perl? Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> - 2024-11-19 21:30 +0100
          Re: needrestart no longer depends on libmodule-scandeps-perl? Mike Kupfer <kupfer@rawbw.com> - 2024-11-20 04:40 +0100
        apt-get changelog [was: needrestart no longer depends on  libmodule-scandeps-perl?] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-11-20 06:30 +0100
          Re: apt-get changelog [was: needrestart no longer depends on  libmodule-scandeps-perl?] Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2024-11-20 14:40 +0100
            Re: apt-get changelog [was: needrestart no longer depends on  libmodule-scandeps-perl?] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-11-20 14:50 +0100
            Re: apt-get changelog [was: needrestart no longer depends on libmodule-scandeps-perl?] Mike Kupfer <kupfer@rawbw.com> - 2024-11-20 17:30 +0100
    Re: needrestart no longer depends on libmodule-scandeps-perl? Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2024-11-21 23:40 +0100

#274667 — needrestart no longer depends on libmodule-scandeps-perl?

FromMike Kupfer <kupfer@rawbw.com>
Date2024-11-19 19:40 +0100
Subjectneedrestart no longer depends on libmodule-scandeps-perl?
Message-ID<JKBiN-a3Cw-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
I noticed that after updating 'needrestart' to 3.6-4+deb12u2, the
'libmodule-scandeps-perl' package now shows up in the autoremove list.
(In a VM that still has the 3.6-4+deb12u1 'needrestart', trying to
remove 'libmodule-scandeps-perl' will also remove 'needrestart'.)

Can someone confirm that this is expected behavior?

thanks,
mike

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#274668

FromChristian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de>
Date2024-11-19 19:50 +0100
Message-ID<JKBst-a3H2-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#274667

Am 19.11.24 um 19:16 schrieb Mike Kupfer:
> I noticed that after updating 'needrestart' to 3.6-4+deb12u2, the
> 'libmodule-scandeps-perl' package now shows up in the autoremove list.
> (In a VM that still has the 3.6-4+deb12u1 'needrestart', trying to
> remove 'libmodule-scandeps-perl' will also remove 'needrestart'.)
> 
> Can someone confirm that this is expected behavior?


Yes. See the changelog:
* debian/control: Drop Depends on libmodule-scandeps-perl

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#274669

FromMike Kupfer <kupfer@rawbw.com>
Date2024-11-19 20:50 +0100
Message-ID<JKCox-a4lE-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#274668
Christian Britz wrote:

> See the changelog:
> * debian/control: Drop Depends on libmodule-scandeps-perl

Thanks.  I had tried looking at the changelog, but Synaptic and apt were
unable to find it.

Okay.  After some poking around, I now see a couple ways to get at the
changelog.  One is the copy in
/usr/share/doc/<pkgname>/changelog.Debian.gz.  The other is via the
news item for the update, in tracker.debian.org.

thanks,
mike

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#274670

FromErwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org>
Date2024-11-19 21:30 +0100
Message-ID<JKD1f-a4UO-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#274669
Le 19/11/2024 à 20:39, Mike Kupfer a écrit :
> Christian Britz wrote:
>
>> See the changelog:
>> * debian/control: Drop Depends on libmodule-scandeps-perl
> Thanks.  I had tried looking at the changelog, but Synaptic and apt were
> unable to find it.
>
> Okay.  After some poking around, I now see a couple ways to get at the
> changelog.  One is the copy in
> /usr/share/doc/<pkgname>/changelog.Debian.gz.  The other is via the
> news item for the update, in tracker.debian.org.
>
> thanks,
> mike
>
>
However the depency is back for 3.7-3 in testing

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#274676

FromMike Kupfer <kupfer@rawbw.com>
Date2024-11-20 04:40 +0100
Message-ID<JKJJn-a9Qp-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#274670
Erwan David wrote:

> However the depency is back for 3.7-3 in testing

The dependency was removed for 3.7-3.1, which is in unstable at the
moment.

mike

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#274683 — apt-get changelog [was: needrestart no longer depends on libmodule-scandeps-perl?]

From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2024-11-20 06:30 +0100
Subjectapt-get changelog [was: needrestart no longer depends on libmodule-scandeps-perl?]
Message-ID<JKLrP-ab0q-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#274669

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On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 11:39:53AM -0800, Mike Kupfer wrote:
> Christian Britz wrote:
> 
> > See the changelog:
> > * debian/control: Drop Depends on libmodule-scandeps-perl
> 
> Thanks.  I had tried looking at the changelog, but Synaptic and apt were
> unable to find it.

Hm. "apt-get changelog needrestart" works for me? Since apt delegates
to apt-get, it should do the same... in fact, it works, too.

What's missing?

Cheers
-- 
t

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#274694 — Re: apt-get changelog [was: needrestart no longer depends on libmodule-scandeps-perl?]

FromCharles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com>
Date2024-11-20 14:40 +0100
SubjectRe: apt-get changelog [was: needrestart no longer depends on libmodule-scandeps-perl?]
Message-ID<JKT61-afMw-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#274683
On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 06:22:50 +0100
<tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote:

> Hm. "apt-get changelog needrestart" works for me? Since apt delegates
> to apt-get, it should do the same... in fact, it works, too.
> 
> What's missing?

Possibly trixie v. bookworm.

Bookworm:

charles@issola:~$ apt-get changelog needrestart
Err:1 https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org needrestart 3.6-4+deb12u2 Changelog
  Changelog unavailable for needrestart=3.6-4+deb12u2 (404  Not Found [IP: 151.101.70.132 443])
E: Failed to fetch https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/main/n/needrestart/needrestart_3.6-4%2bdeb12u2_changelog  Changelog unavailable for needrestart=3.6-4+deb12u2 (404  Not Found [IP: 151.101.70.132 443])
charles@issola:~$ 


Trixie:

root@testing:~# apt-get changelog needrestart
Get:1 https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org needrestart 3.7-3 Changelog [31.9 kB]
Fetched 31.9 kB in 1s (29.0 kB/s)  
root@testing:~# 


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#274696 — Re: apt-get changelog [was: needrestart no longer depends on libmodule-scandeps-perl?]

From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2024-11-20 14:50 +0100
SubjectRe: apt-get changelog [was: needrestart no longer depends on libmodule-scandeps-perl?]
Message-ID<JKTfH-afPW-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#274694

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On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 06:36:08AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 06:22:50 +0100
> <tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote:
> 
> > Hm. "apt-get changelog needrestart" works for me? Since apt delegates
> > to apt-get, it should do the same... in fact, it works, too.
> > 
> > What's missing?
> 
> Possibly trixie v. bookworm.

Aaah. Makes sense now. Thanks for the enlightenment & sorry
for the noise.

Cheers
-- 
t

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#274702 — Re: apt-get changelog [was: needrestart no longer depends on libmodule-scandeps-perl?]

FromMike Kupfer <kupfer@rawbw.com>
Date2024-11-20 17:30 +0100
SubjectRe: apt-get changelog [was: needrestart no longer depends on libmodule-scandeps-perl?]
Message-ID<JKVKx-ahwz-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#274694
Charles Curley wrote:

> On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 06:22:50 +0100
> <tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote:
> 
> > Hm. "apt-get changelog needrestart" works for me? Since apt delegates
> > to apt-get, it should do the same... in fact, it works, too.
> > 
> > What's missing?
> 
> Possibly trixie v. bookworm.

Specifically, I think it has to do with the way security updates are
handled, and where apt-get looks for changelogs.  With my bookworm VM,
when I run the snapshot that still has 3.6-4+deb12u1 installed, "apt
changelog needrestart" works fine:

  deb12$ apt changelog needrestart
  Get:1 https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org needrestart 3.6-4+deb12u1 Changelog [29.3 kB]
  Fetched 29.3 kB in 1s (31.8 kB/s)    

But with the most recent snapshot, which has 3.6-4+deb12u2, I get

  deb12$ apt changelog needrestart
  Err:1 https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org needrestart 3.6-4+deb12u2 Changelog
    Changelog unavailable for needrestart=3.6-4+deb12u2 (404  Not Found [IP: 151.101.198.132 443])
  E: Failed to fetch https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/main/n/needrestart/needrestart_3.6-4%2bdeb12u2_changelog  Changelog unavailable for needrestart=3.6-4+deb12u2 (404  Not Found [IP: 151.101.198.132 443])

Looking in
https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/main/n/needrestart/, I
see that there is indeed a changelog file for 3.6-4+deb12u1, but not
3.6-4+deb12u2.  Maybe "apt changelog needrestart" will work after the
next point release of bookworm?

mike

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#274769

FromJeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com>
Date2024-11-21 23:40 +0100
Message-ID<JLo09-azl2-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#274667
On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 1:39 PM Mike Kupfer <kupfer@rawbw.com> wrote:
>
> I noticed that after updating 'needrestart' to 3.6-4+deb12u2, the
> 'libmodule-scandeps-perl' package now shows up in the autoremove list.
> (In a VM that still has the 3.6-4+deb12u1 'needrestart', trying to
> remove 'libmodule-scandeps-perl' will also remove 'needrestart'.)
>
> Can someone confirm that this is expected behavior?

Related, needrestart just made the Full Disclosure mailing list today:
Local Privilege Escalations in needrestart,
<https://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2024/Nov/15>.

Jeff

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