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  need .md reader that can print ONLY tha page being viewed gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-10-27 19:10 +0100
    Re: need .md reader that can print ONLY tha page being viewed jeremy ardley <jeremy.ardley@gmail.com> - 2024-10-27 19:30 +0100
      Re: need .md reader that can print ONLY tha page being viewed <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-10-27 20:10 +0100
      Re: need .md reader that can print ONLY tha page being viewed gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-10-28 08:10 +0100
        Clarity in information, please :) [WAS Re: need .md reader that can  print ONLY tha page being viewed] "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2024-10-28 08:30 +0100
          Re: Clarity in information, please :) [WAS Re: need .md reader that  canprint ONLY tha page being viewed] gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-10-28 13:20 +0100
    Re: need .md reader that can print ONLY tha page being viewed David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-10-27 19:30 +0100
      Re: need .md reader that can print ONLY tha page being viewed gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-10-28 08:10 +0100
    Re: need .md reader that can print ONLY tha page being viewed Mike Castle <dalgoda+debian@gmail.com> - 2024-10-27 20:20 +0100
    Re: need .md reader that can print ONLY tha page being viewed Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-10-27 20:30 +0100
      Re: need .md reader that can print ONLY tha page being viewed David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-10-28 04:50 +0100
        Re: need .md reader that can print ONLY tha page being viewed David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-10-29 04:50 +0100
          Re: need .md reader that can print ONLY tha page being viewed Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-10-29 17:40 +0100
    Re: need .md reader that can print ONLY tha page being viewed Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2024-10-28 05:20 +0100
    Re: need .md reader that can print ONLY tha page being viewed Ryan Nowakowski <tubaman@fattuba.com> - 2024-11-20 01:40 +0100
      Re: need .md reader that can print ONLY tha page being viewed Roland Mueller <roland.em0001@googlemail.com> - 2024-11-26 21:00 +0100
        Re: need .md reader that can print ONLY tha page being viewed gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-11-26 21:20 +0100

#274097 — need .md reader that can print ONLY tha page being viewed

Seems to me we should not have to print a 90 page document to get the 
one page/paragraph of interest. What do folks use now?

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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#274100

On 28/10/24 02:07, gene heskett wrote:
> Seems to me we should not have to print a 90 page document to get the 
> one page/paragraph of interest. What do folks use now?
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.


Quite often in a web browser you can select the text and right click and 
print selection.

If you are in a gui console you can select some text and copy and paste 
into a gui text editor and print that.

If you are only in a console with no gui you will have problems

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#274104

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On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 02:27:34AM +0800, jeremy ardley wrote:
> 
> 
> On 28/10/24 02:07, gene heskett wrote:
> > Seems to me we should not have to print a 90 page document to get the
> > one page/paragraph of interest. What do folks use now?
> > 
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
> 
> 
> Quite often in a web browser you can select the text and right click and
> print selection.
> 
> If you are in a gui console you can select some text and copy and paste into
> a gui text editor and print that.
> 
> If you are only in a console with no gui you will have problems

Or you will have pdfseparate (1).

It's not all barbarian country in the console :-)

Cheers
-- 
t

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#274114

On 10/27/24 14:28, jeremy ardley wrote:
> 
> 
> On 28/10/24 02:07, gene heskett wrote:
>> Seems to me we should not have to print a 90 page document to get the 
>> one page/paragraph of interest. What do folks use now?
>>
>> Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
> 
> 
> Quite often in a web browser you can select the text and right click and 
> print selection.
> 
> If you are in a gui console you can select some text and copy and paste 
> into a gui text editor and print that.
> 
> If you are only in a console with no gui you will have problems
> 
> .
I've got a gui on both ends of the net but cups on armbian can't see the 
printers shared by debian/bookworm. So we fix that first. If we can...

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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#274116 — Clarity in information, please :) [WAS Re: need .md reader that can print ONLY tha page being viewed]

On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 03:05:32AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> > .
> I've got a gui on both ends of the net but cups on armbian can't see the
> printers shared by debian/bookworm. So we fix that first. If we can...
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
> -- 
>

Hi Gene,

Armbian is off-topic here (as often stated) - maybe raise this with the
Armbian folks?

As ever, it is *REALLY* hard to debug the problems you raise because we
don't have enough information.

You don't make it clear which boards you have that only run Armbian.

All the best, as ever,

Andy
(amacater@debian.org) 

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#274122 — Re: Clarity in information, please :) [WAS Re: need .md reader that canprint ONLY tha page being viewed]

On 10/28/24 03:24, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 03:05:32AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
>>> .
>> I've got a gui on both ends of the net but cups on armbian can't see the
>> printers shared by debian/bookworm. So we fix that first. If we can...
>>
>> Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
>> -- 
>>
> 
> Hi Gene,
> 
> Armbian is off-topic here (as often stated) - maybe raise this with the
> Armbian folks?
> 
> As ever, it is *REALLY* hard to debug the problems you raise because we
> don't have enough information.
> 
> You don't make it clear which boards you have that only run Armbian.
> 
> All the best, as ever,
> 
> Andy
> (amacater@debian.org)
> 
You can assume that when I mention armbian its running on a 4g 
bananapi-m5, its the best arm64 out there by a long row of apple trees. 
A full, current ubuntu desktop release corresponding to trixie w/xfce4 
today. I hate to say it, but in arm64, debian is simply not it the game 
unless I'm getting my downloads from a duff mirror. debian simply, 
obviously, doesn't care about the arms. There are arm64 users by the 
millions out here in the 3d printer world. Even the simple question of 
where to get the latest download that /might/ run on arm stuff and Just 
Work, goes ignored.

I've attempted to bring debian-arm problems to that list, only to be 
repeatedly told that list is for developers only and my requests for 
help making something work have been routed to /dev/null. I've even 
offered to setup a monthly stipend to help debian meet expenses but the 
only path you offer is paypal, and they owe me money I'll never collect, 
so I do no business with paypal. That is YOUR problem. I get along just 
fine w/o them.
> .

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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#274101

On Sun 27 Oct 2024 at 14:07:25 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
> Seems to me we should not have to print a 90 page document to get the
> one page/paragraph of interest. What do folks use now?

pdftk, now pdftk-java

Cheers,
David.

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#274115

On 10/27/24 14:28, David Wright wrote:
> On Sun 27 Oct 2024 at 14:07:25 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
>> Seems to me we should not have to print a 90 page document to get the
>> one page/paragraph of interest. What do folks use now?
> 
> pdftk, now pdftk-java
installed it, but the assumption that its a pdf is wrong, its an .md 
file. Does not appear to have page makers, but I can get line numbers 
from geany, but its an arm64 and cups can't print to my shared printers 
so that has to be fixed first. The rest can be had from the correct 
incantations of "tail fnnn file | head fnn >newfile.
So first, how do I fix cups?
> 
> Cheers,
> David.
> 
> .

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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#274105

A feature of markdown (.md) is that it is plain text.

Bring it up in your favorite text editor, save just the bits you need,
print with plain old lp(1).

No "reader" necessary.

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#274106

> Seems to me we should not have to print a 90 page document to get the one
> page/paragraph of interest.

I agree, but I wonder why you think it needs to be stated.
What tool are you using and what part of it makes you think it really
wants you to print all 90 pages of a document?

FWIW, nowadays I basically never print to paper from anything else than
my favorite PDF viewer (which does offer me to print any selected
subset of the pages).  For everything else, I "print to PDF" (and then
use my PDF viewer to print to paper the parts I need, if that's
what I want).


        Stefan

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#274111

On Sun 27 Oct 2024 at 15:24:52 (-0400), Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > Seems to me we should not have to print a 90 page document to get the one
> > page/paragraph of interest.
> 
> I agree, but I wonder why you think it needs to be stated.
> What tool are you using and what part of it makes you think it really
> wants you to print all 90 pages of a document?
> 
> FWIW, nowadays I basically never print to paper from anything else than
> my favorite PDF viewer (which does offer me to print any selected
> subset of the pages).  For everything else, I "print to PDF" (and then
> use my PDF viewer to print to paper the parts I need, if that's
> what I want).

What I would miss if I had only that for PDFs:

. a record of how I made the printout,

. a carbon copy of the document to file (if I do print,
  it's generally to send it somewhere),

. the ability to do this manually or with scripts,

. handling encryption,

. most importantly, the ability to assemble a document
  from multiple parts of various sources.

Cheers,
David.

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#274135

On Sun 27 Oct 2024 at 22:44:58 (-0500), David Wright wrote:
> On Sun 27 Oct 2024 at 15:24:52 (-0400), Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > > Seems to me we should not have to print a 90 page document to get the one
> > > page/paragraph of interest.
> > 
> > I agree, but I wonder why you think it needs to be stated.
> > What tool are you using and what part of it makes you think it really
> > wants you to print all 90 pages of a document?
> > 
> > FWIW, nowadays I basically never print to paper from anything else than
> > my favorite PDF viewer (which does offer me to print any selected
> > subset of the pages).  For everything else, I "print to PDF" (and then
> > use my PDF viewer to print to paper the parts I need, if that's
> > what I want).
> 
> What I would miss if I had only that for PDFs:
> 
> . a record of how I made the printout,
> 
> . a carbon copy of the document to file (if I do print,
>   it's generally to send it somewhere),
> 
> . the ability to do this manually or with scripts,
> 
> . handling encryption,
> 
> . most importantly, the ability to assemble a document
>   from multiple parts of various sources.

Thanks to Stefan for pointing out a lack of context
in my post. It's meant to relate to my earlier post
suggesting pdftk, and points out that selection of
pages is the least that pdftk can do. The list above
is just the functions I use regularly.

So, for example, at tax time each year, I run a number of
scripts that automatically collate the appropriate pages
from the mountain of monthly/quarterly documents received
or downloaded over the year.

Of course, much of this thread is moot if Gene is concerned
only with printing parts of a text file, rather than sections
of the processed marked-up document.

Cheers,
David.

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#274151

On 29/10/2024 10:42, David Wright wrote:
> Of course, much of this thread is moot if Gene is concerned
> only with printing parts of a text file, rather than sections
> of the processed marked-up document.

I think, reading a rendered page from a document is more pleasant than 
raw markup, so selection of pages is relevant. At least it might be a 
last resort since normally page selection should be available from 
printing dialog or using CLI options.

The next question is what kind of markdown is used. Long document almost 
certainly relies on various extensions.

However it does not matter if actual trouble may be with wonderful 
closed source Brother drivers and armbian tuned by a sledgehammer.

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#274112

Hi Gene,

On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 02:07:25PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> Seems to me we should not have to print a 90 page document to get the one
> page/paragraph of interest. What do folks use now?

What procedure / software do you use right now to solve this problem for
really big plain text (.txt) files? Will that also work for such
Markdown (.md) files?

Thanks,
Andy

-- 
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#274672

On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 02:07:25PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> Seems to me we should not have to print a 90 page document to get the one
> page/paragraph of interest. What do folks use now?

Hey Gene, I'm assuming that your .md file is in markdown format. If so,
you have a few choices.  There's nothing about markdown that forces
formatting by page.  So for example, you could render markdown as HTML
using pandoc, then use something like xmlstarlet to select just the
parts of the HTML you want.  Then, you can load that in your browser and
print.

If you really want to format markdown in pages, you can use pandoc to
render markdown as PDF, then use a PDF reader to print the pages you want.

Hope this helps,

Ryan

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#274913

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ke 20.11.2024 klo 3.12 Ryan Nowakowski (tubaman@fattuba.com) kirjoitti:

> On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 02:07:25PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> > Seems to me we should not have to print a 90 page document to get the one
> > page/paragraph of interest. What do folks use now?
>
> Hey Gene, I'm assuming that your .md file is in markdown format. If so,
> you have a few choices.  There's nothing about markdown that forces
> formatting by page.  So for example, you could render markdown as HTML
> using pandoc, then use something like xmlstarlet to select just the
> parts of the HTML you want.  Then, you can load that in your browser and
> print.
>
> If you really want to format markdown in pages, you can use pandoc to
> render markdown as PDF, then use a PDF reader to print the pages you want.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Ryan
>
>
okular can also display documents in markdown format and some other formats
in addition to PDF.

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#274914

On 11/26/24 14:52, Roland Mueller wrote:
> 
> 
> ke 20.11.2024 klo 3.12 Ryan Nowakowski (tubaman@fattuba.com 
> <mailto:tubaman@fattuba.com>) kirjoitti:
> 
>     On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 02:07:25PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
>      > Seems to me we should not have to print a 90 page document to get
>     the one
>      > page/paragraph of interest. What do folks use now?
> 
>     Hey Gene, I'm assuming that your .md file is in markdown format. If so,
>     you have a few choices.  There's nothing about markdown that forces
>     formatting by page.  So for example, you could render markdown as HTML
>     using pandoc, then use something like xmlstarlet to select just the
>     parts of the HTML you want.  Then, you can load that in your browser and
>     print.
> 
>     If you really want to format markdown in pages, you can use pandoc to
>     render markdown as PDF, then use a PDF reader to print the pages you
>     want.
> 
>     Hope this helps,
> 
>     Ryan
> 
Yes it will help, a lot. I had never heard of pandoc before. Thank you.
> 
> okular can also display documents in markdown format and some other 
> formats in addition to PDF.

That I have, again useful info.  Thank you.

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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